-- Leo's gemini proxy

-- Connecting to gemini.techrights.org:1965...

-- Connected

-- Sending request

-- Meta line: 20 text/gemini;lang=en-GB

IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, February 13, 2023

back to Techrights (Main Index)


beginning of new day, February 13

00:28 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell

00:32 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell


1 AM, February 13

01:46 *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)

01:46 *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)

01:50 *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell

01:50 *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@e29ec4gtxas4w.irc) has joined #boycottnovell


3 AM, February 13

03:13 schestowitz-pi; trying to assess what to cover next regarding github

03:13 schestowitz-pi; github series 38+39...

03:13 schestowitz-pi; more statcounter stuff MIGHT be interesting, I'll give that a look first

03:15 techrights[sec]; Interesting, when searching StartPage for "github layoffs" it recommends

03:15 techrights[sec]; correcting the search query to "gitlab layoffs" instead

03:15 techrights[sec]; Apparently they will also fire people, about 7% or 130 employees

03:15 techrights[sec]; I guess steer people to src.ht and the others

03:16 schestowitz-pi; sourcehut has issues too

03:16 schestowitz-pi; maybe not codeeberg

03:16 schestowitz-pi; sourcehut wants money from projects it previously hosted for free

03:16 schestowitz-pi; and it does mass censorship of projects, starting with "crypto"

03:16 schestowitz-pi; everything devault doesn't fancy

03:17 techrights[sec]; m$ has money (or at least pretends to) for its LLM chatbot:

03:17 techrights[sec]; https://www.forbes.com/sites/qai/2023/02/10/github-to-layoff-10-of-global-workforce-in-latest-tech-cuts/

↺ https://www.forbes.com/sites/qai/2023/02/10/github-to-layoff-10-of-global-workforce-in-latest-tech-cuts/

03:17 techrights[sec]; m$ github will close all offices:

03:17 techrights[sec]; https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/tech-layoffs-microsoft-owned-github-to-shed-10-employees-wi

↺ https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/tech-layoffs-microsoft-owned-github-to-shed-10-employees-wi

03:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.forbes.com | Github To Layoff 10% Of Global Workforce In Latest Tech Cuts

03:18 techrights[sec]; ll-close-all-offices/articleshow/97798728.cms

03:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/tech-layoffs-microsoft-owned-github-to-shed-10-employees-wi )

↺ https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/tech-layoffs-microsoft-owned-github-to-shed-10-employees-wi

03:18 techrights[sec]; including hq

03:18 schestowitz-pi; wow!

03:18 schestowitz-pi; maybe another part is in order then

03:18 schestowitz-pi; iirc, gitlab is remote [sic] work based for years already

03:36 schestowitz-pi; draft

03:44 schestowitz-pi; i could ask people inside intel, but maybe not a priority atm

03:44 schestowitz-pi; (tbh)

03:44 schestowitz-pi; pensions, github, other stories more important to us

03:45 techrights[sec]; checking

03:45 techrights[sec]; might want to restate the trend noticed two days ago, in addition to the link

03:45 techrights[sec]; there are otherwise too many links to click on randomly and the text

03:45 techrights[sec]; needs to convey the message anyway for Gemini

03:45 techrights[sec]; The paragraph about Sirius needs a tie-in to the main part of the post, at least

03:45 techrights[sec]; a sentence connecting its relevance to the GitHub layoffs or office closings

03:45 techrights[sec]; s/going to do./going to do?/

03:45 techrights[sec]; '

03:46 schestowitz-pi; i will graft it back onto kate and reword more patiently

03:46 schestowitz-pi; no need to hurry in this vase

03:46 schestowitz-pi; *case

03:46 schestowitz-pi; not an exclusive


4 AM, February 13

04:01 schestowitz-pi; the other day you mentioned nokia dn yahoo

04:01 schestowitz-pi; what was the third one you mentioned?

04:01 schestowitz-pi; i forgot

04:01 techrights[sec]; LF ? OLTP was killed by M$ too

04:01 techrights[sec]; That was well documented at the time but those articles are irretrievably in

04:01 techrights[sec]; the past now and buried by the search engines and chaff

04:13 schestowitz-pi; i soemtimes find myself wondering what % of ddos is due to open port, default password

04:13 schestowitz-pi; internet of shit and what % is windows

04:13 schestowitz-pi; we know internet of shit, bsd and linux, has like 10 times more market share than windows by now

04:13 schestowitz-pi; as i no longer use google anything (not even youtuve or invidious) to identify news

04:13 schestowitz-pi; i don't know if the fud nearly stopped or i'm just not seeing it

04:13 schestowitz-pi; maybe it's for the better, even if the latter

04:14 techrights[sec]; Windows botnets are being constantly used for DDoS attacks to hassle various

04:14 techrights[sec]; web sites. There are many articles about DDoS, basically some every day.

