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07:43 Techrights-sec; ITWire seems to have fixed its hosting problem, at least temporarily.
07:43 Techrights-sec; ITWire seems to have fixed its hosting problem, at least temporarily.
07:43 Techrights-sec; tr/tm monitoring seems to have worked, at least for tr, there was the usual
07:43 Techrights-sec; tr/tm monitoring seems to have worked, at least for tr, there was the usual
07:43 Techrights-sec; brief slowdown at 03:40 for the system activities but nothing otherwise
07:43 Techrights-sec; brief slowdown at 03:40 for the system activities but nothing otherwise
07:44 schestowitz-TR; where is itwire now?
07:44 schestowitz-TR; where is itwire now?
07:45 Techrights-sec; digitalPacific
07:45 Techrights-sec; in Australia
07:45 Techrights-sec; DIGITAL PACIFIC PTY LTD w HQ in NSW
07:45 Techrights-sec; digitalPacific
07:45 Techrights-sec; in Australia
07:45 Techrights-sec; DIGITAL PACIFIC PTY LTD w HQ in NSW
07:46 schestowitz-TR; maybe for technical reasons
07:46 schestowitz-TR; maybe for technical reasons
07:46 schestowitz-TR; azure is a joke
07:46 schestowitz-TR; azure is a joke
07:47 Techrights-sec; a bad joke at best; hopefully ITWire learned its lesson about wasting money
07:47 Techrights-sec; a bad joke at best; hopefully ITWire learned its lesson about wasting money
07:47 Techrights-sec; it's suppose to be quite expensive compare to the services it immitates
07:47 Techrights-sec; it's suppose to be quite expensive compare to the services it immitates
07:47 Techrights-sec; in addition to the availability problems and such
07:47 Techrights-sec; in addition to the availability problems and such
07:48 schestowitz-TR; thanks for reminding me for mentioning something about azure in case I resign sooner than expected
07:48 schestowitz-TR; thanks for reminding me for mentioning something about azure in case I resign sooner than expected
07:53 Techrights-sec; I wouldn't waste the time, but if you think it will come up the pricing is
07:53 Techrights-sec; I wouldn't waste the time, but if you think it will come up the pricing is
07:53 Techrights-sec; probably public though most likely misleading
07:53 Techrights-sec; probably public though most likely misleading
07:53 Techrights-sec; apologies in advance for the link but no sites cover azure, since it is not
07:53 Techrights-sec; relevant: https://www.zdnet.com/article/global-azure-outage-knocked-out-virtual-machines-other-vm-dependent-services/
07:53 Techrights-sec; https://acloudguru.com/blog/engineering/what-happened-with-microsoft-azures-active-directory-and-dns-outages
07:53 Techrights-sec; apologies in advance for the link but no sites cover azure, since it is not
07:53 Techrights-sec; relevant: https://www.zdnet.com/article/global-azure-outage-knocked-out-virtual-machines-other-vm-dependent-services/
07:53 Techrights-sec; https://acloudguru.com/blog/engineering/what-happened-with-microsoft-azures-active-directory-and-dns-outages
07:53 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Global Azure outage knocked out virtual machines, other VM-dependent services | ZDNet
07:53 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Global Azure outage knocked out virtual machines, other VM-dependent services | ZDNet
07:53 Techrights-sec; https://www.exoprise.com/2021/12/16/azure-ad-microsoft-365-outage-december-15/
07:53 Techrights-sec; https://www.exoprise.com/2021/12/16/azure-ad-microsoft-365-outage-december-15/
07:53 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-acloudguru.com | What happened with Microsoft Azures AD and DNS outages? | A Cloud Guru
07:53 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-acloudguru.com | What happened with Microsoft Azures AD and DNS outages? | A Cloud Guru
07:53 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Global Azure AD Outage Affecting Microsoft 365 Services December 15 - Exoprise
07:53 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Global Azure AD Outage Affecting Microsoft 365 Services December 15 - Exoprise
07:55 schestowitz-TR; putting brands aside, anfocusing on concepts like in CS<
07:55 schestowitz-TR; putting brands aside, anfocusing on concepts like in CS<
07:55 schestowitz-TR; we can just tell people that "clown" means they are totally not in
07:55 schestowitz-TR; we can just tell people that "clown" means they are totally not in
07:55 schestowitz-TR; control;
07:55 schestowitz-TR; control;
07:55 schestowitz-TR; the clown controls are vendor lockin, so it's harder to move away than with tradition hosts
07:55 schestowitz-TR; the clown controls are vendor lockin, so it's harder to move away than with tradition hosts
07:55 schestowitz-TR; e.g. cpanel on centos
07:55 schestowitz-TR; e.g. cpanel on centos
07:55 schestowitz-TR; BTW, Canonical was shilling a Windows laptop yesterday
07:55 schestowitz-TR; BTW, Canonical was shilling a Windows laptop yesterday
08:02 Techrights-sec; https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29574027
08:02 Techrights-sec; https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29574027
08:02 Techrights-sec; mostly covered by crap sites
08:02 Techrights-sec; mostly covered by crap sites
08:02 Techrights-sec; yes the UI for the systems tends to be proprietary with clown computing,
08:02 Techrights-sec; yes the UI for the systems tends to be proprietary with clown computing,
08:02 Techrights-sec; instead of bog standard SSH or KVM (keyboard video)
08:02 Techrights-sec; instead of bog standard SSH or KVM (keyboard video)
08:02 Techrights-sec; Canonical has been full of microsofters for years, I'm surprised they
08:02 Techrights-sec; Canonical has been full of microsofters for years, I'm surprised they
08:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.ycombinator.com | Tell HN: Azure is having a major outage | Hacker News
08:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.ycombinator.com | Tell HN: Azure is having a major outage | Hacker News
08:02 Techrights-sec; haven't managed to cancel Ubuntu from the inside. Though it does seem that
08:02 Techrights-sec; haven't managed to cancel Ubuntu from the inside. Though it does seem that
08:02 Techrights-sec; Canonical has been misdirecting and wasting effort since thatincursion started
08:02 Techrights-sec; Canonical has been misdirecting and wasting effort since thatincursion started
08:02 Techrights-sec; https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252497921/Microsoft-cloud-users-hit-by-global-outage-linked-to-Azure-Active-Directory-issue
08:02 Techrights-sec; https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252497921/Microsoft-cloud-users-hit-by-global-outage-linked-to-Azure-Active-Directory-issue
08:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.computerweekly.com | Microsoft cloud users hit by global outage linked to Azure Active Directory issue
08:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.computerweekly.com | Microsoft cloud users hit by global outage linked to Azure Active Directory issue
08:02 Techrights-sec; https://www.crn.com/slide-shows/cloud/the-10-biggest-cloud-outages-of-2021-so-far-/7
08:02 Techrights-sec; https://www.crn.com/slide-shows/cloud/the-10-biggest-cloud-outages-of-2021-so-far-/7
08:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.crn.com | The 10 Biggest Cloud Outages Of 2021 (So Far)
08:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.crn.com | The 10 Biggest Cloud Outages Of 2021 (So Far)
08:09 schestowitz-TR; a prt of me reallyy hope for closure re the company
08:09 schestowitz-TR; a prt of me reallyy hope for closure re the company
08:09 schestowitz-TR; rianne had come to acceptance of that too
08:09 schestowitz-TR; rianne had come to acceptance of that too
08:09 schestowitz-TR; BTW, see the storyat the very top of TM right now
08:09 schestowitz-TR; BTW, see the storyat the very top of TM right now
08:09 schestowitz-TR; I also put it in my notes to use the spare time to improve the sites, as if it was part of the job
08:09 schestowitz-TR; I also put it in my notes to use the spare time to improve the sites, as if it was part of the job
08:11 Techrights-sec; checking
08:11 Techrights-sec; checking
08:11 Techrights-sec; Fedora or TM turning 18?
08:11 Techrights-sec; Fedora or TM turning 18?
08:11 schestowitz-TR; did I say Fedoa?
08:11 schestowitz-TR; did I say Fedoa?
