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beginning of new day, March 11

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3 AM, March 11

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4 AM, March 11

04:22 schestowitz-pi2; <techrights-news> Wow! MIT "technologyreview" now works with banksters on propaganda and spam mills. Terrible. technologyreview is dead; it does the same with Microsoft. Then again, MIT also enabled Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Gates. Bottomless pit. https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/03/09/1067046/building-the-future-of-banking/

↺ https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/03/09/1067046/building-the-future-of-banking/

04:22 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.technologyreview.com | Building the future of banking | MIT Technology Review

04:23 techrights[sec]; MIT is up to its ears in Epstein-Gates money and politics

04:23 techrights[sec]; They would not have framed RMS otherwise

04:23 techrights[sec]; one would hope at least that it was "only" corruption

04:23 techrights[sec]; at work

04:25 schestowitz-pi2; rms ddg e-mail: no response yet, i will press agaiu if needed

04:25 schestowitz-pi2; fsf cannot just pretend that ddg is not a problem

04:25 schestowitz-pi2; and even say it's ok to use that

04:25 schestowitz-pi2; rms is giving a talk in 6 or 5 days

04:38 techrights[sec]; An equally big problem as the DDG scene is that the FSF is not involved

04:38 techrights[sec]; in the so-caled "cybersecurity" negotiations going on around the world at

04:38 techrights[sec]; the moment. Maybe the experts are keeping a low profile but none have

04:38 techrights[sec]; blogged about it and all indications are that it is a festival for lobbyists

04:38 techrights[sec]; from trash firms with terrible track records on quality and security.

04:38 techrights[sec]; It seems that they are doubling down on back doors and don't give a rat's asshole that beligerants have no prob

04:38 techrights[sec]; lem getting in as long as they themselve can

04:38 techrights[sec]; get in easily.

04:39 schestowitz-pi2; it is framed like back doors are NEEDED for national security

04:39 schestowitz-pi2; of course it was pointed out sooner or later everyone can leevrage back doors

04:39 schestowitz-pi2; anyway, fsf needs to be more vocal

04:39 schestowitz-pi2; their blog is mostly, come on [date] to librea.chat to talk about some stuff

04:42 techrights[sec]; Yes, see CALEA and CALEA2, both of which legislate backdoors. The matter

04:42 techrights[sec]; however is that these mandate backdoors for anyone, anywhere to get in not

04:42 techrights[sec]; just "the good guys".

04:42 techrights[sec]; There are a lot of laws in the works around the world which will effectively

04:42 techrights[sec]; ban use of FOSS in practice anywhere and in all contexts.

04:42 techrights[sec]; CoCs help set that up.

04:42 techrights[sec]; by paralyzng the communities and tearing down any one who might stand up

04:42 techrights[sec]; for FOSS in the negotiations.

04:42 schestowitz-pi2; can't be "rude" to people who do terrible things

04:42 schestowitz-pi2; on the payroll of criminal firms

04:43 techrights[sec]; It is "rude" to even object to the terrible things in the first place. CoC blocked

04:47 schestowitz-pi2; highlighting the danger of censorship of critics is a CoC violation

04:47 schestowitz-pi2; either way, notice how low-profile (quiet) LF has been

04:47 schestowitz-pi2; rianne and I realise they know public opinion is strongly against them

04:55 schestowitz-pi2; <techrights-news> Phoronix openwashing a proprietary surveillance and mental assault company: "TikTok Owner Bytedance Goes Big On Open-Source Firmware" https://www.phoronix.com/news/Bytedance-CloudFW-Open-Source

↺ https://www.phoronix.com/news/Bytedance-CloudFW-Open-Source

04:55 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-TikTok Owner Bytedance Goes Big On Open-Source Firmware - Phoronix

04:56 techrights[sec]; LF has been actively working against FOSS in general and against Linux specifically

04:56 techrights[sec]; Sadly they've earned a dislike from the public, even people not in the know

04:56 techrights[sec]; can see through their behaviors and Zemlin is only digging the hole deeper

04:56 techrights[sec]; apparently on purpose.


5 AM, March 11

05:00 schestowitz-pi2; Linux Patch Updated For Rumble Support On Latest Microsoft Xbox Controllers https://www.phoronix.com/news/Xbox-Controller-Rumble-Linux-v2

↺ https://www.phoronix.com/news/Xbox-Controller-Rumble-Linux-v2

05:00 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Linux Patch Updated For Rumble Support On Latest Microsoft Xbox Controllers - Phoronix

05:01 schestowitz-pi2; soon cited and repeated by microsofters at sites like neowin

05:01 schestowitz-pi2; linux.... MICROSOFT. YAY, NEWS!

