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05:28 schestowitz; Re: I made an easy to use mass mailing list. It took about 5 minutes.
05:28 schestowitz; > 1. Copy a list that has the names of persons you want to send to (as a
05:28 schestowitz; > group)and their e-mail address. When ready to use for a
05:28 schestowitz; > mass mailer, Copy the List and Paste on the. Bcc: line of your outgoing
05:28 schestowitz; > message. No way I want people to see all the others that got the same
05:28 schestowitz; > message. Thats it! Several friends send me messages using the To: box
05:28 schestowitz; > with all their contacts exposed. This allows me to hijack and expand my
05:28 schestowitz; > readers. So as not to offend anyone, I am going to include an When
05:28 schestowitz; > ready to use for a mass mailer, Copy the List and Paste on the. Bcc:
05:28 schestowitz; > line of your outgoing message. No way I want people to see all the
05:28 schestowitz; > others that got the same message. Thats it!
05:28 schestowitz; > 5. Several friends send me messages using the To: box with all their
05:28 schestowitz; > contacts exposed. This allows me to hijack and expand my readers. So as
05:28 schestowitz; > not to offend anyone, I am going to include an *opt out* option in
05:28 schestowitz; > small print at the bottom of each article sent.
05:28 schestowitz; > 2. Go to edit and select *Add New* as if you were posting an article
05:29 schestowitz; > 3. Where normally you would put a title name your list.
05:29 schestowitz; > 4. Paste the names into the body where you normally put a message.
05:29 schestowitz; > Thats it!
05:29 schestowitz; Re: One other thing I forgot to note
05:29 schestowitz; > I have the date set to publish as Decembe*r 31, 2023.* That keeps it
05:29 schestowitz; > locked at the top of any other articles waiting to appear on the weblog.
05:29 schestowitz; > Of course, it is under my control & will never move.
05:29 schestowitz; Usually, if this is done, it'll not show anything until that date is reached.
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07:41 Techrights-sec; http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-100122.html#tJan%2010%2009:52:30
07:41 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, January 10, 2022
07:43 schestowitz-TR; yes, i wanted to self-host kiwi
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07:47 Techrights-sec; the IRC logs are public ..
07:47 schestowitz-TR; and redacted
07:47 Techrights-sec; insufficiently
07:58 schestowitz-TR; it is very obvious to those involved who the source is, the goal is to protect th
07:58 schestowitz-TR; e name from the genral public
07:59 Techrights-sec; for that it is somewhat adequate but ...
08:12 schestowitz-TR; fwiw, the disclosure are strategic in terms of time and mibbit was used only once, ages ago
08:12 schestowitz-TR; *disclosures
08:13 schestowitz-TR; Nat Friedman likely knew what was coming
08:13 schestowitz-TR; but giving too much of a headsup would undermine the series
08:22 Techrights-sec; not just the series but the more important aspect is the actual case
08:22 schestowitz-TR; there are many more angles to it, inc. GPL matters and Monoi
08:22 schestowitz-TR; the series throws the company into a bit of disarray
08:23 Techrights-sec; ack
08:23 schestowitz-TR; there has also been slapp in the mix, but the series helped defuse that
08:24 Techrights-sec; that is very good all around
08:25 schestowitz-TR; a man in prison cannot sue
08:27 schestowitz-TR; woww!!!!
08:27 schestowitz-TR; 'hacker' news has just removeed the story
08:27 schestowitz-TR; worse: they remolveed ALL mentions of the name!!