08:20 schestowitz; x https://text.npr.org/1098066371
08:20 schestowitz; x https://text.npr.org/1098066371
08:20 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-text.npr.org | Bill Gates tests positive for COVID-19, says he's experiencing mild symptoms
08:20 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-text.npr.org | Bill Gates tests positive for COVID-19, says he's experiencing mild symptoms
08:27 Techrights-sec; that's at the top of TM atm
08:27 Techrights-sec; I see further down something about Windoze workstations
08:27 Techrights-sec; that's at the top of TM atm
08:27 Techrights-sec; I see further down something about Windoze workstations
08:27 Techrights-sec; that article is Canonical pushing WSL to (knowingly or unknowingly) destroy
08:27 Techrights-sec; that article is Canonical pushing WSL to (knowingly or unknowingly) destroy
08:27 Techrights-sec; or at least hurt GNU/Linux adoption / usage
08:27 Techrights-sec; or at least hurt GNU/Linux adoption / usage
08:33 schestowitz-TR; EFF and Roe (yes, EFF is run by women to focus on women's rights, more so than tech rights) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/what-companies-can-do-now-protect-digital-rights-post-roe-world | Source: EFF
08:33 schestowitz-TR; EFF and Roe (yes, EFF is run by women to focus on women's rights, more so than tech rights) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/what-companies-can-do-now-protect-digital-rights-post-roe-world | Source: EFF
08:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | What Companies Can Do Now to Protect Digital Rights In A Post-Roe World | Electronic Frontier Foundation
08:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | What Companies Can Do Now to Protect Digital Rights In A Post-Roe World | Electronic Frontier Foundation
08:33 schestowitz-TR; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.eff.org | What Companies Can Do Now to Protect Digital Rights In A Post-Roe World | Electronic Frontier Foundation
08:33 schestowitz-TR; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.eff.org | What Companies Can Do Now to Protect Digital Rights In A Post-Roe World | Electronic Frontier Foundation
08:33 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> EFF and Roe (yes, EFF is run by women to focus on women's rights, more so than tech rights) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/reproductive-privacy-requires-data-privacy | Source: EFF
08:33 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> EFF and Roe (yes, EFF is run by women to focus on women's rights, more so than tech rights) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/reproductive-privacy-requires-data-privacy | Source: EFF
08:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | Reproductive Privacy Requires Data Privacy | Electronic Frontier Foundation
08:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | Reproductive Privacy Requires Data Privacy | Electronic Frontier Foundation
08:33 schestowitz-TR; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.eff.org | Reproductive Privacy Requires Data Privacy | Electronic Frontier Foundation
08:33 schestowitz-TR; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.eff.org | Reproductive Privacy Requires Data Privacy | Electronic Frontier Foundation
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09:37 schestowitz-TR; [09:36] <techrights-news> MusKSA (oil money buying Twitter) spreads climate disinfo or turns a blind eye https://www.desmog.com/2022/05/10/twitters-new-ad-policy-ignores-a-subtler-form-of-climate-disinformation/ | Source: DeSmog
09:37 schestowitz-TR; [09:36] <techrights-news> MusKSA (oil money buying Twitter) spreads climate disinfo or turns a blind eye https://www.desmog.com/2022/05/10/twitters-new-ad-policy-ignores-a-subtler-form-of-climate-disinformation/ | Source: DeSmog
09:37 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Twitters New Ad Policy Ignores a Subtler Form of Climate Disinformation - DeSmog
09:37 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Twitters New Ad Policy Ignores a Subtler Form of Climate Disinformation - DeSmog
09:38 Techrights-sec; yep that's what it'll be used for -- spreading strife and disinformation
09:38 Techrights-sec; yep that's what it'll be used for -- spreading strife and disinformation
09:38 Techrights-sec; at a scale that will vastly overshadow what we saw before
09:38 Techrights-sec; at a scale that will vastly overshadow what we saw before
09:39 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> EFF: We take money from billionaires and from Gulag. Can you top up their 'donations'? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/token-thanks-brighter-future | Source: EFF
09:39 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> EFF: We take money from billionaires and from Gulag. Can you top up their 'donations'? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/token-thanks-brighter-future | Source: EFF
09:39 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | A Token of Thanks for a Brighter Future | Electronic Frontier Foundation
09:39 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | A Token of Thanks for a Brighter Future | Electronic Frontier Foundation
09:40 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Trump and MusKSA (yes, Saudis funded the sale) want to cause more strife https://truthout.org/articles/elon-musk-says-hell-let-trump-back-on-twitter-calling-ban-foolish/ | Source: TruthOut
09:40 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Trump and MusKSA (yes, Saudis funded the sale) want to cause more strife https://truthout.org/articles/elon-musk-says-hell-let-trump-back-on-twitter-calling-ban-foolish/ | Source: TruthOut
09:40 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | Elon Musk Says Hell Let Trump Back on Twitter, Calling Ban Foolish
09:40 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | Elon Musk Says Hell Let Trump Back on Twitter, Calling Ban Foolish
09:43 Techrights-sec; encouraging incitement to violence and other already illegal activities is just
09:43 Techrights-sec; encouraging incitement to violence and other already illegal activities is just
09:43 Techrights-sec; one means of spreading strife
09:43 Techrights-sec; one means of spreading strife
09:43 Techrights-sec; free speech is just a red herring and collateral damage since it gets associated
09:43 Techrights-sec; free speech is just a red herring and collateral damage since it gets associated
09:43 Techrights-sec; with illegal activities there; it has gone so far that the term "free speech"
09:43 Techrights-sec; with illegal activities there; it has gone so far that the term "free speech"
09:43 Techrights-sec; has become a dog whistle for several political leanings who use it to refer
09:43 Techrights-sec; has become a dog whistle for several political leanings who use it to refer
09:43 Techrights-sec; to hate speech and various other problems including already illegal activities
09:43 Techrights-sec; to hate speech and various other problems including already illegal activities
09:51 schestowitz-TR; we need to keep driving home that message
09:51 schestowitz-TR; we need to keep driving home that message
09:51 schestowitz-TR; even if that takes years
09:51 schestowitz-TR; even if that takes years
09:51 schestowitz-TR; even just changing vocabularies can help
09:51 schestowitz-TR; even just changing vocabularies can help
09:51 schestowitz-TR; social control media, clownflare etc.
09:51 schestowitz-TR; social control media, clownflare etc.