05:01 schestowitz-pi2; microsofters learned to like phoronix and send traffic to it

05:01 techrights[sec]; yes he sold out as we've commented for a while

05:03 schestowitz-pi2; again, i did not even click, i just see this in Kate, but I did also see some "linux"

05:03 schestowitz-pi2; sections in microsoft sites covering the same

05:03 schestowitz-pi2; phoronix helps them with some benchmarks that say Linux is slow

05:03 schestowitz-pi2; they link to those

05:03 schestowitz-pi2; maybe he just writes for traffic's sake, but

05:03 schestowitz-pi2; 1) what aboutt principles

05:03 schestowitz-pi2; 2) at what overall cost?

05:06 techrights[sec]; I don't click on Phronix links any more, not even once since he sold out to m$

05:06 techrights[sec]; Probably

05:06 techrights[sec]; microsofters don't care about how phoronix ends or when it ends, just that

05:06 techrights[sec]; it can be exploited for their own goals for a while

05:06 techrights[sec]; BTW cURL is having an even on "Zoom" instead of BigBlueButton

05:06 techrights[sec]; wtf?

05:06 techrights[sec]; Even Jitsi-Meet would be a better choice than "Zoom"

05:06 schestowitz-pi2; daniel stenberg doesn't give a shit about freedoim

05:06 schestowitz-pi2; if he chose BBB I'd go, wow, not bad...

05:08 techrights[sec]; I have noticed that in his blogs;

05:09 techrights[sec]; Few get FOSS. If you saw the panel discussion hosted by Rossmann the other day

05:09 techrights[sec]; there was no clue until the last few seconds of the video and rather than

05:09 techrights[sec]; exploring that, they ended the video. Nearly 100% of the population is in the

05:09 techrights[sec]; 1980s mind set of "selling" software.

05:13 schestowitz-pi2; brb protein

05:13 schestowitz-pi2; very interesting discussion btw

05:20 schestowitz-pi2; not many sites are left that speak the language of community and of SF in general

05:20 schestowitz-pi2; not that there were many such sites before

05:20 schestowitz-pi2; but now veyr few are left and they are barely active

05:20 techrights[sec]; Futhermore, several high visibility institutions have done 180-degree turns

05:20 techrights[sec]; and now actively or passively work against their own interests. LF, EFF, FSF,

05:20 techrights[sec]; FSFE, etc

05:21 schestowitz-pi2; rms seems to be belittling microsoft now

05:21 schestowitz-pi2; and his logic is flawed

05:21 schestowitz-pi2; because he misses the point that general-purpose computers

05:21 schestowitz-pi2; now move towards sobstrucitng bsd and gnu/linux from even bootstrapping

05:21 schestowitz-pi2; yet he thinks google and apple are an equal cause for concern

05:21 schestowitz-pi2; i never heard of google phoning an employer to get a "google hater" fired

05:22 techrights[sec]; M$ does operate like a mafia or cult and even after all these decades he seems

05:22 techrights[sec]; to not want to notice that.

05:24 schestowitz-pi2; i hope he will listen and respond regarding DDG

05:24 schestowitz-pi2; it would be disturbing if his stance was an evasion

05:24 schestowitz-pi2; and that in its own right would be worth reporting

05:24 schestowitz-pi2; but first he needs to explain why he uses it

05:24 schestowitz-pi2; i assume he does not understand what he is using

05:24 schestowitz-pi2; and microsoft^H^HDG has bribed enoug orgs to condition

05:24 schestowitz-pi2; him to trust it

05:28 schestowitz-pi2; <schestowitz[TR]> I asked RMS about DDG and tolds him what DDG really is

05:28 schestowitz-pi2; <schestowitz[TR]> he has not responded yet

05:28 schestowitz-pi2; <schestowitz[TR]> people who use X hate to admit using X was a bad idea all along

05:28 schestowitz-pi2; <schestowitz[TR]> and would go rather far to try to justify the self-harming practice

05:29 schestowitz-pi2; <schestowitz[TR]> "I didn't have condition Y before these vaccines, but many people took these vaccines and the government strongly recommended them, so there cannot possible be a connection/correlation. It must be just me, the media doesn't talk about it.."

05:31 techrights[sec]; It's a human weakness that most people succumb to, in that they dig in their

05:31 techrights[sec]; heels rather than change their viewpoint. That is why propaganda and disinformation is so effective. Whatever

05:31 techrights[sec]; gets into people's heads first stays there

05:31 techrights[sec]; no matter how wrong.

