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beginning of new day, August 11

00:04 schestowitz-TR; Contact tracing was a scam or at best a mass surveillance ploy. 'Linux' Foundation PROMOTED this fraud. https://itwire.com/government-tech-policy/covidsafe-app-killed-off,-helped-detect-2-cases-at-$10m-a-pop.html

↺ https://itwire.com/government-tech-policy/covidsafe-app-killed-off,-helped-detect-2-cases-at-$10m-a-pop.html

00:04 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-iTWire - COVIDSafe app killed off, helped detect 2 cases at $10m a pop

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2 AM, August 11

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3 AM, August 11

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7 AM, August 11

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8 AM, August 11

08:10 Techrights-sec; maybe for the file names in Gemini?

08:10 Techrights-sec; https://metacpan.org/pod/Unicode::Diacritic::Strip

↺ https://metacpan.org/pod/Unicode::Diacritic::Strip

08:10 Techrights-sec; However, it would be useful to first know whether Gemini is supposed to support

08:10 Techrights-sec; unicode file names in the URLs or whether the failure to do so is merely a bug

08:10 Techrights-sec; which has spread

08:10 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Unicode::Diacritic::Strip - metacpan.org

08:11 schestowitz-TR; gm

08:11 schestowitz-TR; catchhing up

08:11 schestowitz-TR; had good sleeping, knowing msft is coming apart

08:11 schestowitz-TR; daemonfc did a good post

08:11 schestowitz-TR; hmmm... looks like apache on techrights needs a restart again, it has not been so reliable lately

08:12 Techrights-sec; gm

08:12 Techrights-sec; m$ has been falling apart for decades, the decline has not affected its power

08:12 Techrights-sec; as a polictical movement or cult

08:12 Techrights-sec; oh. i misread that and 'fixed' tm

08:12 Techrights-sec; it's not been a long while fortunately

08:12 Techrights-sec; ok

08:12 Techrights-sec; restarted httpd

08:12 Techrights-sec; hmm still not responding

08:15 schestowitz-TR; are we both restrating it at the same time?

08:16 schestowitz-TR; there were two issues with apache 2 nights ago, but I was awake

08:16 schestowitz-TR; it is nto a db issue, I cannot access static pages either

08:16 schestowitz-TR; restarting apache gain

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08:16 Techrights-sec; no I just did once a few minutes ago and have only watched since then

08:16 Techrights-sec; it seems to be hanging and then responding in bursts

08:16 Techrights-sec; though it seems to only be responding to attacks and not to legitimate queries

08:16 Techrights-sec; does the db need attention?

08:16 Techrights-sec; 503 tends to be back-end

08:16 Techrights-sec; ok

08:26 Techrights-sec; [Thu Aug 11 07:20:02.411889 2022] [proxy_fcgi:error] [pid 26951:tid 140473213613824] (70007)The timeout specified has expired: [client 23.161.112.116:39186] AH01075: Err

08:26 Techrights-sec; or dispatching request to :

08:28 schestowitz-TR; ok, I gave php a kick as well

08:28 schestowitz-TR; for the time being it runs OK

08:28 schestowitz-TR; let's keep an eye on it for the next few hours

08:28 schestowitz-TR; as we have a lot of rebuttals to the media frenzy created by Microsoft moles

08:28 Techrights-sec; ack

08:28 Techrights-sec; ack

08:28 schestowitz-TR; I could show you some LAUGHABLE headlines

08:28 schestowitz-TR; they clearly cover up

08:28 schestowitz-TR; at first we didn't even know layoffs were happening

08:28 schestowitz-TR; then we thought it was just "savings"

08:28 schestowitz-TR; lots of spin

08:28 schestowitz-TR; smoke and mirrors

08:28 schestowitz-TR; I've put php monitoring in front of me so I can detect issues fast

08:35 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Lots of bait and decoy in the media about Microsoft layoffs. Even Microsoft insiders are being misled about it.