08:29 Techrights-sec; as far as I have read that would only put him at a disadvantage
08:29 Techrights-sec; yep. HN is a m$ shop through and through
08:29 Techrights-sec; HN will act more agressively like that as things work closer and closer to bill
08:31 schestowitz-TR; this is inedible, it's good I made a backup over irc
08:37 Techrights-sec; yes HN, among others, are not to be trusted
08:37 schestowitz-TR; I have made more backups just now
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08:37 schestowitz-TR; I won't bore you with the details but
08:38 schestowitz-TR; short story is, something very big is happening
08:38 schestowitz-TR; and it looks like the victims is made to change the story
08:38 schestowitz-TR; contradicting her own PUBLIC account of what had happened
08:38 schestowitz-TR; maybe money or something involved
08:39 Techrights-sec; excellent
08:39 Techrights-sec; that in itself is a big story
08:40 Techrights-sec; btw
08:40 Techrights-sec; afaik graveley is associated with ycombinator
08:40 Techrights-sec; you know who conrols HN
08:40 schestowitz-TR; btw
08:40 schestowitz-TR; afaik graveley is associated with ycombinator
08:40 schestowitz-TR; you know who conrols HN
08:41 Techrights-sec; with everything so centralized online revisionism is not just technically feasible but even easy.
08:41 Techrights-sec; My opinion of HN and its agendas has always been low, this jst lowers it further
08:44 schestowitz-TR; let me try if I can demonstreate the revisionism and contradiciton from
08:44 schestowitz-TR; the horse's own mouth
08:44 Techrights-sec; good idea
08:46 schestowitz-TR; somebody spent like a fucking HOUR redacting like 100 things, named and links, in
08:46 schestowitz-TR; the HN page
08:46 Techrights-sec; interesting
08:47 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft employees in then thread They admit this.
08:50 Techrights-sec; I suppose more will be hidden by NDAs and nondisparagement clauses in termination
08:50 Techrights-sec; contracts
08:51 Techrights-sec; ack
09:06 schestowitz; <li>
09:06 schestowitz; <h5><a href="https://boilingsteam.com/the-legend-of-tianding-review-on-linux/">The Legend Of Tianding: Review On Linux</a></h5>
09:06 schestowitz; <blockquote>
09:06 schestowitz; <p>The Legend of Tianding is a Taiwanese game. Asia is comprised of many small countries but very few are actually powerhouses when it comes to video game development. Japan more or less created the video games industry in the first place (Nintendo created the worldwide mass market with the NES and everything derived from there), then Korea created the online PC gaming market before anyone else, and thats about it.
09:06 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-boilingsteam.com | The 20 Games Linux Gamers Want To See Ported - Boiling Steam
09:06 schestowitz; China has its owned closed market that nobody knows (or cares) about, so its kind of irrelevant. Singapore, Malaysia, Taiwan have a few devs here and there but by far and large nothing major. So I had very low expectations to begin with. Well, virtually anyone with half a brain can make a 2D platformer, but doing it well requires talent and experience. In that context, The Legend of Tianding is an excellent surprise.</p></blockquote></li>
09:08 schestowitz; NEWS #BetaNews # Linux Mint sells out for Mozilla money -- Google becomes default search in Firefox https://betanews.com/2022/01/10/linux-mint-mozilla-google-firefox/
09:08 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-betanews.com | Linux Mint sells out for Mozilla money -- Google becomes default search in Firefox
09:08 schestowitz; <li>
09:08 schestowitz; <h5><a href="https://betanews.com/2022/01/10/linux-mint-mozilla-google-firefox/">Linux Mint sells out for Mozilla money -- Google becomes default search in Firefox</a></h5>
09:08 schestowitz; <blockquote>
09:08 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-betanews.com | Panorama9 for Linux
09:09 schestowitz; <p>So, you decided to get rid of Windows and switch to Linux because you have strong beliefs about free and open source software, eh? Well done! That is quite the noble action, and you should be proud that you are following your morals. You could have chosen a Chromebook but you didn't, as you didn't want to support Google. Fair enough.</p>
