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00:49 schestowitz-TR; apache not responding
00:49 schestowitz-TR; restarting...
01:54 schestowitz-TR; added tc also to video (latest) page
01:54 schestowitz-TR; made complete backup of tuxmachines /var/www to the new laptop
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10:08 schestowitz-TR; I lost everything you said after gm
10:10 schestowitz-TR; Did you say anything after gm?
10:10 schestowitz-TR; I did not read that, so it was cleared before I could see it
10:10 Techrights-sec; / home/boycottn/bin/get_dbs.sh ?
10:10 Techrights-sec; /home/boycottn/bin/fetch-tm-dump.sh ?
10:10 Techrights-sec; Just that there are some scripts which use myqldump
10:10 Techrights-sec; just about mysqldump and then the above paths
10:13 schestowitz-TR; ah, ok
10:13 schestowitz-TR; hand on...
10:13 schestowitz-TR; *hang on
10:22 schestowitz-TR; it looks like we last ran it last April
10:22 schestowitz-TR; I will give it a go now
10:22 schestowitz-TR; just checked the script one by line
10:22 schestowitz-TR; it ran OK, it moved too fast for me to catch any repairs
10:22 schestowitz-TR; but looking at the log it looks like about once a month
10:22 schestowitz-TR; there is a bit of a struggle with sort #######################################
10:22 schestowitz-TR; maybe that can explain why the DB deflates a bit Ytalk Error #
10:22 schestowitz-TR; and, in this case, does not register every visit
10:22 schestowitz-TR; either way, the core bits are intact
10:22 schestowitz-TR; I spent a lot of time yesterday
10:22 schestowitz-TR; checking tons of things in case this was a symptom of a real issue
10:22 schestowitz-TR; I will keep an eye now on hit counters to see if they're back to how they used to be.
10:22 Techrights-sec; ack
10:24 schestowitz-TR; ftr, as I was saying earlier, it all started when I saw unusually slow number of views
10:24 schestowitz-TR; apachelog made no sense, or rather apache top
10:24 schestowitz-TR; as everything looked normal
10:24 schestowitz-TR; I suspected it was likely some locked up table
10:24 schestowitz-TR; but waited to see the db dump at 5:13am for its side, so went to sleep
10:24 schestowitz-TR; checked to ensure manstodon and stuff all worked OK
10:24 schestowitz-TR; it would be a shame to lose so much data
10:46 Techrights-sec; what is the URL for the counts in question?
10:46 schestowitz-TR; the counts are still shown incorrectly
10:46 schestowitz-TR; I will try flushing out the cache in Drupal
10:46 schestowitz-TR; all pages newer than about 16 hours are affected
10:50 schestowitz-TR; tbh, lAST NIGHT i WENT (MENTALLY) through all sorts of explanation
10:50 schestowitz-TR; also technically checked some
10:50 schestowitz-TR; I could not prove that anyone was unable to access
10:50 schestowitz-TR; so in a sense 'fixing' this is sort of moot
10:50 schestowitz-TR; but the worry was, maybe a sympton
10:50 schestowitz-TR; maybe we can just forget about it, knowing the DB is in OK shape
10:50 schestowitz-TR; there are all sorts of benign explanations I can come up with
10:50 Techrights-sec; ack
10:50 Techrights-sec; did clearing the cache help?
10:50 schestowitz-TR; I dont' regret double checking
10:50 schestowitz-TR; I wopuld have regretted not doing so if later, down the line,
10:50 schestowitz-TR; something happened
10:50 schestowitz-TR; there are almost 170k nodes for 18 years
10:51 schestowitz-TR; I have not tried yet
10:52 schestowitz-TR; but it seems to be catching up now
10:52 schestowitz-TR; there is a time diff between request and drupal db table updating
10:52 schestowitz-TR; for example tuxmachines.org/node/163592
10:52 schestowitz-TR; with www.
10:56 Techrights-sec; thanks
10:59 schestowitz-TR; ok, in tmax now
10:59 schestowitz-TR; see what happened around 11am yesterday
10:59 Techrights-sec; ok
10:59 Techrights-sec; [ERROR] /usr/libexec/mysqld: Sort aborted
11:00 schestowitz-TR; we got those before
11:00 schestowitz-TR; but then innodb had a shutdown
11:02 Techrights-sec; also a "Warning" message too
11:02 Techrights-sec; happens a lot there
11:05 schestowitz-TR; maybe that can happen about once a month but without me noticing
11:05 schestowitz-TR; and maybe I make a big deal out of something that
11:05 schestowitz-TR; is a longstanding weakness
11:05 schestowitz-TR; 11am is not even close to the time I did rsync iirc
11:05 schestowitz-TR; but rsync does not go near the DB anyway
11:05 schestowitz-TR; so I thought this could only be a coincidence
11:05 schestowitz-TR; either way, running db checks once a month would have
11:05 schestowitz-TR; been good practice, which you did suggest in the past
11:05 schestowitz-TR; and general housekeeping for other stuff
11:05 schestowitz-TR; because we rarely study what really happens silently at
11:05 schestowitz-TR; the back end
11:05 Techrights-sec; rsync only affects the filesystem load
11:05 Techrights-sec; and maybe a tiny amount of CPU
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11:24 Techrights-sec; $ ssh boycottn@tuxmachines.org
11:24 Techrights-sec; Unable to negotiate with 23.161.112.115 port 22: no matching host key type found. Their offer: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss
11:24 Techrights-sec; that's a less good error involving fully deprecated, insecure algorithms without
11:24 Techrights-sec; viable alternatives. An upgrade is long overdue since that change was planned
11:24 Techrights-sec; and announced a very long time ago. Can sshd be pulled in from backports?
11:24 schestowitz-TR; one option is turn off ssh and go through the hypervisor, which is alpine
11:24 schestowitz-TR; but that would interfere with DB backups
11:27 Techrights-sec; That's more of a work-around than a real solution.
