-- Leo's gemini proxy

-- Connecting to gemini.techrights.org:1965...

-- Connected

-- Sending request

-- Meta line: 20 text/gemini;lang=en-GB

IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, November 10, 2022

back to Techrights (Main Index)


1 AM, November 10

01:06 *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)

01:06 *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)

01:12 *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@qqashmmai9reg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

01:12 *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell

01:23 *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)

01:23 *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)

01:57 *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)


2 AM, November 10

02:23 *Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)

02:31 *Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-49a.8n8.i4ua3j.IP) has joined #boycottnovell

02:54 schestowitz-TR; so my theory was correct

02:54 schestowitz-TR; 11k laid off at FB is just round 1

02:54 schestowitz-TR; there might be 3 rounds at least


4 AM, November 10

04:22 *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving)

04:23 *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@egupbynb2qmf2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell


5 AM, November 10

05:32 *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving)

05:33 *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

05:35 *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@wbbz7p3sasfe2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

05:46 *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell

05:47 *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@qqashmmai9reg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell


8 AM, November 10

08:42 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell

08:42 *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving)

08:55 Techrightssec; FB doesn't need so many people any more now that the election has been tripped

08:55 Techrightssec; up properly.

08:55 Techrightssec; Also people realize that although addicted social control media is a waste of

08:55 Techrightssec; time.

08:55 Techrightssec; http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-091122.html#tNov%2009%2017:28:21

http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-091122.html#tNov%2009%2017:28:21

08:55 Techrightssec; Many countries have laws prohibiting making such lists especially when they

08:55 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

08:55 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, November 09, 2022

08:55 Techrightssec; encompass politics or ethnicity or religion. FB does this explicitly as well

08:55 Techrightssec; as being able to generate more fine-tuned lists by aggregating several of

08:55 Techrightssec; the data points they collet on people.

08:55 Techrightssec; [citation for the specific laws needed, esp Germany]

08:55 Techrightssec; ^ topic ?

08:56 schestowitz-TR; thanks, I\ve put that down as a topic

08:56 Techrightssec; np

08:57 Techrightssec; They not only do they have those lists as explicit data points but also can

08:57 Techrightssec; generate them and worse on the fly.

08:58 schestowitz-TR; musk says he wants to authenticate users

08:58 schestowitz-TR; that would eliminate many dissident accounts overnight

08:58 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell


9 AM, November 10

09:01 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

09:03 Techrightssec; Musk neither knows what he is doing nor cares. It is a mystery how he or

09:03 Techrightssec; his sponsors are going to recover $44bn from what's left of Twitter.

09:03 Techrightssec; Maybe throw a few more elections over time.

09:03 Techrightssec; Like they've helped do so far.

09:08 Techrightssec; Eliminating 'dissident' accounts would be a happy side effect for his sponsors.

09:08 Techrightssec; They have an active history in suppressing dissidents, with or without the

09:08 Techrightssec; use of tandoori ovens.

09:16 Techrightssec; Links scripts can now run on tr-new, but a smooth work flow must be figured out

09:16 Techrightssec; first, especially in regards to Git. Maybe Git should be moved to tr-new first?

09:17 schestowitz-TR; yes, now is a good time as I have time and we don't make many changes at git

09:18 schestowitz-TR; ina dn out of kitchen atm, we got some very cheap pumpkins

09:51 *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)


10 AM, November 10

10:00 *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

10:05 *starstreak has quit (Quit: Leaving)


11 AM, November 10

11:23 Techrightssec; Tomorrow is Armistice Day

11:23 Techrightssec; Could you please add a cname for git.techrights.org pointing at

11:23 Techrightssec; news.techrights.org ?

11:23 Techrightssec; Thanks

11:24 schestowitz-TR; sure, give me 20 mins to finish Daily Links and my mug of tea

11:24 schestowitz-TR; anyway, dns will take time to propagate

11:30 schestowitz-TR; pc has not crashed for nearly 2 days now

11:30 schestowitz-TR; my mom got mumble working

11:30 schestowitz-TR; going to do the task while posting some "merged"

11:30 schestowitz-TR; multitasking is very difficult

11:31 schestowitz-TR; at least irc is calm

11:39 schestowitz; We successfully saved the following A record for techrights.org: git.techrights.org.

