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03:12 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> COVID-19 Vaccination in the United Kingdom Stalled (Even Young People Almost Stopped Taking It) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/11/covid19-first-shot/
03:12 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive COVID-19 Vaccination in the United Kingdom Stalled (Even Young People Almost Stopped Taking It)
04:02 schestowitz-TR2; just found another hidden impact of the 3am disconnection (not related to the system crash in any way)
04:02 schestowitz-TR2; the cron job for the gemini capsule never completed, leaving a lock file in taxt
04:02 schestowitz-TR2; so the capsule did not update for 24 hours
04:02 schestowitz-TR2; I noticed the issue moments ago
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05:04 Techrights-sec; Which script left the lock file?
05:05 schestowitz-TR2; I am not sure
05:05 schestowitz-TR2; I actually tried to understand which thing updates the whole capsule every (3 hours?)... as it has not updated the ffront page
05:05 Techrights-sec; checking
05:05 schestowitz-TR2; but it did generate gemini versions of pages from yesterday
05:09 Techrights-sec; slow connection
05:10 schestowitz-TR2; I could stop ipfs and remove tc throttling
05:12 Techrights-sec; /home/gemini/bin/gemini-cron-updater.sh has a trap to remove lock files
05:12 Techrights-sec; so if it was that script, more details are needed. If it was not that
05:12 Techrights-sec; script, then we'd need to know which script.
05:13 schestowitz-TR2; the disconnection here was around 3am local time, iirc
05:13 schestowitz-TR2; iirc, the heavy pages are updated around 3,6,9...
05:13 Techrights-sec; Was it poweroff or network?
05:16 schestowitz-TR2; network
05:16 schestowitz-TR2; and brief
05:16 schestowitz-TR2; very weird
05:16 schestowitz-TR2; as connections were not dropped fully, afaik
05:16 schestowitz-TR2; something was temporarily wrong wih the network and it recovered
05:16 schestowitz-TR2; or maybe that is not related at all
05:16 schestowitz-TR2; all I know is, I need to remove a lock file
05:16 schestowitz-TR2; some pages were last updated 2am 2 days ago
05:16 schestowitz-TR2; no, 1 day ago, 7 hours
05:16 schestowitz-TR2; *27 hours
05:17 Techrights-sec; ok that would leave a lock file somehow, but the trap /should/ in all cases
05:17 Techrights-sec; remove it on the way out.
05:17 Techrights-sec; What was the name of the lock file?
05:17 schestowitz-TR2; gemino--cron-updater.sh
05:19 Techrights-sec; Hmm. That one has the trap calling removal of the temporary files and the
05:19 Techrights-sec; lock file. THere's another old one from aug 4 for show-new-visitors-count.sh
05:19 Techrights-sec; maybe that is blocking things
05:19 schestowitz-TR2; that was around the time we recovered from the dead microsd and moved to usb
05:24 Techrights-sec; I wonder under which circumstances gemini-cron-updater.sh can leave a stray
05:24 Techrights-sec; lock file?
05:25 schestowitz-TR2; maybe I deleted it while it was still running
05:25 Techrights-sec; Could be. Some parts are dreadfully slow.
05:25 schestowitz-TR2; that's pi on USB
05:27 Techrights-sec; It calls several other network-dependent scripts and those can be quite slow.
05:27 Techrights-sec; We did add a timeout of 600 seconds to one of them, just because that part
05:27 Techrights-sec; was too slow and could hang for all practical purposes.