05:53 schestowitz-pi2; Fellowship helps K-12 educators teach students about sustainability https://impact.govrel.umich.edu/dow-fellowship-sustainability/

↺ https://impact.govrel.umich.edu/dow-fellowship-sustainability/

05:53 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-impact.govrel.umich.edu | Get outside: Fellowship helps K-12 educators teach students the importance of sustainability | Michigan Impact

05:53 schestowitz-pi2; teaching buzzwords

05:54 techrights[sec]; https://research.com/education/why-facts-dont-change-our-mind

↺ https://research.com/education/why-facts-dont-change-our-mind

05:54 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://research.com/education/why-facts-dont-change-our-mind )

↺ https://research.com/education/why-facts-dont-change-our-mind

05:54 techrights[sec]; https://www.psd.gov.sg/challenge/ideas/big-idea/why-facts-don-t-change-minds

↺ https://www.psd.gov.sg/challenge/ideas/big-idea/why-facts-don-t-change-minds

05:54 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.psd.gov.sg | Why Facts Don't Change Minds | Challenge

05:55 schestowitz-pi2; WHO director-general to receive Thomas Francis Jr. Medal on March 13 https://record.umich.edu/articles/who-director-general-to-receive-thomas-francis-jr-medal-on-march-13/

↺ https://record.umich.edu/articles/who-director-general-to-receive-thomas-francis-jr-medal-on-march-13/

05:55 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-record.umich.edu | WHO director-general to receive Thomas Francis Jr. Medal on March 13 | The University Record

05:57 schestowitz-pi2; corrupt politician gets medal

05:57 schestowitz-pi2; for the very "fine work"

05:57 schestowitz-pi2; maybe part of the recent "diversity" platitudes

05:57 schestowitz-pi2; many posts there and in other unis to that effect

05:57 schestowitz-pi2; trying to alter perceptions

05:57 schestowitz-pi2; mere perceptions

05:57 schestowitz-pi2; like LF

05:57 schestowitz-pi2; one day it's "minorities"

05:57 schestowitz-pi2; the next day it's "we work for Microsoft"

05:57 schestowitz-pi2; rinse, repeat

05:59 schestowitz-pi2; <techrights-news> Young Americans pass on piece of paper, find path without college https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Education/2023/0309/Young-Americans-pass-on-piece-of-paper-find-path-without-college

↺ https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Education/2023/0309/Young-Americans-pass-on-piece-of-paper-find-path-without-college

05:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Colleges see low enrollment as students seek alternative paths - CSMonitor.com


6 AM, March 11

06:00 techrights[sec]; Most (all?) universities there have fallen to microsoft and no longer have

06:00 techrights[sec]; either a viable computing infrastructure or the ability to competently teach

06:00 techrights[sec]; computer science; Most but not all of it has devolved from science to training

06:00 techrights[sec]; and that training is specifically on ephemeral m$ gimmicks.

06:00 techrights[sec]; masquerading as useful products but are really malware.

06:01 schestowitz-pi2; /Young-Americans-pass-on-piece-of-paper-find-path-without-college

06:01 schestowitz-pi2; maybe nowadays it's just paper

06:01 schestowitz-pi2; defends on the syllabus

06:01 techrights[sec]; In most cases, especially the lower quality institutions, microsofters

06:01 techrights[sec]; determine the syllabus

06:02 techrights[sec]; in all areas related to ICT and, due to control of the labs, even in most

06:02 techrights[sec]; non-ICT topics too

06:03 schestowitz-pi2; *depends

06:03 schestowitz-pi2; there is a national element to it, not just corporate

06:03 schestowitz-pi2; you can see that in 'satellite' countries

06:03 schestowitz-pi2; even what langs are taught

06:03 techrights[sec]; Yes where entourages show up to kowtow to bill rather than roll him up in a

06:03 techrights[sec]; blanket and beat him.

06:06 schestowitz-pi2; On TikTok and YouTube, Heres Why Quitting Videos Go Viral https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/09/business/quitting-videos-viral-tiktok-youtube.html

↺ https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/09/business/quitting-videos-viral-tiktok-youtube.html

06:06 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nytimes.com | On TikTok and YouTube, Heres Why Quitting Videos Go Viral - The New York Times

06:06 schestowitz-pi2; BORG Drinking Is Going Viral on TikTok. What on Earth Is It? https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/09/style/borg-drinking-tiktok.html

↺ https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/09/style/borg-drinking-tiktok.html

06:06 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nytimes.com | BORG Drinking Is Going Viral on TikTok. What on Earth Is It? - The New York Times

06:08 schestowitz-pi2; now i SEE THEM IN DANDEM

06:08 schestowitz-pi2; ONE IS UNDER "BUSINESS"

06:08 schestowitz-pi2; caps a mistake

06:08 schestowitz-pi2; "On TikTok and YouTube, workers are sharing their stories of leaving their jobs, giving thema sense of power

06:09 schestowitz-pi2; over often untenable situations."