09:51 schestowitz-TR; I think catchy phrases spread faster
09:51 schestowitz-TR; I think catchy phrases spread faster
09:51 schestowitz-TR; openwashing is one I coined 15 years ago (afaik)
09:51 schestowitz-TR; openwashing is one I coined 15 years ago (afaik)
09:51 schestowitz-TR; it's a shaming word
09:51 schestowitz-TR; it's a shaming word
09:51 schestowitz-TR; maybe OSI will say it's a homophobic term
09:51 schestowitz-TR; maybe OSI will say it's a homophobic term
09:51 schestowitz-TR; screw them
09:51 schestowitz-TR; screw them
09:57 schestowitz-TR; Twitter has, in general, gone well past its peak, even before tryint to cash in (by axing third parties) in 2018
09:57 schestowitz-TR; Twitter has, in general, gone well past its peak, even before tryint to cash in (by axing third parties) in 2018
09:57 schestowitz-TR; I think the HUGE focus on Trump harmed them
09:57 schestowitz-TR; I think the HUGE focus on Trump harmed them
09:57 schestowitz-TR; they actively promotes pro- and anti-Trump instead of focusing on what users ACTUALLY
09:57 schestowitz-TR; they actively promotes pro- and anti-Trump instead of focusing on what users ACTUALLY
09:57 schestowitz-TR; FOLLOWED!!! And that led to emotional drain
09:57 schestowitz-TR; FOLLOWED!!! And that led to emotional drain
09:57 schestowitz-TR; Mastodon came about, but I know from experience how shtty it can be
09:57 schestowitz-TR; Mastodon came about, but I know from experience how shtty it can be
09:57 schestowitz-TR; for multiple reason
09:57 schestowitz-TR; for multiple reason
09:57 schestowitz-TR; people who STILL dabble in those things don't reach big audiences
09:57 schestowitz-TR; people who STILL dabble in those things don't reach big audiences
09:57 schestowitz-TR; distrotoot and devault shut those down
09:57 schestowitz-TR; distrotoot and devault shut those down
09:57 schestowitz-TR; because it was more trouble than it was worth
09:57 schestowitz-TR; because it was more trouble than it was worth
09:57 schestowitz-TR; I do not REGRET spending the time I did in those "sites"
09:57 schestowitz-TR; I do not REGRET spending the time I did in those "sites"
09:57 schestowitz-TR; I partly regret not leaving sooner
09:57 schestowitz-TR; I partly regret not leaving sooner
09:57 schestowitz-TR; as some of them had run our of users years ago
09:57 schestowitz-TR; as some of them had run our of users years ago
09:57 schestowitz-TR; and were not worth the hassle anymore
09:57 schestowitz-TR; and were not worth the hassle anymore
09:57 schestowitz-TR; Twitter IS STILL TOTALLY FAKING IT
09:57 schestowitz-TR; Twitter IS STILL TOTALLY FAKING IT
09:57 schestowitz-TR; since 2 weeks before the sale they're shown my stats QUADRUPLING
09:57 schestowitz-TR; since 2 weeks before the sale they're shown my stats QUADRUPLING
09:57 schestowitz-TR; every day
09:57 schestowitz-TR; every day
09:59 Techrights-sec; ack
09:59 Techrights-sec; ack
09:59 Techrights-sec; if twitter is engaged in fraud, that is actionable by the SEC among others
09:59 Techrights-sec; if twitter is engaged in fraud, that is actionable by the SEC among others
09:59 Techrights-sec; if I understand correctly
09:59 Techrights-sec; if I understand correctly
10:00 schestowitz-TR; good luck proving it
10:00 schestowitz-TR; good luck proving it
10:00 schestowitz-TR; "open source" as code for "Trump is back"
10:00 schestowitz-TR; "open source" as code for "Trump is back"
10:00 schestowitz-TR; MusKSA will tarnish the terms "free speech" and "Open Source" some more
10:00 schestowitz-TR; MusKSA will tarnish the terms "free speech" and "Open Source" some more
10:00 schestowitz-TR; media already used Mastoidon et al to associate us with HATE speech, Nazis, ISIS...
10:00 schestowitz-TR; media already used Mastoidon et al to associate us with HATE speech, Nazis, ISIS...
10:01 Techrights-sec; it looks that way
10:01 Techrights-sec; it looks that way
10:01 Techrights-sec; they will leverage anything to inhibit software freedom
10:01 Techrights-sec; they will leverage anything to inhibit software freedom
10:01 Techrights-sec; yes, as mentioned the phrase "free speech" is being used as a dog whistle
10:01 Techrights-sec; yes, as mentioned the phrase "free speech" is being used as a dog whistle
10:03 schestowitz-TR; defrauding the public using tweets = "free speech"
10:03 schestowitz-TR; defrauding the public using tweets = "free speech"
10:03 schestowitz-TR; visiting Epstein in PRISON = "free speech"
10:03 schestowitz-TR; visiting Epstein in PRISON = "free speech"
10:03 schestowitz-TR; (billg: I was in contact with him to meet rich people... yeah, the prison was a C&^C Centre for rich people ^_^ )
10:03 schestowitz-TR; (billg: I was in contact with him to meet rich people... yeah, the prison was a C&^C Centre for rich people ^_^ )
10:04 schestowitz-TR; I don't always do social networking with banksters
10:04 schestowitz-TR; I don't always do social networking with banksters
10:04 schestowitz-TR; but when I do, I go into a cage with one person in orange shirt
10:04 schestowitz-TR; but when I do, I go into a cage with one person in orange shirt
10:04 schestowitz-TR; [meme]
10:04 schestowitz-TR; [meme]
10:10 schestowitz-TR; [10:10] <techrights-news> MusKSA: let's buy Twitter to destabilise USA and distract from how badly people get f-ed by oligarchs and oil giants https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/10/critics-say-musk-lifting-trump-twitter-ban-would-assist-authoritarian-crusade | Source: Common Dreams
10:10 schestowitz-TR; [10:10] <techrights-news> MusKSA: let's buy Twitter to destabilise USA and distract from how badly people get f-ed by oligarchs and oil giants https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/10/critics-say-musk-lifting-trump-twitter-ban-would-assist-authoritarian-crusade | Source: Common Dreams
10:10 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Critics Say Musk Lifting Trump Twitter Ban Would Assist 'Authoritarian Crusade'
10:10 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Critics Say Musk Lifting Trump Twitter Ban Would Assist 'Authoritarian Crusade'
10:10 schestowitz-TR; correct me if I missed something, but FSF said nothing
10:10 schestowitz-TR; correct me if I missed something, but FSF said nothing
10:10 schestowitz-TR; in IRC
10:10 schestowitz-TR; in IRC
10:10 schestowitz-TR; in twitter
10:10 schestowitz-TR; in twitter
10:10 schestowitz-TR; in fsf.org
10:10 schestowitz-TR; in fsf.org
10:10 schestowitz-TR; about the Twitetr sale
10:10 schestowitz-TR; about the Twitetr sale
10:10 schestowitz-TR; took them a year to point our Twitter REQUIRES proprietary software in the client side
10:10 schestowitz-TR; took them a year to point our Twitter REQUIRES proprietary software in the client side
10:11 schestowitz-TR; and they are STILL on there
10:11 schestowitz-TR; and they are STILL on there
10:21 Techrights-sec; ack
10:21 Techrights-sec; ack
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11:08 Techrights-sec; do you have external speakers on the rpi? I'm wondering if it is worth
11:08 Techrights-sec; do you have external speakers on the rpi? I'm wondering if it is worth
11:08 Techrights-sec; adding audio to the monitoring program
11:08 Techrights-sec; adding audio to the monitoring program
11:08 Techrights-sec; beyond the GPIO buzzer
11:08 Techrights-sec; beyond the GPIO buzzer
11:12 schestowitz-TR; no, I did plug in the headphones after putting debian 11 and iirc it worked
11:12 schestowitz-TR; no, I did plug in the headphones after putting debian 11 and iirc it worked
11:12 schestowitz-TR; but not without them
11:12 schestowitz-TR; but not without them
11:13 schestowitz-TR; and I'm not even sure it did work, I just forgot
11:13 schestowitz-TR; and I'm not even sure it did work, I just forgot
11:13 schestowitz-TR; the pi is only visible in another room
11:13 schestowitz-TR; the pi is only visible in another room
11:13 schestowitz-TR; (where rianne works)
11:13 schestowitz-TR; (where rianne works)
11:13 schestowitz-TR; btw, rianne is doign research on .gov sites
11:13 schestowitz-TR; btw, rianne is doign research on .gov sites
11:13 schestowitz-TR; re rights of workers
11:13 schestowitz-TR; re rights of workers
11:13 schestowitz-TR; we don't want to get tricked
11:13 schestowitz-TR; we don't want to get tricked
11:13 schestowitz-TR; the important thing is like "right to remain silent"
11:13 schestowitz-TR; the important thing is like "right to remain silent"
11:13 schestowitz-TR; and decide later, offline
11:13 schestowitz-TR; and decide later, offline
11:13 schestowitz-TR; as there are legal hacks to avoid paying compensation etc.
11:13 schestowitz-TR; as there are legal hacks to avoid paying compensation etc.
11:13 schestowitz-TR; "roy, would you like to work on a Microsoft project???"
11:13 schestowitz-TR; "roy, would you like to work on a Microsoft project???"