11:27 Techrights-sec; The backups need SSH
11:44 schestowitz-TR; easter coming up
11:44 schestowitz-TR; I will try to find a good moment to ask kaniini (working
11:44 schestowitz-TR; full time) for a new OS on which to build TM
11:44 schestowitz-TR; re TM,
11:44 schestowitz-TR; I lost a ton of time but have no regrets
11:44 schestowitz-TR; because so much time was poured into that database
11:44 schestowitz-TR; and I'd rather spend a day posting nothing
11:44 schestowitz-TR; just to be sure data is presevred OK
11:44 schestowitz-TR; from what I can gather, this is just optics (looks
11:44 schestowitz-TR; like low view count) but nothing worth messing about with
11:44 schestowitz-TR; and it seems related to innodb, as that started around then
11:44 schestowitz-TR; not the first time it happens based on mysql logs
11:44 Techrights-sec; Yes, prevention is important. At the risk of nagging, what is the timeline
11:44 Techrights-sec; for the OS upgrade?
11:46 schestowitz-TR; this week or weekend I will ask kaniini
11:46 schestowitz-TR; spinning off a new OS should not be too hard, then we can copy across 'www'
11:46 schestowitz-TR; and adding missing packages etc.
11:46 schestowitz-TR; the thing that might be a pain is expectation of old DB version
11:46 schestowitz-TR; but it's a test machine, so no downtime
11:46 Techrights-sec; Thanks!
11:46 Techrights-sec; Thursday - Monday are holidays in various places.
11:47 Techrights-sec; yes, I was just discussing this with rianne
11:47 Techrights-sec; btw, tuxmachines implies tux/linux, so no bsd for OS
11:47 schestowitz-TR; yes, I was just discussing this with rianne
11:47 schestowitz-TR; btw, tuxmachines implies tux/linux, so no bsd for OS
11:47 Techrights-sec; :P
11:48 Techrights-sec; not even GNU/kFreeBSD ?
11:49 schestowitz-TR; from what I remember it is no longer maintained
11:49 schestowitz-TR; figosdev says that devuan quality declined
11:49 schestowitz-TR; debian has a hurd version now
11:50 Techrights-sec; Too bad, it was an interesting experiment which probably helped the GNU pacakges
11:50 Techrights-sec; become more robust. OpenBSD benefits from supporting different hardware
11:50 Techrights-sec; architectures, so I figure the effects would be somewhat similar.
11:50 Techrights-sec; Hurd is getting closer but I don't think anyone is waiting for it or expecting
11:50 Techrights-sec; it any time soon.
11:53 schestowitz-TR; btw, re Daily Links
11:53 schestowitz-TR; at the moment you have commened out the "line" for IRC posting
11:54 schestowitz-TR; Last week I made some changes to speed up posting to IRC
11:54 schestowitz-TR; but
11:54 schestowitz-TR; I guess that's because you do not run interleave before uploading
11:54 schestowitz-TR; as that would add the tags
11:54 schestowitz-TR; and I realised a simple solution is,
11:54 schestowitz-TR; you comment out the tag part at your end
11:54 schestowitz-TR; and I comment out the "line" part
11:54 schestowitz-TR; oh,ok! I can sort it out fully at my end
11:54 schestowitz-TR; by passing it throught interleave when I retreieve it
11:54 schestowitz-TR; then again before posting/finalising
11:54 schestowitz-TR; leave iut at my end, I'll work on that now
11:54 Techrights-sec; yes
11:54 Techrights-sec; right, it would have to be run on your end or else be made much more complex
11:54 Techrights-sec; It'd probably help to be able to move most of the processing up to the TR server
11:54 Techrights-sec; yes
11:54 Techrights-sec; though two runs of interleave should be unnecessary
12:00 schestowitz-TR; there was a severe storm here last week
12:00 schestowitz-TR; we had lots of work to do outside
12:00 schestowitz-TR; I am posting your links in TMK now
12:00 schestowitz-TR; will then work on the Daily Links flow and test that
12:00 schestowitz-TR; I will have to do TONS of patent catchup over Easter
12:00 schestowitz-TR; hopefully migration for TM also
12:01 Techrights-sec; I hope for migration. If there is any way to help or prepare, let me know.
12:05 schestowitz-TR; thanks, you can now see your links at top of TM
12:05 schestowitz-TR; the stats are vanity anyway
12:05 schestowitz-TR; I cannot see evidence of any real harm to data
12:05 schestowitz-TR; so I shall leave it alone
12:05 schestowitz-TR; there is a mismatch between apacghe and drupal counts
12:05 schestowitz-TR; also, of course none of this counts views via front page, RSS feed etc.
12:05 schestowitz-TR; so it's a case of assuring myself the DB was in a good state
12:05 schestowitz-TR; first with the backup
12:05 schestowitz-TR; then scanning it
12:05 schestowitz-TR; OS migration can ameliorate many things
12:05 schestowitz-TR; but it would also be a pain in transitiob
12:05 Techrights-sec; ack
12:05 Techrights-sec; yes
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13:29 schestowitz-TR; i am learning some perl along the way
13:29 schestowitz-TR; but I got stuck
13:29 schestowitz-TR; I am trying to push the "irc line" before <li>
13:29 schestowitz-TR; I tried loads of things
13:29 schestowitz-TR; if I add that version of the file to git, can you hack on it?
13:29 schestowitz-TR; i think it's a one-liner 'fix
13:29 schestowitz-TR; '
13:29 Techrights-sec; sure which file which line number?
13:30 schestowitz; git log --follow -p -- links-interleave-social-control-media.pl
13:30 schestowitz; I looked for hints in the old way social control media line was done
13:30 schestowitz; with it preceding the <li>
13:30 schestowitz; to no avail
13:32 Techrights-sec; sure, which script and which line number
13:33 schestowitz-TR; I've just added my little derivative
13:33 schestowitz-TR; it's already strung onto the file which fetches and then pre-processes daily links
13:34 schestowitz-TR; I tried loads of things to make the line go ahead of/before the <li>
13:36 Techrights-sec; cat -n ...
13:36 Techrights-sec; ack
13:36 schestowitz-TR; add-lines-for-irc.pl
13:36 schestowitz-TR; if you run it against any daily links batch
13:36 schestowitz-TR; you will see the oder
13:36 schestowitz-TR; *order
13:37 Techrights-sec; it's not in Git though.