06:09 schestowitz-pi2; sounds like a puff piece, two in a row, in tandem

06:09 schestowitz-pi2; michael: yo dawg, i herd the tiktok goes BIG on "open-source"

06:10 schestowitz-pi2; fi press says pres went to "DC"

06:10 schestowitz-pi2; but iirc, prioer to it Washington the state as well

06:10 schestowitz-pi2; anyway, seattle area does have some key things

06:10 schestowitz-pi2; so it would be interesting to know why he flew to the east coat

06:10 schestowitz-pi2; coast

06:11 schestowitz-pi2; could fly to poland instead and deal with real issues

06:11 schestowitz-pi2; not mr. pretzel gates


8 AM, March 11

08:25 schestowitz-pi2; <techrights-news> Beginners uses "apps" (terrible waste of time; inefficient); pros use software; pros with experience avoid all proprietary software and invest their workflow/skills in FREE software; gurus write their own software to suit their own workflow (they're the most efficient bunch). Linux did well partly because of Git.

08:40 techrights[sec]; There are fewer and fewer IT people left let alone skilled IT people. That was

08:40 techrights[sec]; already a problem 10 + years ago. Now it is beyond an acute crisis.

08:41 schestowitz-pi2; i am trying to think of either analogy or similar scenario in history

08:41 schestowitz-pi2; where some skills were denied for the working class

08:41 schestowitz-pi2; as soon as they had become a potential threat to the "equipment owners"


9 AM, March 11

09:59 schestowitz-pi2; there is an epic credit crunch atm

09:59 schestowitz-pi2; and seems like many "young" companies will implode in the coming weeks

09:59 schestowitz-pi2; 2008-like SHTF is here, but we no longer have the journalism of 2008

09:59 schestowitz-pi2; so we are not even hearing the "r" word: recession

09:59 techrights[sec]; and Tiktok

09:59 techrights[sec]; Recession was years ago, I bet all the classical signs of a full-blown

09:59 techrights[sec]; depression are visible now. The defining characterstics have probably been

09:59 techrights[sec]; all changed around to avoid it being mentioned. However, if one goes by

09:59 techrights[sec]; the definition used in past decades, I'

09:59 techrights[sec]; d guess one has been going on for a long while already.


10 AM, March 11

10:13 schestowitz-pi2; <DaemonFC> https://www.wsj.com/articles/banks-brace-for-more-consumers-to-fall-behind-on-their-loans-11675030305

↺ https://www.wsj.com/articles/banks-brace-for-more-consumers-to-fall-behind-on-their-loans-11675030305

10:13 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Banks Brace for More Consumers to Fall Behind on Their Loans - WSJ

10:13 schestowitz-pi2; -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Banks Brace for More Consumers to Fall Behind on Their Loans - WSJ

10:16 DaemonFC; "Ashley Tyrner, CEO of FarmboxRx, said she had spoken to several friends whose businesses are backed by venture capital. She described them as being beside themselves over the banks failure. Tyrners chief operating officer tried to withdraw her companys funds on Thursday but failed to do so in time.

10:16 DaemonFC; One friend said they couldnt make payroll today and cried when they had to inform 200 employees because of this issue, Tyrner said."

10:17 schestowitz-pi2; had a long chat over mumble about the economy

10:17 schestowitz-pi2; also got some advice on the pension situation

10:17 schestowitz-pi2; and actioned it

10:17 schestowitz-pi2; what'sgood about it is, i document it in public as the company claims to be "open source"

10:17 schestowitz-pi2; i know many other companies that also compromised if not abandoned FS

10:17 schestowitz-pi2; so there are lessons in there...

10:23 *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving)

10:36 techrights[sec]; The standard FDIC limit is 250k USD so those businesses will be out a lot of

10:36 techrights[sec]; money

10:38 schestowitz-pi2; i plan to issue a part every 2-3 days re pensions

10:38 schestowitz-pi2; next might be audio... tomorrow

10:38 schestowitz-pi2; i'll also look into the sites and do backup -- very important to never lose what we worked on for many years

10:38 schestowitz-pi2; TM is 20 next summer

10:59 techrights[sec]; It might be good to keep up the pace on the migration of tm-old to tm-new


11 AM, March 11

11:01 schestowitz-pi2; yes, i agree

11:01 schestowitz-pi2; i think at this point it's getting close to, change dns

11:01 schestowitz-pi2; but I want to check many many edge

11:01 schestowitz-pi2; cases

11:01 schestowitz-pi2; there is a question of commitment to susan here

11:01 schestowitz-pi2; she devoted her life to that site, inc. historic reviews

11:01 schestowitz-pi2; and I'd like to think everyone would treat other people's hard work like this