11:13 schestowitz-TR; if I say "no", I can lose the right for compensation over 11+ years
11:13 schestowitz-TR; if I say "no", I can lose the right for compensation over 11+ years
11:13 schestowitz-TR; I also may need to check the nregistration status of the companies (now sliced into 3, at least two in debt)
11:13 schestowitz-TR; I also may need to check the nregistration status of the companies (now sliced into 3, at least two in debt)
11:13 schestowitz-TR; approaching an employment lawyer before knowing the facts is hard
11:13 schestowitz-TR; approaching an employment lawyer before knowing the facts is hard
11:13 schestowitz-TR; lol, imagine going on the call with a lawyer next to me :-)
11:13 schestowitz-TR; lol, imagine going on the call with a lawyer next to me :-)
11:13 schestowitz-TR; that would piss them off
11:13 schestowitz-TR; that would piss them off
11:13 Techrights-sec; ok
11:13 Techrights-sec; :( sounds like some kind of debt shuffle to leave someone holding the bag
11:13 Techrights-sec; ok
11:13 Techrights-sec; :( sounds like some kind of debt shuffle to leave someone holding the bag
11:14 schestowitz-TR; we are not and were never registered as shareholders
11:14 schestowitz-TR; we are not and were never registered as shareholders
11:14 schestowitz-TR; I think one colleague foolishly may have, but not us
11:14 schestowitz-TR; I think one colleague foolishly may have, but not us
11:14 schestowitz-TR; and I checked with the pension provider, very long call, she even asked a colleague to verify
11:14 schestowitz-TR; and I checked with the pension provider, very long call, she even asked a colleague to verify
11:15 Techrights-sec; that a relief
11:15 Techrights-sec; that a relief
11:17 schestowitz-TR; having just used intercom (rianne sends links over ssh, via pi)
11:17 schestowitz-TR; having just used intercom (rianne sends links over ssh, via pi)
11:17 schestowitz-TR; we agreed that maybe they take 9 days not as strategic nuisnace
11:17 schestowitz-TR; we agreed that maybe they take 9 days not as strategic nuisnace
11:17 schestowitz-TR; but rather to prepare for a stage entrapment
11:17 schestowitz-TR; but rather to prepare for a stage entrapment
11:17 schestowitz-TR; and we should basically say nothing back, just record the thing
11:17 schestowitz-TR; and we should basically say nothing back, just record the thing
11:17 schestowitz-TR; and repeat, we need to check
11:17 schestowitz-TR; and repeat, we need to check
11:17 schestowitz-TR; even if they repeatedly prod
11:17 schestowitz-TR; even if they repeatedly prod
11:17 schestowitz-TR; I don't mind paying a legal veteran to study this and advice afterwards
11:17 schestowitz-TR; I don't mind paying a legal veteran to study this and advice afterwards
11:17 schestowitz-TR; *advise
11:17 schestowitz-TR; *advise
11:23 Techrights-sec; sounds like a wise approach
11:23 Techrights-sec; sounds like a wise approach
11:26 schestowitz-TR; warning: there is a good chance I might accept a more demanding role for few hours per week
11:26 schestowitz-TR; warning: there is a good chance I might accept a more demanding role for few hours per week
11:26 schestowitz-TR; rianne saw job ads yesterday at the shop
11:26 schestowitz-TR; rianne saw job ads yesterday at the shop
11:26 schestowitz-TR; realised she was being paid more than the managers there
11:26 schestowitz-TR; realised she was being paid more than the managers there
11:26 schestowitz-TR; to basically babysit elaphants in LibreWolf (ad-freee GulagTube)
11:26 schestowitz-TR; to basically babysit elaphants in LibreWolf (ad-freee GulagTube)
11:26 schestowitz-TR; and having no job at all is fun only while funds last, it's not a long-term strategy
11:26 schestowitz-TR; and having no job at all is fun only while funds last, it's not a long-term strategy
11:26 Techrights-sec; ack
11:26 Techrights-sec; :)
11:26 Techrights-sec; ack
11:26 Techrights-sec; :)
11:29 schestowitz-TR; at 200 years combined we're
11:29 schestowitz-TR; at 200 years combined we're
11:29 schestowitz-TR; *20 years
11:29 schestowitz-TR; *20 years
11:29 schestowitz-TR; we are too expensive to get rid of
11:29 schestowitz-TR; we are too expensive to get rid of
11:29 schestowitz-TR; (if I understand the law correctly, with the caveats)
11:29 schestowitz-TR; (if I understand the law correctly, with the caveats)
11:29 schestowitz-TR; and I have not ofended anyone yet(
11:29 schestowitz-TR; and I have not ofended anyone yet(
11:29 schestowitz-TR; irc is like tv to amish in our company
11:29 schestowitz-TR; irc is like tv to amish in our company
11:29 schestowitz-TR; they know that to do more technical work I demand a suitable salary and better working hours
11:29 schestowitz-TR; they know that to do more technical work I demand a suitable salary and better working hours
11:30 Techrights-sec; good
11:30 Techrights-sec; good
12:13 schestowitz-TR; the latest from paypal (I do manually curated last) shows the centralisation issue
12:13 schestowitz-TR; the latest from paypal (I do manually curated last) shows the centralisation issue
12:13 schestowitz-TR; in content of financing
12:13 schestowitz-TR; in content of financing
12:13 schestowitz-TR; consortiumnews became more probelemic in recent years
12:13 schestowitz-TR; consortiumnews became more probelemic in recent years
12:13 schestowitz-TR; I unsubscribed because some of their virew were a little radical for me
12:13 schestowitz-TR; I unsubscribed because some of their virew were a little radical for me
12:13 schestowitz-TR; same for offguardian
12:13 schestowitz-TR; same for offguardian
12:14 schestowitz-TR; and mint
12:14 schestowitz-TR; and mint
12:14 schestowitz-TR; usuauly I'd just skip the rotten ones
12:14 schestowitz-TR; usuauly I'd just skip the rotten ones
12:14 schestowitz-TR; from the new owners
12:14 schestowitz-TR; from the new owners
12:14 Techrights-sec; should the three be added to the blacklist then?
12:14 Techrights-sec; should the three be added to the blacklist then?
12:14 schestowitz-TR; but if they become frequent I don't want to associate in any way anymore
12:14 schestowitz-TR; but if they become frequent I don't want to associate in any way anymore
12:17 Techrights-sec; should the three be added to the blacklist then?
12:17 Techrights-sec; ok
12:17 Techrights-sec; should the three be added to the blacklist then?
12:17 Techrights-sec; ok
12:17 schestowitz-TR; no,
12:17 schestowitz-TR; no,
12:17 schestowitz-TR; I am still reading the picks
12:17 schestowitz-TR; I am still reading the picks
12:17 schestowitz-TR; to understand the extent of the ban
12:17 schestowitz-TR; to understand the extent of the ban
12:17 schestowitz-TR; if it's just Joe Lauria
12:17 schestowitz-TR; if it's just Joe Lauria
12:17 schestowitz-TR; then calling it "left wing" is an oversimplification
12:17 schestowitz-TR; then calling it "left wing" is an oversimplification
12:17 schestowitz-TR; afiiak, murray is in good standing w/ paypal
12:17 schestowitz-TR; afiiak, murray is in good standing w/ paypal
12:23 Techrights-sec; ack
12:23 Techrights-sec; ack
12:29 schestowitz-TR; from memory: CN (ConsortiumNews) was OK at one point, I believe run by the son of the founder after he had died
12:29 schestowitz-TR; from memory: CN (ConsortiumNews) was OK at one point, I believe run by the son of the founder after he had died
12:29 schestowitz-TR; maybe first a heart attack
12:29 schestowitz-TR; maybe first a heart attack
12:29 schestowitz-TR; and then death
12:29 schestowitz-TR; and then death
12:29 schestowitz-TR; look it up for more accurate details
12:29 schestowitz-TR; look it up for more accurate details
12:29 schestowitz-TR; the name was Perry
12:29 schestowitz-TR; the name was Perry
12:29 schestowitz-TR; Perry was very good!
12:29 schestowitz-TR; Perry was very good!
