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1 AM, September 12

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3 AM, September 12

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03:05 psydruid; This entire comment thread is ridiculous with a "Microsoft Spatial Text Engineer" arguing against WINE and in favour of native GNU/Linux games and using Windows to run native Windows games and applications

03:05 psydruid; https://tweakers.net/downloads/61636/wine-717.html?sort=time-asc&orderBy=time&order=asc&niv=-1&mode=flat#reacties

↺ https://tweakers.net/downloads/61636/wine-717.html?sort=time-asc&orderBy=time&order=asc&niv=-1&mode=flat#reacties

03:05 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-tweakers.net | Software-update: Wine 7.17 - Computer - Downloads - Tweakers

03:06 psydruid; Is this one of their new tactics to slag off the competition?

03:07 psydruid; Being a concern troll now to Steam OS is making Windows obsolete for gaming as well


4 AM, September 12

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04:27 psydruid; that*


5 AM, September 12

05:57 schestowitz-TR2; yeah, I ignore this site


6 AM, September 12

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7 AM, September 12

07:08 Techrights-sec; otr: that's not a long track record though, and if he has pissed off marius ...

07:08 Techrights-sec; otr: where are the old articles?

07:19 psydruid; I wonder if this is a tactic employed by Microsoft across more media now that Steam is getting more traction

07:20 psydruid; I haven't seen them attacking Wine/Proton like this before

07:21 psydruid; Calling it "dubious", "possibly illegal", " technically inferior and obsolete"

07:21 psydruid; This Microshit company is getting really nasty now that its demise is imminent

07:24 schestowitz-TR2; hmmm

07:24 schestowitz-TR2; weird

07:24 schestowitz-TR2; remember in 2007 novell released a document in easter

07:25 schestowitz-TR2; about what it it had agreed with microsoft... regarding patents and wine

07:25 schestowitz-TR2; I can find articles we wrote 15 years ago

07:29 psydruid; They're also spinning it as being too cheap to want to buy a Windows licence, even though previous owners and I already paid for those on all of my laptops

07:29 psydruid; I just decide not to use is

07:29 psydruid; Rarely has a company been this deluded

07:31 psydruid; It's like all of those things from the 2000s are coming back now

07:31 psydruid; In reality the issues never went away, they were just hidden under the surface


8 AM, September 12

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9 AM, September 12

09:11 Techrights-sec; I think it had been the sudo configuration which was the only thing blocking

09:11 Techrights-sec; the gemini page.

09:11 Techrights-sec; Yes

09:11 schestowitz-TR2; prior to this the capsule updated OK for a month

09:11 schestowitz-TR2; but anyway, now we have a clone of the system with those settings intact

09:11 schestowitz-TR2; I don't want ipfs to run only from one place because when things go south, it's already "too late"

09:12 Techrights-sec; However, I don't know anything about IPFS and don't really have the

09:12 Techrights-sec; background or interest for it. That said, there ought to be a way to

09:12 Techrights-sec; nice the daemon down either with nice or ionice or both.

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; thw www is going down the toilet

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; see today's IRC logs

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; and people who don't seem to grap what's happening

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; *grasp

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; "just one more site to block"

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; "last... promise"

09:13 Techrights-sec; Yep

09:13 Techrights-sec; Just one more and it will all be perfect.

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; also conflating sites with random people who post there

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; and then insinuating that dfc posting shit makes the site liable

09:30 Techrights-sec; That conflation is getting pushed at the political level and M$ seems to be

09:30 Techrights-sec; making progress against the Biden administration in turning them against 47 U.S. Code 230

09:30 Techrights-sec; If "230" is removed, then M$ will have a free hand to censor as much as they

09:30 Techrights-sec; want without hinderance. Same for Facebook and the other malefeasants.

09:30 Techrights-sec; See Cory's notes from the other day:

09:30 Techrights-sec; https://pluralistic.net/2022/09/10/big-data/#230-quagmire

↺ https://pluralistic.net/2022/09/10/big-data/#230-quagmire

09:30 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pluralistic.net | Pluralistic: 10 Sep 2022 American healthcare did a fuckery, the White House has a plan for Big Tech big-data Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow

09:30 Techrights-sec; s/malefeasants/malfeasants/


10 AM, September 12

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10:17 schestowitz-TR2; :-)

10:17 schestowitz-TR2; any gemini capsule added, and bigger is better, helps momentum

10:18 schestowitz-TR2; "Connection refused"

10:21 Techrights-sec; Which service should new Gemini capsules be added to?