05:27 schestowitz-TR2; back in a few hours after a nap
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07:59 Techrights-sec; ack
08:05 chunky; syn
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10:19 schestowitz-TR2; i got back 2 hours ago
10:19 schestowitz-TR2; thought the cron job at 6am would update the front page and some sub-pages
10:19 schestowitz-TR2; new posts do in fact become gemini pages
10:19 Techrights-sec; checking
10:19 Techrights-sec; ack
10:19 schestowitz-TR2; so some stuff does work
10:19 schestowitz-TR2; also, the pages for irc logs do update
10:19 schestowitz-TR2; the ones I see not updating are the front page and 'feeds'
10:19 schestowitz-TR2; when I say feed I mean daily lumps of posts from the day
10:19 schestowitz-TR2; I think it's most likely due to the network issue, based on the timestamp
10:19 schestowitz-TR2; it knocked the flow off balance
10:19 schestowitz-TR2; maybe even some temporary pages
10:23 Techrights-sec; The script is still running from the cronjob
10:23 Techrights-sec; $ ps -p 17108 -o etime,args
10:23 Techrights-sec; ELAPSED COMMAND
10:23 Techrights-sec; 10:22:19 perl -a -n -e $|=1; # autoflush buffer $d=$F[0];
10:23 Techrights-sec; -- during the night :/
10:24 schestowitz-TR2; aha
10:24 schestowitz-TR2; sorry, am posting daily links atm, trying to not multi-task until it's published
10:24 schestowitz-TR2; brb 10 mins
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10:39 schestowitz-TR2; matey is back to irc btw
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; he has many fans there, so that's goo
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; *good
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; *figos
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10:48 Techrights-sec; ack
10:48 Techrights-sec; sudo /usr/local/sbin/tc-shaper-v2021-Nov.sh
10:48 Techrights-sec; is one of the two lines choking the script
10:48 Techrights-sec; sudo /usr/local/sbin/tc-shaper-v2.sh
10:48 Techrights-sec; is the other
10:48 Techrights-sec; there needs to be two lines in /etc/sudoers to permit those to run without
10:48 Techrights-sec; any added options
10:48 Techrights-sec; %gemini ALL=(root:root) NOPASSWD: /usr/local/sbin/tc-shaper-v2021-Nov.sh ""
10:48 Techrights-sec; %gemini ALL=(root:root: NOPASSWD: /usr/local/sbin/tc-shaper-v2.sh ""
10:48 Techrights-sec; thanks
10:48 Techrights-sec; The second line should say (root:root) rather than (root:root:
10:49 schestowitz-TR2; yes, we lost those changes to sudoers -- i think that's the only thing we lost following the system crash
10:49 schestowitz-TR2; so I can add those two files
10:49 schestowitz-TR2; and then use visudo to add those two lines?
10:49 schestowitz-TR2; after that I will clone the pi again
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10:55 schestowitz; pi@raspberrypi:~/tc $ ls -la /usr/local/sbin/tc-*
10:55 schestowitz; -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2250 Sep 11 10:54 /usr/local/sbin/tc-shaper-v2021-Nov.sh
10:55 schestowitz; -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2250 Sep 11 10:54 /usr/local/sbin/tc-shaper-v2.sh
11:02 schestowitz; # Run tc for Gemini
11:02 schestowitz; %gemini ALL=(root:root) NOPASSWD: /usr/local/sbin/tc-shaper-v2021-Nov.sh ""
11:02 schestowitz; %gemini ALL=(root:root) NOPASSWD: /usr/local/sbin/tc-shaper-v2.sh ""
11:03 schestowitz-TR2; running visudo as root
11:03 schestowitz-TR2; so I can change if I make an error
11:03 schestowitz-TR2; just want you to confirm the bits above
11:03 schestowitz-TR2; have now saved the file yet
11:03 schestowitz-TR2; *not
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11:16 Techrights-sec; Both need to be available to the script via the /etc/sudoers additions above
11:16 schestowitz-TR2; ok, going ehad
11:16 schestowitz-TR2; *ahead
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11:20 schestowitz-TR2; it seems to be working ok now from gemini, but I will stay logged in as root just in case
11:29 Techrights-sec; The main thing is that the syntax is ok, if sudo works in another terminal
11:29 Techrights-sec; then that part is good.
11:31 schestowitz-TR2; i'm going to clone both rianne's pi and ours
11:31 schestowitz-TR2; meanwhile I hope the gemini capsule will sort itself out
11:31 schestowitz-TR2; I knew this bit was missing after the outage/D-R
11:31 schestowitz-TR2; later I will do some more backups of things
11:31 schestowitz-TR2; with rianne's exams aced and out of the way, she says it's 95% in the hands of the solicitors now
11:31 schestowitz-TR2; they only charge 425 pounds for everything, believe it or not!