11:01 schestowitz-pi2; you remember MadPenguin and what happened to it

11:19 schestowitz-pi2; seeing the way rianne gets "news", youtube and billbc

11:19 schestowitz-pi2; i realise this is very lego-like children shit like scrolling through cubes with headlines

11:19 schestowitz-pi2; and click-baiting photographs. it seems like an awful way to get zeitgeist/news

11:19 schestowitz-pi2; like something you would present to a chimp in a bio experiment

11:20 techrights[sec]; It's a very inefficient method, by design. The goal is not that of delivering

11:20 techrights[sec]; information but instead that of "engagement" otherwise known as wasting time.

11:24 schestowitz-pi2; scroll, pinch, stare, drool

11:24 schestowitz-pi2; and too many topics, so the mind spills all over the place

11:24 schestowitz-pi2; while emotions run "high"

11:24 schestowitz-pi2; i complained about what twitter had become, a sea of endless shocks or mental riggered

11:24 schestowitz-pi2; totally unrelated topics

11:24 schestowitz-pi2; back around 2017

11:24 schestowitz-pi2; i find it dificult to manage the mind

11:24 schestowitz-pi2; so I learned to "tame" that

11:24 schestowitz-pi2; i like how in kate things get clustered by topic and i hardly need to click anything

11:24 schestowitz-pi2; the full text is right there and no photos steal my attention

11:24 schestowitz-pi2; everything should be possible to convey in words, inc. all the old literatures

11:25 schestowitz-pi2; illusions shatter your chosen mental/visual conceptions

11:25 schestowitz-pi2; and can ruin expectations

11:25 schestowitz-pi2; same for news

11:25 schestowitz-pi2; i didn't care what Justice Jackson looked like

11:25 schestowitz-pi2; i only saw her face after she had joined SCOTUS

11:28 techrights[sec]; Yep

11:36 schestowitz-pi2; https://robertreich.org/post/711428902411763712">Think Grocery Prices Are High Now? Just Wait.

↺ https://robertreich.org/post/711428902411763712">Think

11:36 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-robertreich.org | Robert Reich (Think Grocery Prices Are High Now? Just Wait....)

11:37 schestowitz-pi2; reading and watching it at the moment

11:37 schestowitz-pi2; we hope our 'loopholes' will remain available

11:37 schestowitz-pi2; sunday market

11:39 schestowitz-pi2; <techrights-news> Social control media is the problem. It needs to be abandoned, not changed. RSS/XML/Atom far better "protocols" for avoidance of manipulation. https://www.techdirt.com/2023/03/10/protocol-based-social-media-is-having-a-moment-as-meta-medium-flipboard-and-mozilla-all-get-on-board/ | Source: Techdirt

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2023/03/10/protocol-based-social-media-is-having-a-moment-as-meta-medium-flipboard-and-mozilla-all-get-on-board/

11:39 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Protocol-Based Social Media Is Having A Moment As Meta, Medium, Flipboard, And Mozilla All Get On Board | Techdirt

11:41 schestowitz-pi2; <techrights-news> Gizmodo and the focus on "privacy" rather than the most toxic aspects of TikTok -- the aspects shared across and amongst other social control media provocateurs https://www.techdirt.com/2023/03/10/gizmodo-found-28000-apps-sending-tiktok-user-data/ | Source: Techdirt

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2023/03/10/gizmodo-found-28000-apps-sending-tiktok-user-data/

11:41 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Gizmodo Found 28,000 Apps Sending TikTok User Data | Techdirt

11:42 schestowitz-pi2; next thing you know corporate media will call people who reject and avoid their brain damage

11:42 schestowitz-pi2; (social control media etc.) "elitist" -- the same tactics Microsofters use against FS

11:55 techrights[sec]; Name calling works, as stupid as that is, so they us it. Thus we have systemd

11:55 techrights[sec]; infecting all distros of importance


noon, March 11

12:08 schestowitz-pi2; http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/11/Databases_MongoDB_Woes_and_Two_Postgres_Projects.shtml

↺ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/11/Databases_MongoDB_Woes_and_Two_Postgres_Projects.shtml

12:08 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Databases: MongoDB Woes and Two Postgres Projects

12:08 schestowitz-pi2; see the formatting in 2nd and 3rd links

12:08 schestowitz-pi2; i like it as it's a big step up

12:08 schestowitz-pi2; and does not take much effort :-)

12:08 schestowitz-pi2; authoritative links inline

12:08 schestowitz-pi2; and richer structure

12:08 schestowitz-pi2; gonna finalise daily links in a mo

12:08 schestowitz-pi2; i try to throttle myself down to max 3 posts in 10-20 mins