13:37 Techrights-sec; where can it be found?
13:38 schestowitz-TR; there was a conflict i
13:38 schestowitz-TR; but I think it's there now under Links
13:38 schestowitz-TR; add*
13:41 schestowitz-TR; solved: the finalise [sic] stage
13:41 schestowitz-TR; just pushed timeline.sh
13:41 schestowitz-TR; the addition of lines is in the order order, so I tried in vain to fix that
13:41 Techrights-sec; The way the old tags were done for social control media start at line 102
13:41 Techrights-sec; in that script
13:43 schestowitz-TR; I looked at change history to find how it was done before ( NEWS part before <li>)
13:43 schestowitz-TR; but I suck at this aspect of perl
13:43 schestowitz-TR; or at perl in general
13:48 Techrights-sec; It's mainly XPath work though. That is why it is so important that the
13:48 Techrights-sec; files always validate.
13:48 Techrights-sec; $sc = HTML::Element->new('~literal',
13:48 Techrights-sec; 'text'=>"");
13:48 Techrights-sec; $anchor->preinsert($sc);
13:48 Techrights-sec; what was intended there? If the literal "" is empty the two lines can be removed
13:48 Techrights-sec; (line 111)
13:49 schestowitz-TR; yes, that was just me empyting the tag bit
13:49 schestowitz-TR; it remained in the other file, I didn't mean for this to even go to git,
13:49 schestowitz-TR; I just wanted a little derivative for irc line but no tag added
13:50 schestowitz; <li>
13:50 schestowitz; <!-- https://hackaday.com/2022/04/10/retrotechtacular-a-diy-television-for-very-early-adopters/ Hackaday -->
13:50 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Retrotechtacular: A DIY Television For Very Early Adopters | Hackaday
13:50 schestowitz; <h5><a href="https://hackaday.com/2022/04/10/retrotechtacular-a-diy-television-for-very-early-adopters/">Retrotechtacular: A DIY Television For Very Early Adopters</a></h5>
13:50 Techrights-sec; The loops are not necessarily reqired but mirrror the nested nature of the
13:50 Techrights-sec; HTML elements they affect.
13:50 Techrights-sec; Ah, ok.
13:50 Techrights-sec; Can you paste a sample output?
13:55 Techrights-sec; ok try what's in Git now
13:56 Techrights-sec; Indenting can be added, too, if needed.
13:57 schestowitz; <h3>Instructionals/Technical</h3>
13:57 schestowitz;
13:57 schestowitz; <li>
13:57 schestowitz; "" https://dt.iki.fi/pygments-gallery DT
13:57 schestowitz; <h5><a href="https://dt.iki.fi/pygments-gallery">Pygments style gallery</a></h5>
13:57 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Pygments style gallery | dt.iki.fi
13:57 schestowitz-TR; thanks! Trying...20~
14:00 schestowitz-TR; still the order wherein it's sandwiched
14:00 schestowitz-TR; Indenting was only an issue when I used diaspora
14:00 schestowitz-TR; because there, tabs and spaces were interpreted specially
14:00 schestowitz-TR; yes, what I struggled with was the order
14:00 Techrights-sec; do you want the comment before the LI element?
14:00 Techrights-sec; <!-- ... -->
14:00 Techrights-sec; <li>
14:00 Techrights-sec; <h5><a href ...
14:00 Techrights-sec; It's not linear but a tree.
14:00 Techrights-sec; Just a sec
14:02 schestowitz-TR; yes, I figured that out after wrongly assuming altering the order in the file would yield what I needed
14:02 schestowitz-TR; from where I look, inc. mastodon and diaspora, those network rot away along with FB, "Truth Social" [sic] [sic]
14:02 schestowitz-TR; and Twitter
14:02 schestowitz-TR; I will njever ever explored those again
14:02 Techrights-sec; ok try the one in Git?
14:06 schestowitz-TR; trying now
14:06 schestowitz-TR; btw, last night I did a video on how we'd respond to FUD
14:06 schestowitz-TR; better than before
14:06 schestowitz-TR; oh, puuuurfect!
14:06 schestowitz-TR; inc. indentation, which helps (but was not compatible with diaspora
14:06 schestowitz-TR; )
14:07 schestowitz-TR; I might migrate my account to another instance, but would not use it
14:07 schestowitz-TR; just to preserve the main pod presence
14:07 schestowitz-TR; it's replicated across
14:07 schestowitz-TR; but needs a "master"
14:07 schestowitz-TR; btw, I am making small changes to the file
14:07 schestowitz-TR; to avoid conmflict, I'm saying so, still testing the changes at my end before pushing
14:07 Techrights-sec; excellent
14:07 Techrights-sec; diaspora compatibility is no longer needed afaik
14:07 Techrights-sec; ack
14:07 Techrights-sec; ok
14:11 schestowitz-TR; done, and pushed
14:11 schestowitz-TR; BTW, the reason I was adding the extra newline was
14:11 schestowitz-TR; post-ff.sh assumes up to 5 lines belolw cursor
14:11 schestowitz-TR; so for short items it might grab a line from the next item
14:11 schestowitz-TR; I made it work in a ay that takes advantage of additional screen
14:11 schestowitz-TR; unlike before
14:11 schestowitz-TR; thanks for the help!!
14:11 schestowitz-TR; tuxmachinses works fine, rianne has just cleared her rss feeds
14:11 Techrights-sec; ok
14:11 Techrights-sec; looks workable
14:11 Techrights-sec; np
14:11 Techrights-sec; ack
14:20 schestowitz-TR; I've just cleared drupak cashe
14:20 Techrights-sec; ack
14:21 schestowitz-TR; tuxmachines admin access (just in case)
14:25 Techrights-sec; no https connection?