08:36 Techrights-sec; ack

08:36 Techrights-sec; misled and at the same time participating in misleading the world

08:39 schestowitz-TR; back on topics now, with fire put out (it seems stable now)

08:39 schestowitz-TR; you asked about utf-x re gemini

08:39 schestowitz-TR; I don't know the subject, esp. wrt perl, too well

08:39 schestowitz-TR; you can judge this better than me

08:39 schestowitz-TR; I know steps we'd need to take when moving over to the new site

08:39 schestowitz-TR; the old site will still be there but with many redirections

08:39 schestowitz-TR; and no more new pages

08:39 schestowitz-TR; Gulag has already begun indexing pages in tm-new

08:39 schestowitz-TR; and having identical pages in both can be bad

08:39 schestowitz-TR; and penalise the latter

08:39 schestowitz-TR; so I hope we can move it all over this month

08:40 Techrights-sec; yes

08:40 Techrights-sec; it's not a perl matter but one of the specification and how it handles

08:40 Techrights-sec; or fails to handle URLs. A work-around is easy to implement but very

08:40 Techrights-sec; annoying and half unnecessary. HTTP clients all handle UTF-8 within URLs no

08:40 Techrights-sec; problem

08:42 schestowitz-TR; you would think a client called lagrange can deal with french/italisn, but it's made by a finn, so I wonder if nordic accents it can deal with too

08:42 schestowitz-TR; some domains in geminispace have symbols and emojis in them

08:42 schestowitz-TR; the domain name themselves

08:43 Techrights-sec; I'm wondering if they are not re-using the same defective library

08:43 Techrights-sec; domains are a different component of the URL. We're only affected by

08:43 Techrights-sec; problems in how the clients process paths, not 'scheme' or 'host' or 'port'

08:43 Techrights-sec; or 'query string', just the 'path'

08:48 schestowitz-TR; ack

08:48 schestowitz-TR; I don't know this place anymore, 34 degrees for 4 days in a ro

08:48 schestowitz-TR; *row

08:48 schestowitz-TR; don't expect videos, I don't have a/c

08:48 schestowitz-TR; I'm on shift 5:30 tonight, but took two days off 1.5 weeks from now

08:48 schestowitz-TR; who needs flying to a sunny holiday?

08:48 schestowitz-TR; it feels like spain in summer here

08:48 schestowitz-TR; and some stupid people bathe in a bikini in totally inadequate places

08:48 schestowitz-TR; rianne says they expose themselves to hundrerds of perverts

08:49 Techrights-sec; ack

08:49 Techrights-sec; ack

08:49 Techrights-sec; probably

08:55 Techrights-sec; yes, flying to a hot destination is unnecessary any more

08:55 Techrights-sec; flying not only releases unnecessary carbon, that carbon is fossil carbon

08:55 Techrights-sec; and not from the live cycle involving today's animals and plants

08:55 Techrights-sec; so eating vegetarian yet flying jets away to vacation or, worse, business trips

08:55 Techrights-sec; is an extreme form of being hypocritical. Those aren't either the same scale

08:55 Techrights-sec; or even the same carbon cycle.

08:56 schestowitz-TR; maybe they can be reminded what FOSSIL fuel is made of

08:56 schestowitz-TR; it's not just flora but also fauna

08:56 schestowitz-TR; "STOP BURNING ANIMALS"!!!

08:57 Techrights-sec; perhaps, but people don't want to think because it's inconvenient to think

08:57 Techrights-sec; back to the Gemini URLs, do you have any idea of where or whom to ask?

08:57 Techrights-sec; I'm really disappointed that the mailing list was dismantled.

08:58 Techrights-sec; Both lagrange and amfora are f-ing around in M$ GitHub so it will be very hard

08:58 Techrights-sec; to track down the contact information for the developers.

08:59 schestowitz-TR; lagrange uses gitea too (originally)

08:59 schestowitz-TR; and I think Jukka's email is public

08:59 schestowitz-TR; though he is busy with family stuff

08:59 Techrights-sec; Same for kristall.