11:46 Techrightssec; thanks

11:46 Techrightssec; works from here

11:53 Techrightssec; locking the old Git account

11:53 schestowitz-TR; great!


noon, November 10

12:16 Techrightssec; Seems to work. Same keys. Point at git.techrights.org now

12:19 *Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)

12:19 *Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-uua.rkc.l1fhkg.IP) has joined #boycottnovell


1 PM, November 10

13:07 schestowitz-TR; FCC and 5G https://www.propublica.org/article/fcc-5g-wireless-safety-cellphones-risk | Source: Pro Publica http://techrights.org/2021/12/27/fact-based-5g-criticism/

↺ https://www.propublica.org/article/fcc-5g-wireless-safety-cellphones-risk

http://techrights.org/2021/12/27/fact-based-5g-criticism/

13:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.propublica.org | How the FCC Shields Wireless Providers From Safety Concerns ProPublica

13:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | What Real (Fact-Based) 5G and Privacy Issues the Media Casually Distracts From | Techrights

13:33 *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

13:49 *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)

13:49 *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)

13:51 *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell

13:51 *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@qqashmmai9reg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

13:55 schestowitz-TR; in the truthout rss feed, all the titles are not the headline but say "RSS Circle Icon" in merged-

13:55 schestowitz-TR; maybe soomething has changed in the site or the software chain


2 PM, November 10

14:01 Techrightssec; checking the site, the software has not changed in a while

14:04 schestowitz-TR; due to new deserts, no sites has been worth adding in a while

14:04 schestowitz-TR; some quietly died down, e.g. fossforce

14:04 schestowitz-TR; evewn craig murray is not blogging much these days

14:04 schestowitz-TR; and when he does, it's not esp. interesting/important

14:04 schestowitz-TR; IndyRef, Assange etc. gradually become "old news"

14:04 schestowitz-TR; and he himself becomes old

14:04 schestowitz-TR; I checked assange news this morning, found a few

14:04 schestowitz-TR; not using search but a filter through all my feeds

14:04 schestowitz-TR; polsted in ric and some in Links

14:04 Techrightssec; I wonder what's up. There are hundreds of defunct sites listed in the OPML file

14:04 Techrightssec; here.

14:04 Techrightssec; Speaking of Assange, there seems to be news blackout on him. Some trouble

14:04 Techrightssec; would then be brewing. It's probably time to check if any updates can be found.

14:07 Techrightssec; Interesting, the parser chokes on an embedded SVG which also contains a //title

14:07 Techrightssec; XPath. Fortunately another XPath can be found for the feed.

14:08 schestowitz-TR; there are no strict standards for those things

14:08 schestowitz-TR; same for html

14:08 schestowitz-TR; specs

14:08 Techrightssec; It shouldn't be a problem it is just that the parser pre-dates that practice

14:08 Techrightssec; by many years.

14:10 Techrightssec; The W3C Validtaor shows lots of full Errors with that site

14:10 Techrightssec; so it's not a surprise that the content can be a be wonky.

14:11 schestowitz-TR; this site is generally ok and worth keeping

14:11 schestowitz-TR; a lot of that is commondream repsosts, but not all

14:11 schestowitz-TR; they rarely say things that are very obv. false or inflammatary

14:11 Techrightssec; Yes.

14:15 schestowitz-TR; i think that rather than radar detectors now you have some people with "apps" that help report

14:15 schestowitz-TR; where to slow down

14:15 schestowitz-TR; but i stopped driving ages ago

14:15 schestowitz-TR; and lack the incentive to buy a car based on what I read, inc. last week about cars with 3g in them losing functionality after

14:15 schestowitz-TR; as little as one decade

14:15 schestowitz-TR; rianne's dad still drives a 30 yo clunker

14:19 schestowitz-TR; maybe buy a tesla and wait fore the 20th MASS recall of 2022

14:19 schestowitz-TR; maybe after twitter musk will have some loose change left to issue compensation

14:19 schestowitz-TR; rather than give the inconvenience of NOT having a car for WEEK

14:19 schestowitz-TR; just waiting to get back what you ALREADY paid for

14:19 schestowitz-TR; based on false advertising

14:19 schestowitz-TR; e.g. brakes that actually work

14:19 schestowitz-TR; and stweering wheel that - gasp - allows YOU to control the car

14:19 schestowitz-TR; dfc told a story yesterday on how kia takes over the wheel

14:19 schestowitz-TR; I thought it was limited to brakes and sometimes throttle

14:19 schestowitz-TR; i reckon today's pedal are like "arcade" pedals

14:19 schestowitz-TR; nothing physical behind them, just like a fucking button

14:20 schestowitz-TR; they gradually turn "CAR SIMULATORS" into actual cars!

14:20 schestowitz-TR; That's NOT how it's means to work, the other war around

14:20 schestowitz-TR; *meany

14:20 schestowitz-TR; *meant

14:28 *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)

14:29 *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

14:34 Techrightssec; Stripe apparently laid off 14% of its work force the other day, too.

14:34 Techrightssec; When humanoids like zuckerberg 'take full responsibility', what kind of

14:34 Techrightssec; responsibility is it? Where are the penalties, of any kind?

