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18:45 schestowitz-TR; Just opened the envelope
18:45 schestowitz-TR; very, very nice
18:45 schestowitz-TR; I will ready it a secondt time, this time a lot more slowly, some time tomorrow
18:46 schestowitz-TR; I often wonder what it is like to live in a sort of isolated place, as a friend sort of did (we visited this past summer)... but I suppose that just like the war in general-purpose computing there will be attempts to metaphorically herd people
18:47 Techrights-sec; the speed with which it arrived was a surprise
18:48 schestowitz-TR; I have 70 unread items left in IRC for patents. tonight 3 posts piled up already for sweden. let me know of any article ideas... I have more spare time than I anticipated this morening
18:49 schestowitz-TR; btw, phoronix did not mention Microsoft lately, and I have reasons to suspect we have the ntended effect
18:51 Techrights-sec; That's good , Phoronix had been a good site and would only lose its reader base
18:51 Techrights-sec; by sucking up to Redmond. In exchange for selling out he would not gain
18:51 Techrights-sec; the traffic from any microsofters.
18:51 Techrights-sec; So it was a losing proposition even if it looked like money at first.
18:52 schestowitz-TR; there is a saying along the lines of, not sure of original or language of origin
18:52 schestowitz-TR; it takexs x to gain credibility and [less than x[ to lose it
18:52 Techrights-sec; yep
18:53 schestowitz-TR; michael is so bruised in the eyes of many in techrights irc
18:53 schestowitz-TR; rianne is less forgiving them me (years ago she was already furious at SJVN) and she says no poit sneding traffic again to larabel as he is not predictable and cannot be trusted
18:54 schestowitz-TR; sorry for typos
18:54 schestowitz-TR; you know what I meant
18:54 schestowitz-TR; anyway, I should type in IRC first, then copy across
18:55 schestowitz-TR; tuxmachines was, according to alexa, sending biggest traffic source for larabel
18:55 Techrights-sec; I'd say its' worth watching the situation and seeing if he recovers his
18:55 Techrights-sec; form and if so only then link to him again.
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19:10 schestowitz-TR; serious question
19:10 schestowitz-TR; I no longer driver
19:10 schestowitz-TR; I don't have smart phone
19:10 schestowitz-TR; only landline
19:10 schestowitz-TR; how can I write about those risks without coming across as some foolish hypocrite?
19:21 Techrights-sec; Not hypocritical. You successfully avoid the problems you warn about.
19:21 Techrights-sec; However, the "smart"phones and the surveillance engines in everyting else
19:21 Techrights-sec; are harder to avoid. I know someone in the US who bought and installed
19:21 Techrights-sec; Amazon's Ring (tm) "doorbell" and didn't give a shit about any of the
19:21 Techrights-sec; technical shortcomings let alone the privacy disaster it embodies.
19:21 Techrights-sec; So the issue is not hypocracy but distance from the average slob in regards
19:21 Techrights-sec; to views and experiences. Some whine about wages yet at the same time
19:21 Techrights-sec; exploit slave labor like Wolt or Doordash or whatever. Another showed the map
19:21 Techrights-sec; of his house, via his smartphone, drawn by the vacuum cleaner which feeds
19:21 Techrights-sec; all data back to HQ for processing. The map and control over the device
19:21 Techrights-sec; are crumbs in exchange for the data, yet because the map was "on" the phone
19:21 Techrights-sec; and the phone never leaves his person it is seen as secure.
19:21 Techrights-sec; Others are all in WhatsApp and Instagram yet claim they never use Facebook, being uninterested in that. Further
19:21 Techrights-sec; more, they like the others, they respond that
19:21 Techrights-sec; they never send anything to the net even though it all goes through Instagram
19:21 Techrights-sec; or WhatsApp. For them, it is "on" their phones...
19:21 Techrights-sec; So the common theme is that none of them have even an inkling about how the
19:21 Techrights-sec; systems and devices work and where and how the data is collected and passed
19:21 Techrights-sec; around.