14:26 schestowitz-TR; this is one reason to move to another OS
14:26 schestowitz-TR; there are countless other issues
14:26 schestowitz-TR; which, based on what I see at work, is a common issue
14:26 schestowitz-TR; but typically hush-hush
14:26 schestowitz-TR; like ancient stuff from 2014 still going
14:26 Techrights-sec; ack
14:27 schestowitz-TR; keeping up wih things is expensive in the short term
14:27 schestowitz-TR; a lot of businesses kick the can down the road
14:27 schestowitz-TR; and threaten people not to talk about it
14:27 schestowitz-TR; even when they have very sensitive data
14:27 schestowitz-TR; and ESP. when so
14:36 Techrights-sec; tested login but passwd was not correct
14:37 Techrights-sec; yes, username xxxxxxxxx, but I have something missing or transposed in the passwd
14:38 schestowitz-TR; if you explore the admin panel of drupal in tuxmachines
14:38 schestowitz-TR; you will find it's neat and friendly
14:38 schestowitz-TR; not easy to break
14:38 schestowitz-TR; no JS afaik
14:38 schestowitz-TR; (not yet)
14:38 schestowitz-TR; you can even see recent activity in some page
14:38 schestowitz-TR; I am trying to understand if the "access" DB table was at fault
14:38 schestowitz-TR; yes, I checked 5 tiems over
14:38 schestowitz-TR; and tested on the new machines just now
14:38 schestowitz-TR; username
14:43 schestowitz-TR; to avoid false impression of low view counts
14:43 schestowitz-TR; I've meanwhile made those numbers visible only to admins
14:43 schestowitz-TR; I checked the password many times, I will enter it by hand now just to be sure
14:48 schestowitz-TR; when I enter it manually I fail
14:48 schestowitz-TR; not when I copy
14:48 schestowitz-TR; so maybe soe phantom char somewhere
14:48 schestowitz-TR; I am going to to paste it in tmux terminal
14:54 schestowitz-TR; I pasted with carriage return by accident
14:54 schestowitz-TR; not for that one needs root bash_history
14:54 schestowitz-TR; so no worries, no needf to history -c
14:54 schestowitz-TR; oh wait
14:54 schestowitz-TR; the 3 trailing lll are wrong
14:54 schestowitz-TR; I was testinmg to see if it was really an l
14:55 Techrights-sec; ack
14:55 Techrights-sec; possible
14:55 Techrights-sec; ack
14:57 schestowitz-TR; hopefully that will work not, with it being copied
14:57 schestowitz-TR; I'm going to work my way through quiterss now
14:57 schestowitz-TR; the "microsoft loves linux" charade slowed down a bit
14:57 schestowitz-TR; so it's meaning less "strife" and more positive stuf
15:04 schestowitz-TR; it fails when I copy it from what you paste
15:04 schestowitz-TR; but works when I copy-paste from my notes
15:05 Techrights-sec; xxxx
15:05 Techrights-sec; "xxxx" is wrong
15:05 Techrights-sec; ?can you past your notes here again, do not transcribe, just paste
15:05 Techrights-sec; there must be a difference somewhere
15:06 schestowitz-TR; can you see it in tmux?
15:07 Techrights-sec; looking
15:07 Techrights-sec; 4 and 5 were transposed
15:07 Techrights-sec; yep, works,
15:08 schestowitz-TR; I think I know why
15:08 schestowitz-TR; my bad
15:08 schestowitz-TR; I changed that
15:08 schestowitz-TR; to keep out you know who
15:08 schestowitz-TR; not because of argument
15:08 schestowitz-TR; it's just a matter of secrity
15:08 schestowitz-TR; after 8 years
15:08 schestowitz-TR; so I have in my notes two passwords
15:08 schestowitz-TR; they look almost the same
15:13 Techrights-sec; in 2 years, TM will be 29
15:13 Techrights-sec; ^20
15:13 Techrights-sec; logging out so as not to break anything by accident
15:13 Techrights-sec; login worked
15:16 schestowitz-TR; I've just looked at early IRC logs.
15:16 schestowitz-TR; I started in 2008
15:16 schestowitz-TR; many early users were from usenet
15:16 Techrights-sec; interesting. Usenet was great but could not survive a concerted onslaught by
15:16 Techrights-sec; corporate shills, spammers, and astroturfers
15:21 schestowitz-TR; I am going to change TM password now
15:21 schestowitz-TR; knowing that oiver the years
15:21 schestowitz-TR; many http connections were made to that account
15:21 schestowitz-TR; try
15:23 Techrights-sec; ack
15:23 Techrights-sec; trying
15:23 Techrights-sec; it worked
15:23 schestowitz-TR; total irc logs for irc in my xchat directory: 2.6 gb
15:23 schestowitz-TR; going back to 2008
15:34 Techrights-sec; is there a standard format for the iRC logs or does each chat client have its own?
15:34 Techrights-sec; ok
15:35 schestowitz-TR; good question
15:35 schestowitz-TR; kaniiniw ould know best
15:35 schestowitz-TR; as he made the prpottocol in part
15:35 schestowitz-TR; bbut I think there is no uniform format
15:35 schestowitz-TR; which in turn begets issues
15:35 schestowitz-TR; and this is why I ustill use the 3 forks of xchat
15:41 Techrights-sec; maybe the can be normalized to work with just the latest one?
15:42 schestowitz-TR; I struggle to even keep up with the story of forks, bracnhes and shootofss of the projects
15:42 schestowitz-TR; they have UI and feature variation
15:48 Techrights-sec; yes
15:57 schestowitz-TR; [15:56] <techrights-news> But Bitcoin was never about anonymity anyway https://www.wired.com/story/tracers-in-the-dark-welcome-to-video-crypto-anonymity-myth/ so now Conde Nast (Wall Street) associated this with assault on children? Even though it's not about privacy at all?
15:57 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Inside the Bitcoin Bust That Took Down the Webs Biggest Child Abuse Site | WIRED
15:57 schestowitz-TR; Schneier links to tons of Conde Nast lately
15:57 schestowitz-TR; even outright lies
15:58 schestowitz-TR; Big Banks and Apple and the UK gov. uses the same strategy
15:58 schestowitz-TR; I don't have to be a bitcoin fan to call BS
15:59 schestowitz-TR; as if pedos don't pay with cash or even card or even standing order
15:59 schestowitz-TR; that's like Microsoft pretending security is a "open source" issue
16:00 Techrights-sec; I was just looking at his blog and also was disappointed. Hes still at the EFF
16:00 Techrights-sec; and should have had a more positive influence than he has had.
