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00:29 schestowitz; https://www.fosslife.org/cutest-distro-linux-sea-thats-right-cutefish

↺ https://www.fosslife.org/cutest-distro-linux-sea-thats-right-cutefish

00:29 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fosslife.org | Cutest Distro in the Linux Sea? Thats Right: Cutefish

00:29 schestowitz; "

00:29 schestowitz; Even as a beta release, CutefishOS brings an incredible elegance into the Linux desktop mix, says Jack Wallen.

00:29 schestowitz; The Debian-based distro, which came into being within the past couple years, uses Qt Quick and will likely remind users of macOS with its polished appearance.

00:30 schestowitz; "

00:56 MinceR; ew


1 AM, April 13

01:34 psydruid; very polished

01:34 psydruid; very turd

01:34 psydruid; very polished turd

01:49 schestowitz; pasted, redacted a bit:

01:49 schestowitz; [02:07] <schestowitz> ping sorry to be a bother

01:49 schestowitz; [02:07] <schestowitz> the tuxmachjines DB entered a bad state

01:49 schestowitz; [02:07] <schestowitz> I have backups

01:49 schestowitz; [02:08] <schestowitz> but it might be an opportunity to move it to a new OS

01:49 schestowitz; [02:09] <schestowitz> a lot of it we can do on our own, I think, and we'll pay for your time

01:49 schestowitz; [14:23] <xxxxxxx> i don't have time to do it this week

01:49 schestowitz; [14:23] <xxxxxxx> but

01:49 schestowitz; [14:23] <xxxxxxx> maybe soon

01:49 schestowitz; [14:23] <xxxxxxx> idk

01:49 schestowitz; [15:03] <schestowitz> thanks, totally understadable

01:49 schestowitz; [15:04] <schestowitz> we've begun setting up a devuan machine to test the sites on, so maybe that can be a drop-in for the server, like when tessier got it imported. Meanwhile we solved the DB issue at TuxMachines, by taking an older backups and then manually adding the missing bits (about 80 drupal nodes plus commnets)


2 AM, April 13

02:00 Techrights-sec; Is there an example page with code tags on TR?

02:00 Techrights-sec; Can you show a URL for one? I'll take a look.

02:00 schestowitz-TR; yes

02:00 schestowitz-TR; all the pages that have the codes in them

02:00 schestowitz-TR; file name, followed by contents

02:00 schestowitz-TR; I think that is what bnchs wanted

02:02 schestowitz-TR; did you takedown the nginx/proxy service or dit it break again moments ago?

02:02 schestowitz-TR; I'll restart the service

02:02 Techrights-sec; I have not touched it

02:03 Techrights-sec; It shouldn't crash though so I wonder what's in the logs about it.

02:03 schestowitz-TR; restarted

02:03 schestowitz-TR; have not checked logs

02:04 schestowitz; http://gemini.techrights.org/proxy?url=gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/tr-git/

http://gemini.techrights.org/proxy?url=gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/tr-git/

02:04 Techrights-sec; systemd should restart it: Restart=on-failure

02:04 Techrights-sec; so if it is not, journalctl -xe might show something.

02:05 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gemini.techrights.org | Gemini Proxy for Techrights

02:20 Techrights-sec;

02:20 Techrights-sec; Thanks. Looking.

02:20 Techrights-sec; It's already there but not working correctly.

02:20 Techrights-sec; Found the error in the pattern and another one in the logic.

02:21 Techrights-sec; ok try Git

02:22 schestowitz-TR; I just have and have told bnchs

02:22 schestowitz-TR; I hope the proxy won't get locked up again, at least I caught is very quickly both time

02:22 schestowitz-TR; *times

02:22 schestowitz-TR; it ran ok for 1 month and 30 days

02:23 Techrights-sec; Did /var/log/nginx/error.log have any info ?

02:23 schestowitz-TR; I did not check

02:23 schestowitz-TR; I was very tired

02:23 schestowitz-TR; fixed the serviced

02:23 schestowitz-TR; crashed in bed

02:23 schestowitz-TR; not much sleep lately

02:23 schestowitz-TR; in fact I'll head back to bed in a moment

02:24 Techrights-sec; Oh. Sleep is important

02:24 Techrights-sec; The service will need restarting and the script will need copying to the

02:24 Techrights-sec; right place.

02:24 Techrights-sec; (in the reverse order)

02:25 schestowitz-TR; i will do it now quikckly

02:25 schestowitz-TR; IIRC, 2 things will need restarting

02:25 schestowitz-TR; ior reloading

02:31 schestowitz-TR; I am pulling from git on the pi

02:31 schestowitz-TR; I used to do all this from dolphin, but the windows were on the right locations

02:32 Techrights-sec; systemctl daemon-reload

02:32 Techrights-sec; systemctl restart gemini-proxy.service

02:32 Techrights-sec; or something like that

02:32 Techrights-sec; /usr/local/bin/gemini-proxy.pl

02:38 schestowitz; cp /home/gemini/gemini/git/tr-git/Gemini/Gemini-Proxy/gemini-proxy.pl /usr/local/bin/gemini-proxy.pl

02:38 schestowitz; diff /usr/local/bin/gemini-proxy.pl /tmp/gemini-proxy.pl

02:38 schestowitz; 131a132

02:39 schestowitz; > my $pre = 0;

02:39 schestowitz; 182,184c183,190

02:39 schestowitz; < } elsif ($line =~ m/^\`\`\`\s/) {

02:39 schestowitz; < $line =~ s/^\`\`\`\s+//;

02:39 schestowitz; < print qq(<pre>$line</pre>\n);

02:39 schestowitz; ---

02:39 schestowitz; > } elsif ($line =~ m/^\`\`\`\s+/) {

02:39 schestowitz; > if ($pre) {

02:39 schestowitz; > $pre = 0;

02:39 schestowitz; > print qq(</pre>\n);

02:39 schestowitz; > } else {

02:39 schestowitz; > $pre=1;

02:39 schestowitz; > print qq(<pre>\n);

02:39 schestowitz; > }

02:39 schestowitz; 187a194,197

02:39 schestowitz; > }

02:39 schestowitz; > if ($pre) {

02:39 schestowitz; > print qq(</pre>\n);

02:39 schestowitz; > pre = 0;

02:39 schestowitz-TR; fetching, replaced from git, compared (diff) to the one in tmp

02:39 Techrights-sec; see /tmp/gemini-proxy.pl

02:40 Techrights-sec; oops. that plus should be a star.