08:59 Techrights-sec; Yes, he is /very/ overloaded atm afaik


9 AM, August 11

09:02 schestowitz-TR; I wait for Microsoft to do what GitLab did

09:02 schestowitz-TR; and rattle the shackles a litt

09:02 schestowitz-TR; the slaves will never forgot what gitlab was about to do

09:02 schestowitz-TR; *forgot, #little

09:02 schestowitz-TR; >forget

09:03 Techrights-sec; ack

09:13 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> AuraGem Ask Activity gemini://auragem.spac<techrights-news> AuraGem Ask Activity gemini://auragem.space/~ask/dailydigest/2022-08-11e/~ask/dailydigest/2022-08-11

↺ gemini://auragem.spac<techrights-news>

↺ gemini://auragem.space/~ask/dailydigest/2022-08-11e/~ask/dailydigest/2022-08-11

09:19 Techrights-sec; ack

09:27 schestowitz-TR; the manchester mirror

09:27 schestowitz-TR; never heard of it before

09:27 schestowitz-TR; + "themanchestermirror.com" => "The Manchester Mirror",

09:32 Techrights-sec; Manchester, Michigan

09:32 Techrights-sec; https://vil-manchester.org/

↺ https://vil-manchester.org/

09:32 Techrights-sec; They still have a paper or at least the appearance of one and are along

09:32 Techrights-sec; the route that toxic spill will spread

09:32 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-vil-manchester.org | Village of Manchester Michigan

09:33 schestowitz-TR; re auragem, TONS of very good work from them/him/her

09:33 schestowitz-TR; like proxies and agteways

09:33 schestowitz-TR; it makes sense to have gemini forums in gemtext

09:34 schestowitz-TR; not email or html archives (mailman)

09:34 schestowitz-TR; SpreadChromium(TM)

09:34 Techrights-sec; ack

09:34 Techrights-sec; or at least somewhat near the route; like most towns they may have a lead pipe

09:34 Techrights-sec; problem

09:34 Techrights-sec; one of the articles had a good map of the affected watershed

09:34 schestowitz-TR; 9/11: 3k affected

09:34 schestowitz-TR; this: 3m affected

09:34 schestowitz-TR; no big deal

09:34 schestowitz-TR; it was just an "accident" anyway

09:37 Techrights-sec; yep

09:44 Techrights-sec; yeah if they call the dumping of the toxic waste an accident then it's all good

09:44 Techrights-sec; :(

09:46 schestowitz-TR; microsoft 'accidentally' did not patch the flaw in 2019

09:46 schestowitz-TR; so that's OK

09:46 schestowitz-TR; after all, they own the media

09:46 schestowitz-TR; the level of media spin is alarming

09:46 schestowitz-TR; if you assumed media's role was to get the truth out

09:46 schestowitz-TR; notm compensate by repeating lies en masse

09:47 Techrights-sec; It's annoying that the media has taken to calling long-standing, well-known

09:47 Techrights-sec; bugs as zero-days when they clearly are anything but that

09:47 Techrights-sec; the media is complicit in downplaying m$ inept passivity, perhaps because

09:47 Techrights-sec; of the important role that bug doors have in agency surveillance

09:51 schestowitz-TR; todo: find ANY new info on msft 1) layoffs 2) shut down units 3) how they spin that

09:51 schestowitz-TR; the last thing they want atm is people repeating facts again and again

09:51 schestowitz-TR; after they drowned out the signal

09:51 schestowitz-TR; you recently noted that system1 (spying, startpage) places our wiki in page 1

09:58 Techrights-sec; ack

09:58 Techrights-sec; https://techcrunch.com/2022/08/09/microsoft-makes-further-cuts-focused-on-consumer-rd-group/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuc3RhcnRwYWdlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer

↺ https://techcrunch.com/2022/08/09/microsoft-makes-further-cuts-focused-on-consumer-rd-group/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuc3RhcnRwYWdlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer

09:58 Techrights-sec; _sig=AQAAAIMNIBsA9t27fnNmhzNr14RTPqektFfBjWZ93Fs3uhF2J3JfvNJBAjFqI-iVIkf3M0eiargMH3yjnndd8dkw9ABsFYwupCnik0S1SgBFTZ7u-La6NJhtnzqsi1Mzm4WCaO2Gdhi1o6I8ceQ0f2li5IT_ldjOKprh

09:58 Techrights-sec; ^ignore

09:58 Techrights-sec; https://techcrunch.com/2022/08/09/microsoft-makes-further-cuts-focused-on-consumer-rd-group/

↺ https://techcrunch.com/2022/08/09/microsoft-makes-further-cuts-focused-on-consumer-rd-group/

09:58 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Microsoft makes further cuts focused on consumer R&D group TechCrunch

09:58 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Microsoft makes further cuts focused on consumer R&D group TechCrunch