10:23 schestowitz; bottom of gemini://geminispace.info/

↺ gemini://geminispace.info/

10:24 schestowitz-TR2; not lupa

10:24 schestowitz-TR2; lupa takes the list from the crawling and other DBs

10:24 schestowitz-TR2; bottom of gemini://geminispace.info/

↺ gemini://geminispace.info/

10:39 schestowitz-TR2; ota (moz)

10:39 Techrights-sec; Thanks

10:39 Techrights-sec; ack


11 AM, September 12

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11:34 schestowitz-TR2; I think I shall take a 'break' from statcounter for a bit

11:34 schestowitz-TR2; I think we made some key points

11:34 schestowitz-TR2; and same for netcraft

11:34 schestowitz-TR2; until there is some very profound change

11:34 schestowitz-TR2; draft

11:34 schestowitz-TR2; left summary empty, as you might suggest point to emphasise

11:35 Techrights-sec; There will be an opportunity to return to the topic in a few months anyway.

11:35 Techrights-sec; It's not just that the market is readjusting it is that people are seeing it.

11:35 Techrights-sec; Or m$ is unable to hide their decline much any more.

11:35 schestowitz-TR2; psydruid made some key points today, re wine and tweakers

11:35 schestowitz-TR2; seems the trolling or face-saving BS/PR is changing

11:41 Techrights-sec; https://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/11512/cyber-crime/turkey-another-story-on-use-of-fraudulent-digital-certificates.html

↺ https://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/11512/cyber-crime/turkey-another-story-on-use-of-fraudulent-digital-certificates.html

11:41 Techrights-sec; https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/01/turkish-government-agency-spoofed-google-certificate-accidentally/

↺ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/01/turkish-government-agency-spoofed-google-certificate-accidentally/

11:41 Techrights-sec; ^ Gallagher was ok for a while

11:41 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-securityaffairs.co | Turkey - Another story on use of fraudulent digital certificates - Security AffairsSecurity Affairs

11:41 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-arstechnica.com | Turkish government agency spoofed Google certificate accidentally | Ars Technica

11:42 schestowitz-TR2; I wil add the refs, thanks

11:42 schestowitz-TR2; conde nast fired all their linux-friendly authors

11:42 schestowitz-TR2; all of them

11:42 schestowitz-TR2; same as in softpedia

11:42 schestowitz-TR2; may be good for traffic, but not for "SPONSORED"

11:42 schestowitz-TR2; nor for the moles


noon, September 12

12:25 Techrights-sec; ack

12:25 Techrights-sec; possibly this one too

12:25 Techrights-sec; https://kipdf.com/the-fundamentally-broken-browser-model_5aaea3331723dd636fbbfe24.html

↺ https://kipdf.com/the-fundamentally-broken-browser-model_5aaea3331723dd636fbbfe24.html

12:25 Techrights-sec; as it covers the more abstract problem

12:25 Techrights-sec; the above were just concrete examples

12:25 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The Fundamentally Broken Browser Model - KIPDF.COM

12:25 schestowitz-TR2; I hope I caught all the typos

12:25 schestowitz-TR2; adding a screenshot

12:25 schestowitz-TR2; I will do a sort of meme now with the second link ;-)

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12:49 schestowitz-TR2; draft

12:49 schestowitz-TR2; done


1 PM, September 12

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13:04 Techrights-sec; Ignore the kipdf link, here is the correct one:

13:04 Techrights-sec; https://www.grc.com/sn/sn-217.htm

↺ https://www.grc.com/sn/sn-217.htm

13:04 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.grc.com | Security Now! Transcript of Episode #217

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13:10 schestowitz-TR2; i am proud to have added a live stream of lpc to tux machines

13:10 schestowitz-TR2; so people can view it w/o youtube by just entering the page

13:10 schestowitz-TR2; latest page

13:10 Techrights-sec; LPC ?