16:00 Techrights-sec; he seems to just shill for the most part in recent years
16:00 Techrights-sec; the governement via lobbyists and proxies, has started playing along with M$ and
16:00 Techrights-sec; come down on the Java library's users but have left M$ deployments uncriticized
16:00 schestowitz-TR; he also links a lot to FDBI, USDOJ etc.
16:00 schestowitz-TR; even the whole RUSHA thing
16:00 schestowitz-TR; If I wanted that, I know wqhere ti look
16:00 Techrights-sec; ack
16:04 schestowitz-TR; well such if life
16:04 schestowitz-TR; you try to do the right thing
16:04 schestowitz-TR; it does not pay well
16:04 schestowitz-TR; not as much as being a bastard anyway
16:04 schestowitz-TR; I guess this is universally and perpetually valid/applicable
16:04 schestowitz-TR; meanwhile, Michel wrote some posts about this
16:04 schestowitz-TR; like the Microsoft-centric "ransomware" task force
16:04 schestowitz-TR; and how it was composed
16:04 Techrights-sec; probably
16:04 Techrights-sec; it should be composed of teams of people with drives for /data/ backup and USB
16:04 Techrights-sec; sticks containing Linux Mint installation images.
16:12 schestowitz-TR; LMDE (latest) is quite nice
16:12 schestowitz-TR; going to make a teapot
16:12 schestowitz-TR; catching up with rss today
16:12 schestowitz-TR; we got lolts done
16:12 schestowitz-TR; even if mostly code and lots of testingh
16:12 Techrights-sec; yes
16:12 Techrights-sec; I'm not sure how many 1000 RSS feeds are in QuiteRSS here.
16:12 schestowitz-TR; which was well oversue and weill pay dividends
16:17 schestowitz-TR; as time goes by, to get x new items
16:17 schestowitz-TR; you need yx2 or yx3 feeds
16:17 schestowitz-TR; not sure how to count planets
16:17 schestowitz-TR; as I keep saying, planets are dangerous
16:17 schestowitz-TR; they are censorship mechanisms
16:17 schestowitz-TR; like social control media
16:17 schestowitz-TR; best to also avoid mitm like feedburner
16:17 schestowitz-TR; for reasons
16:17 schestowitz-TR; that became apparent thisd year
16:17 schestowitz-TR; people assume they follow you because "you are in the planewt"
16:17 schestowitz-TR; but that's like thinking the same because "follow you in twitteer"
16:17 schestowitz-TR; twitter is worse because it doesn't even pretend to be neutral anymore
16:17 schestowitz-TR; it's curated
16:17 schestowitz-TR; same for gulagtube
16:17 schestowitz-TR; which changed its reminder emails like a decade ago
16:17 schestowitz-TR; so it gets deto decide ahat you 'need' to watch
16:17 schestowitz-TR; not what you asked for
16:18 Techrights-sec; yes it has been like that
16:18 Techrights-sec; I don't track any planets for that reason, they are a total waste of time
16:18 Techrights-sec; BBBBBBBBB
16:18 Techrights-sec; politicians mistakenly seem to think that they can use social control media
16:18 Techrights-sec; when it is the other way around and they actually end up losing
16:20 schestowitz-TR; bat and switch
16:20 schestowitz-TR; you are not gulag
16:21 schestowitz-TR; you are not the admin of the plenet
16:21 schestowitz-TR; heck, the planet can be taken down
16:21 schestowitz-TR; for someone else's reasons
16:21 schestowitz-TR; plenet is like a web-based rss reader you merely subscriibe to]
16:21 schestowitz-TR; and so it sort of defeats the purpose or raison detre of the protpcols
16:21 schestowitz-TR; it's likle saying, I'll subscribe only to CNN
16:21 schestowitz-TR; where the "Planet CNN" is just the list of CNN members of stuff
16:21 schestowitz-TR; while CCNN still employs them
16:21 schestowitz-TR; that's what planets ghenerally are
16:21 schestowitz-TR; sans the salary
16:21 Techrights-sec; yes, the planets end up usually being a misuse of the protocol, at least
16:21 Techrights-sec; going against the original purpose of having a distributed, decentralized
16:21 Techrights-sec; service.
16:24 schestowitz-TR; you know, the most bizarre thing is,.
16:24 schestowitz-TR; nobody else that I know of even speaks about it
16:24 schestowitz-TR; same for video hosting
16:24 schestowitz-TR; they say move from platform A to B
16:24 schestowitz-TR; or gmail to...
16:24 schestowitz-TR; but they seem to be missing the point
16:24 schestowitz-TR; don't get me started on mastodon lol!
16:24 schestowitz-TR; I lost 3 accounts
16:24 schestowitz-TR; tuxmachines lost 1, has one left
16:24 schestowitz-TR; since it started in 2017
16:24 schestowitz-TR; so 80% are dead in 5 years
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16:34 Techrights-sec; ack
16:34 Techrights-sec; high attrition rate
16:34 Techrights-sec; Digg sucked, they censors ODF material from the start
16:34 schestowitz-TR; take my word for it
16:34 schestowitz-TR; I startted with Digg
16:34 schestowitz-TR; while also on usenet
16:35 schestowitz-TR; on the prawl
16:35 schestowitz-TR; this whole phenomenon
16:35 schestowitz-TR; Reddit included(coexisted with Digg)
16:35 schestowitz-TR; is mostly propped up by a false, faked perception iof traffic
16:35 schestowitz-TR; they optimise for this delusion
16:35 schestowitz-TR; likle wall street with its valuation bubbles
16:35 schestowitz-TR; many instances die because their admis (like drew devault 2 years ago, then
16:35 schestowitz-TR; distro.toot) see that it's a waste of their time
16:36 Techrights-sec; Reddit is a scam perpetrated by Conde Nast
16:36 Techrights-sec; It is for marketing and mass manipulation of opinion regarding ICT
16:36 Techrights-sec; When /. took a big downturn as aftermath of sale to scum, Reddit lied their
16:36 Techrights-sec; way forth to a user base. Now they just delete and shadowban their way towards
16:37 Techrights-sec; the M$ agenda. Nothing good can be said about Reddit
16:37 schestowitz-TR; we had a long irc discussion aboout redditr this past weekend
16:37 Techrights-sec; what was the conclusion there?