09:09 schestowitz; <p>Maybe you instead went with Linux Mint because its developers are not beholden to anyone. Well, if that is the case, I have some bad news. You see, Linux Mint has officially sold out! Sadly, the developers of the Ubuntu-based operating system have agreed to accept an undisclosed amount of money from Mozilla in exchange for making significant changes to Linux Mint. This includes removal of modifications to Firefox and a
09:09 schestowitz; big change for search...</p></blockquote></li>
09:09 schestowitz; NEWS #XDA # Linux Mint strikes deal with Mozilla to keep Firefox as default web browser https://www.xda-developers.com/linux-mint-firefox-deal/
09:09 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.xda-developers.com | Linux Mint strikes deal with Mozilla to keep Firefox as default web browser
09:09 schestowitz; <li>
09:09 schestowitz; <h5><a href="https://www.xda-developers.com/linux-mint-firefox-deal/">Linux Mint strikes deal with Mozilla to keep Firefox as default web browser</a></h5>
09:09 schestowitz; <blockquote>
09:09 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.xda-developers.com | linux
09:09 schestowitz; <p>Linux Mint announced in a blog post (via omg! ubuntu!) that it has signed a new commercial and development deal with Mozilla, which will keep Firefox as the default web browser. Linux Mint will continue to distribute Firefox through the systems software repositories as a .deb package, just as it works now (and how it worked on Ubuntu before 21.10), without using Snap. However, all of the customizations Linux Mint
09:09 schestowitz; added to Firefox will be removed the start page wont be linuxmint.com/start anymore, the default search engine will revert back to Google, and so on.</p></blockquote></li>
09:09 schestowitz; NEWS #LinuxMint # Linux Mint signs a partnership with Mozilla https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=4244
09:09 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.linuxmint.com | Linux Mint signs a partnership with Mozilla The Linux Mint Blog
09:09 schestowitz; <li>
09:09 schestowitz; <h5><a href="https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=4244">Linux Mint signs a partnership with Mozilla</a></h5>
09:09 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.linuxmint.com | Linux Mint signs a partnership with Mozilla The Linux Mint Blog
09:09 schestowitz; <blockquote>
09:09 schestowitz; <p>Firefox will continue to be distributed as .deb packages through the official Linux Mint repositories. Its configuration and the way it is built is changing to make the Linux Mint version of Firefox much more similar (almost identical in fact) to the version which is distributed by Mozilla.</p>
09:09 schestowitz; <p>In the past Linux Mint used its own default settings and configured Firefox in a specific way. Most of this configuration is abandoned to go back to Mozilla defaults.</p></blockquote></li>
09:13 schestowitz; "I would like to know the full story. How does Liz Fong-Jones come into this? Are the progressive tech elites defending abusive behaviour because it happens to be connected to the absurdly rich (Nat Friedman)?"
09:13 schestowitz; "
09:13 schestowitz; Liz's boss, Charity Majors, has been friends with [name redacted] and Nat since she was 17 and [name redacted] was 15 through their "Hungry Programmers" organization.
09:13 schestowitz; Liz works with another friend of their staff engineers Chris Toshok, who interestingly enough was dating Charity when she was underage and he is 9 years her senior.
09:13 schestowitz; Charity and Chris are connected to a credit card hacker Max Visions, which is documented in the non-fiction book Kingpin by Kevin Poulsen https://www.kingpin.cc/about/
09:13 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.kingpin.cc | About the Author KINGPIN: How One Hacker Took Over the Billion-Dollar Cybercrime Underground
09:13 schestowitz; Charity told me to keep quiet about [name redacted] and Nat or bad things would happen to me and lied to me by saying she doesn't know [name redacted] when she clearly does.
09:13 schestowitz; Liz Fong-Jones uses the fact that she donated money to create the Solidarity Fund to decide who is a valid whistleblower or not.
09:13 schestowitz; "
09:14 schestowitz; "
09:14 schestowitz; A deposition to the police is not hearsay, it's evidence.
09:14 schestowitz; If you're going to play armchair lawyer, get the facts straight.