19:21 schestowitz-TR; some of these things I did not know. So I guess being repetitive and explaining these points is the latest one can do, seeing that govs won't put an end to it because they benefit from the collection and even subsidise this
19:22 Techrights-sec; For the rest it is as Max Schrems calls forced consent. There are no choices
19:22 Techrights-sec; if one gets a phone, a tv, a car, or any number of products these days,
19:23 schestowitz-TR; in most situations there is still a choice, but the window of escape is closing fast and there is penalty for non-adopters
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19:27 schestowitz-TR; what other outreach method?
19:27 schestowitz-TR; wiki?
19:27 schestowitz-TR; articles?
19:28 schestowitz-TR; in my very narrow poov, the idea goes like this
19:28 schestowitz-TR; start with an ieda
19:28 schestowitz-TR; get clueful people to read it
19:28 schestowitz-TR; then, offline, they will pass on the message
19:28 schestowitz-TR; or online but not directly
19:28 Techrights-sec; There is also the challenge of re-decentralization which goes against the
19:28 Techrights-sec; push by GAFAM to eliminate the last of the small and medium sized players.
19:28 Techrights-sec; The question about certificates is not a technical matter but of one about
19:28 Techrights-sec; which institutions are allowed to vouch for a CA.
19:29 schestowitz-TR; LF does the same now for "apps"
19:29 schestowitz-TR; with sigstore
19:29 schestowitz-TR; or whatever gulag and ibm call it
19:29 schestowitz-TR; LF fronts for them
19:29 schestowitz-TR; so you are talking about doing the same as they do on there www but to binaries
19:31 schestowitz-TR; btw, at x86 level with uefi they attempoted to leverage monopoly/monoculkture for "trust"
19:31 schestowitz-TR; mode, controlled by Microsoft, for OS you boot
19:31 Techrights-sec; yes that would be another
19:31 Techrights-sec; example. Also the "app" store don't actually vet the software other than to
19:31 Techrights-sec; ensure that no independent repositories are allowed to survive.
19:34 schestowitz-TR; generally speaking, I miantain that highest "bang for the buck" pub-wise is Daily Links
19:34 schestowitz-TR; as there is never enough time to cover everything but linking to
19:34 schestowitz-TR; those who have put in the effort helps both them and the readers
19:34 schestowitz-TR; I doi wonder if there is room for technical work that somehow makes the
19:34 schestowitz-TR; assemlage of these links more usable, e.g. some ways of correlating stories, also
19:34 schestowitz-TR; across days, based on themes and such
19:34 schestowitz-TR; I like how in lagrange the Dailyt Links posts
19:34 schestowitz-TR; are shows with categories along the left, based on headings
19:35 schestowitz-TR; like a bookmark
19:37 Techrights-sec; Cataloging the stories would be a whole separate task ...
19:37 Techrights-sec; It would be very very useful to do so, but probably consume twice again as much
19:37 Techrights-sec; time as collecting and collating the links in the first place. Plus
19:37 Techrights-sec; cataloging is rather though intensive. Most of all, consistency is the
19:37 Techrights-sec; essential factor and that means having as few people as possible work on the
19:37 Techrights-sec; task over time, since even with collaborators, there is little overlap.
19:37 schestowitz-TR; the overlap agrow and will grow as news runs dry. already, for foss, half of what you sent me I included already
19:37 schestowitz-TR; ;-)
19:39 Techrights-sec; So one cannot achieve perfect accuiracy just consisitency.
19:39 Techrights-sec; Yes as lamented over the last few years, the news really is drying up more and
19:39 Techrights-sec; more. There are really only a few good, relevant articles per day at most. On
19:39 Techrights-sec; some days, there are even fewer. Friday through Monday, for example, are quite
19:39 Techrights-sec; empty.
19:39 schestowitz-TR; except in india
19:41 schestowitz-TR; shifting to a more relevant point in 20013-14 I lacked time to cover stories so I experimented with turning FOSS News Picks into mini stories. That was still time consuming, basically short articles (like bruce Scheier) with a long list of references at the bottom
19:44 Techrights-sec; The Indian sites have material but it is a very small percentage of the actual
19:44 Techrights-sec; articles, and a lot to wade through.