04:14 techrights[sec]; However, they all try to make it sound mysterious and unavoidable rather than

04:14 techrights[sec]; point out the central role that M$ plays in enabling such attacks.

04:14 techrights[sec]; Some of that might be marketing in order to promote the clownflare surveillance\

04:14 techrights[sec]; engine and other activity monitoring methods.

04:24 schestowitz-TR2; Android up to 45% of ALL market share, Windows down to 27% this month https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-201802-202302

↺ https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-201802-202302

04:24 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gs.statcounter.com | Operating System Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global Stats

04:24 schestowitz-TR2; gs.statcounter.com | Operating System Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global Stats

04:24 schestowitz-TR2; Microsoft Edge market share fell 5% this month, IN SPITE of all the media SPAM from Microsoft https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share#monthly-201802-202302 Edge staff being laid off, too

↺ https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share#monthly-201802-202302

04:24 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gs.statcounter.com | Browser Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global Stats

04:24 schestowitz-TR2; gs.statcounter.com | Browser Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global Stats

04:25 schestowitz-pi; going to run the new script now

04:26 schestowitz-pi; on the whole list of feeds, the 1000+ entries opml file


6 AM, February 13

06:05 schestowitz-pi; just recorded 3 videos for three articles

06:05 schestowitz-pi; mostly good news today

06:05 schestowitz-pi; all videos are good news

06:05 schestowitz-pi; for a change


8 AM, February 13

08:08 schestowitz-pi; [07:41] <schestowitz-TR2> "After almost 3 years, the PussTheCat.org Nitter instance has been shut dow

08:08 schestowitz-pi; n permanently."

08:08 techrights[sec]; ack

08:09 schestowitz-pi; 2 drafts

08:09 schestowitz-pi; videos processing

08:09 schestowitz-pi; had kitchen incident again today, due to forgetting I was boiling water there

08:10 schestowitz-pi; no big deal, but some burned finger, wasste of time, waste of energy

08:10 schestowitz-pi; i will always set a timer from now on

08:15 techrights[sec]; Timer is essential. It's seldom needed but the times it actually is needed

08:15 techrights[sec]; it is irreplaceable.


9 AM, February 13

09:13 techrightssec; There are also the old style whistling kettles

09:13 techrightssec; or at least there used to be.

09:58 *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving)


11 AM, February 13

11:44 schestowitz-TR2; Credentialism and the Fate of Academia https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/02/13/credentialism-and-the-fate-of-academia/ | Source: Counter Punch

↺ https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/02/13/credentialism-and-the-fate-of-academia/

11:44 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Credentialism and the Fate of Academia - CounterPunch.org

11:48 schestowitz-pi; [long]

11:48 schestowitz-pi; something occured to me this morning

11:48 schestowitz-pi; as a longtime and well off editor from the 90s contacted me and wishes to meet in person

11:48 schestowitz-pi; writing books is rather pointless these days, as people barely buy books like they used to

11:48 schestowitz-pi; [reasons... does not matter, that's how it is]

11:48 schestowitz-pi; when it comes to www sites, much of the same is becoming true

11:48 schestowitz-pi; [reasons... does not matter, that's how it is]

11:48 schestowitz-pi; 20 years ago a decent news site could get an article read many times, but not anymore

11:48 schestowitz-pi; no matter the quality

11:48 schestowitz-pi; imagine spending months researching something, only for a small audience

11:48 schestowitz-pi; so those jobs seem to have passed

11:48 schestowitz-pi; sjvn does not even write much in his new (latest) site

11:48 schestowitz-pi; he had many, they failed

11:48 schestowitz-pi; glaymoody also keeps swapping platforms

11:49 schestowitz-pi; as does cory doctorow

11:49 schestowitz-pi; turns out his wife is his editor

11:53 techrights[sec]; People rarely buy books because so few can read long form any more and don't

11:53 techrights[sec]; have the ability to concentrate enough to do it. Then most of the rest don't

11:53 techrights[sec]; have any time because of lots of unpaid overtime, commuting, etc.