11:31 Techrights-sec; ack
11:31 Techrights-sec; Congratulations to her on acing the exams
11:31 Techrights-sec; Must be a package price or something
11:34 schestowitz-TR2; they were reasonable before, this time half priced too, so we came back
11:34 schestowitz-TR2; also not far from us, walking distance
11:34 schestowitz-TR2; no more suits who charge 200 pounda an hour for mostly photocopying a bunch of papers
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11:46 Techrights-sec; ack
12:04 schestowitz-TR2; started piclone on rianne's
12:04 schestowitz-TR2; now doing ours
12:04 schestowitz-TR2; by all means it can do everything when it runs
12:04 schestowitz-TR2; but no reboots/crashes/outsages
12:04 schestowitz-TR2; to avoid f*ing up the partitions
12:04 schestowitz-TR2; it also copies all of /home to external disk every morning, but /home isn't everything
12:16 Techrights-sec; ack
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12:41 schestowitz-TR2; running cloning now
12:41 schestowitz-TR2; just added 4 gemini links to TM
12:41 Techrights-sec; ack
12:41 schestowitz-TR2; not too many, average maybe 2 per say, the more relevant stuff
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13:15 schestowitz-TR2; I've just been contacted by the 5th most active tuxmachines submitter
13:15 schestowitz-TR2; he wants to be able to post
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13:24 Techrights-sec; It is not a problem on the technical side. AFAIK
13:31 schestowitz-TR2; thanks, I told him to send along his public key
13:31 schestowitz-TR2; I will check email later on and see what username he asked for
13:31 schestowitz-TR2; I think the goal isn't to maximise number of contributors but quality/relevance
13:31 schestowitz-TR2; based on mitakes made in tm-old -- people that in hindsight didn't deserve an account
13:31 schestowitz-TR2; reddit and twitter (digg in its time) have this flaw -- people just use them to promote their own shit
13:31 schestowitz-TR2; with no real regard to the readers' interests
13:31 schestowitz-TR2; SN wouldn have the same issue
13:31 schestowitz-TR2; the "LINUX" section of Slashdot is like this
13:31 schestowitz-TR2; they miss all the important news
13:31 schestowitz-TR2; and reward those who 'borrow' or 'game' the site
13:31 Techrights-sec; ack
13:40 schestowitz-TR2; they paid for the brand and for the drones who follow the brand
13:40 schestowitz-TR2; irrespectove of who stands behind the brand
13:40 schestowitz-TR2; e.g. Microsoft Dice
13:40 schestowitz-TR2; and now Logan
13:40 schestowitz-TR2; who came to IRC
13:40 schestowitz-TR2; told us it would improve
13:40 schestowitz-TR2; I didn't see improvements
13:40 schestowitz-TR2; because he wanted us to change our wiki after he had bought it
13:40 schestowitz-TR2; LinuxJournal is now owned by him
13:40 schestowitz-TR2; Don't think they posted anything new in over a month
13:40 schestowitz-TR2; at least it's still online afaik
13:40 schestowitz-TR2; PIA did not keep it online
13:40 schestowitz-TR2; I asked Rick F
13:40 schestowitz-TR2; and he told me he had already left PIA
13:40 schestowitz-TR2; I was flattered that Logan and Lee came to our IRC channel due to concern over our views about their stuff
13:40 schestowitz-TR2; because they saw a potential for diplomacy
13:40 schestowitz-TR2; I think both meant well
13:40 schestowitz-TR2; Logan loved FOSS things, inc. SourceForce
13:40 schestowitz-TR2; Lee loved IRC
13:40 schestowitz-TR2; but they didn't know how to handle their "assets"
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13:42 Techrights-sec; ack
13:42 Techrights-sec; Slashdot got sold off several times, each iteration to an even less
13:42 Techrights-sec; appropriate and capable owner.
13:42 Techrights-sec; The brand pretty much died with the first or second sale. The 2014 incident
13:42 Techrights-sec; was basically the final straw for the site and now it is just spamvertisement
13:42 Techrights-sec; pit.
13:42 Techrights-sec; PIA is no longer covering the same topics nor the same goals as before, it
13:42 Techrights-sec; almost looks like they've done a 180 as far as policy.