12:29 schestowitz-TR; The current editor is something else
12:29 schestowitz-TR; The current editor is something else
12:29 schestowitz-TR; and I remove from RSS due to that
12:29 schestowitz-TR; and I remove from RSS due to that
12:29 schestowitz-TR; after many yearts
12:29 schestowitz-TR; after many yearts
12:29 schestowitz-TR; they also used to run columns for decent people
12:29 schestowitz-TR; they also used to run columns for decent people
12:29 schestowitz-TR; Ray McGovern was one of them, IIRC
12:29 schestowitz-TR; Ray McGovern was one of them, IIRC
12:29 schestowitz-TR; in years that followed they kept getting flagged "Russia" and "propaganda" and stuff
12:29 schestowitz-TR; in years that followed they kept getting flagged "Russia" and "propaganda" and stuff
12:29 schestowitz-TR; it's not 100% unthinkable that some funds for them could be traced back to rather
12:29 schestowitz-TR; it's not 100% unthinkable that some funds for them could be traced back to rather
12:29 schestowitz-TR; dodgy accounts
12:29 schestowitz-TR; dodgy accounts
12:29 schestowitz-TR; I don't know if they published pro-Putin talking points
12:29 schestowitz-TR; I don't know if they published pro-Putin talking points
12:30 schestowitz-TR; but if they did, it would not shock me
12:30 schestowitz-TR; but if they did, it would not shock me
12:30 schestowitz-TR; they are riding the old name/reputation
12:30 schestowitz-TR; they are riding the old name/reputation
12:30 schestowitz-TR; like Cohn at EFF
12:30 schestowitz-TR; like Cohn at EFF
12:30 schestowitz-TR; or several people at OSI
12:30 schestowitz-TR; or several people at OSI
12:30 schestowitz-TR; (or SPLC
12:30 schestowitz-TR; (or SPLC
12:30 schestowitz-TR; iirc, the acronym)
12:30 schestowitz-TR; iirc, the acronym)
12:30 schestowitz-TR; I never knew the original SPLC, but was told stories and read about more people leaving
12:30 schestowitz-TR; I never knew the original SPLC, but was told stories and read about more people leaving
12:32 Techrights-sec; ack
12:32 Techrights-sec; ack
12:32 Techrights-sec; a lot of names to keep track of
12:32 Techrights-sec; a lot of names to keep track of
12:32 Techrights-sec; not a surprise, the SPLC is not really related to its original form except by
12:32 Techrights-sec; name
12:32 Techrights-sec; not a surprise, the SPLC is not really related to its original form except by
12:32 Techrights-sec; name
12:32 schestowitz-TR; fwiw, "mint" seems to have lost Whitney Webb
12:32 schestowitz-TR; fwiw, "mint" seems to have lost Whitney Webb
12:32 schestowitz-TR; she is mostly doing her own site now
12:32 schestowitz-TR; she is mostly doing her own site now
12:32 schestowitz-TR; mintpress is reposting scheer/hedges and a lot of the time posts rather inflammatroy palestnian propaganda
12:32 schestowitz-TR; mintpress is reposting scheer/hedges and a lot of the time posts rather inflammatroy palestnian propaganda
12:32 schestowitz-TR; which insinuates a stste of israel does not even exist
12:32 schestowitz-TR; which insinuates a stste of israel does not even exist
12:32 schestowitz-TR; it got worse over time
12:32 schestowitz-TR; it got worse over time
12:34 Techrights-sec; I think it is rare to find something good + relevant there these days
12:34 Techrights-sec; I think it is rare to find something good + relevant there these days
12:36 schestowitz-TR; I used to skip the most toxic articles there, like I skip seo/webspam in some "linux" sites
12:36 schestowitz-TR; I used to skip the most toxic articles there, like I skip seo/webspam in some "linux" sites
12:36 schestowitz-TR; but at some stage you send gulagjuice and associate with spammy or very bad sites
12:36 schestowitz-TR; but at some stage you send gulagjuice and associate with spammy or very bad sites
12:36 schestowitz-TR; like linking to breitbart or rt
12:36 schestowitz-TR; like linking to breitbart or rt
12:36 schestowitz-TR; which, if it doesn't harm ranking, can derank you in the eyes of readers
12:36 schestowitz-TR; which, if it doesn't harm ranking, can derank you in the eyes of readers
12:36 schestowitz-TR; mostly by associat[on
12:36 schestowitz-TR; mostly by associat[on
12:36 schestowitz-TR; let me check if scheer post (offshoot of now-defuncy truthdig) has rss feed
12:36 schestowitz-TR; let me check if scheer post (offshoot of now-defuncy truthdig) has rss feed
12:36 schestowitz-TR; NOT all sites have RSS feeds anymore
12:36 schestowitz-TR; NOT all sites have RSS feeds anymore
12:36 schestowitz-TR; or they hide those
12:36 schestowitz-TR; or they hide those
12:36 schestowitz-TR; or don't know what the hell that is
12:36 schestowitz-TR; or don't know what the hell that is
12:36 schestowitz-TR; even when it exists
12:36 schestowitz-TR; even when it exists
12:36 schestowitz-TR; OK, so they have 7 writers now
12:36 schestowitz-TR; OK, so they have 7 writers now
12:36 schestowitz-TR; many of thr old crew at treuthdig
12:36 schestowitz-TR; many of thr old crew at treuthdig
12:36 schestowitz; maybe replace mint with https://scheerpost.com/feed/ ?
12:36 schestowitz; maybe replace mint with https://scheerpost.com/feed/ ?
12:39 Techrights-sec; ok
12:39 Techrights-sec; some have a feed but accidentally hidden, I rote to a major paper last year
12:39 Techrights-sec; ok
12:39 Techrights-sec; some have a feed but accidentally hidden, I rote to a major paper last year
12:39 Techrights-sec; and they responded with the URL to their feed, which is nice because all their
12:39 Techrights-sec; and they responded with the URL to their feed, which is nice because all their
12:39 Techrights-sec; articles are of good quality even only a few are relevant
12:39 Techrights-sec; articles are of good quality even only a few are relevant
12:39 schestowitz-TR; social control media and Zuck/MusKSA USED to have RSS feeds
12:39 schestowitz-TR; social control media and Zuck/MusKSA USED to have RSS feeds
12:39 schestowitz-TR; like a decade+ ago
12:39 schestowitz-TR; like a decade+ ago
12:39 schestowitz-TR; to gain a "base"
12:39 schestowitz-TR; to gain a "base"
12:39 schestowitz-TR; but like Gulag, now they hate RSS
12:39 schestowitz-TR; but like Gulag, now they hate RSS
12:39 schestowitz-TR; because it's a competition to them if widely adopted for all sites
12:39 schestowitz-TR; because it's a competition to them if widely adopted for all sites
12:40 schestowitz-TR; and also threatens their business model
12:40 schestowitz-TR; and also threatens their business model
12:40 schestowitz-TR; (however sucky those models are)
12:40 schestowitz-TR; (however sucky those models are)
12:40 Techrights-sec; ok, checking
12:40 Techrights-sec; ok, checking
12:40 Techrights-sec; Feeds don't enhance "engagement", aslo known as addictive behaviors
12:40 Techrights-sec; Feeds don't enhance "engagement", aslo known as addictive behaviors
12:41 schestowitz-TR; RSS feeds => Inbox zero "OCD" at best
12:41 schestowitz-TR; RSS feeds => Inbox zero "OCD" at best
12:41 schestowitz-TR; infinite scoll is heroin
12:41 schestowitz-TR; infinite scoll is heroin
12:45 schestowitz-TR; infinite scroll = soft (or non) boundaries
12:45 schestowitz-TR; infinite scroll = soft (or non) boundaries
12:45 schestowitz-TR; index/rss reader = hard boundaries, even if you infinitely refresh over and over again, like email
12:45 schestowitz-TR; index/rss reader = hard boundaries, even if you infinitely refresh over and over again, like email
12:45 schestowitz-TR; not great, but it's like vomiting after drinking too much, rathr than going numb and passing out/dying from OD
12:45 schestowitz-TR; not great, but it's like vomiting after drinking too much, rathr than going numb and passing out/dying from OD
12:45 schestowitz-TR; (possible, but rare)
12:45 schestowitz-TR; (possible, but rare)
12:45 schestowitz-TR; hedges have been bouncing from one burning platfoprm to the next for over a decade
12:45 schestowitz-TR; hedges have been bouncing from one burning platfoprm to the next for over a decade
12:45 schestowitz-TR; just like SJVN
12:45 schestowitz-TR; just like SJVN
12:45 schestowitz-TR; those people are the "clown computing" of journalism
12:45 schestowitz-TR; those people are the "clown computing" of journalism
12:45 Techrights-sec; scheerpost is parsable but does not have a concise summary in the body
12:45 Techrights-sec; scheerpost is parsable but does not have a concise summary in the body
12:45 Techrights-sec; it does have a one-line description though
12:45 Techrights-sec; it does have a one-line description though
12:46 schestowitz-TR; that should do
12:46 schestowitz-TR; that should do