09:14 schestowitz; "
09:18 Techrights-sec; ack
09:18 Techrights-sec; ack
09:18 Techrights-sec; ack
09:18 Techrights-sec; they're trying to conflate facts with opinions again
09:20 schestowitz-TR; I want to brainstorm this for a bit
09:20 schestowitz-TR; so basically, lotas of ad hominem against the accuser
09:20 schestowitz-TR; microsoft staff getting involved
09:20 schestowitz-TR; lots of censorsdhip
09:20 schestowitz-TR; tweets, hacker news
09:20 schestowitz-TR; and maybe witness tampering
09:20 schestowitz-TR; so I'm thinking, get the confessions from the origiunal source out there
09:20 schestowitz-TR; those will be impossible to dispute
09:20 schestowitz-TR; and keep on presssing the issue
09:20 schestowitz-TR; now there's this method is trying tto insert a wedge between source and me
09:20 Techrights-sec; which method, specifically?
09:21 schestowitz-TR; it goes something along the lines of, dob't speak to this persoin
09:21 schestowitz-TR; or, if you do, then [consequences]
09:21 schestowitz-TR; [reasons], [consequences] false
09:22 Techrights-sec; aside from the appreance of extortion, the logic is flawed, but rather than
09:22 Techrights-sec; quibble about the falseness of the logic, address the illegality of the
09:22 Techrights-sec; extortion or witness tampering
09:22 schestowitz-TR; if only you have proof of the tampering
09:23 schestowitz-TR; the immigration services might be involved in this too, she is chinese so microsoft could in theory leverage this too
09:26 Techrights-sec; how many, if any, police reports remain to be published in redacted form?
09:26 Techrights-sec; yes, M$ plays very dirty, always has. One of the more difficult challenges,
09:26 Techrights-sec; going back to an old problem, is that too many people mistake social media
09:26 Techrights-sec; for comminications instead of a disinformation/misinformation channel. Theu
09:26 Techrights-sec; even mistake it for not being about mass manipulation of public opinion. So
09:26 Techrights-sec; it is always the wrong forum for open discussion. The owners won't let anything
09:26 Techrights-sec; contrary to their interests grow in the discussions.
09:28 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-060122.html
09:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, January 06, 2022
09:28 schestowitz; prior to censorship
09:28 schestowitz; partial, too
09:28 Techrights-sec; by removing the discussions from public view, M$ can then replace the facts with
09:28 Techrights-sec; a false narrative
09:31 schestowitz; "
09:31 schestowitz;
09:31 schestowitz; _o68p 5 days ago | root | parent | next []
09:31 schestowitz; If you are even really her...
09:31 schestowitz; Why did you accuse him of strangling you again on Twitter on October 14, 2021 a full 52 days after the incident then?
09:31 schestowitz; https://drive.google.com/file/d/1A4SUnQG9_f8JE5glOq9bA2DTOcb...
09:31 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://drive.google.com/file/d/1A4SUnQG9_f8JE5glOq9bA2DTOcb/edit )
09:31 schestowitz;
09:31 schestowitz; gookgette 5 days ago | root | parent | next []
09:31 schestowitz; Lol it is really me. Look at you, crazy vindictive lady, saving everything on a google drive. It wasnt strangling the way you think it was. Once again, the police used inflammatory words to make it sound worse then it seems. They get $10k from fines, go figure
09:31 schestowitz;
09:31 schestowitz; _o68p 5 days ago | root | parent | next []
09:31 schestowitz; Saving evidence... is crazy?
09:31 schestowitz; "
09:32 schestowitz-TR; account created 6 months ago
09:34 Techrights-sec; hmm
09:37 Techrights-sec; again trying to give facts equal value to options or wishes and then follwing
09:37 Techrights-sec; with ad hominem
09:37 Techrights-sec; he's very clearly trying to bait her into reacting and take her off track
09:38 schestowitz-TR; ack
09:38 schestowitz-TR; would it be wise to get those confessions, eadact, and preserve them in TR?
09:39 Techrights-sec; preserved while redacted yes but not sure about the timing of the publication
09:39 Techrights-sec; that is over my head
09:40 Techrights-sec; which goal(s) would it further?