02:40 Techrights-sec; see /tmp/gemini-proxy.pl

02:41 schestowitz-TR; ok, finalising

02:41 Techrights-sec; that's what I had gone in to fix :/

02:46 schestowitz-TR; failed

02:46 schestowitz-TR; exit-code

02:46 schestowitz-TR; can you slip the previous version under /tmp ?

02:47 schestowitz-TR; I did not cp the old one for backup

02:47 Techrights-sec; please revert to the old one and I'll look later in more detail

02:47 Techrights-sec; I'll need to set up a test system here or something and that will take some

02:47 Techrights-sec; significant amount of time.

02:47 Techrights-sec; and I was too slow to think of that and missed it by seconds.

02:47 Techrights-sec; Ill dig it out of Git

02:50 schestowitz-TR; [01:13] <MinceR> no, i don't have to

02:50 schestowitz-TR; [01:13] <AltLink_edbc> Tomorrow, Richard Stallman will be speaking about the #freesoftware movement and your freedom. His speech w

02:50 schestowitz-TR; ill be nontechnical and admission is gratis. Online at 14:00 EDT (18:00 UTC) https://u.fsf.org/3i-

↺ https://u.fsf.org/3i-

02:50 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fsf.org | Richard Stallman: The state of the free software movement Free Software Foundation Working together for free software

02:50 schestowitz-TR; 1

02:50 schestowitz-TR; now it runs OK again

02:50 schestowitz-TR; showing in green

02:50 Techrights-sec; please try /tmp/gemini-proxy.pl it is reverted

02:50 Techrights-sec; It will not be right, Ill have to work on it later

02:50 Techrights-sec; thanks


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08:11 Techrights-sec; please try /tmp/gemini-proxy.pl when you get a chance

08:11 schestowitz-TR; i have just had to restart kttpd on tuxmachines

08:12 schestowitz-TR; strange

08:12 schestowitz-TR; will deploy file in a moment

08:15 schestowitz-TR; crap, I didn't make a backup of the working file before swapping them arond

08:15 schestowitz-TR; this one too has an error

08:15 schestowitz-TR; and though I could get a working version pulled from git

08:15 schestowitz-TR; I guess I could wait till you get back

08:15 schestowitz-TR; it's not a super-essential service anyway

08:21 schestowitz; <li>

08:21 schestowitz; <h5><a href="https://gwolf.org/2022/04/how-is-the-free-firmware-for-the-raspberry-progressing.html">How is the free firmware for the Raspberry progressing?</a></h5>

↺ https://gwolf.org/2022/04/how-is-the-free-firmware-for-the-raspberry-progressing.html">How

08:21 schestowitz; <blockquote>

08:21 schestowitz; <p>Raspberry Pi computers require a piece of non-free software to boot the infamous raspi-firmware package. But for almost as long as there has been a Raspberry Pi to talk of (this year it turns 10 years old!), there have been efforts to get it to boot using only free software. How is it progressing?</p>

08:21 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gwolf.org | Gunnar Wolf How is the free firmware for the Raspberry progressing?

08:21 schestowitz; </blockquote>

08:22 schestowitz; </li>

08:22 schestowitz;

08:22 schestowitz;

08:22 schestowitz;

08:22 schestowitz;

08:22 schestowitz; <li>

08:22 schestowitz; <h5><a href="https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/12/introducing-the-arduino-secure-boot/">Introducing the Arduino secure boot</a></h5>

↺ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/12/introducing-the-arduino-secure-boot/">Introducing

08:22 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.arduino.cc | Introducing the Arduino secure boot

08:22 schestowitz; <blockquote>

08:22 schestowitz; <p>By default, keys are not loaded in flash, and the bootloader will boot any sketch. Once the keys are loaded MCUboot will always verify the image signature and boot only valid sketches; if an encrypted update is detected by reading the TLVs, MCUboot will unwrap the encryption key and decrypt the image on-the-fly while moving it into the internal flash.</p>

08:22 schestowitz; </blockquote>

08:22 schestowitz; </li>

08:33 schestowitz-TR; :D

08:33 schestowitz-TR; it has only been 'down' 30 mins

08:33 schestowitz-TR; not sure how long tuxmachines httpd had issues for

08:33 schestowitz-TR; but apachtop avg waas 0.5, so I assume only several minutes

08:33 schestowitz-TR; this morning's tuxmachines LOCAL backup dump is 422mb compressed

08:33 schestowitz-TR; so as I expected the caches are piling up

08:33 Techrights-sec; was there a specific error message?

08:33 Techrights-sec; that's about how long I was out

08:33 Techrights-sec; should the caches be excluded from the backups_

08:33 Techrights-sec; ?

08:34 schestowitz-TR; no, that's not a problem

08:34 schestowitz; Apr 13 08:12:48 raspberrypi systemd[1]: gemini-proxy.service: Start request repeated too quickly.

08:34 schestowitz; Apr 13 08:12:48 raspberrypi systemd[1]: gemini-proxy.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.

08:34 schestowitz; Apr 13 08:12:48 raspberrypi systemd[1]: Failed to start Gemini Proxy Service.

08:34 schestowitz; Apr 13 08:12:51 raspberrypi systemd[1]: gemini-proxy.service: Start request repeated too quickly.

08:34 schestowitz; Apr 13 08:12:51 raspberrypi systemd[1]: gemini-proxy.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.

08:34 schestowitz; Apr 13 08:12:51 raspberrypi systemd[1]: Failed to start Gemini Proxy Service.

08:39 Techrights-sec; ok, anything in nginx's error log?

08:39 Techrights-sec; I think i see the line with the error

08:40 schestowitz-TR; i have not looked at logs

08:40 schestowitz-TR; I had a tough night

08:40 schestowitz-TR; as I was assigned some puppet deployments

08:40 schestowitz-TR; for a client I hate a lot

08:41 Techrights-sec; sounds like a rough night then

08:42 Techrights-sec; try /tmp/gemini-proxy.pl

08:42 schestowitz-TR; trying

08:42 schestowitz-TR; now it is green!