09:58 Techrights-sec; https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/microsoft-lays-off-more-workers-this-time-from-consumer-r-d-team-report-122081000652_1.html

↺ https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/microsoft-lays-off-more-workers-this-time-from-consumer-r-d-team-report-122081000652_1.html

09:58 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.business-standard.com | Microsoft lays off more workers, this time from consumer R&D team: Report | Business Standard News

09:58 Techrights-sec; https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-layoffs-modern-life-experiences-mileiq-2022-8

↺ https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-layoffs-modern-life-experiences-mileiq-2022-8

09:58 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.businessinsider.com | Microsoft Lays Off a Team Dedicated to Reinventing Its Consumer Appeal

09:58 Techrights-sec; https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-brings-hard-news-of-layoff-to-mlx-team-that-works-on-consumer-products/

↺ https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-brings-hard-news-of-layoff-to-mlx-team-that-works-on-consumer-products/

09:58 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.neowin.net | Microsoft brings "hard news" of layoff to MLX team that works on consumer products - Neowin

09:58 Techrights-sec; https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/10/23299499/microsoft-layoffs-modern-life-win-back-consumers-team

↺ https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/10/23299499/microsoft-layoffs-modern-life-win-back-consumers-team

09:58 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theverge.com | Microsoft reportedly lays off team focused on winning back consumers - The Verge

09:58 Techrights-sec; however those are probably just the tip of the iceberg

09:58 Techrights-sec; yes

09:58 Techrights-sec; and throws out a lot of chaff

09:58 Techrights-sec; recall the 'permatemp' situation years ago, used to hide layoffs then too

09:58 schestowitz-TR; I saw it and included it in the screenshots

09:58 schestowitz-TR; AOL

09:58 schestowitz-TR; and nasty JS

09:58 schestowitz-TR; they are selective in what they cover

09:59 schestowitz-TR; microsloth keeps its cards close to its chest


10 AM, August 11

10:04 schestowitz-TR; what bothers me a lot are the authors' names

10:04 schestowitz-TR; I know those names

10:04 schestowitz-TR; they monopolise or at least dominate coverage on the topic, without disclosingconflic of interest

10:04 schestowitz-TR; so you end up THINKING you know what bad news Microsoft has

10:04 schestowitz-TR; when in reality it's ten times worse

10:04 schestowitz-TR; I did many posts about it last night

10:05 Techrights-sec; yes they make minor concessions in areas which M$ uses to distract from

10:05 Techrights-sec; what's really going on there

10:05 Techrights-sec; it's all about misdirection; they act like that going back decades; any time

10:05 Techrights-sec; there is a major or minor press release, you have to ask what are they trying

10:05 Techrights-sec; to distract from

10:10 Techrights-sec; ack

10:14 schestowitz-TR; the mentioned articles recycle and rehash many of the same

10:14 schestowitz-TR; it's sad when you want to know mor eand don't know where to go to

10:14 schestowitz-TR; to paragraphase groklaw

10:14 schestowitz-TR; but in recent years I noticed that when there's major "general" news

10:14 schestowitz-TR; and I want to know what's REALLY happening

10:14 schestowitz-TR; I can think of not a single site I can open

10:14 schestowitz-TR; and trust what it says

10:14 schestowitz-TR; so many sites, such bad quality

10:14 schestowitz-TR; re general Linux news sites, there's a similar problem

10:14 schestowitz-TR; on pretty much every single topic

10:14 schestowitz-TR; a cynic cannot find any article one can trustm anywhere..

10:14 schestowitz-TR; too many compromised orgs

10:14 schestowitz-TR; or good sites that are no longer active, barely active, and cover a small subset of topics

10:15 Techrights-sec; ack

10:19 schestowitz-TR; part of this suspicion if the assumption the sole remainign business model is the bias

10:19 schestowitz-TR; but sadly I cannot give you recent examples as I forgot

10:19 schestowitz-TR; but I dread landing on a page with misinformation in it

10:19 schestowitz-TR; I'd rather know nothing than be told a lie

10:19 schestowitz-TR; and that's just how I feel on the WWW these days

10:19 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Senior editor at PCWorld (IDG) is a Microsoft mole, Yee. Infiltrated media, just as Microsoft boaster.