19:44 Techrights-sec; People are getting boxed in regarding choice of products and the loss of control
19:44 Techrights-sec; ushered in with the new devices. Schrems covers some of the web sites, but
19:44 Techrights-sec; while that is going on online, there is a far worse situation happening
19:44 Techrights-sec; around /everyone/ in the physical world. Everything has at least a microcontro
19:44 Techrights-sec; ller in it. USB-C cables are computers...
19:44 Techrights-sec; whereas USB-A cables were simply wires.
19:46 Techrights-sec; As for the list of references, I would highly recommend a reference database
19:46 Techrights-sec; Zotero is good in principle but has a terrible and inefficient interface.
19:48 Techrights-sec; I use WordPresss
19:48 Techrights-sec; failing that, GulagSearch
19:48 Techrights-sec; in the web era, refs is just a url or url+title pair
19:48 Techrights-sec; in articles I always include both, even if in the body of an article
19:48 Techrights-sec; it makes it easier to locate artiocles when they vanish years later
19:50 schestowitz-TR; I use WordPresss
19:50 schestowitz-TR; failing that, GulagSearch
19:50 schestowitz-TR; in the web era, refs is just a url or url+title pair
19:50 schestowitz-TR; in articles I always include both, even if in the body of an article
19:50 schestowitz-TR; it makes it easier to locate artiocles when they vanish years later
19:50 Techrights-sec; you were just mentioning adding in keywords, too, the title, URL and summary
19:50 Techrights-sec; can be harvested automatically from the daily links but then adding
19:50 Techrights-sec; a line or two of comments plus keywords (subject headings) can be quite
19:50 Techrights-sec; inconvenient with a bad interface.
19:50 Techrights-sec; Caching the body of the article would be useful too, that can be fetched using
19:50 Techrights-sec; the URL.
19:51 schestowitz-TR; we can do so-called (joking) "big data" and turn the large cache of Daily Links into some new gemini pages,
19:51 schestowitz-TR; just as many wiki pages were in fact derived from site archives
19:51 Techrights-sec; Wiki is difficult and does not scale.
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20:29 schestowitz; http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/book-review-global-mandatory-fair-use.html?showComment=1638995255500#c4246663389526259311
20:29 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Book review: Global Mandatory Fair Use - The IPKat
20:29 schestowitz; "Reminds me of prof. Senftleben's attempts to expand the 'pastiche', parody or quotation exceptions to a point not supported by ordinary language nor legal sources. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3325017 and https://www.communia-association.org/2020/06/10/communia-salon-2020-2-protecting-freedom-expression-via-pastiche-exception/ Ultimately such attempts to bypass the legislative's sole power to expand the limited list of
20:29 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ssrn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3325017
20:29 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-papers.ssrn.com | User-Generated Content Towards a New Use Privilege in EU Copyright Law by Martin Senftleben :: SSRN
20:29 schestowitz; exceptions to copyright InfoSoc Directive, to mold it into a common law 'fair use' exception-lite, are wishful thinking or outcome based reasoning."
20:29 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.communia-association.org | COMMUNIA Salon 2020/2: protecting freedom of expression via the pastiche exception International Communia Association
20:30 schestowitz; http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/08/book-review-restructuring-copyright.html?showComment=1638998143347#c2761959852757770307
20:30 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Book Review: (Re)structuring Copyright, A Comprehensive Path to International Copyright Reform - The IPKat
20:30 schestowitz; "|But does the author have any view on the excessive term of protection, 70 years after the arbitrary year wherein the author deceased? "
20:31 schestowitz; http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/12/does-injunction-gap-violate.html?showComment=1638945667048#c4889665287913069687
20:31 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Does the injunction gap violate implementers' fair trial rights under the ECHR? - The IPKat
20:31 schestowitz; "
20:31 schestowitz; maintenance as granted is not the same as invalidity (in full) - the actual statistics for invalidity (in full) are below 40% for granted EP and DE patents as far as known here
20:31 schestowitz; In any event, it all depends on the specifics of the case at hand and the side that is seeking its right
20:31 schestowitz; A lawfully entitled patentee should not be deprived of their rights either... (despite any shortcomings of the injunction gap)
20:31 schestowitz; And yes experience shows German judges do grant a stay of the proceedings based on their own judgement ... (without preliminary opinion from the GFPC/BPatG
20:31 schestowitz; "
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