16:38 schestowitz-TR; there were several, but it's 'turfed basically
16:38 schestowitz-TR; and those who call out thwe BS get vanished
16:38 schestowitz-TR; and gaslit
16:38 Techrights-sec; yep
16:42 schestowitz-TR; DT has a love/hate relationship with lesser alts
16:42 schestowitz-TR; same as lunduke
16:42 schestowitz-TR; "hey I'm moving to gemini, this is great"
16:42 schestowitz-TR; "hey let's do mastodon, self-hosted"
16:42 schestowitz-TR; "hey, let's leave youtube"
16:42 schestowitz-TR; but they later come back where they came
16:42 schestowitz-TR; and each time with less impact than before
16:42 schestowitz-TR; and the principles are severely compromised
16:42 schestowitz-TR; reinforcing this idea that you cannot truly quit
16:42 schestowitz-TR; lunduke ended up being canceled mainly in twitter afaik
16:42 schestowitz-TR; he should have stayed away the first time around
16:42 schestowitz-TR; it's some dumb think he said after getting infected
16:42 Techrights-sec; I only listen to about half of his videos
16:42 Techrights-sec; Lunduke has vanished from the net.
16:42 Techrights-sec; Dt is not 100% reliable
16:42 Techrights-sec; yes he kept trying to come back to twitter, I suspect addiction
16:42 Techrights-sec; I wonder how many IQ points the virus took out of him.
16:46 schestowitz-TR; ^_^
16:46 schestowitz-TR; Lunduke said he needed to come back to Twitter after his Jan 1 2020 resolutioln
16:46 schestowitz-TR; for COVID UPDATE!!!
16:46 schestowitz-TR; Yes, nothing except Twitter disseminates information about COVID!!
16:46 schestowitz-TR; ^_^
16:46 schestowitz-TR; "I neweed twitter back!!@ FOR MY SAFEWTY!!"
16:46 schestowitz-TR; (and my family's)
16:46 schestowitz-TR; you and I talked back thenm how dumb the (non)logic of that was
16:46 schestowitz-TR; her's like my boss lying to clients all the time
16:46 schestowitz-TR; tro save face
16:46 schestowitz-TR; I want to jump in and tell him
16:46 schestowitz-TR; "come on, just be honest to them"
16:46 schestowitz-TR; but... they're not THOSE kidnds of peopople
16:46 schestowitz-TR; management seems to be 90% bullishit
16:46 schestowitz-TR; 10% substance
16:46 schestowitz-TR; anmd this is what you can be promoted for
16:46 schestowitz-TR; because the people deciding youir promotion are 99% bullshit
16:47 schestowitz-TR; 1% subnstance
16:47 schestowitz-TR; so you can join them, and work your way close to 100%
16:47 Techrights-sec; and filtered algorithmically, the rest are gullible fools manipulated by
16:47 Techrights-sec; aforementioned algorithmic sorting
16:48 schestowitz-TR; I think we should adopt words like "herded"
16:48 schestowitz-TR; ratjher than manipulated
16:48 schestowitz-TR; because that helps convey how people like Musk and Gates perceive
16:48 schestowitz-TR; such platforms
16:48 schestowitz-TR; herding consumers and peasants
16:48 schestowitz-TR; sharecropping
16:49 Techrights-sec; farming, herding, etc
16:49 Techrights-sec; yes, sharecropping. though those trying to build services and products using
16:49 Techrights-sec; M$ "technologies" are closer to sharecroppers.
16:50 schestowitz-TR; they go into debt faster, in a bigger way, and are less likely to get out of it
16:50 schestowitz-TR; because of long-ter m liabilities or TCO
16:50 schestowitz-TR; and the pace of losses increases more rapidly
16:50 schestowitz-TR; that's why many such businesses fail
16:50 schestowitz-TR; if they grow, the costs scale badly
16:50 schestowitz-TR; like patent royalties
16:52 Techrights-sec; yep -- sharecropping
16:52 Techrights-sec; yes, though the food prices are going to increase greatly several times during
16:52 Techrights-sec; the next year as the various crises make their effects known
16:52 Techrights-sec; ack
16:54 schestowitz-TR; rianne went out to hunt for bargain fods
16:54 schestowitz-TR; we reckon the best way to prepare is to lessen the expenses
16:54 schestowitz-TR; esp. now that food prices go up
16:54 schestowitz-TR; the energy bill we got today was almost 100 for the month
16:54 schestowitz-TR; gas+elc, 2 people, 50 each
16:54 schestowitz-TR; it was about 60 6 years ago
16:54 schestowitz-TR; but we also showered in the gym
16:54 schestowitz-TR; so that's still a steep increases
16:54 schestowitz-TR; for families wqith kids and heating it can be 250 a month
16:55 schestowitz-TR; you do of course realise many energy companies and food growers were subsidised by taxpayers up
16:55 schestowitz-TR; until now to keep the peasants from revolting
16:55 schestowitz-TR; it was a hidden tax
16:55 schestowitz-TR; weheat, oil etc.