08:44 Techrights-sec; ok, but does it work ;)

08:46 schestowitz-TR; 502

08:46 schestowitz-TR; wait

08:46 schestowitz-TR; it seemed slow

08:46 schestowitz-TR; then it sort of works

08:46 schestowitz-TR; the page with '''

08:46 schestowitz-TR; slanted quotes

08:46 schestowitz-TR; shows up strange

08:46 schestowitz-TR; ~/git/tr-git/

08:46 Techrights-sec; ok 1) i've removed the changes, /tmp/ has the old one now; 2) I''l have to

08:46 Techrights-sec; set up a local web server with a local instance of the proxy here before I

08:46 Techrights-sec; waste more of your effot

08:48 schestowitz-TR; I've not reverted back

08:48 schestowitz-TR; to the previous versio

08:48 schestowitz-TR; as now you can see what it looks like

08:48 schestowitz-TR; in pages with slanted '''


9 AM, April 13

09:00 schestowitz-TR; I've just copied the file

09:00 schestowitz-TR; reloaded

09:00 schestowitz-TR; and restarted

09:00 schestowitz-TR; see ~/git/tr-git/

09:00 schestowitz-TR; i'm not sure, but I think it used to look different

09:11 schestowitz-TR; based on the montanstic email, tuxmachines became unavailable when the backup started

09:11 schestowitz-TR; and was down until I restarted httpd

09:11 schestowitz-TR; I will monitor it tomorrow at that time in case it's a recurring issue

09:12 Techrights-sec; checking. it may be a while

09:12 Techrights-sec; I have a local intance of the proxy to work on now

09:12 Techrights-sec; I'll add TM to the local monitor here, but it will take some major revision

09:12 Techrights-sec; to do that, not hard though, just fiddly adjustments;

09:17 schestowitz-TR; maybe it is not related to the backups

09:17 schestowitz-TR; downtime was detected at a rather different time

09:21 Techrights-sec; ack

09:21 Techrights-sec; gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/tr-git/ has lots of unnecessary ``` marks

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/tr-git/

09:21 Techrights-sec; ack

09:21 schestowitz-TR; i will be keeping a close eye on it throughout the day

09:21 schestowitz-TR; 3 hours downtime due to us not monitoring it isn't "los of revenue"

09:21 schestowitz-TR; but can erode rankings, lower exposure to "Linux" etc.

09:21 schestowitz-TR; going to work out now, the 'boss' says I need exercise


10 AM, April 13

10:00 Techrights-sec; Ok, I think it works now, at least it does locally. Try /tmp/ again

10:05 schestowitz-TR;

10:05 schestowitz-TR; ok

10:05 schestowitz-TR; seems to work!

10:05 schestowitz-TR; I don't want to add any special styling to it because it's code

10:05 schestowitz-TR; ok, seems to work very well

10:06 schestowitz-TR; I will try to prioritise EPO later today

10:06 schestowitz-TR; though gemini is still growing and i have lots to say

10:13 Techrights-sec; ack

10:14 schestowitz-TR; i am a little angry at the m,oment

10:14 schestowitz-TR; reading about propublica

10:14 schestowitz-TR; moaning about pandemic profiteers

10:14 schestowitz-TR; while bagging bribes from gates

10:14 schestowitz-TR; it stopped covering the tax evasion

10:14 schestowitz-TR; and all thius utterly shitty media never covers patent issues

10:14 schestowitz-TR; like WTO bought all the media, or interests like that satellite

10:14 schestowitz-TR; and although I've not gotten sick personally

10:14 schestowitz-TR; I see the damage all around me

10:14 schestowitz-TR; /rant over

10:14 Techrights-sec; I concur

10:15 schestowitz-TR; there are still 10k idiots who PAY tyo watch CNN

10:15 schestowitz-TR; with DRM and all

10:15 schestowitz-TR; not just through cable conglemerates

10:16 Techrights-sec; If you look at recent editions of Linux Mint, it requires Restricted Boot

10:16 Techrights-sec; to be active if it is to install the proprietary codecs. As far as I know

10:16 Techrights-sec; that means they are pushing some kind of DRM with anti-end user lock down

10:16 Techrights-sec; and lock in

10:21 schestowitz-TR; one potential way to tackle this

10:21 schestowitz-TR; is proliferation of

10:21 schestowitz-TR; circumvention mechanisms

10:21 schestowitz-TR; and workarounds

10:21 schestowitz-TR; or complete alternatives

10:21 schestowitz-TR; fwiw, I don't regard lbry as such

10:21 schestowitz-TR; not a viable and trusted one

10:21 schestowitz-TR; to promote all the known instances of invidious

10:21 schestowitz-TR; for videos that strictly exist in gulagtube

10:21 schestowitz-TR; excepot the clownflarted ones

10:21 schestowitz-TR; I think that can help

10:21 schestowitz-TR; to boost their numbers

10:21 schestowitz-TR; and make it hard for gulag's lawyers to chasing just one instance

10:21 schestowitz-TR; like invidio.us

10:21 schestowitz-TR; because the technical attack is a collusion

10:21 schestowitz-TR; and an attack on culture itself

10:21 schestowitz-TR; and peopls' ability to controls the means of production and distribuion

10:23 Techrights-sec; DMCA and EUCD pre-emptively block that. DMCA makes publication of advice

10:23 Techrights-sec; regarding cirumvention, even as simple as base64 or ROT-13, into a major

10:23 Techrights-sec; felony with a 5-year jail sentence

10:23 Techrights-sec; yes it is most definitely an attack on culture.

10:23 Techrights-sec; For a while, when the PP was active, they used to talk about (re-)freeing

10:23 Techrights-sec; culture. They are still active in Germany but have shutdown or been

10:23 Techrights-sec; neutralized in other countries. The US cannot have small parties because

10:24 Techrights-sec; of the first past the post voting which ensures two parties and furthermore

10:24 Techrights-sec; the funding process ensures that core policies of the two parties overlap.

10:24 schestowitz-TR; Russia has one Putin. US has two putins on rota/rotation.

10:25 schestowitz-TR; Now, since nov 2020, questioning the integrity of voting itself is "fascism"

10:25 schestowitz-TR; inc. proprietary electronic voting machines

10:26 schestowitz-TR; you can even get sued for LIBEL

10:28 schestowitz-TR; "don't insult islam"

10:28 schestowitz-TR; ->

10:28 schestowitz-TR; "don't insult palm oil"

10:28 schestowitz-TR; ->

10:28 schestowitz-TR; "don't insult secret code"

10:28 Techrights-sec; ack

10:28 Techrights-sec; etc


11 AM, April 13

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11:09 schestowitz-TR; not surprise that he digs in deeper with his anti-Freedom stance against

11:09 schestowitz-TR; regular computing

11:09 schestowitz-TR; With restricted boot and TPM the end user is cut out of the loop

11:09 Techrights-sec; not surprise that he digs in deeper with his anti-Freedom stance against

11:09 Techrights-sec; regular computing

11:09 Techrights-sec; With restricted boot and TPM the end user is cut out of the loop

11:09 Techrights-sec; No point arguing with that shill though

11:09 schestowitz-TR; No point arguing with that shill though

11:10 schestowitz-TR; yes, nothing has changed

11:10 schestowitz-TR; I was gonna say [citation needed]

11:10 schestowitz-TR; for FSF arguing that restricted boot

11:10 schestowitz-TR; can be good

11:10 schestowitz-TR; maybe he mistook LF for FSF

11:10 Techrights-sec; or he's just lying to troll better, as usual

11:14 schestowitz-TR; <mjg59_> Techrights-sec: How is regular computing inhibited by this?