09:40 Techrights-sec; back in a short bit
09:42 schestowitz-TR; great point!!
09:42 schestowitz-TR; I mean,
09:42 schestowitz-TR; think aboiut it
09:42 schestowitz-TR; are we under an actual burden to prove the incident did happen?
09:42 schestowitz-TR; the thread has now been buried hidden
09:42 schestowitz-TR; they labeled it [Dead]
09:42 schestowitz-TR; removede the headline
09:42 schestowitz-TR; so the denials are now there
09:42 schestowitz-TR; I think that account could be fake
09:42 schestowitz-TR; with the sole intention of just killing the pagfe,
09:42 schestowitz-TR; by moderator
09:43 schestowitz-TR; so, when I think about it, most people saw the report
09:43 schestowitz-TR; not the revisionism
09:43 schestowitz-TR; but
09:43 schestowitz-TR; in case a googlebombing revidionism campaign kicks off
09:43 schestowitz-TR; it would be useful to have confirmatory material
09:44 schestowitz-TR; I said right from the start, save all evidence
09:44 schestowitz-TR; as it can vanish later
09:44 schestowitz-TR; so one way or another we have what we ned regardless
09:44 schestowitz-TR; I will rest it rest for now
09:44 schestowitz-TR; will do the EU video next
09:47 schestowitz-TR; wait
09:47 schestowitz-TR; something ain't right
09:47 schestowitz-TR; all "her" commaents, 41 of them, in same thread
09:47 schestowitz-TR; this could be a sockpuppet account, I think I saw one in Twitter as wll
09:56 Techrights-sec; yes they use sockpuppet accounts a lot but that is always hard to prove without
09:56 Techrights-sec; cooperation from the site in question.
09:56 schestowitz-TR; did you get my ping on the pi?
09:56 Techrights-sec; I think what is obvious is the use of attempts at distraction:
09:57 Techrights-sec; https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/False-Equivalence
09:57 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.logicallyfallacious.com | False Equivalence
09:57 Techrights-sec; https://www.txstate.edu/philosophy/resources/fallacy-definitions/Ad-Hominem.html
09:57 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.txstate.edu | Ad Hominem : Department of Philosophy : Texas State University
09:58 Techrights-sec; so it is an indication of effective work
09:58 Techrights-sec; ty
09:58 schestowitz-TR; ty
10:09 schestowitz; re "he's very clearly trying to bait her into reacting and take her off track"
10:09 schestowitz; B:
10:09 schestowitz; "
10:09 schestowitz; You need to leave me alone or I will call the police for harassment.
10:09 schestowitz; Do not contact me.
10:09 schestowitz; I do not wish for you to communicate with me further.
10:09 schestowitz; "
10:09 schestowitz-TR; it seems to be working
10:11 schestowitz-TR; note to self: carry on with series as if this provocation never happened
10:12 schestowitz-TR; I did, upfront, warn or caution that HN would not be a suitable forum
10:12 schestowitz-TR; and was proven correct in a sense
10:13 schestowitz-TR; moral should be elevated, although I sensed a sign of despair, knowing how gar high this goes
10:17 schestowitz; A sockpuppet?
10:17 schestowitz; I researched this thread for 1.5 hour and discussed with a friend, verbally and in text.
10:17 schestowitz; I have archived the page.
10:17 schestowitz; You should ask the police if it's true they were asked to amend the complaint. If not, this is an imposter/sockpuppet, which should be reported to the police as impersonator of the victim.
10:17 schestowitz; Also, Google denies public access to the proof (tweets) of the incident 52 days later. Can you send this to me, please?