13:42 Techrights-sec; Rick left a very long time ago.
13:42 Techrights-sec; He got brigaded or something didn't he?
13:42 Techrights-sec; SourceForge was good back in its day.
13:42 Techrights-sec; It was imploded, almost on purpose, a good while ago.
13:44 schestowitz-TR2; don't know what drove rickv into mental breakdown
13:44 schestowitz-TR2; he wrote a blog post about what happened afteyrwards, not what had caused it
13:44 schestowitz-TR2; there must have been a trigger event
13:44 schestowitz-TR2; sourceforge (typo above) was where I put my projects 20 years ago
13:44 schestowitz-TR2; ans freshmeat
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13:46 Techrights-sec; IIRC FreshMeat was for binaries and only a little about source code. I might
13:46 Techrights-sec; have used it a small handful of times when it was brand new but nothing since
13:46 Techrights-sec; then.
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13:49 schestowitz-TR2; will TR capsule ba abck to front page updates without human intervention?
13:49 Techrights-sec; I hope so
13:49 Techrights-sec; checking
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13:50 Techrights-sec; by the way something is really slow on that machine, is IPFS smashing the
13:50 Techrights-sec; IO on the USB stick?
13:52 schestowitz-TR2; even without ipfs,
13:52 schestowitz-TR2; the very fact it runs on usb makes it very slow
13:53 schestowitz-TR2; same with rianne's different usb brand, too
13:53 Techrights-sec; The shell seems responsive except when something has to happen on the disk.
13:53 Techrights-sec; Interesting. I have one here and don't get that slowness ever.
13:53 schestowitz-TR2; raspiOS?
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13:55 Techrights-sec; Yes
13:55 Techrights-sec; Though the spare usually runs Devuan
13:55 Techrights-sec; the main one still runs Raspberry Pi OS
15:24 schestowitz-TR2; rianne's clone is completed
15:24 schestowitz-TR2; she now runs the system from it, i.e. from microsd
15:24 schestowitz-TR2; next weekend we'll clone in reverse
15:24 schestowitz-TR2; so that usb is the backup
15:24 schestowitz-TR2; for the ipfs machine I'd rather than on USB
15:24 Techrights-sec; ack
15:24 schestowitz-TR2; too much i/o
15:24 schestowitz-TR2; *stay on USB
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15:57 schestowitz-TR2; famous last words
16:11 Techrights-sec; well that took a long while to reboot
16:12 schestowitz-TR2; rianne's pi used to take about 5 mins to start
16:12 schestowitz-TR2; now it's a lot faster
16:12 schestowitz-TR2; by virtue of not booting from USB
16:12 schestowitz-TR2; Debian 11/raspiOS
16:13 Techrights-sec; I think a lot depends on what was updated
16:15 schestowitz-TR2; yuo give, you take
16:15 schestowitz-TR2; you win, you lose
16:15 schestowitz-TR2; today we had some of both
16:15 schestowitz-TR2; I'm waiting for the second clone to complete
16:15 schestowitz-TR2; than will back up tm-new and tr-new to some extent
16:15 schestowitz-TR2; the TR capsule's front page and feeds are still out of date,
16:15 schestowitz-TR2; but the latest stories do get added
16:17 Techrights-sec; ack
16:17 Techrights-sec; Strange, the updater script runs (and seems to be working at the moment)
16:17 Techrights-sec; However, there seem to be some connectivity issues from/to that machine
16:17 Techrights-sec; so perhaps it is tripping up the clumsy and inefficient scraping bot
16:25 Techrights-sec; Also serious I/O problems:
16:25 Techrights-sec; $ time ls -lh /tmp/lockfile-*
16:25 Techrights-sec; -rw-r--r-- 1 gemini gemini 0 Sep 11 16:06 /tmp/lockfile-gemini-cron-updater.sh
16:25 Techrights-sec; real 0m5.082s
16:25 Techrights-sec; What does 'iotop' report?
16:25 Techrights-sec; 'htop' shows ipfs daemon hogging a lot of CPU
16:25 Techrights-sec; That should be niced into oblivion.