12:08 schestowitz-pi2; anything faster can overwhelm readers

12:08 schestowitz-pi2; so i've changed my posting workflow a bit since january

12:10 schestowitz-pi2; this mornign i noted (to rianne) that irc has been conflict-free lately

12:10 schestowitz-pi2; and it turns outpeople who don't agree can act like adult

12:11 schestowitz-pi2; CoC and bans would be spurious, IBM pushes CoC a lot in recent days, trying to rationalise it

12:11 schestowitz-pi2; fedoa barely has a community left, so coc is in effect an extension of employment contracts

12:11 schestowitz-pi2; to community, sans the salary

12:11 schestowitz-pi2; http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/11/Debian_Project_What_is_the_difference_between_a_Project_and_a_p.shtml

↺ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/11/Debian_Project_What_is_the_difference_between_a_Project_and_a_p.shtml

12:11 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Debian Project -- What is the difference between a Project and a proper Association?

12:13 techrights[sec]; The CoC is doing its intended job. :(

12:13 techrights[sec]; It ensures minimal participation and selects the political alliegance of those

12:13 techrights[sec]; it does allow to participate.

12:13 techrights[sec]; There's a world of difference.

12:13 techrights[sec]; A CoC-blocked project is inevitably going on life support unless taken over

12:13 techrights[sec]; and fully controlled by a corporate sponsor

12:15 schestowitz-pi2; the strawman, namecalling, diversion tactis is:

12:15 schestowitz-pi2; consistently potray any antaginism to a CoC as right-wing bigotry

12:15 schestowitz-pi2; and a "safety" issue

12:15 schestowitz-pi2; in reality, it's about controlling the debate and selecting which volunteers to 'fire'

12:15 schestowitz-pi2; based on apachetop a lot of people read irc logs

12:15 schestowitz-pi2; i reckon they focus on particular things in the or find them via searchers

12:15 schestowitz-pi2; when so many sites are dead or webspam i can imagine the logs do come up

12:15 schestowitz-pi2; in results

12:17 schestowitz-pi2; older irc logs, circa 2014-2018 (twitter KILLS API first time aroiund)

12:17 schestowitz-pi2; contain archives of many important tweets, inc. snowden, wikileaks..

12:17 schestowitz-pi2; i nowadays use them also to archive important comments

12:17 schestowitz-pi2; knowing they will be as recoverable as groklaw comments in a few years

12:17 schestowitz-pi2; i think we are the only foss site covering the theme of www languishing

12:17 schestowitz-pi2; domains left to rot etc.

12:48 schestowitz-pi2; the Twitter Files included evidence:

12:48 schestowitz-pi2; that the big pharma advertisers in SaudiTwitter

12:48 schestowitz-pi2; pressured Twitter to obstruct/ban/shadowban

12:48 schestowitz-pi2; people who called for 'IP' (patents) waiver

12:48 schestowitz-pi2; so that might help explain what zoobab and I experienced at the time

12:49 schestowitz-pi2; btw, i never opened the redditson video or that reddit threat

12:49 schestowitz-pi2; i have a stricter policy now about dealing with trash ;-)

12:49 schestowitz-pi2; there's _no lack_ of news in kate

12:49 schestowitz-pi2; usually 10k-20k lines of text

12:49 schestowitz-pi2; i refresh that only once day, some time between misnight and 6am typically

12:49 schestowitz-pi2; then i go through yesterday's news

12:49 schestowitz-pi2; this pevents me stepping over rianne's toes with overlapping stories (dupes)

12:49 schestowitz-pi2; and also helps ensure you see the other stories before me

12:49 schestowitz-pi2; i need to make a hard "break" - a slot in which to work on articles/videos

12:49 schestowitz-pi2; but am still adapting and also weeding out some obviously bad rss feeds

12:49 schestowitz-pi2; there are not many left to add as not many well-funded site are born

12:49 schestowitz-pi2; and those that are new fail to grain audience and shut down soon thereaftermoon

12:49 schestowitz-pi2; btw, rmember mashable? i realise today i've not heard of it in years

12:49 schestowitz-pi2; it was all the rage around 2010


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13:46 schestowitz-pi2; <techrights-news> underpaid https://truthout.org/articles/public-universities-run-on-underpaid-labor-now-grad-workers-are-fighting-back/ | Source: TruthOut

↺ https://truthout.org/articles/public-universities-run-on-underpaid-labor-now-grad-workers-are-fighting-back/

13:46 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | Public Universities Run on Underpaid Labor. Now Grad Workers Are Fighting Back. - Truthout

13:47 schestowitz-pi2; not sure it is feasible for them to do in 1 hour the work expected in 8

13:47 schestowitz-pi2; iow, getting paid more properly for their skills

13:49 schestowitz-pi2; <techrights-news> USA: abortion pills are illegal, semi-automatic rifles with several magazines are legal. FREEDOM!