11:14 schestowitz-TR; <mjg59_> Techrights-sec: Yo uh could you actually justify your claims here

11:14 schestowitz-TR; trolls are best ignored

11:15 schestowitz-TR; I learned this in UNETENT around 2005

11:15 schestowitz-TR; when they provoked me

11:15 schestowitz-TR; then I reacted

11:15 schestowitz-TR; and for years the reaction was taken out of context

11:15 schestowitz-TR; tuxmachines is doing ok and the proxy runs OK too

11:15 schestowitz-TR; I will monitor them during the day

11:15 schestowitz-TR; as things changed a little

11:38 schestowitz-TR; bte, the main irc channel is in chaos because of the provocateur

11:38 schestowitz-TR; *btw

11:38 schestowitz-TR; but let's not mind it

11:38 schestowitz-TR; i tried using links to budge it back on constructive debates

11:38 schestowitz-TR; not a war over UEFI/EFI

11:38 schestowitz-TR; regarding python, i can only 'hack' on it

11:38 schestowitz-TR; I used to do a lot of C

11:39 schestowitz-TR; I can cope with some other langs but need a refresher

11:39 schestowitz-TR; the direction "modern" langs have taken

11:39 schestowitz-TR; is apis and massive frameworks

11:39 schestowitz-TR; that has cons and pros

11:39 schestowitz-TR; like making "apps" fast

11:39 schestowitz-TR; reminds me of MATLAB

11:39 Techrights-sec; ack

11:39 Techrights-sec; python is annoying, you cannot copy a list by using the = operator

11:39 Techrights-sec; but must do a special function on the list

11:39 Techrights-sec; don't feed the troll

11:39 Techrights-sec; the language does not feel well design or fully thought out

11:39 Techrights-sec; it's still worlds better than PHP though

11:40 schestowitz-TR; you know, I was thinking the other night (did not sleep easily)

11:40 schestowitz-TR; it's quit a miracle that given the pace of fake innovation

11:40 schestowitz-TR; tuxmachines still uses a DB so old

11:40 schestowitz-TR; without some DBMS and DBA

11:40 Techrights-sec; GNU Octave?

11:40 Techrights-sec; yes, that is becoming harder and not just for technical reasons

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11:43 schestowitz-TR; icbm has a new buzzwords for it, which they use every day

11:43 schestowitz-TR; "transformation

11:43 schestowitz-TR; sometimes "modernisation"

11:43 schestowitz-TR; they mean stuff like kubernetes

11:43 schestowitz-TR; even for 2-machine clusters

11:43 schestowitz-TR; once you do it you are adding a lot of extra baggage

11:43 schestowitz-TR; for very little practical benefit

11:43 schestowitz-TR; just tech vanity

11:43 schestowitz-TR; and then you might end up buyiong support contract

11:43 schestowitz-TR; side note,

11:43 schestowitz-TR; small media a client of ours

11:43 schestowitz-TR; defunct now btw

11:43 schestowitz-TR; was using ansible

11:43 schestowitz-TR; a colleague spent a lot of time learning it

11:43 schestowitz-TR; around the time red hat took over

11:43 schestowitz-TR; he's now feuding with my colleague who puts puppet everywhere

11:43 schestowitz-TR; and moans that he can no longer exercise the "skillz" he gained"

11:43 schestowitz-TR; he also 'studied' (memorised) a lot of AWS

11:43 schestowitz-TR; it beggars belief

11:44 Techrights-sec; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_law

↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_law

11:44 Techrights-sec; proprietary is always a losing proposition he should just suck it up and

11:44 Techrights-sec; acknowledge there are sunken costs

11:44 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Parkinson's law - Wikipedia

11:44 Techrights-sec; https://time.com/5347133/sunk-cost-fallacy-decisions/

↺ https://time.com/5347133/sunk-cost-fallacy-decisions/

11:44 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The Sunk Cost Fallacy Is Ruining Your Decisions. Here's How | TIME

11:46 schestowitz-TR; imagine us "upgrading" to centos latest a couple of years back

11:46 schestowitz-TR; many business did that

11:46 schestowitz-TR; and invested a lot based on the word of red hat

11:46 schestowitz-TR; re long-term support, inc. backported kernels

11:46 schestowitz-TR; they must have that for COMPLIANCE

11:46 schestowitz-TR; and then it was like, "lol, real sorry, changed out minds, "STREAMS""

11:47 schestowitz-TR; corrolary: sometimes being "dumb" and "behind" and "dinobaby"

11:47 schestowitz-TR; can be a bit of a compliment

11:47 schestowitz-TR; this morning FDC was going on and on about his "luxury" car

11:47 schestowitz-TR; don't laugh, he had very tough upbringing

11:47 schestowitz-TR; and how repairing modern cars would cost a fortune

11:47 schestowitz-TR; and they would not last long anyway

11:50 schestowitz-TR; "number of approved applications for access to TANF funding have been cut" https://www.projectcensored.org/states-hoard-federal

↺ https://www.projectcensored.org/states-hoard-federal

11:50 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/states-hoard-federal )

↺ https://www.projectcensored.org/states-hoard-federal

11:50 schestowitz-TR; -assistive-funding-amidst-record-poverty-levels/

11:50 schestowitz-TR; > "Pensions are a form of payment wherein an employee accepts lower wages while working in exchange for a fund that accrues saving

11:50 schestowitz-TR; s for their retirement" https://www.projectcensored.org/wall-street-leverages-working-class-pensions/

↺ https://www.projectcensored.org/wall-street-leverages-working-class-pensions/

11:50 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/wall-street-leverages-working-class-pensions/ )

↺ https://www.projectcensored.org/wall-street-leverages-working-class-pensions/

11:50 schestowitz-TR; plus inflation

11:50 schestowitz-TR; the plan is to keep us eternally labouring

11:50 schestowitz-TR; like in singapore

11:50 schestowitz-TR; for banksters

11:50 schestowitz-TR; and fake "luxury"

11:50 schestowitz-TR; like a shoebox with a bed and "smart" phone in it

11:50 schestowitz-TR; and SHOPPING MALLS!