16:55 schestowitz-TR; with growping fianancial liabilities they can no longer hide th e tru cost of living
16:55 Techrights-sec; ack
16:56 schestowitz-TR; "our system is so great... we keep borrowing money from taxpayers to buy cheap food and energy for them
16:56 schestowitz-TR; and to purify water we need energy toio"
16:56 schestowitz-TR; "we let them fly cheaply this way so everyone gets their nlifestyle weekend flight to spain"
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16:57 Techrights-sec; yes, they cannot hide the true costs of living and recent astronomical increases
16:57 Techrights-sec; but they do have social control media to shift blame to designated targets
16:57 Techrights-sec; note the current French elections in that regards
16:57 Techrights-sec; flights ought to be vastly reduced, since there is virtually no other lifestyle
16:57 Techrights-sec; change which one can make, even with great effort, to compensate for and offset
16:57 Techrights-sec; the environmental damage that even a single flight causes
16:59 schestowitz-TR; I've not left the country since berlin (my birthday, 018) adn have not left the city since 2020 (Sheffield)
16:59 schestowitz-TR; to rianne it's starting to get a little difficult after 2 years
16:59 schestowitz-TR; in 2 mins we get the latest corona numbers
16:59 schestowitz-TR; I heard on the radio this morning (yes, decided to torture myself with FM)
16:59 schestowitz-TR; that there si a sharp increase
16:59 schestowitz-TR; so even the national broadcasters quiut pretending
17:01 schestowitz-TR; I envy people who manage to avoid flying
17:01 schestowitz-TR; trhere is often pressure from family members iof not shitty friends
17:01 schestowitz-TR; who still think "phone ownership" or "drtiving" or "flying FAR away"
17:01 schestowitz-TR; is a measure of social status, success etc.
17:01 schestowitz-TR; now every janitor has some "smart" phone
17:01 schestowitz-TR; not that janitors have a "lesser" job
17:03 Techrights-sec; it's a rather important job and about 10^6 times more useful than MBAs and most
17:03 Techrights-sec; managers, futhermore unlike those other two it is honest work
17:03 Techrights-sec; unfortunately it no longer pays a living wage despite its necessity in a
17:03 Techrights-sec; well-functioning society
17:03 schestowitz-TR; elop got a BONUS!
17:03 Techrights-sec; his bonus was contingent upon destroying the company and its product line
17:05 schestowitz-TR; to hell with "products"
17:05 schestowitz-TR; that SOB destroyed the lives of many families of engineers
17:05 schestowitz-TR; who had done productive things
17:05 Techrights-sec; the lives of a great many employees were overturned as a result of his
17:05 schestowitz-TR; not just on phoneres
17:05 schestowitz-TR; but plent of telecom innovation for decades
17:05 schestowitz-TR; befoire elop even went to college
17:05 Techrights-sec; despicable damage
17:05 Techrights-sec; https://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2011/08/coining-term-elop-effect-when-you-combine-osborne-effect-and-ratner-effect.html
17:05 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-communities-dominate.blogs.com | Communities Dominate Brands: Coining Term: "Elop Effect" when you combine Osborne Effect and Ratner Effect
17:08 schestowitz-TR; some went to jolla and made sailfishOPS
17:08 schestowitz-TR; but Microsoft basically bought the powwefful brand
17:08 schestowitz-TR; so people are not likely to go to stores asking for "jollo"ade anotherddddddddff
17:09 schestowitz-TR; sorru my upstream went dire
17:09 schestowitz-TR; maybe it's the pi changing tc settings :-)
17:09 Techrights-sec; one of the apparent intended side effects of gutting the company was to
17:09 Techrights-sec; turn those skilled, experienced staff out onto the street
17:09 Techrights-sec; what remains is farcically hierarchicaly and ossified, not to mention there
17:09 Techrights-sec; are *very* few remanin pockets of skilled staff
17:09 Techrights-sec; once you've culled the knowledge pool enough, the best do not have enough peers
17:10 Techrights-sec; in their or neighboring fields and cannot be retained.
17:10 Techrights-sec; bought + shutdown
17:10 Techrights-sec; they make routers or something now but no phones
17:10 schestowitz-TR; yahoo and novell used to make products
17:10 schestowitz-TR; yahoo still had my geocities site
17:10 schestowitz-TR; when microsoft and icahn started attacking
17:12 Techrights-sec; Icahn and M$ went after Yahoo to damage, among other things, FreeBSD
17:14 schestowitz-TR; (checking latest covid data, to write report and then share it ith riuanne)
17:14 schestowitz-TR; (billBC is not informing, it's propaganda for "the economy" (riuch peopole))
17:14 schestowitz-TR; netflix still uses freebsd
17:14 schestowitz-TR; and afaik the ceo or a co-=founder had come from microsoft
17:14 Techrights-sec; that is because it is a company of microsofters and they 1) have to have
17:14 Techrights-sec; a working infrastructute, 2) would go to the most extreme lengths to avoid
17:14 Techrights-sec; GNU/Linux. They'd use NetBSD if they had to, or even Haiku, just as long
17:15 Techrights-sec; as they can avoid GNU
17:15 schestowitz-TR; hotmail did the same even before being hijacked by microsoft
17:15 schestowitz-TR; where is hiootmail today?>
17:19 Techrights-sec; hotmail started on freebsd but M$ tried several times to port it to NT
17:19 Techrights-sec; I think the 4th or 5th attempt kind of worked but by that time they had learned
17:19 Techrights-sec; to be quiet about the migration. Though they never learn, such as what happened
17:19 Techrights-sec; to Sampo Pankki in Finland way back in the 00's They shot their mouths off
17:19 Techrights-sec; and then the migration failed fast and hard and the outages lasted months
17:19 schestowitz-TR; holy shit!
17:19 schestowitz-TR; over 500 deathss
17:19 schestowitz-TR; afer they added another 2700'missing' deaths last week
17:19 schestowitz-TR; 45% increase in one week
17:19 schestowitz-TR; this is worse thasn in 2020
17:19 schestowitz-TR; "go watch football, lads"
17:19 Techrights-sec; where? context?
17:19 Techrights-sec; ah ,the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic
17:19 schestowitz-TR; "ladies, go shopping"
17:21 schestowitz-TR; the one that AstraZeneca and Pfizer "killed" last year
17:21 schestowitz-TR; eradicated, just like the testing rates here
17:21 schestowitz-TR; they ended it last month
17:21 schestowitz-TR; all that testing is bad for ratings of Borisnaro
17:21 schestowitz-TR; I will do a post about this
17:21 Techrights-sec; ack
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18:45 Techrights-sec; https://schestowitz.com/ ?