10:20 schestowitz-TR; WW1 -> WW2 -> WWW

10:25 Techrights-sec; WWW->WWIII

10:25 Techrights-sec; the disinformation and digital control fight there has been going on for some

10:25 Techrights-sec; year already

10:26 schestowitz-TR; "evanglism is war"

10:27 Techrights-sec; ack

10:51 schestowitz-TR; drafgt

10:51 schestowitz-TR; the goal is to bring up or put ion context the layoffs and uefi

10:52 Techrights-sec; checking

10:52 Techrights-sec; yes, then the layoffs ought to be at least mentioned; also didn't Christian E

10:52 Techrights-sec; once calculate that M$ would lose its main money maker, the monopoly rents,

10:52 Techrights-sec; once it's desktop market share dropped below something in the mid 80s percent?

10:52 Techrights-sec; Another point to drive home is that M$ is either an also-ran or no-show in

10:52 Techrights-sec; servers, supercomputers, embedded system, mobile devices, and anything else

10:52 Techrights-sec; besides desktops

10:52 Techrights-sec; So this decline in client-side markets is the *entirity* of M$ real business,

10:52 Techrights-sec; regardless of however much they might make from buying and selling (their own)

10:52 Techrights-sec; stock

10:55 schestowitz-TR; I need to verify this, but Microsoft "consultants" conned many employees into putting their savings in Microsoft shares ("investment")

10:55 schestowitz-TR; so they even lose their salaries now

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10:57 schestowitz-TR; another point (made in irc last night): when we went to the large chain here of computers and electronics

10:57 schestowitz-TR; the very large shop was mostly empty

10:57 schestowitz-TR; not a single person looking at 'Windows' laptops

10:57 schestowitz-TR; that might also explain the anguish of Intel

10:57 schestowitz-TR; this was yesterday

10:57 schestowitz-TR; people look for essentials


11 AM, August 11

11:06 Techrights-sec; well, for perhaps 5 or more years the laptops themselves and the laptop section

11:06 Techrights-sec; they are in make *zero* mention of Windows. It has become that much of a

11:06 Techrights-sec; liability

11:14 schestowitz-TR; i never thought of it like that, but now that you mention it...

11:14 schestowitz-TR; they should call it the "brfoken windows" section

11:14 schestowitz-TR; that sells a lot in AV"premiums", too

11:17 Techrights-sec; they also sell, at a markup, "AV" and "Office", so there are several perverse

11:17 Techrights-sec; incentives to continue to sell M$ Windows, especially since the computers

11:17 Techrights-sec; "stop working" rather soon or at least "slow down" due to bloat *and* malware

11:17 Techrights-sec; thus driving premature new purchases

11:17 Techrights-sec; There was a time about 20 years ago when insurance companies were starting to

11:17 Techrights-sec; raise the costs of premiums for NT compared to real operating systems,

11:17 Techrights-sec; especially GNU/Linux. However, no idea what became of that. M$ shat bricks overthat. But for the insurance companies it was only about money.

11:17 schestowitz-TR; "brfoken windows"

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11:48 Techrights-sec; Here is the context for any assertions that M$ generates jobs:

11:48 Techrights-sec; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window

↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window

11:48 Techrights-sec; tldr; it's a false assertion

11:48 Techrights-sec; http://bastiat.org/en/twisatwins.html#SECTION_G002

↺ http://bastiat.org/en/twisatwins.html#SECTION_G002

11:48 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Parable of the broken window - Wikipedia

11:48 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-bastiat.org | That Which is Seen, and That Which is Not Seen; by Frederic Bastiat


noon, August 11

12:09 schestowitz-TR; PR PaRRots are writing from ther same scripts

12:09 schestowitz-TR; probably briefed by Shaw and others

12:09 schestowitz-TR; some "hey hi" could detect the replicated sentences and yield just NEw info

12:09 schestowitz-TR; lost or drowned out

12:21 schestowitz-TR; a LOT of cooking done here today

12:21 schestowitz-TR; low-cost raw material/foods

12:21 schestowitz-TR; too much even

12:21 schestowitz-TR; at the store with the PCs/electronics we checked the price of a second freeer

12:21 schestowitz-TR; and took into account operational costs, notably power

12:21 schestowitz-TR; before the pandemic, maybe we could justify that

12:21 schestowitz-TR; and seeing that it's getting hard to find the discounts

12:21 schestowitz-TR; it seems now like an unattractive proposition

12:21 schestowitz-TR; I wonder if rolling outages (e.g. Switzerland Finaland) start at some pont