10:19 schestowitz; *hours
10:45 schestowitz-TR; just checked my notes
10:45 schestowitz-TR; 3 days ago I was told:
10:45 schestowitz; "Yeah, she (maybe it's him) is on hackernews trying to say it never happened"
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13:34 schestowitz-TR; just recorded a video
13:34 schestowitz-TR; very short
13:35 schestowitz-TR; i did not address actual questions
13:35 schestowitz-TR; they';re far too 'dumb' to even reply to with a straight face
13:35 Techrights-sec; ack
13:35 Techrights-sec; however that makes them easy prey for microsofters and other charlatans
13:35 schestowitz-TR; maybe that's by design
13:35 schestowitz-TR; hocus pocus
13:35 Techrights-sec; wouldn't be the first time they maneuver like that
13:36 schestowitz-TR; let me put the draft in wordpress while I still edit....
13:36 schestowitz-TR; done
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13:39 Techrights-sec; ack
13:39 Techrights-sec; checkingf
13:39 Techrights-sec; I'd say it's more likely misframed. By this decade more ought to know about
13:39 Techrights-sec; what general purpose computing is about, so there is not the excuse of it being
13:39 Techrights-sec; novel. Same with machine learning, where the innovation was in the 1970s and
13:39 Techrights-sec; 1980s, but the computing power didn't catch up with the theory until the last
13:39 Techrights-sec; decade or so.
14:20 schestowitz; record video, based on chat with you, uploading now, the draft is more up to date, am working on Daily Links in the mean time. Still thinking of the GitHub situation
14:21 schestowitz-TR; *recorded
14:21 Techrights-sec; ack
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17:50 Techrights-sec; there was a //blockquote//pre in gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/01/11/buzzwo
17:50 Techrights-sec; rds-from-brussels/
17:50 Techrights-sec; so some changes were needed to the parser, "just" an addition but look for
17:50 Techrights-sec; potential breakage anyway
17:50 schestowitz-TR; it is good that you read it from there and can spot such issues
17:50 Techrights-sec; np
17:51 Techrights-sec; it's impossible to find all cases in advance
17:51 schestowitz-TR; assuming that over time (years?) this code will mature maybe it can be further generalised and adopted by more sites/capsules
17:52 Techrights-sec; however, should the pre within a block quote be treated as a quote, as it is
17:52 Techrights-sec; for now, or should it be treated as preformatted text? I think if it turns up
17:52 Techrights-sec; outside the blockquote it should be preformatted.
17:53 schestowitz-TR; assuming that over time (years?) this code will mature maybe it can be further generalised and adopted by more sites/capsules
17:53 schestowitz-TR; '''
17:53 schestowitz-TR; with slanted apostrophes
18:00 Techrights-sec; I'd say it started out tied to the specific layout of TR and has only grown
18:00 Techrights-sec; more tightly tied to that formatting.
18:01 schestowitz-TR; I can change my templates to retrofit the specs of gemini if you guide me through...
18:07 Techrights-sec; AFAIK nothing needs changing, just consistency. So continue as before and the
18:07 Techrights-sec; scripts keep working. :/
18:07 Techrights-sec; some commits pushed into Git now
18:08 schestowitz-TR; excellent. btw, i got a lot more info on github and there's strong consensus we deal with sockpupptry now
18:10 Techrights-sec; can HN / Reddit be compelled to provide material for 'discovery' ?
18:10 Techrights-sec; A secondary benefit would show how they 1) work *for* M$ and its minions, and
18:10 Techrights-sec; 2) how they censor like crazy to further those goals
18:10 schestowitz-TR; there might be a counter-suit for defamation
18:11 Techrights-sec; SLAPP
18:11 Techrights-sec; The lawyers would know better but suits like that would be considered harassing
18:11 Techrights-sec; since truth is not defamation.
18:11 Techrights-sec; [ytalk] 0:ytalk*
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20:40 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.eu/MP49882400/status/1480981497230381060#m
20:40 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.eu | MP (@MP49882400): "People are so laughingly nave. Look at his name and pic! Doesn't even have Wiki. Bio scrubbed everywhere. "Started from basement" fairy tale! Look at "partnerships"! Yes, marginally better controlled op - 1st link found by duck. http://techrights.org/2020/07/02/ddg-privacy-abuser-in-disguise/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo" | nitter
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