11:53 techrights[sec]; 20 years ago there was not enough time in the day to even read through the

11:53 techrights[sec]; headlines let alone the articles. That's why the site Slashdot, prior to sale,

11:53 techrights[sec]; flourished. It acted as a filter for quality and relevance, plus allowed for

11:53 techrights[sec]; some commentary and discussion. M$ and related interests hated it and fought

11:53 techrights[sec]; it for years but then were able to purchase it outright and gut it, leavig

11:53 techrights[sec]; the husk for spam and such. After one such sale it was used to point people to

11:53 techrights[sec]; the propaganda and disinformation service "Reddit"

11:58 schestowitz-pi; this is at least partly a political and societal issue, not tech and www issue

11:58 schestowitz-pi; i honesty do not know a solution to it

11:58 schestowitz-pi; i am powerless to change it

11:59 schestowitz-pi; and it's not my role to change it, we're all cogs

11:59 schestowitz-pi; having said that, doing what's right on one's own is often fine

11:59 schestowitz-pi; the system gravitates towards crippling anything that MIGHT channelnge it

11:59 schestowitz-pi; like the golden era of "leaky" web, they had to crush sites like wikileaks

11:59 schestowitz-pi; and to caution others who thought about replicating the success of manning and snowden

11:59 schestowitz-pi; putin doesn't take "this shit" at all

11:59 schestowitz-pi; you get in trouble the moment you show lack of "gratitude" to the regime -- same as tehran and beijing

11:59 techrights[sec]; And Usenet before that.


noon, February 13

12:05 schestowitz-pi; i have meanwhile found another decent instance of nitter

12:05 schestowitz-pi; there are too many of them to destroy them all (at the moment)

12:05 schestowitz-pi; i have my 'theory' about why twitter can stay online while cops/courts target the relay/s

12:05 schestowitz-pi; the way i look at it, if you poke something with a stick, don't expect a lack of response

12:05 schestowitz-pi; slapp, threats to that effect, smears, swatting, doxxing

12:05 schestowitz-pi; in myanmar they even doxx critics with sex tapes now

12:06 techrights[sec]; It's a rhetorical question but why are the authorities not stomping on twitter

12:06 techrights[sec]; but only on the nitter mirrors?

12:06 techrights[sec]; KSA

12:07 schestowitz-pi; the simplest explanation might be, they use twitter as a honeypot

12:08 schestowitz-pi; not necessarily adding cp to it

12:08 schestowitz-pi; but using what's there to harvest ips

12:08 schestowitz-pi; with nitter it can become trickier

12:08 schestowitz-pi; it is rerouted indirectly, via some node

12:08 schestowitz-pi; matt dehart was accused of cp something

12:08 schestowitz-pi; iirc, he just ran some tor node

12:08 schestowitz-pi; and some anthrax related stuff came through it

12:09 techrights[sec]; And to control the narrative and steer discussion and set public opinion one

12:09 techrights[sec]; way or another.

12:11 schestowitz-pi; i only use nitter to observe mentions of domains of words

12:11 schestowitz-pi; to bypass the noise

12:11 schestowitz-pi; but tbh, twitter feels more and more dead over time

12:11 schestowitz-pi; people flock away

12:11 schestowitz-pi; it's a "downward spiral"

12:11 schestowitz-pi; nitter might be obsolete in a few years

12:11 schestowitz-pi; let's hope invivious will be too

12:11 schestowitz-pi; due to google blocking my rss feed requests I've not received any updates

12:11 schestowitz-pi; about youtube channels for weeks

12:11 schestowitz-pi; seeing what happened to youtube, maybe it's better this way

12:11 schestowitz-pi; that just mostly means fewer links to videos

12:11 schestowitz-pi; they never break news anyhow

12:16 schestowitz-pi; i know we needed to change, and that time was at the essence

12:16 schestowitz-pi; as finding meaningful, original news was getting hard even months ago

12:16 schestowitz-pi; banal news cycles, like LF and linux.com, put people off

12:16 schestowitz-pi; we need toi attract sources

12:16 schestowitz-pi; for 60 days I was the source to myself, but after 12 years

12:16 schestowitz-pi; notice how almost nobody in media, lest foss sites, mentioned what happened to github

12:16 schestowitz-pi; and the ramifications

12:18 schestowitz-pi; liam dawe and boiling steam become catalogues of drm (most games), phoronix is mailing list and PR

12:18 schestowitz-pi; commentator, foss force is still not sure what it is, marius tracks new releases mostly

12:21 techrights[sec]; Shutting down Github was an evenutality once the sale to M$ looked likely to

12:21 techrights[sec]; go through. Indeed it serves m$ goals anyway to do so even if they to what

12:21 techrights[sec]; damage they can on the way out.