12:46 Techrights-sec; ok
12:46 Techrights-sec; ok
12:47 Techrights-sec; check git
12:47 Techrights-sec; check git
12:51 schestowitz-TR; it is good that you just commented that out
12:51 schestowitz-TR; it is good that you just commented that out
12:51 schestowitz-TR; assuming it can improve one day
12:51 schestowitz-TR; assuming it can improve one day
12:51 schestowitz-TR; which is rare because
12:51 schestowitz-TR; which is rare because
12:51 schestowitz-TR; once it goes south it loses the audience
12:51 schestowitz-TR; once it goes south it loses the audience
12:51 schestowitz-TR; so it lose the potential of recovery
12:51 schestowitz-TR; so it lose the potential of recovery
12:51 schestowitz-TR; that means that orgs can, over time, get better
12:51 schestowitz-TR; that means that orgs can, over time, get better
12:51 schestowitz-TR; if they get worse, jump ship
12:51 schestowitz-TR; if they get worse, jump ship
12:51 schestowitz-TR; don't sink with it
12:51 schestowitz-TR; don't sink with it
12:51 schestowitz-TR; I cannot think of an org that recovered
12:51 schestowitz-TR; I cannot think of an org that recovered
12:51 schestowitz-TR; with osi it is an avalanche
12:51 schestowitz-TR; with osi it is an avalanche
12:51 schestowitz-TR; now people complain that even the election process itself is RIGGED
12:51 schestowitz-TR; now people complain that even the election process itself is RIGGED
12:51 schestowitz-TR; not merely technically cracked, defunct
12:51 schestowitz-TR; not merely technically cracked, defunct
12:51 schestowitz-TR; so the very machanism for self-repair has been mismantled by Gulag, ICBM and EpsteinPAC (MSFT)
12:51 schestowitz-TR; so the very machanism for self-repair has been mismantled by Gulag, ICBM and EpsteinPAC (MSFT)
12:51 Techrights-sec; applicable name for M$
12:51 Techrights-sec; applicable name for M$
12:54 schestowitz-TR; I would not call Microsoft anything other than Microsoft
12:54 schestowitz-TR; I would not call Microsoft anything other than Microsoft
12:54 schestowitz-TR; because they spent a fortune demonising people who do that
12:54 schestowitz-TR; because they spent a fortune demonising people who do that
12:54 schestowitz-TR; also, Epstein is a very loaded topic
12:54 schestowitz-TR; also, Epstein is a very loaded topic
12:54 schestowitz-TR; one could call it "the company founded by Jeffrey Epstein's close buddy" (or "enabler")
12:54 schestowitz-TR; one could call it "the company founded by Jeffrey Epstein's close buddy" (or "enabler")
12:54 schestowitz-TR; but it would be off-putting to some audience
12:54 schestowitz-TR; but it would be off-putting to some audience
12:54 schestowitz-TR; the "qanon" straw man helps portray any mention of high-profile pedophiles as
12:54 schestowitz-TR; the "qanon" straw man helps portray any mention of high-profile pedophiles as
12:54 schestowitz-TR; crackery
12:54 schestowitz-TR; crackery
12:54 schestowitz-TR; *crankery
12:54 schestowitz-TR; *crankery
12:55 Techrights-sec; yes the reputation management campaigns have made some movement in associating
12:55 Techrights-sec; yes the reputation management campaigns have made some movement in associating
12:55 Techrights-sec; *any* criticism of bill as being unfounded and derived from cranks
12:55 Techrights-sec; *any* criticism of bill as being unfounded and derived from cranks
12:56 schestowitz-TR; don't worry, that won't succeed
12:56 schestowitz-TR; don't worry, that won't succeed
12:56 schestowitz-TR; and it serves to remind people of the scandal he wishes people stopped talking about
12:56 schestowitz-TR; and it serves to remind people of the scandal he wishes people stopped talking about
12:56 schestowitz-TR; worse than a scandal
12:56 schestowitz-TR; worse than a scandal
12:56 schestowitz-TR; there should be an indictment, IMHO
12:56 schestowitz-TR; there should be an indictment, IMHO
12:56 schestowitz-TR; (maybe there is one, nbut sealed and with many strings pulled to stop it... like the FL prosecutor...
12:56 schestowitz-TR; (maybe there is one, nbut sealed and with many strings pulled to stop it... like the FL prosecutor...
12:56 schestowitz-TR; Costa? Acosta?)
12:56 schestowitz-TR; Costa? Acosta?)
12:57 Techrights-sec; https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/12/11/18134325/jeffrey-epstein-miami-herald-alex-acosta-trump
12:57 Techrights-sec; https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/12/11/18134325/jeffrey-epstein-miami-herald-alex-acosta-trump
12:57 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Jeffrey Epstein case: Senate wants answers on Alex Acostas role - Vox
12:57 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Jeffrey Epstein case: Senate wants answers on Alex Acostas role - Vox
12:57 Techrights-sec; https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/12/jeffrey-epstein-unanswered-questions.html
12:57 Techrights-sec; https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/12/jeffrey-epstein-unanswered-questions.html
12:57 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nymag.com | Jeffrey Epstein: 24 Unanswered Questions
12:57 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nymag.com | Jeffrey Epstein: 24 Unanswered Questions
13:04 schestowitz-TR; lave it to BillPR (NPR) to paint the criminical as the victim
13:04 schestowitz-TR; lave it to BillPR (NPR) to paint the criminical as the victim
13:04 schestowitz-TR; "oh boy! I have COVID.... how much money did I make on this darn thing??"
13:04 schestowitz-TR; "oh boy! I have COVID.... how much money did I make on this darn thing??"
13:04 Techrights-sec; yep
13:04 Techrights-sec; yep
13:04 Techrights-sec; he was the one that cause the promise of royalty-free vaccines to be broken
13:04 Techrights-sec; he was the one that cause the promise of royalty-free vaccines to be broken
13:05 schestowitz-TR; and for me pointing that out I got banned from twitter for 3 months
13:05 schestowitz-TR; and for me pointing that out I got banned from twitter for 3 months
13:05 schestowitz-TR; (could be forever... all tweets became not visible, unlike now)
13:05 schestowitz-TR; (could be forever... all tweets became not visible, unlike now)
13:05 Techrights-sec; yep
13:05 Techrights-sec; yep
13:07 schestowitz-TR; maybe we should make a new name for Twitter
13:07 schestowitz-TR; maybe we should make a new name for Twitter
13:07 schestowitz-TR; There's social control media
13:07 schestowitz-TR; There's social control media
13:07 schestowitz-TR; and Twitter is the criminal network of social control nework
13:07 schestowitz-TR; and Twitter is the criminal network of social control nework
13:07 schestowitz-TR; MussKSA
13:07 schestowitz-TR; MussKSA
13:07 schestowitz-TR; to remind people what the owners think of free speech
13:07 schestowitz-TR; to remind people what the owners think of free speech
13:07 schestowitz-TR; chopping down journalists
13:07 schestowitz-TR; chopping down journalists
13:07 schestowitz-TR; soon with realDonaldTrump
13:07 schestowitz-TR; soon with realDonaldTrump
13:07 schestowitz-TR; calling for attacks on the government
13:07 schestowitz-TR; calling for attacks on the government
13:07 Techrights-sec; there's a lot of crossover between crime and politics, so trying to make
13:07 Techrights-sec; a distinction might not be so useful
13:07 Techrights-sec; there's a lot of crossover between crime and politics, so trying to make
13:07 Techrights-sec; a distinction might not be so useful
13:07 Techrights-sec; yes, the behavior was clearly illegal and breaking the highest laws of the land
13:07 Techrights-sec; yes, the behavior was clearly illegal and breaking the highest laws of the land
13:07 Techrights-sec; yet nothing happened, either online or in the courts
13:07 Techrights-sec; in response to the crimes
13:07 Techrights-sec; yet nothing happened, either online or in the courts
13:07 Techrights-sec; in response to the crimes
13:10 schestowitz-TR; in countries which fail to prosecute criminal there are terms for that
13:10 schestowitz-TR; in countries which fail to prosecute criminal there are terms for that
13:10 schestowitz-TR; formal names like "rogue nation"
13:10 schestowitz-TR; formal names like "rogue nation"
13:10 schestowitz-TR; bush names like "axis of evil"
13:10 schestowitz-TR; bush names like "axis of evil"
13:10 schestowitz-TR; or trump with "shithole countries"
13:10 schestowitz-TR; or trump with "shithole countries"
13:10 schestowitz-TR; I'm glad I don't live there. my sister regrete moving there, almost as soon as she had moved she felt that..