11:51 Techrights-sec; ack

11:51 Techrights-sec; not just laboring but treading water so to speak so that the nose is never more

11:51 Techrights-sec; than just barely above the surface

11:54 schestowitz-TR; re an earlier point (that I had made about the hurt to our neighbours)

11:54 schestowitz-TR; we talked about a bunch of things and how covid19 patents are not even

11:54 schestowitz-TR; mentioned anywhere in the media

11:54 schestowitz-TR; a lot of businesses here are shutting down

11:54 schestowitz-TR; rianne keeps reporting to me more and more that vanish

11:54 schestowitz-TR; and those desperate to send leaflets asking you to buy food

11:54 schestowitz-TR; though it's too risky to go out to dine out

11:54 schestowitz-TR; covid19 was used here to pass some anti-congregation laws

11:54 schestowitz-TR; so activism will be digital

11:54 schestowitz-TR; social control media is not controlled by us

11:54 schestowitz-TR; but they will pass new laws to target t hose they cannot herd and gaslight

11:55 Techrights-sec; last I checkee the downtown here was getting quite empty o the ground floor

11:55 Techrights-sec; social control media prevents digital activism that is one reason it is pushed

11:55 Techrights-sec; so heavily by the media and those that control the media

11:55 Techrights-sec; I suppose soon self hosting will be illegal it is getting defacto illegal

11:55 Techrights-sec; especially e-mail.

11:59 schestowitz-TR; i had an illuminating comment in IRC the other day

11:59 schestowitz-TR; by fisgosdev/matey

11:59 schestowitz-TR; he was surprised we use the "real" wordpress

11:59 schestowitz-TR; afaik, techdirt marius nestor and many others parcelled off their sites

11:59 schestowitz-TR; to wordpress.com

11:59 schestowitz-TR; there is a convenient option there to buy or add your domain

11:59 schestowitz-TR; then they more or less hide

11:59 schestowitz-TR; wordpress.com is not a web host with wordpress

11:59 schestowitz-TR; it's based on wordpress MU

11:59 schestowitz-TR; it is a multi-tenanted instyanc

11:59 schestowitz-TR; so you do not even get your own hosted wordpress

11:59 schestowitz-TR; you get an account on some frankeninstall

11:59 schestowitz-TR; so to fidosdev it was a shock we do drupal the old fashioned way

11:59 schestowitz-TR; like, you know, actually putting the files there

11:59 schestowitz-TR; and now just opening an account and giving credit card number

11:59 schestowitz-TR; this led me to thinkning of the skills that would be lost

11:59 schestowitz-TR; and that maybe expolains why my stupid employer

11:59 schestowitz-TR; is deep-throating "clown" everything


noon, April 13

12:01 Techrights-sec; yep

12:04 schestowitz-TR; I could go on and on, i literally VANISHED the techrights irc channel from sight

12:04 schestowitz-TR; just to be able to focus on what matters

12:05 schestowitz-TR; there's lots of marguing there atm

12:05 schestowitz-TR; rioianne is meanwhile posting links, I will jump in after here (we try not to do it concurrently for fear of "dupes")

12:05 schestowitz-TR; one advantage we have is that our operations are very portable and some are self-hosted from a home

12:05 schestowitz-TR; in opur company,

12:05 schestowitz-TR; as I joke with rianne a lot

12:05 schestowitz-TR; after closing our office in july 2020

12:05 schestowitz-TR; we're nothing

12:05 schestowitz-TR; we're just some fucking aws account and a bunch of idiots

12:05 schestowitz-TR; with a few clueful people still sticking around

12:05 schestowitz-TR; and a list of PAST clients

12:05 schestowitz-TR; to be able to attract some new ones

12:05 schestowitz-TR; based ona long-lost reputation

12:05 Techrights-sec; opening an account, putting a credit card there and then opening incoming

12:05 Techrights-sec; FTP for the root file system

12:05 Techrights-sec; `excellent

12:05 schestowitz-TR; >> FTP for the root file system

12:05 schestowitz-TR; Welcome back, 1995

12:05 schestowitz-TR; Geocities

12:08 schestowitz-TR; ot: you'd think for a person who thinks of himself or fancy himself tec hero

12:08 schestowitz-TR; garrett would have much more pressing things to do than spend 3 hours

12:08 schestowitz-TR; on a weekday, maybe 4am in the us, trolling an irc channel;

12:11 Techrights-sec; an astroturfer by any other name

12:12 schestowitz-TR; mention nsa or wikileaks or general-purpose computing and the troll gets

12:12 schestowitz-TR; "triggered" and 'enabled'

12:12 schestowitz-TR; must have some "reasonable" voice in fsf board too

12:12 schestowitz-TR; to protect us from all those "radicals" like rms

12:12 schestowitz-TR; oh, and eff, for sure... barlow was friends with assange, that's like

12:12 schestowitz-TR; being in hesbollah

12:14 Techrights-sec; ack

12:15 schestowitz-TR; around 7 years ago tor 'cleaned house' and in the name of "professionalism"

12:15 schestowitz-TR; put some 'adults' in charge

12:15 schestowitz-TR; to herd trhe cat and soon remove 35% of the coders

12:15 schestowitz-TR; including public shaming of ioerror

12:15 schestowitz-TR; he did try to make a comeback

12:15 schestowitz-TR; and a swarm of threats came in twiyyer

12:15 schestowitz-TR; he should have focused on his own site

12:15 schestowitz-TR; not 105k followers or stalkers

12:15 Techrights-sec; jake

12:17 schestowitz-TR; corporate HQ: UEFI "disparaged"; threat detected at techrights channel at techrights network

12:17 schestowitz-TR; dispatching agent

12:17 schestowitz-TR; secure boot ENABLED.