2 PM, March 11

14:18 schestowitz-pi2; <techrights-news> commondreams shilling TikTok trash... a blow to themselves https://www.commondreams.org/news/willow-project-tiktok-climate-biden | Source: Common Dreams

↺ https://www.commondreams.org/news/willow-project-tiktok-climate-biden

14:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Echoing Climate TikTok, Al Gore Says Biden OK of Willow Would Be 'Recklessly Irresponsible'

14:19 schestowitz-pi2; tiktok <3 nature

14:19 schestowitz-pi2; more greenwashing please!!

14:59 schestowitz-pi2; <techrights-news> Mixing together "Abortion and Gender-Affirming Care" simply distracts from the battle for abortion rights and alienates both men and women. https://truthout.org/articles/co-dems-introduce-bills-that-would-protect-abortion-and-gender-affirming-care/ | Source: TruthOut

↺ https://truthout.org/articles/co-dems-introduce-bills-that-would-protect-abortion-and-gender-affirming-care/

14:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | CO Dems Introduce Bills That Would Protect Abortion and Gender-Affirming Care - Truthout


3 PM, March 11

15:00 schestowitz-pi2; abortion a baby and aborting a penis is a very different thing a

15:00 schestowitz-pi2; and done for different reasons

15:00 schestowitz-pi2; imagine a bill for "war in ukraine and bringing down insulin price"

15:01 schestowitz-pi2; <techrights-news> wildlife and BillBC... but BillBC still airing Bill Gates interviews, despite knowing that he enabled Jeffrey Epstein. No lessons learned from Jimmy Savile.. https://truthout.org/articles/bbc-wildlife-docuseries-wont-air-last-episode-over-fears-of-right-wing-backlash/ | Source: TruthOut

↺ https://truthout.org/articles/bbc-wildlife-docuseries-wont-air-last-episode-over-fears-of-right-wing-backlash/

15:01 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | BBC Wildlife Docuseries Wont Air Last Episode Over Fears of Right-Wing Backlash - Truthout

15:38 schestowitz-pi2; <techrights-news> Criminals (Microsoft) pretend to care about women, despite their notoriety when it comes to sexism https://siliconangle.com/2023/03/10/r-ladies-aims-bridge-data-science-gender-gap-says-microsoft-cloud-advocate-wids2023/

↺ https://siliconangle.com/2023/03/10/r-ladies-aims-bridge-data-science-gender-gap-says-microsoft-cloud-advocate-wids2023/

15:38 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-R-Ladiesaims to bridge data science gender gap, says Microsoft cloud advocate - SiliconANGLE

15:46 schestowitz-pi2; <techrights-news> Russia Lists World Wildlife Fund, Others as Foreign Agents www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-03-10/russia-lists-world-wildlife-fund-others-as-foreign-agents

15:51 schestowitz-pi2; <techrights-news> Just up and quitting: Victorian schools short 1000 teachers https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/just-up-and-quitting-victorian-schools-short-1000-teachers-20230301-p5col9.html

↺ https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/just-up-and-quitting-victorian-schools-short-1000-teachers-20230301-p5col9.html

15:51 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theage.com.au | Victoria teacher shortages: Almost 1000 jobs being advertised by government

15:52 schestowitz-pi2; <techrights-news> It is not "brutal"; the West did the same (at least at first!) https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/man-behind-shanghai-s-brutal-covid-zero-laws-becomes-china-s-second-in-charge-20230311-p5craa.html

↺ https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/man-behind-shanghai-s-brutal-covid-zero-laws-becomes-china-s-second-in-charge-20230311-p5craa.html

15:52 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theage.com.au | Li Qiang has become Chinas next premier


4 PM, March 11

16:00 schestowitz-pi2; Lenovo Begins Supporting LinuxBoot Firmware With ByteDance https://www.phoronix.com/news/Lenovo-LinuxBoot-Byt

↺ https://www.phoronix.com/news/Lenovo-LinuxBoot-Byt

16:00 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Linux Hardware Reviews & Performance Benchmarks, Open-Source News - Phoronix

16:00 schestowitz-pi2; eDance

16:00 schestowitz-pi2; two tiktok openwashing stories in one day

16:00 schestowitz-pi2; lenovo (china also)

16:00 schestowitz-pi2; and it boils down to few lines of code

16:00 schestowitz-pi2; TikTok Owner Bytedance Goes Big On Open-Source Firmware https://www.phoronix.com/news/Bytedance-CloudFW-Open-