13:10 schestowitz-TR; I'm glad I don't live there. my sister regrete moving there, almost as soon as she had moved she felt that..
13:10 schestowitz-TR; and time did not change her mind
13:10 schestowitz-TR; and time did not change her mind
13:10 schestowitz-TR; she lives in "film" version of USA
13:10 schestowitz-TR; she lives in "film" version of USA
13:10 schestowitz-TR; not what's down on the ground
13:10 schestowitz-TR; not what's down on the ground
13:10 schestowitz-TR; USA spends a lot more in marketing than most other industries except maybe weapons
13:10 schestowitz-TR; USA spends a lot more in marketing than most other industries except maybe weapons
13:10 schestowitz-TR; (mostly because the arms are sold for like 10-100 times their production cost... graft_
13:10 schestowitz-TR; (mostly because the arms are sold for like 10-100 times their production cost... graft_
13:10 Techrights-sec; it was getting bad in the 1990s. I cannot imaging how whacko it has gotten since
13:10 Techrights-sec; it was getting bad in the 1990s. I cannot imaging how whacko it has gotten since
13:10 schestowitz-TR; )
13:10 schestowitz-TR; )
13:13 schestowitz-TR; a friend who travels a lot would have me assume life in china is no worse than in usa
13:13 schestowitz-TR; a friend who travels a lot would have me assume life in china is no worse than in usa
13:13 schestowitz-TR; but you know... marketing (or "social media" campaigns)
13:13 schestowitz-TR; but you know... marketing (or "social media" campaigns)
13:13 schestowitz-TR; japan... "aging population"
13:13 schestowitz-TR; japan... "aging population"
13:13 schestowitz-TR; misnomer for tackling overpopulation
13:13 schestowitz-TR; misnomer for tackling overpopulation
13:13 schestowitz-TR; as if nobody in the world would wish to work in japan and look after enderly people
13:13 schestowitz-TR; as if nobody in the world would wish to work in japan and look after enderly people
13:13 Techrights-sec; ack
13:13 Techrights-sec; there has been a sea change in values and attitude there, and much for the worse
13:13 Techrights-sec; ack
13:13 Techrights-sec; there has been a sea change in values and attitude there, and much for the worse
13:13 Techrights-sec; 40 years ago the situation would have been unimaginable and scoffed at if
13:13 Techrights-sec; described;
13:13 Techrights-sec; 40 years ago the situation would have been unimaginable and scoffed at if
13:13 Techrights-sec; described;
13:22 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "WIPO has finally responded to the Debian vendetta, informing the overpaid lawyers at Charles Fussell (parody site) that their claim didn't even reach first base." http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164485#comment-33615
13:22 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "WIPO has finally responded to the Debian vendetta, informing the overpaid lawyers at Charles Fussell (parody site) that their claim didn't even reach first base." http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164485#comment-33615
13:22 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Community News: Jonathan Cohen, Charles Fussell & Debian embezzlement | Tux Machines
13:22 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Community News: Jonathan Cohen, Charles Fussell & Debian embezzlement | Tux Machines
13:23 Techrights-sec; PH is now in worse trouble than it already had been and he only makes it worse
13:23 Techrights-sec; PH is now in worse trouble than it already had been and he only makes it worse
13:23 Techrights-sec; From what I read social control media had more than a small role in the
13:23 Techrights-sec; situation
13:23 Techrights-sec; From what I read social control media had more than a small role in the
13:23 Techrights-sec; situation
13:25 schestowitz-TR; From Truman to Trumpman
13:25 schestowitz-TR; From Truman to Trumpman
13:25 schestowitz-TR; same level of intellect
13:25 schestowitz-TR; same level of intellect
13:25 schestowitz-TR; or, a reflection oof nationmal IQ level
13:25 schestowitz-TR; or, a reflection oof nationmal IQ level
13:25 schestowitz-TR; apropos, ph is electing Ferdinand (jr.) Marcos BACK
13:25 schestowitz-TR; apropos, ph is electing Ferdinand (jr.) Marcos BACK
13:25 schestowitz-TR; I LOL so hard
13:25 schestowitz-TR; I LOL so hard
13:25 schestowitz-TR; yearning for the good days... of a mythical version of a dictator
13:25 schestowitz-TR; yearning for the good days... of a mythical version of a dictator
13:25 schestowitz-TR; yes, social conytrol media is lie amplifier
13:25 schestowitz-TR; yes, social conytrol media is lie amplifier
13:25 schestowitz-TR; so it favours liars like Trump
13:25 schestowitz-TR; so it favours liars like Trump
13:25 schestowitz-TR; and even Putin
13:25 schestowitz-TR; and even Putin
13:25 schestowitz-TR; but with Putin Twitter seems to have kicked off some "special treatment"
13:25 schestowitz-TR; but with Putin Twitter seems to have kicked off some "special treatment"
13:25 schestowitz-TR; they will soon unleash back a Russian candiate for 2024
13:25 schestowitz-TR; they will soon unleash back a Russian candiate for 2024
13:26 Techrights-sec; Interesting. Sad that Debian project has been infiltrated to the extent that
13:26 Techrights-sec; Interesting. Sad that Debian project has been infiltrated to the extent that
13:26 Techrights-sec; they play that game now. It was clearly in trouble when they acquiesced
13:26 Techrights-sec; they play that game now. It was clearly in trouble when they acquiesced
13:26 Techrights-sec; regarding 1 single person's call for systemd. It wasn't even 4th choice IIRC
13:26 Techrights-sec; regarding 1 single person's call for systemd. It wasn't even 4th choice IIRC
13:26 Techrights-sec; That candidate would be the same one as before
13:26 Techrights-sec; That candidate would be the same one as before
13:32 Techrights-sec; " There are no social media links here. Enjoy a friendly Citadel community instead. Or go outside. "
13:32 Techrights-sec; " There are no social media links here. Enjoy a friendly Citadel community instead. Or go outside. "
13:32 Techrights-sec; https://www.citadel.org/support.html
13:32 Techrights-sec; https://www.citadel.org/support.html
13:32 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-citadel.org
13:32 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-citadel.org
13:32 schestowitz-TR; "for everything else, there's masterslave"
13:32 schestowitz-TR; "for everything else, there's masterslave"
13:58 schestowitz-TR; a decade ago lunduke throw "antisemite" bombs at fabsh from linux outlaws
13:58 schestowitz-TR; a decade ago lunduke throw "antisemite" bombs at fabsh from linux outlaws
13:58 schestowitz-TR; now he does to a former employer, suse
13:58 schestowitz-TR; now he does to a former employer, suse
13:58 schestowitz-TR; get popcorn
13:58 schestowitz-TR; get popcorn
13:58 schestowitz-TR; maybe it'll become just as risky to hire people with religious beliefs
13:58 schestowitz-TR; maybe it'll become just as risky to hire people with religious beliefs
13:58 schestowitz-TR; as it is to hire feminists, trans etc.