16:26 schestowitz-TR2; I think it is already niced, but the underlying peril is USB
16:26 schestowitz-TR2; even with ipfs turned off it won't be a fast system
16:26 schestowitz-TR2; remember it is also cloning the whole OS at the moment
16:26 schestowitz-TR2; which adds to the strain
16:26 schestowitz-TR2; and even causes habitual gemini timeouts
16:26 schestowitz-TR2; backup will finish in 1-2 hours
16:29 Techrights-sec; ack
16:29 Techrights-sec; However it seems most unusually slow even for a RPi
16:29 Techrights-sec; Even a RPi 0 system is faster than that
16:29 Techrights-sec; I have one running from USB at the moment and it is quite snappy
16:29 schestowitz-TR2; that's what always happened when rianne's 400 or my 4 ran on USB
16:29 schestowitz-TR2; even on the blue port
16:29 schestowitz-TR2; even different makes of usb sticks
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17:21 schestowitz-TR2; tr-new report:
17:21 schestowitz-TR2; 6 useer accounts gunzipped
17:21 schestowitz-TR2; biggest:
17:21 schestowitz-TR2; ipfs: 7.1gb
17:21 schestowitz-TR2; links 1.8gb
17:21 Techrights-sec; ack
17:21 schestowitz-TR2; we have up to date local copies of the big ones
17:21 schestowitz-TR2; I will copy across the other 4
17:22 schestowitz-TR2; total compression time about 4 minutes
17:22 schestowitz-TR2; I've not scripted it yet, will run it manually one more time before scripting that
17:28 schestowitz-TR2; done, now I can sleep better
17:28 schestowitz-TR2; I cannot offhand remember where the ipfs config files reside
17:28 schestowitz-TR2; but maybe that's for a later date
17:31 schestowitz-TR2; ---
17:31 schestowitz-TR2; btw, sometimes I realise:
17:31 schestowitz-TR2; back in the days the media was flooded with all sorts of nthings
17:31 schestowitz-TR2; inc. microsoft spam
17:31 schestowitz-TR2; with the demise of the media
17:31 schestowitz-TR2; even that microsoft spam is becoming more scarce
17:31 schestowitz-TR2; so anything we can do to propel the visibility of bsd and gnu/linux counts more in RELATIVE terms
17:31 schestowitz-TR2; the terrain has changed porofoundlky
17:46 psydroid3; microsoft shilling has also become scarce
17:47 psydroid3; no monetary incentive -> no more shilling
17:47 psydroid3; now it's more like damning with faint praise
17:48 psydroid3; "can't play all games with Wine/Proton, so you'd better install Windows"
17:48 psydroid3; still trying to insert the malware into the conversation like some child with an attention deficit
18:08 Techrights-sec; Ok
18:08 schestowitz-TR2; yeah
18:09 schestowitz-TR2; sounds like a banal observation
18:09 schestowitz-TR2; from me
18:09 schestowitz-TR2; but I remember 10-15 years ago
18:16 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> Slashdot's editor posting SHIT again. Missing or skipping all the important "Linux" news, but now that AT&T blames "Linux" for malware (without even specifying how it gets there) it is seen as important https://it.slashdot.org/story/22/09/11/0314234/powerful-new-linux-malware-shikitega-uses-unusual-multi-stage-stealth
18:16 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-it.slashdot.org | Powerful New Linux Malware Shikitega Uses Unusual Multi-Stage Stealth - Slashdot
18:29 Techrights-sec; I've lost track of what owns Slashdot these days and their marketing agreements
18:29 Techrights-sec; with M$
18:29 Techrights-sec; htop finally started, I had gotten distracted, it shows that the IPFS daemon
18:29 Techrights-sec; is not yet niced
18:31 schestowitz-TR2; ipfs is a daemon that spawns processes
18:31 schestowitz-TR2; I think something there was niced, but to no effect
18:31 schestowitz-TR2; anyway, let the backup finish first
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21:01 schestowitz; removed usb stick from pi, all went well; gemini front page update will be the next challenge, I'm not sure where to look to be honest
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21:19 schestowitz-TR2; 9:20PM: it's sorted out!!!
21:19 schestowitz-TR2; At least now it's OK, at long last
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