18:45 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com | NO TITLE
18:45 schestowitz-TR; I have not enabled it
18:45 Techrights-sec; ack
18:46 schestowitz-TR; my home network became super-slow
18:46 schestowitz-TR; I've installed some tools to find the culprit
18:46 schestowitz-TR; but it might just be ipfs again
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18:51 Techrights-sec; ack
18:51 Techrights-sec; tcpdump?
18:53 schestowitz-TR; I am not even sure which machine is at fault, it started getting very bad a few hours agfo
18:54 Techrights-sec; wireless or ethernet?
18:54 schestowitz-TR; only the ip phone is ethernet
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18:57 Techrights-sec; there could be RF interference too / instead then :(
18:58 Techrights-sec; If it's not RF interference then you might try some netflow analyzer
18:58 Techrights-sec; ntop or flowscan might be ok,
18:58 Techrights-sec; noction was disparaged in IRC the other day
19:07 schestowitz-TR; I've just temprarily shut down ipfs
19:07 schestowitz-TR; my home though was to see it was not culprit
19:07 schestowitz-TR; I already checked its usage earlier
19:07 schestowitz-TR; and it wasn't likely at fault
19:07 schestowitz-TR; the theory that lowering shields with the new script did not pass muster
19:07 schestowitz-TR; now it is off and my connectuion is still very slow
19:07 schestowitz-TR; a lot of things timing out
19:07 schestowitz-TR; cannot refresh rss
19:08 Techrights-sec; about the RF interference, one possibility if you are on the 2.4 GHz band is
19:08 Techrights-sec; radiation from a neighbor's wifi or appliance. If the former, you can scan for
19:08 Techrights-sec; wireless networks and check if there is *anything* on a channel other than
19:08 Techrights-sec; 1, 6, or 11. If so, then that's probably the cause. If you are on the 5 GHz
19:08 Techrights-sec; band, which your should be, then the RF question is harder to solve.
19:08 Techrights-sec; I see
19:08 Techrights-sec; sudo iwlist wlan0 scan | less
19:08 Techrights-sec; sudo iwlist wlan0 scan | grep -Ei 'channel|address|signal|essid'
19:10 Techrights-sec; The raspberry pi can handle 5 GHz channels. Not sure about the older hardware
19:10 Techrights-sec; you might have though.
19:14 schestowitz-TR; I cannot believe I am back to this
19:14 schestowitz-TR; for over a year it was fine
19:14 schestowitz-TR; ipfs is def. not the culprit
19:14 schestowitz-TR; I will check another way
19:16 Techrights-sec; are there other wifi networks in range?
19:22 Techrights-sec; try changing your 2.4GHz channel from 11 to 6 or 1 and your 5GHz channel
19:22 Techrights-sec; from 36 to anything else
19:23 schestowitz-TR; wait, here is the stramnnge thing
19:23 schestowitz-TR; the pi can get megabytes going
19:23 schestowitz-TR; the other machines barely anything
19:23 schestowitz-TR; I want to try and see a few thins
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19:32 schestowitz-TR; I can lower the pi from about 4mb/min to 400k a miniute
19:32 schestowitz-TR; but the other machines are still slow
19:32 schestowitz-TR; I don't understand why it can get those rates at all
19:32 schestowitz-TR; even the pi making outbound connection seems rather slow
19:32 Techrights-sec; /tmp/scan.log
19:32 Techrights-sec; are the slow machines on 2.4GHz ?
19:32 Techrights-sec; strength has nothing to do with interference two strong signals on overlapping
19:32 Techrights-sec; channels will destroy eachother
19:33 schestowitz-TR; same outcome also on rianne's laptop
19:33 schestowitz-TR; 2400
19:33 schestowitz-TR; strong signal strength
19:35 Techrights-sec; try changing your 2.4GHz channel from 11 to 6 or 1 and your 5GHz channel
19:35 Techrights-sec; from 36 to anything else
19:37 schestowitz-TR; wish me luckj
19:38 schestowitz-TR; changed settings
19:38 schestowitz-TR; may need to reconnect
19:38 schestowitz-TR; don;'t reply in ther meantime
19:38 schestowitz-TR; as much may follow in terms of chores
19:38 Techrights-sec; also turn off "band steering" while in there, if it is on
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19:49 schestowitz-TR; this is a latest test
19:49 schestowitz-TR; 2.4 ch6, 5 ch40
19:49 schestowitz-TR; \\]
19:49 schestowitz-TR; still high latency and not much bandwidth
19:49 Techrights-sec; seems a little more responsive though on the SSH connection to the RPi
19:49 Techrights-sec; but not much
19:49 Techrights-sec; ls
19:55 schestowitz-TR; so far I see no real improvements
19:55 schestowitz-TR; it all just started out of nowhere about 4 hours ago
19:55 schestowitz-TR; all the machines are still slow
19:55 schestowitz-TR; and with some I can see the channel changes
19:55 schestowitz-TR; so OI assume it helps rule out signal interference
19:56 Techrights-sec; from other channels, yes, but there are a great many other sources of RF
19:57 Techrights-sec; trouble
19:57 Techrights-sec; microwaves, etc
20:00 schestowitz-TR; gn
20:00 schestowitz-TR; I will get to the bottom of it, eventually and find some way to remain almost productive
20:46 schestowitz-TR; i found the issue
20:46 schestowitz-TR; it was
20:46 schestowitz-TR; my fault
20:46 schestowitz-TR; i opened very old irc log files
20:46 schestowitz-TR; then saved to one
20:46 schestowitz-TR; 14 years of it
20:46 schestowitz-TR; as a result
20:46 schestowitz-TR; the tail that does irc status
20:46 schestowitz-TR; basically tailed like 130mb into it
20:46 schestowitz-TR; it tries to upload this file every 5 minutes
20:46 schestowitz-TR; so you can guess what this resulted in
20:46 schestowitz-TR; should i change back the channels
20:46 schestowitz-TR; or is it OK to keep them as they are?
20:46 schestowitz-TR; any benefit to this pair of settings?
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