12:21 schestowitz-TR; whether duration will take into account

12:21 schestowitz-TR; food freshness

12:21 schestowitz-TR; more importantly though, it won't lower energy use

12:21 schestowitz-TR; people just delay and later do what they planned to do anyway

12:21 schestowitz-TR; freezer later work harder, for longer, putting at risk their lifetime

12:21 schestowitz-TR; so that can end up generating not just wasted food but also appliances going to waste sooner

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12:23 schestowitz-TR; similarly, if you can hosepipes, people will find workaround, such as filling buckets before the ban, worsening the situation

12:23 schestowitz-TR; adkin to panic buying and food shortages, human nature and survival skills deny overpopulation mitigation staretgies

12:23 schestowitz-TR; *defy

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12:25 Techrights-sec; yep it's just mostly about appearances

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12:30 schestowitz-TR; outages=sabotage

12:30 schestowitz-TR; bans= optics

12:30 schestowitz-TR; people are creative

12:30 schestowitz-TR; and getting each home to buy a generator worsens things

12:30 schestowitz-TR; what fucking generators? DIESEL? Talk about bring air pollution to one's own home and also inefficiencies

12:30 schestowitz-TR; like people buying fossil fuel to burn for power to keep online, to keep food cold etc.

12:30 schestowitz-TR; What a fucking dumb proposal

12:30 schestowitz-TR; condoms are better

12:32 Techrights-sec; some idiot got comment published in the online newspaper, which they accepted,

12:32 Techrights-sec; and reprinted, saying how to "save" by charging the smartphone in the car :/

12:32 Techrights-sec; Not only is that more expensive it releases fossil carbon

12:32 schestowitz-TR; cars burn FAR more energy than what homes use

12:32 schestowitz-TR; like bulbs

12:32 schestowitz-TR; more so planes

12:32 schestowitz-TR; ban THOSE

12:32 schestowitz-TR; or limit their use/purchasing

12:32 schestowitz-TR; make better public transport

12:33 Techrights-sec; yep

12:33 Techrights-sec; fwiw since this mornings commmit the Gemini URLs and the HTTP URLs no longer

12:33 Techrights-sec; match up exactly in all cases. I hope it is just a temporary measure and

12:33 Techrights-sec; it turns out that the clients have been misinterpreting the URLs; it does not

12:33 Techrights-sec; make sense that they shoul block UTF8 in the path; these days even the host name

12:33 Techrights-sec; can be UTF-8

12:35 schestowitz-TR; for old urls it might be ok

12:35 schestowitz-TR; it might break an assumption I make about how to generate the gemini url, based on xml feed in https

12:35 schestowitz-TR; another option is, avoid special chars in headlines

12:35 schestowitz-TR; if possible

12:36 Techrights-sec; The URLs for the XHTML pages can be mutilated in the same manner so as to ensure

12:36 Techrights-sec; synchronization. Should that be done?

12:36 schestowitz-TR; yes, falkon too struggles with some urls that libreworld/ff can cope with

12:36 schestowitz-TR; but hopefully change only applicable to future urls

12:36 schestowitz-TR; to avoid 404s

12:38 Techrights-sec; ok,

12:38 Techrights-sec; 404s are just fine until the site goes into production, we might have to

12:38 Techrights-sec; change the whole URL path (or not) by that time, probably not though

12:39 schestowitz-TR; i thinkwe cna keep the same url scheme and add more sections to make the site more useful

12:39 schestowitz-TR; drupal was too limiting

12:39 schestowitz-TR; so the front page can be more "spicy" with more useful stuff for NEW visitors, then there's the news section as part of it

12:40 schestowitz-TR; like techrights with The Four Latest Stories

12:40 Techrights-sec; yes, the more generic things are the less they fit

12:48 Techrights-sec; when the site does go into production the old domain news.tuxmachines.org can

12:48 Techrights-sec; redirect all /n/ URLs to the main page of the formal domain tuxmachines.org

12:51 schestowitz-TR; tghe existing domain stayed in restricted, read-only mode

12:51 schestowitz-TR; as there is a lot of stuff there like distro reviews

12:51 schestowitz-TR; and historical archives

12:51 schestowitz-TR; we don't want to do what groklaw did..