12:17 schestowitz-TR; threat mitigated

12:17 schestowitz-TR; for the sake of 'balance'

12:17 schestowitz-TR; (joe

12:17 schestowitz-TR; (joke)

12:19 Techrights-sec; klaxons sound

12:19 Techrights-sec; that "both sides" crap is not about balance it is about propaganda though

12:19 Techrights-sec; empirical facts are not equal weight to opinions or wishes

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12:21 schestowitz-TR; a balance between the truth and a lie is called "perception"

12:21 schestowitz-TR; there is a product (or service) that manages this balance

12:21 schestowitz-TR; billg is a frequent customer

12:21 schestowitz-TR; twitter is one of the vendors to him

12:21 schestowitz-TR; and now some big-mouth nsouth african gets to tweak #trending andother

12:21 schestowitz-TR; aspects in that site

12:21 schestowitz-TR; he take "the dive"

12:21 Techrights-sec; apparently

12:23 schestowitz-TR; in daily links today and yesterday, automated stuff too, this is highlighted

12:23 schestowitz-TR; but then again so much of the economy is based o closted insider trading

12:23 schestowitz-TR; and now robbery of the savers' class

12:23 schestowitz-TR; by inflation mostyl

12:23 schestowitz-TR; 12% in one year in NL

12:23 Techrights-sec; he appears to use it for financial manipulation, the SEC is too slow and toohless to interfere with him;

12:23 Techrights-sec; yes it looks that way all around

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2 PM, April 13

14:31 schestowitz-TR; B

14:31 schestowitz-TR; ruce Schneier pretends this is not about Microsoft Windows. But it is (.exe file). He's compromised to me.... https://www.schneier

↺ https://www.schneier

14:31 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Could not resolve host: www.schneier; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://www.schneier )

↺ https://www.schneier

14:31 schestowitz-TR; .com/blog/archives/2022/04/russian-cyberattack-against-ukrainian-power-grid-prevented.html

14:31 Techrights-sec; I just saw that. It's more windoze tco which he has become part of the problem

14:31 Techrights-sec; by trying to dress it up as a wider problem.

14:32 schestowitz-TR; I put the original in Daily Links yesterday along with Editorial comment. EXE, Windows, Bruce spins that...

14:32 schestowitz-TR; At least Bruce has not yet contratulated Microsoft for saviing Ukraine from Russsian aggression

14:32 schestowitz-TR; give him time..

14:45 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.eu/FOSSForce/status/1514237473622216704#m

↺ https://nitter.eu/FOSSForce/status/1514237473622216704#m

14:45 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.eu | FOSS Force (@FOSSForce): "Ruby Patches Important Bugs | Tux Machines https://buff.ly/3M1Acik" | nitter

↺ https://buff.ly/3M1Acik"

14:47 Techrights-sec; probably soon

14:47 Techrights-sec; m$ creates the problem situation itself and then gets credit for pretending

14:47 Techrights-sec; to clean it up; If they were in any way serious, Ukraine would move fully

14:47 Techrights-sec; to FreeBSD and GNU/Linux or better OpenBSD

14:48 schestowitz-TR; the media deserts won't tell us what goes on

14:48 schestowitz-TR; Dan Goodin will shitpost for Conde

14:48 schestowitz-TR; and Brucie will swallow that up

14:50 Techrights-sec; ack

14:52 schestowitz-TR; Mumble is an open-source VoIP application Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163677

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163677

14:52 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Mumble is an open-source VoIP application | Tux Machines

14:53 Techrights-sec; ack

14:53 Techrights-sec; there are some features on that list which I had not read of before


3 PM, April 13

15:17 Techrights-sec; LF is dirt

15:17 Techrights-sec; but then that appears to the main goal of the principals involved

15:17 Techrights-sec; Why else would vmware, M$ and the others join the board if not to

15:17 Techrights-sec; subvert and dilute the GPL and Linux

15:32 schestowitz-TR; [13:37] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2019/08/29/linux-foundation-swag/

http://techrights.org/2019/08/29/linux-foundation-swag/

15:33 schestowitz-TR; [13:37] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- techrights.org | Linux Foundation Swag, Corrected Edition | Techrights

15:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Swag, Corrected Edition | Techrights

15:33 schestowitz-TR; [13:37] <matey> does it mention which hotel?

15:33 schestowitz-TR; [13:38] <schestowitz-TR> maybe

15:33 schestowitz-TR; [13:38] <schestowitz-TR> I forgot

15:33 schestowitz-TR; [13:38] <schestowitz-TR> some expensive one

15:33 schestowitz-TR; [13:38] <matey> /me checks to see if his text copy has that one

15:33 schestowitz-TR; [13:38] <schestowitz-TR> like radisson or hilton

15:33 schestowitz-TR; [13:38] <schestowitz-TR> to keep the "smelly hippies" out

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15:53 schestowitz-TR; Testing Figures Diminish to Lowest Since 2020 as Government Strategy Morphs Into COVID Denial (COVIDiots in Charge)

15:53 Techrights-sec; ack

15:53 Techrights-sec; :(

15:54 schestowitz-TR; 'kill people, not the economy"

15:54 schestowitz-TR; "without people, there's no econony"

15:54 schestowitz-TR; (not actual quotes)

15:55 schestowitz-TR; anyway, with NHS getting privatised

15:55 schestowitz-TR; all those people who are disabled will be returning customers

15:56 Techrights-sec; ack

15:57 schestowitz-TR; from experience at work

15:57 schestowitz-TR; colleagues get re-infected

15:57 schestowitz-TR; or jsut catch other diseases more than before

15:57 schestowitz-TR; rianne gets many extra shifts

15:57 schestowitz-TR; one tomorrow, daytime, too

15:57 schestowitz-TR; I think immune systems get weakened by both the virus and the jab

15:57 schestowitz-TR; there were stufied to that effect

15:57 schestowitz-TR; but that seems suppressed in the media

15:57 schestowitz-TR; "media deserts"

15:59 schestowitz-TR; ---

15:59 schestowitz-TR; f'ing s-, more of the blogs i subed to for linux news turn to 100% spam

15:59 schestowitz-TR; and I don't know whether to delete them, in case they turn back around

15:59 schestowitz-TR; the issue I have is,

15:59 schestowitz-TR; even if they suddenly post some unix/linus "content"

15:59 schestowitz-TR; linking to them would sending in circulation for the spam

15:59 schestowitz-TR; and if it's like 50%+ spam (even 90%), then what am I doing?


4 PM, April 13

16:02 Techrights-sec; For feeds like that, I shunt them into a separate bookmark folder and ignore

16:02 Techrights-sec; them for a /very/ long time and then check on them at some point much later

16:02 Techrights-sec; not very many, in fact none so far, have recovered and been worth moving back

16:02 Techrights-sec; to the main set of feeds / bookmarks

16:02 Techrights-sec; If it's mostly spam then even if they have occasional bait, don't take risk

16:03 schestowitz-TR; I have just disabled updates

16:03 schestowitz-TR; not that I give much of a f about gulag and "search"

16:03 schestowitz-TR; but they can also penalise if linked to

16:03 schestowitz-TR; as a sort of deranking by association

16:07 schestowitz-TR; am i crazy or is the news very very very slow?

16:07 schestowitz-TR; I know the weekend coming up is long

16:07 schestowitz-TR; but in past years the news did not slow until thurs

16:07 schestowitz-TR; I cannot find topics to actually cover

16:08 schestowitz-TR; I try

16:08 schestowitz-TR; but this is like wtf?