12:21 schestowitz-pi; btw, one of the videos today devotes about a minute explaining that msfters needs to retrain

12:21 schestowitz-pi; and why spreading microsoft elsewhere would be damaging

12:21 schestowitz-pi; if nobody covers those things, fine, but it does need to be said

12:23 techrights[sec]; Maybe that 1 minute can be expanded into a post?

12:23 techrights[sec]; ^ topic ?

12:23 techrights[sec]; msfters can't retrian they lack both the aptitude and the skill set; It'd be

12:23 techrights[sec]; one thing if they were staring from noll but the way they are, it'd take decades

12:23 techrights[sec]; for them to unlearn the mistakes and trash they have taken to heart.

12:24 techrights[sec]; The mindset behind the m$ products is anathema to being able to work with

12:24 techrights[sec]; computers in a constructive and meaningful way. The higher they rise and the

12:24 techrights[sec]; more senior they become, the more distant they get from IT proper.

12:24 techrights[sec]; IT as in the stuff which built the Internet, Usenet, and then WWW 1.0 and even

12:24 techrights[sec]; to a limited extent 2.0

12:27 schestowitz-pi; what is web2? js?

12:32 techrights[sec]; Not the JS part, it was still server-side for the most part back then.

12:32 techrights[sec]; Now the server component is negligible and it merely feeds GB of javascript

12:32 techrights[sec]; to clients in the form of web "apps" instead of actual pages.

12:32 techrights[sec]; Yes it is already mostly replaced by web "app" served over HTTP.

12:32 techrights[sec]; When HTTP/3 arrives, the web will be officially dead, IMHO. HTTP/3 retains

12:32 techrights[sec]; no beneficial aspects.

12:33 schestowitz-pi; seeing what happens in fb (moments ago), seems www is going away in SOME sense

12:33 schestowitz-pi; geminispace too has been relatively quiet lately

12:33 schestowitz-pi; not dead, just quieter

12:33 schestowitz-pi; it's a good thing we managed to save while "techbubble" and fututeHopes(TM) (debt) were

12:33 schestowitz-pi; still there

12:33 schestowitz-pi; so someone else is left holding the bag

12:34 schestowitz-pi; do you want to proofread portions of andy's upcoming book? it covers some of these themes

12:34 techrights[sec]; It would be interesting, I'm not sure how much I could contribute though

12:38 schestowitz-pi; Re: GitHub to Shut Down All Offices, Including Its Headquarters

12:38 schestowitz-pi; > Im sure theyre losing a lot of hosting contracts right now

12:43 schestowitz-pi; from reasonably informed source.

12:43 schestowitz-pi; i think this, along with news of msft layoffs, should be cause for celebrating in the foss

12:44 schestowitz-pi; "community" (it exists, but suppressed)

12:44 schestowitz-pi; the other day i noticed that in recent weeks TR video got a major boost in b/w

12:44 schestowitz-pi; i don't track per page/post

12:44 schestowitz-pi; but it's good to know even historic material comes in handy for some

12:44 schestowitz-pi; os even if i post nothing on a given day, that does not mean nothing read

12:44 schestowitz-pi; i've relayed the email to andy

12:44 schestowitz-pi; it's like reading the book one chapter at a time

12:44 schestowitz-pi; with a chance to suggest changes before it's final

12:44 schestowitz-pi; books are yesterday's "trophies"

12:44 schestowitz-pi; when distribution was done by dead tree medium

12:44 schestowitz-pi; or radio, tv, airwaves

12:50 schestowitz-pi; andy is like a tehc ethicist

12:50 schestowitz-pi; not this "hey hi" (bs, buzzword) "ethicist"

12:50 schestowitz-pi; and has lots of time to think how to put the situation in words

12:50 schestowitz-pi; there is no obligation to give feedback, but it is possible


1 PM, February 13

13:04 *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)

13:04 *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)

13:10 *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell

13:10 *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@e29ec4gtxas4w.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

13:11 schestowitz-pi; just ran grep for webm, mp4, ogg, past 4 weeks

13:11 schestowitz-pi; about 140k requests

13:12 schestowitz-pi; actually, 3 weeks+1 day, seems the past week was higher too

13:30 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell

13:31 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell


2 PM, February 13

14:52 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell

14:59 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell


8 PM, February 13

20:28 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell

20:29 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

20:36 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell

20:39 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

20:52 *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@97vqpiyuz47fy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell


9 PM, February 13

21:18 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell

21:21 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

21:56 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell

21:56 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell


IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, February 13, 2023


back to Techrights (Main Index)

-- Response ended

-- Page fetched on Sun May 19 17:00:59 2024