12:51 schestowitz-TR; groklow likely looked for way to lower bills for ibm/ibiblio

12:51 schestowitz-TR; by doing so they also sabotaged a lot of hard-worked-for work

12:51 schestowitz-TR; without any consultation with those who left a lot of comments, Daily News Picks etc.

12:53 Techrights-sec; right but the alpha site is a throwaway

12:53 Techrights-sec; it exists to hammer out bugs and polish details

12:58 schestowitz-TR; no need to throw it away

12:58 schestowitz-TR; it is robust enough

12:58 schestowitz-TR; just need to set up backup routine for its DB an the files

12:58 schestowitz-TR; one option is, we can redirect the rss feed at one pointbut it can confuse some people

12:58 schestowitz-TR; there will be about 2000 nodes that need migrating from old to new

12:58 schestowitz-TR; I make sure I edit nothing older than these

12:58 schestowitz-TR; as the intention is to revert back to an old snapshot of old after that

12:58 schestowitz-TR; a more consistent DB state

12:58 schestowitz-TR; after we do all this we can start working on TR migration


1 PM, August 11

13:01 Techrights-sec; ack

13:01 schestowitz-TR; I like how TM is now, it looks like a newspaper and it's a no-bullshit, no-bloat, quick to load access to latest news

13:01 schestowitz-TR; drupal is to sealife what an aquiarrium is

13:01 schestowitz-TR; and that put many limitations

13:01 schestowitz-TR; no gemini, no push notifications, no management through git

13:01 schestowitz-TR; drush exists, but it's not the same

13:03 Techrights-sec; ack

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13:11 schestowitz-TR; poor analogy, but I thought of it while feeding the wish

13:11 schestowitz-TR; letter to the editor: the idiot who shink burening engine fuel to charge a "smart" phone (might as well just use old Nokia phone) might need discover living in your

13:11 schestowitz-TR; own cars can save all the costs associated with home ownwership

13:11 schestowitz-TR; [cue analogy of clown computing as "cost saver"... like using public toilets exclusively... even in the middle of the night... saves you water and paper)

13:11 schestowitz-TR; sorry, many typos above

13:11 schestowitz-TR; "we don't need shower and toilets at home" "we don't need any hardware for our business, we can lease"

13:11 schestowitz-TR; BTW, the gym we went to quit owning the equipment in it

13:11 schestowitz-TR; now they just RENT it all from a company with servicing as part of the contract

13:11 schestowitz-TR; gmy-eqipment-as-a-service

13:15 Techrights-sec; renting like that sounds like they don't plan to stay in business long

13:15 Techrights-sec; equipment is the core of such a facility

13:17 schestowitz-TR; they already rebranded as "the spa" in 2016

13:17 schestowitz-TR; and they turning the squash court into the gym, in effect taking away other facilities like pingpong, exercise flood, aquash/racketball

13:17 schestowitz-TR; the price wasn't too bad, but it's not safe there

13:17 schestowitz-TR; for reasons I explained beofre

13:17 schestowitz-TR; overnight I sent you some links to my blog

13:19 Techrights-sec; getting rid of the equipment is a big step towards liquidation of the whole

13:19 Techrights-sec; business

13:19 Techrights-sec; ok checking

13:20 Techrights-sec; it's (intentionally) difficult to keep track of the transmission rates

13:20 Techrights-sec; and the mortality rates because the responsible agencies have taken to

13:20 Techrights-sec; hiding or delaying the data

13:20 Techrights-sec; publication

13:21 schestowitz-TR; they don't even compre apples and apples anymore

13:21 schestowitz-TR; so whatever numbers they do publish actually embellish the situation

13:21 schestowitz-TR; but many people fogot that

13:22 Techrights-sec; ack

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15:43 Techrights-sec; torrent ratios: peppermint devuan 6.5; linux mint 20.3 cinnamon 2.3;

15:43 Techrights-sec; linux mint 20.3 mate 1.8; linux mint 21 cinnamon 0.9; etc

15:43 Techrights-sec; not statiticically significant anecdote

15:43 Techrights-sec; ^statistically

15:53 schestowitz-TR; Masks - the last bastion of privacy gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-08-11.masks.gmi "An interesting side-effect of wearing a mask, one not talked about (or at least not to me) is that if you wear a mask, you are not as easily tracked by the surveillance state."