16:08 schestowitz-TR; epo also

16:08 Techrights-sec; very very very very slow these days, it has slowed down further in recent weeks

16:08 Techrights-sec; yes

16:10 schestowitz-TR; probably more "journalists" are wasting hours and days in social control media

16:10 schestowitz-TR; lost from reality

16:10 Techrights-sec; probably more "journalists" are wasting hours and days in social control media

16:10 Techrights-sec; lost from reality

16:16 Techrights-sec; ?

16:16 schestowitz-TR; I have other explanations

16:16 schestowitz-TR; thinking

16:16 schestowitz-TR; while posting linskt o rianne's posts in TM

16:16 schestowitz-TR; let's start with this

16:16 schestowitz-TR; we are part of the issue now

16:16 schestowitz-TR; as we do not post much

16:16 schestowitz-TR; then we ask, why?

16:17 schestowitz-TR; it's a chain effect

16:17 schestowitz-TR; someone needs to 'seed' stories

16:17 schestowitz-TR; wikileaks is dead, but not offically

16:17 schestowitz-TR; also, lack of viable media lowers the incentive to break news

16:17 schestowitz-TR; as if would hardly get noticed

16:17 schestowitz-TR; the media wrotew a lot abotu epo in 2015

16:17 schestowitz-TR; also cited us

16:17 Techrights-sec; ack

16:17 Techrights-sec; well infrasdtructure (word press etc) are getting exponentially complex

16:17 Techrights-sec; oh. primary versus secondary and lesser sources

16:17 Techrights-sec; yes

16:17 Techrights-sec; but there have been several rounds of consolidations, layoffs, and shutdowns

16:17 Techrights-sec; since 205

16:17 Techrights-sec; 2015

16:19 schestowitz-TR; consolidatiob begets coordination such as media blackout

16:19 schestowitz-TR; this morning, from daily links, I got a simialr explanation about inflation

16:19 schestowitz-TR; the food giants control and can price-fix key products

16:19 schestowitz-TR; once you have no alternative to their sodas or whatever

16:19 schestowitz-TR; so it's a well orchestrated move while regimes sit on their palms

16:21 schestowitz; note dates:

16:21 schestowitz; https://www.theregister.com/Author/Kieren-McCarthy/

↺ https://www.theregister.com/Author/Kieren-McCarthy/

16:21 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.com | Kieren McCarthy The Register

16:22 schestowitz; https://www.theregister.com/Author/Tim-Anderson

↺ https://www.theregister.com/Author/Tim-Anderson

16:22 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.com | Tim Anderson The Register

16:23 schestowitz-TR; Kieren helped a lot in drawing attention to EPO and UPC scandsals

16:23 schestowitz-TR; not only in the UK as English is widely understood

16:23 schestowitz-TR; he also wasn't soft on Microsoft

16:23 schestowitz-TR; there's a guy I met here for coffee as he covered EPO issues

16:23 schestowitz-TR; that was around the time EPO was going very hardball on the media

16:24 Techrights-sec; that was the BBC article which got spiked?

16:24 schestowitz-TR; different guy. WHo also wrote for Bill's guardian.

16:24 schestowitz-TR; and RMS's mentor

16:25 Techrights-sec; So THe Register pulled the plug on Kieren

16:26 schestowitz-TR; the register hired sjvn

16:26 schestowitz-TR; but he only appears there once in a few weeks

16:27 schestowitz-TR; last article this morning

16:27 schestowitz-TR; pro-"Linux"

16:27 schestowitz-TR; they also hired Liam

16:27 schestowitz-TR; who covers FOSS for them

16:27 schestowitz-TR; that's a net positive actually

16:27 schestowitz-TR; Anderson's cocky "FOSS" coverage was Microsoft shilling

16:27 schestowitz-TR; maybe he got busy doing other things like Microsoft Peter

16:27 schestowitz-TR; pizza and stuff (just kidding, not nice)

16:27 Techrights-sec; I doubt SJVN will ahve the opportunity to redeem himself. Same for The Register

16:27 Techrights-sec; They will not return to the pre-2002 sharp edge they once had

16:29 schestowitz-TR; those were very different time for

16:29 schestowitz-TR; 1) the web

16:29 schestowitz-TR; 2) the economy

16:29 schestowitz-TR; 3) access to media (social control media was not a think, yet)

16:29 schestowitz-TR; 4) many publishers were supported financially by

16:29 schestowitz-TR; a) printed publication

16:29 schestowitz-TR; b) future promises, about the promise of the web, hence investors

16:29 Techrights-sec; back then one couldn't even skim more than a tiny fraction of headdlines

16:29 Techrights-sec; in 2 hours

16:30 schestowitz-TR; yes, i sort of fondly remember those time

16:30 schestowitz-TR; sot of

16:30 schestowitz-TR; as sometimes I felt a litrle drowneed

16:30 schestowitz-TR; info overload

16:30 schestowitz-TR; not you can manage to see all the "important" thing

16:30 schestowitz-TR; and then you see more people linking to the same thing

16:30 schestowitz-TR; and you realise, "it's a small world (wide web)"

16:33 schestowitz-TR; but here isa key things

16:33 schestowitz-TR; it benfits shills like Microsoft

16:33 schestowitz-TR; and reckless orgs like epoo

16:33 schestowitz-TR; because it is cheaper for them to manage the image

16:33 schestowitz-TR; wikipedia+few publishers that still piss at the wind

16:33 schestowitz-TR; and maybe some employees who stroll and troll social control media

16:33 schestowitz-TR; maybe buy some ads in twitter

16:33 schestowitz-TR; get them to censor for you

16:33 schestowitz-TR; "sponsored trends" are thing in Twitter

16:33 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft buys some of them

16:33 schestowitz-TR; the indfian official was right

16:33 schestowitz-TR; some terending is literally ads

16:33 Techrights-sec; yes the small scale means that they need to buy fewer sites to purchase

16:33 Techrights-sec; significant percentages of influence

16:33 Techrights-sec; Wikipedia is not much more than an edit war

16:33 Techrights-sec; yes

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5 PM, April 13

17:12 Techrights-sec; HTML5 is quite a poor idea, too.