13:10 schestowitz-TR2; I've added the direct link to the episode 'security now'


3 PM, September 12

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4 PM, September 12

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16:23 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> It does not say how Linux systems actually get infected, so Bruce Schneier just helps Microsoft-serving attention-shifting FUD https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/09/new-linux-cryptomining-malware.html

↺ https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/09/new-linux-cryptomining-malware.html

16:23 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-New Linux Cryptomining Malware - Schneier on Security

16:35 Techrights-sec; ack

16:36 schestowitz-TR2; blame slashdot

16:36 schestowitz-TR2; /. editor goes with this narrative

16:36 schestowitz-TR2; then security 'guru' relays it

16:36 schestowitz-TR2; along with dan goodin and other microsofters

16:46 schestowitz-TR2; I smell cookies...

16:46 schestowitz-TR2; did you write a convertor or is it fone manually?

16:46 schestowitz-TR2; /*done


5 PM, September 12

17:02 Techrights-sec; ack

17:02 Techrights-sec; It's done manually. So a couple of them are a little out of sync as I've

17:02 Techrights-sec; made some changes to the HTML first.

17:02 Techrights-sec; The bilberry liqueur can be made with blueberries instead and, if started now,

17:02 Techrights-sec; would be ready for Christmas. :)

17:03 schestowitz-TR2; I've just read a few; I realise how out of touch I am w/ cooking

17:03 schestowitz-TR2; but rianne makes up for it

17:03 schestowitz-TR2; buying premade (prepared) food is very expensive

17:03 schestowitz-TR2; very, very expensive

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18:37 Techrights-sec; ack

18:37 Techrights-sec; The sort order in TM's 'Recent Posts' should appear more sensible now.

18:37 Techrights-sec; The sorting had gotten a little complicated internally and has been simplified

18:37 Techrights-sec; now.


7 PM, September 12

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19:21 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> He repeats what the editor of Slashdot pinned there. The Microsofters then repeat him https://securityboulevard.com/2022/09/new-linux-cryptomining-malware/ t does not say how Linux systems actually get infected, so Bruce Schneier just helps Microsoft-serving attention-shifting FUD.

↺ https://securityboulevard.com/2022/09/new-linux-cryptomining-malware/

19:21 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-securityboulevard.com | New Linux Cryptomining Malware - Security Boulevard

19:22 schestowitz-TR2; eating without preparation is not fun and not healthy

19:22 schestowitz-TR2; thanks, yes, the order matters

19:22 schestowitz-TR2; i think using some fuzzy logic we can derive 'categories'

19:22 schestowitz-TR2; atm no archives or site search

19:23 Techrights-sec; np. I know it had been bothering people,

19:23 Techrights-sec; Search can probably be added, though likely with some minor tweaks needed to

19:23 Techrights-sec; the database first.

19:33 schestowitz-TR2; He repeats what the editor of Slashdot pinned there. The Microsofters then repeat him https://securityboulevard.com/2022/09/new-linux-cryptomining-malware/

↺ https://securityboulevard.com/2022/09/new-linux-cryptomining-malware/

19:33 schestowitz-TR2; aka circlejerk

19:33 Techrights-sec; Yep, a FUD cycle.

19:33 Techrights-sec; What owns Slashdot at the moment?

19:35 Techrights-sec; I find only stuff from a few years ago,

19:35 Techrights-sec; https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/slashdot-media-to-merge-with-bizx-llc-creating-a-market-leader-in-b2b-software-technology-and-data-1028780285

↺ https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/slashdot-media-to-merge-with-bizx-llc-creating-a-market-leader-in-b2b-software-technology-and-data-1028780285

19:35 Techrights-sec; perhaps it is still current?

19:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-markets.businessinsider.com | Slashdot Media to Merge with BIZX, LLC, Creating a Market Leader in B2B, Software, Technology, and Data | Markets Insider

19:35 schestowitz-TR2; probably.

19:35 Techrights-sec; https://www.signalhire.com/companies/bizx-llc

↺ https://www.signalhire.com/companies/bizx-llc

19:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-BIZX (now part of Slashdot Media) Overview | SignalHire Company Profile

19:36 schestowitz; "Web Media, Lead Generation, Online Media, Business Listings, Demand Generation, Software Reviews, Online Marketing, Data Analytics, Digital Advertising, Custom Content, Competitive Intelligence, Data Optimization, Prospecting, SaaS, Sales Intelligence, Web Publisher, Digital Media, Internet"

19:37 Techrights-sec; Well, that explains how / why SourceForge died off

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8 PM, September 12

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