↺ gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-08-11.masks.gmi

15:55 schestowitz-TR; we bought a lot of disposable maska and sanitiser yesterdat

15:55 schestowitz-TR; we also have lots of masks that are not disposable

15:55 schestowitz-TR; the hope if to mask for the next 5 years

15:55 schestowitz-TR; sometimes I had sunglasses and hat

15:55 schestowitz-TR; nobody complains

15:55 Techrights-sec; ack

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4 PM, August 11

16:01 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "Ubers entire model has been about breakingif not smashinglabor law (and worker power) through systematic misclassification." https://scheerpost.com/2022/08/10/sleeping-at-the-wheel-the-uber-files-the-media-and-the-coup-against-labor-rights/ | Source: Scheerpost

↺ https://scheerpost.com/2022/08/10/sleeping-at-the-wheel-the-uber-files-the-media-and-the-coup-against-labor-rights/

16:01 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Sleeping at the Wheel: The Uber Files, the Media, and the Coup Against Labor Rights scheerpost.com

16:03 Techrights-sec; ack

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16:06 schestowitz-TR; potential threats:

16:06 schestowitz-TR; - they'll say only ill people wear it

16:07 schestowitz-TR; - only pedos like michaerl jackson

16:07 schestowitz-TR; -it makes you suspicious

16:07 schestowitz-TR; .... maybe more, in a matter of years

16:07 schestowitz-TR; many thing this virus is over (and they hide the data, ignore it in the media)

16:08 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "protect the children" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/10/eu-commissioner-pens-barely-coherent-defense-of-spying-on-everyone-for-the-children/ | Source: Techdirt

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/10/eu-commissioner-pens-barely-coherent-defense-of-spying-on-everyone-for-the-children/

16:08 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-EU Commissioner Pens Barely Coherent Defense Of Spying On Everyone, For The Children | Techdirt

16:11 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "As student debt in America reaches a record-breaking $1.8 trillion among 45 million federal borrowers" https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/student-debt-cancellation-movement/ | Source: The Nation

↺ https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/student-debt-cancellation-movement/

16:11 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thenation.com | What's Next for the Student Debt Cancellation Movement? | The Nation

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5 PM, August 11

17:16 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Not a good idea. That would be appeasing GAFAM. http://blogs.perl.org/users/dean/2022/08/please-relicense-from-perl-5-to-mit-or-apache-20-license.html

↺ http://blogs.perl.org/users/dean/2022/08/please-relicense-from-perl-5-to-mit-or-apache-20-license.html

17:16 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Please relicense from "Perl 5" to MIT or Apache 2.0 license | dean [blogs.perl.org]

17:55 schestowitz-TR; rianne has feedbkac on the UI

17:55 schestowitz-TR; today she got stuck when posting kernel releases (stable)

17:55 schestowitz-TR; it said the title was long and thus slug was too long

17:55 schestowitz-TR; she didn't know that that means and how to overcome iot

17:55 schestowitz-TR; maybe automatically truncate slug for long headlines?


6 PM, August 11

18:13 Techrights-sec; thanks!

18:13 Techrights-sec; I'll check it and ensure that the slug is truncated if it is too long

18:13 Techrights-sec; iirc the limit is 63 char, but the entry can be made more smoot

18:15 schestowitz-TR; cheers! noted to her, we have too much food atm -- opposite prob of last week

18:15 schestowitz-TR; will clean my rss feeds, then try to do some articles

18:15 schestowitz-TR; topics needed, I lack topics

18:24 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "A friend who is a serious jock bike rider got the virus recently. On day 5 he felt much better, and after testing negative, could not resist a little bike ride (which would probably kill me, but like I said, he bikes all the time)." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-08-11.virus.gmi

↺ gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-08-11.virus.gmi


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23:41 Techrights-sec; one topic would be the significance of M$ having lost its monopoly rents

23:41 Techrights-sec; if it loses its OEM monopoly that'd be enough to finish it off quickly

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23:58 psydruid; driving software bloat with a view to selling new hardware fits this agenda

23:59 psydruid; if we keep software lean and mean good enough hardware can keep up with new hardware running bloated software stacks


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