13:58 schestowitz-TR; as it is to hire feminists, trans etc.
13:58 schestowitz-TR; you don't know how that's going to end up
13:58 schestowitz-TR; you don't know how that's going to end up
13:58 Techrights-sec; ack
13:58 Techrights-sec; ack
14:02 Techrights-sec; One place I was working for and some not so bright managers that felt cornered
14:02 Techrights-sec; One place I was working for and some not so bright managers that felt cornered
14:02 Techrights-sec; because of one job candidate. The candidate had gag orders on the previous
14:02 Techrights-sec; because of one job candidate. The candidate had gag orders on the previous
14:02 Techrights-sec; three employers which was discovered when the committee called around.
14:02 Techrights-sec; three employers which was discovered when the committee called around.
14:02 Techrights-sec; The candidate then threatened to sue if she was not hired. I don't know
14:02 Techrights-sec; The candidate then threatened to sue if she was not hired. I don't know
14:02 Techrights-sec; how that one turned out as I was leaving at the time.
14:02 Techrights-sec; how that one turned out as I was leaving at the time.
14:03 schestowitz-TR; There must be a lot more to the story as it makes little sense on the surface
14:03 schestowitz-TR; There must be a lot more to the story as it makes little sense on the surface
14:03 schestowitz-TR; I was in this situation 3 days ago, so I spoke to Rianne's dad
14:03 schestowitz-TR; I was in this situation 3 days ago, so I spoke to Rianne's dad
14:03 schestowitz-TR; and he clarified what was going on, given the right questions
14:03 schestowitz-TR; and he clarified what was going on, given the right questions
14:03 schestowitz-TR; being asked (regarding a relative)
14:03 schestowitz-TR; being asked (regarding a relative)
14:05 Techrights-sec; Yes it is curious that he is compelled to bring up the subject now, after
14:05 Techrights-sec; Yes it is curious that he is compelled to bring up the subject now, after
14:05 Techrights-sec; so many years have gone by.
14:05 Techrights-sec; :)
14:05 Techrights-sec; so many years have gone by.
14:05 Techrights-sec; :)
14:07 schestowitz-TR; (nb: being a thorn on the side of aggressive lawyers who could not possibly do
14:07 schestowitz-TR; (nb: being a thorn on the side of aggressive lawyers who could not possibly do
14:07 schestowitz-TR; anything to you, with any legal basis, is a bonus in activism ;-) )
14:07 schestowitz-TR; anything to you, with any legal basis, is a bonus in activism ;-) )
14:07 schestowitz-TR; as I said, he did the same to fabsh
14:07 schestowitz-TR; as I said, he did the same to fabsh
14:07 schestowitz-TR; fabsh was livid a
14:07 schestowitz-TR; fabsh was livid a
14:07 schestowitz-TR; and he threatened to take action against me for merely mentioning what Lunduke published
14:07 schestowitz-TR; and then deleted, maybe under a day later
14:07 schestowitz-TR; and he threatened to take action against me for merely mentioning what Lunduke published
14:07 schestowitz-TR; and then deleted, maybe under a day later
14:07 schestowitz-TR; so lunduke might be one of those people with inner fear of germans
14:07 schestowitz-TR; so lunduke might be one of those people with inner fear of germans
14:07 schestowitz-TR; (I cannot totally blame him, in irc we have at least 2 people like that)
14:07 schestowitz-TR; (I cannot totally blame him, in irc we have at least 2 people like that)
14:09 schestowitz-TR; 0/
14:09 schestowitz-TR; 0/
14:09 schestowitz-TR; at some stage I shall do a second video about Debian TM action
14:09 schestowitz-TR; at some stage I shall do a second video about Debian TM action
14:09 schestowitz-TR; but quite likely when the action ends
14:09 schestowitz-TR; but quite likely when the action ends
14:09 schestowitz-TR; in the meantime I use tuxmachines to amass the material
14:09 schestowitz-TR; in the meantime I use tuxmachines to amass the material
14:12 schestowitz-TR; aterial
14:12 schestowitz-TR; aterial
14:12 schestowitz-TR; bottom line is, lunduke adnd libreboot dev are people you should be super-careful inm hiring
14:12 schestowitz-TR; bottom line is, lunduke adnd libreboot dev are people you should be super-careful inm hiring
14:12 schestowitz-TR; because you never know how that might end up
14:12 schestowitz-TR; because you never know how that might end up
14:12 schestowitz-TR; they openly signal this lack of loyalty and I could give other example of very erratic people (Lunduke = ex -MSFT)
14:12 schestowitz-TR; they openly signal this lack of loyalty and I could give other example of very erratic people (Lunduke = ex -MSFT)
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16:04 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.nocturn9x.space/zoobab/status/1524392704553148417#m
16:04 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.nocturn9x.space/zoobab/status/1524392704553148417#m
16:04 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.nocturn9x.space | zoobab "NO Software Patents" (@zoobab): ""International Blackmail Machine (IBM) is still lobbying for software patents and is still weaponising software patents, even in courts; what does that mean for a company like RedHat, which kept assuring us that theres no need to worry about its patents?" http://techrights.org/2022/05/09/big-blue-bully/" | Nocturn9x - Nitter
16:04 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.nocturn9x.space | zoobab "NO Software Patents" (@zoobab): ""International Blackmail Machine (IBM) is still lobbying for software patents and is still weaponising software patents, even in courts; what does that mean for a company like RedHat, which kept assuring us that theres no need to worry about its patents?" http://techrights.org/2022/05/09/big-blue-bully/" | Nocturn9x - Nitter
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17:48 Techrights-sec; yes, lunduke is known to fall into recidivism from time to time, despite
17:48 Techrights-sec; formally having left M$ long ago
17:48 Techrights-sec; yes, lunduke is known to fall into recidivism from time to time, despite
17:48 Techrights-sec; formally having left M$ long ago
18:20 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/03/13/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-4/
18:20 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/03/13/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-4/
18:20 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part IV: The US CLOUD Act Passes Without Public Debate | Techrights
18:20 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part IV: The US CLOUD Act Passes Without Public Debate | Techrights
19:18 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Canonical is ONCE again promoting WINDOWS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164704#comment-33623
19:18 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Canonical is ONCE again promoting WINDOWS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164704#comment-33623
19:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux Machines
19:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux Machines
19:18 schestowitz-TR; worth doing a video on this topic (again)?
19:18 schestowitz-TR; worth doing a video on this topic (again)?
19:18 Techrights-sec; I think so. Especially in light of the staff lineup.
19:18 Techrights-sec; I think so. Especially in light of the staff lineup.
19:19 schestowitz-TR; I know about the IPO talk (liquidation), but did they hire more from Microsoft?
19:19 schestowitz-TR; I know about the IPO talk (liquidation), but did they hire more from Microsoft?
19:19 schestowitz-TR; This author is new to me, I did not check his background, he keeps shilling Windows
19:19 schestowitz-TR; This author is new to me, I did not check his background, he keeps shilling Windows
19:19 schestowitz-TR; after Barnes left the company
19:19 schestowitz-TR; after Barnes left the company
19:19 schestowitz-TR; and the lady with Roy in her name I've not seen in ages, either
19:19 schestowitz-TR; and the lady with Roy in her name I've not seen in ages, either
19:21 schestowitz-TR; "Product Manager"
19:21 schestowitz-TR; "Product Manager"
19:21 schestowitz-TR; His first post Oct 19 2021
19:21 schestowitz-TR; His first post Oct 19 2021
19:22 schestowitz-TR; his name is so generic I'd not find it easy to locate past employment
19:22 schestowitz-TR; Oliver Smith
19:22 schestowitz-TR; with a "twiust"
19:22 schestowitz-TR; his name is so generic I'd not find it easy to locate past employment
19:22 schestowitz-TR; Oliver Smith
19:22 schestowitz-TR; with a "twiust"
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