17:12 Techrights-sec; Javascript is worst because of the maintenacnce nightmares it adds to the other

17:12 Techrights-sec; problems like running programs of unknown origin on your computer as if

17:12 Techrights-sec; the browser were a VM

17:12 schestowitz-TR; am adjusting noisetorch

17:12 schestowitz-TR; so that IU can play the RMS talk on one machine

17:12 schestowitz-TR; and record my reaction to it

17:12 schestowitz-TR; on the other

17:12 schestowitz-TR; as it stands, mixing two people or audio sources does not work

17:12 schestowitz-TR; well with noisetorch as it tries to cancel one

17:12 schestowitz-TR; but if it's turned off then you can hear background hum

17:12 schestowitz-TR; the two is 2pm boston time, so I assume 7pm here, 2 hours

17:12 Techrights-sec; interesting

17:12 Techrights-sec; That's in an hour?

17:12 Techrights-sec; or two?

17:12 Techrights-sec; ack

17:16 schestowitz-TR; i thought of this in the kitchen, I think

17:16 schestowitz-TR; and I want to clarify

17:16 schestowitz-TR; there are things RMS won't be "allowed" to say

17:16 schestowitz-TR; we discussed this today in IRC

17:16 schestowitz-TR; so I can try to complete some gaps

17:16 schestowitz-TR; as a side note

17:16 schestowitz-TR; it may take a while for them to upload the talk

17:16 schestowitz-TR; and if I talk back, then it is fair use

17:16 schestowitz-TR; nothing disrespectful

17:16 schestowitz-TR; I am trying to get the logistics right

17:16 schestowitz-TR; it's a sony headphone set from the new laptop lying on the other laptop while I talk in front of it

17:16 schestowitz-TR; if I want to fit in the image of him talking (I think it's spurious, just another man with webcam)

17:16 schestowitz-TR; lips movings, mine do too

17:16 schestowitz-TR; maybe I can shift to the screen after a while and show stuff in the browser while talking

17:16 schestowitz-TR; if the core talk is 1 hour and then q a follows, upload won't take long

17:16 schestowitz-TR; maybe 2 hours

17:16 Techrights-sec; ack

17:16 Techrights-sec; sometimes the questions are actually appropriate and thoughtful

17:18 schestowitz-TR; yes, but they would prolong the recording and the prepared talk is what he properly invested effort

17:18 schestowitz-TR; in. So better to respond to the final product, like assessing a paper rather than

17:18 schestowitz-TR; some unfinished product

17:18 schestowitz-TR; with prepared talk he cannot argue he was caught "off guard"

17:18 Techrights-sec; ack

17:21 Techrights-sec; yes

17:22 schestowitz-TR; I did not look into the noisetorch algo

17:22 schestowitz-TR; but it is very very unsuitable for multiple voices

17:22 schestowitz-TR; all I wanted to do is a threshold being set for removal of 'whitenoise'

17:22 schestowitz-TR; instead it tries to find one sound/voice source, then isolated it

17:22 schestowitz-TR; it would be OK if people did not spead 'on top' of each other or at the

17:22 schestowitz-TR; same time

17:24 Techrights-sec; :(

17:24 Techrights-sec; what about one voice per channel?

17:24 Techrights-sec; are there different channels for RMS and the others or are theu all jumbled

17:24 Techrights-sec; up into one and the same track?

17:24 schestowitz-TR; logistical nightmare because unless yolu use JACK or similar you end up having to load two file

17:24 schestowitz-TR; in a video/audio editor, then mixing them

17:55 Techrights-sec; the streaming should start soon but there is only a placeholder on the

17:55 Techrights-sec; web page...

17:55 schestowitz-TR; yes, I have sharted the link in irc

17:55 schestowitz-TR; the webm

17:55 schestowitz-TR; and noted that it's not up yet

17:55 schestowitz-TR; also see my draft\

17:55 schestowitz-TR; iv'e adjusted the volume a bit to balance the two voices

17:55 schestowitz-TR; assuming they choose "nmormal" volume level


6 PM, April 13

18:04 Techrights-sec; does not seem to work in FF

18:04 Techrights-sec; "The FSF is a charity with a worldwide mission to advance software freedom"

18:05 schestowitz-TR; I have added ogg audio link

18:05 schestowitz-TR; which is working already

18:05 schestowitz-TR; and I play it int he background as it will tell me when the footage starts

18:05 schestowitz-TR; FF works ok for me, but no video yet as it 404s

18:06 Techrights-sec; The Low-Resolution link plays in FF

18:10 Techrights-sec; https://live.fsf.org/rms-libreplanet-2022-lowres.webm

↺ https://live.fsf.org/rms-libreplanet-2022-lowres.webm

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18:16 TechrightsBN; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBN running phIRCe v0.77

18:30 schestowitz-TR; ack

18:30 schestowitz-TR; the academic quarter has come and gone, now he is onto the double quarter ...

18:30 Techrights-sec; ack

18:30 Techrights-sec; the academic quarter has come and gone, now he is onto the double quarter ...

18:32 schestowitz-TR; [18:06] <schestowitz-TR> and working

18:32 schestowitz-TR; [18:06] <matey> still 4040 here

18:32 schestowitz-TR; [18:08] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2022/04/13/rms-the-state-of-the-free-software-movement/

http://techrights.org/2022/04/13/rms-the-state-of-the-free-software-movement/

18:32 schestowitz-TR; [18:08] <schestowitz> cjchanged url in http://techrights.org/2022/04/13/rms-the-state-of-the-free-software-movement/

http://techrights.org/2022/04/13/rms-the-state-of-the-free-software-movement/

18:32 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Richard Stallmans Talk (Livestream) | Techrights

18:32 schestowitz-TR; [18:08] <schestowitz> nowq it plays

18:32 schestowitz-TR; 18:23] <schestowitz-TR> I am going to adjust the fonts in Konversation

18:32 schestowitz-TR; [18:24] <schestowitz-TR> to make it more visible

18:32 schestowitz-TR; [18:17] <schestowitz-TR> if this channel is active

18:32 schestowitz-TR; [18:18] <schestowitz-TR> and people watch and respond

18:32 schestowitz-TR; [18:18] <schestowitz-TR> then we'll have a video or RMS talking

18:32 Techrights-sec; ack

18:32 Techrights-sec; with the delay, I probably won't be able to watch the whole thing live,

18:32 Techrights-sec; perhaps I should just wait to see if they publish it later

18:32 schestowitz-TR; [18:18] <schestowitz-TR> and you responding to him in IRC

18:32 schestowitz-TR; I will start recording soon

18:32 schestowitz-TR; I will focus on the IRC channel

18:32 schestowitz-TR; But may use the browser too

18:32 schestowitz-TR; increased font sizes

18:32 schestowitz-TR; totally experimental

18:32 schestowitz-TR; had to set output to 150% volume on the headphone

18:33 schestowitz-TR; historically, his online talks started later than scheduled


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