↺ https://www.phoronix.com/news/Bytedance-CloudFW-Open-

16:00 schestowitz-pi2; Source

16:02 schestowitz-pi2; tbh, i was about to tell you, phoronix has 0 (zero) stgories of relevancre today or past 24 hours

16:02 schestowitz-pi2; or stories of actual importance

16:02 schestowitz-pi2; some yeasrs ago I'd miss a lot by not checking it

16:02 schestowitz-pi2; now it's bland

16:02 schestowitz-pi2; and worse.. you get lots of Microsoft "placements"

16:02 schestowitz-pi2; set aside ads

16:03 techrights[sec]; Yes, there is very clearly a campaign going on to whitewash and promote it

16:03 techrights[sec]; in spite of the severe damage it does to health (mental and physical) and

16:03 techrights[sec]; to culture. The latter is unprecedented in history, short of traditional

16:03 techrights[sec]; genocide.

16:03 schestowitz-pi2; last night (toothbrushing iirc) I though of a aimpls algorithmic way of organising the links for consumption

16:03 schestowitz-pi2; by kate

16:03 schestowitz-pi2; but I will implement tomorrow

16:04 techrights[sec]; What would be the change?

16:17 schestowitz-pi2; it is about how I process rrrrr..09

16:17 schestowitz-pi2; and how I remove dupes cross-days

16:17 schestowitz-pi2; such that I spend less time seeing the same things again

16:17 schestowitz-pi2; i need to automate this

16:18 techrights[sec]; It's in Git now

16:18 techrights[sec]; The browser marks seen links as purple (or whatever color)

16:18 techrights[sec]; For Kate, there is the de-duplication script which might work.

16:18 techrights[sec]; Or a modification of it.

16:19 schestowitz-pi2; sorry, was afk (tea)

16:19 schestowitz-pi2; i partly did the work, but have not finished

16:24 schestowitz-pi2; https://www.phoronix.com/news/OpenBSD-Guided-Disk-Encryption

↺ https://www.phoronix.com/news/OpenBSD-Guided-Disk-Encryption

16:24 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-OpenBSD Finally Adds Guided Disk Encryption To Its Installer - Phoronix

16:24 schestowitz-pi2; he copied a mailing list message, added some photograph

16:24 schestowitz-pi2; which as far as I can see if not related to disk encryption

16:24 schestowitz-pi2; it's the same with linux, not just openbsd

16:24 schestowitz-pi2; a long time ago there was a news site called KernelTrap

16:24 schestowitz-pi2; it did this a lot better

16:24 schestowitz-pi2; i am not moaning about someone parking in mailing lists and reorting some changes

16:24 schestowitz-pi2; but adding a top of nasty ads on top and i between (Microsoft shitposts, tiktok)

16:24 schestowitz-pi2; is giving the site a bad rap

16:24 schestowitz-pi2; 15 years ago there were still news sites analysing things like the novell deal,

16:24 schestowitz-pi2; the mono situation, etc

16:39 techrights[sec]; There is little to no analysis any more and most sites have been paid by bill

16:39 techrights[sec]; not to cover technology policy or rights related to the digital era. The

16:39 techrights[sec]; rest, who have not been paid, fall victim to social control media and the

16:39 techrights[sec]; influence that bill has bought there topo

16:39 techrights[sec]; %too

16:42 schestowitz-pi2; got the file, will try using it tonight

16:42 schestowitz-pi2; i wrote one to de-dupe the text as well

16:42 schestowitz-pi2; moments ago

16:42 schestowitz-pi2; all this stuff will mature over time

16:42 schestowitz-pi2; LWN weekly release outside paywall was due

16:56 schestowitz-pi2; lwn weekly done

16:56 schestowitz-pi2; weekend tasks done

16:56 schestowitz-pi2; flatoutlines MERGED, de-duped

16:57 schestowitz-pi2; <techrights-news> Gateway to DRM, censorship of GNU/Linux "apps", and proprietary spyware https://opensourcewatch.beehiiv.com/p/flathub-linux-desktop-app-store-growing

↺ https://opensourcewatch.beehiiv.com/p/flathub-linux-desktop-app-store-growing

16:57 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-opensourcewatch.beehiiv.com | Flathub, the Linux desktop app store, is growing up | Open Source Watch


5 PM, March 11

17:02 techrights[sec]; "Snaps" and "Flatpaks" are central to pushing DRM and proprietary garbage into

17:02 techrights[sec]; the distros.

17:03 schestowitz-pi2; plu centralisation, not the debian mirror way

17:04 techrights[sec]; Yes, especially with 'Snaps' which are served out of a single, centralized,

17:04 techrights[sec]; proprietart, closed source site.


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