14:35 schestowitz-TR; come to mumble

14:36 schestowitz-TR; ours (for 2 mins)


4 PM, November 10

16:31 schestowitz-TR; Gmail is not E-mail and it works UNLIKE or AGAINST E-mail. Tell people to dumb GMail and use REAL E-mail. https://www.maketecheasier.com/google-eliminating-original-gmail-design/

↺ https://www.maketecheasier.com/google-eliminating-original-gmail-design/

16:31 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.maketecheasier.com | Google Eliminating Option to Revert to Original Gmail Design - Make Tech Easier

16:39 Techrightssec; further web-mail is not e-mail and is not even a suitable client for most work

16:39 Techrightssec; flows; it's a toy


5 PM, November 10

17:22 schestowitz-TR; NHS Approach to 'Solving' COVID-19: Abandon Transparency and Abandon Testing https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/10/abandoning-transparency/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/10/abandoning-transparency/

17:22 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive NHS Approach to Solving COVID-19: Abandon Transparency and Abandon Testing

17:23 *Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)

17:24 *Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-eun.oi4.qunln7.IP) has joined #boycottnovell

17:32 schestowitz-TR; Now MICROSOFT tells Mozilla how to do Thunderbird https://blog.thunderbird.net/2022/11/important-message-for-microsoft-office-365-enterprise-users/ see http://techrights.org/2022/09/25/microsoft-vs-pop-and-imap/

↺ https://blog.thunderbird.net/2022/11/important-message-for-microsoft-office-365-enterprise-users/

http://techrights.org/2022/09/25/microsoft-vs-pop-and-imap/

17:32 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.thunderbird.net | Important Message For Microsoft Office 365 Enterprise Users

17:32 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft is Trying to Eliminate POP3 and IMAP for E-mail (Attack on Commodity or Standard Protocols) | Techrights

17:40 Techrightssec; ack

17:40 Techrightssec; :(

17:40 Techrightssec; Not a surpise. Google, which is Baker's boss, is fully infiltrated by m=

17:40 Techrightssec; microsofters

17:41 Techrightssec; It looks like both M$ and Google are trying to close the door and hold

17:41 Techrightssec; captive those stuck on their respective "mail" services.

17:54 *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)

17:54 *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)


6 PM, November 10

18:29 Techrightssec; Git seems to be ok in its new home on tr-new

18:29 Techrightssec; I think most or all of the dependencies are in place for the links scripts

18:29 Techrightssec; there too

18:30 schestowitz-TR; wow, that was fast!

18:30 schestowitz-TR; I've nearly cleaned the rss feeds, news id DEAD SLOW

18:30 schestowitz-TR; this week more so

18:30 schestowitz-TR; so far I have that one topic (FB) and maybe some EPO

18:51 schestowitz-TR; "The golden age of globalisation, in 1990-2010, was something to behold"... debt piling up until explosion while few thieves amass all the capital https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/11/the-restructuring-of-global-supply-chains.html

↺ https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/11/the-restructuring-of-global-supply-chains.html

18:51 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.irvingwb.com | Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Changing Structure of Global Supply Chains

18:51 schestowitz-TR; [18:44] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- blog.irvingwb.com | Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Changing Structure of Global Supply Chains

18:51 schestowitz-TR; [18:46] <techrights-news> And that's quoting The Economist, which is literally edited by a Rothschild. https://www.economist.com/britain/2022/11/10/remembering-evelyn-de-rothschild-chairman-of-the-economist-for-17-years

↺ https://www.economist.com/britain/2022/11/10/remembering-evelyn-de-rothschild-chairman-of-the-economist-for-17-years

18:52 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Remembering Evelyn de Rothschild, chairman of The Economist for 17 years | The Economist

18:52 schestowitz-TR; [18:46] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- Remembering Evelyn de Rothschild, chairman of The Economist for 17 years | The Economist

18:52 schestowitz-TR; [18:47] <techrights-news> "Remembering Evelyn de Rothschild, chairman of The Economist for 17 years. The banker, philanthropist and bon viveur died on November 7th" -Rothschild-run paper, The Economist. When will MSM criticise an oligarch posthumously? Oh, "philanthropist"... really?

18:52 schestowitz-TR; [18:47] <techrights-news> People online: quote a reputable source! Like one owned by billionaires.

18:52 schestowitz-TR; major coincidence: I looked up the name of the guy who runs the economist with a relative

18:52 schestowitz-TR; and today they announced that he had died days ago

18:52 schestowitz-TR; only 3 hours ago!

18:52 schestowitz-TR; just when I looked it up

18:53 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft down, Microsoft down, and Microsoft not even listed anymore (going extinct on the Web) https://news.netcraft.com/archives/202

↺ https://news.netcraft.com/archives/202

18:53 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://news.netcraft.com/archives/202 )

↺ https://news.netcraft.com/archives/202

18:53 schestowitz-TR; 2/11/10/november-2022-web-server-survey.html


7 PM, November 10

19:12 Techrightssec; :(

19:12 Techrightssec; MSM will never criticize money

19:37 schestowitz-TR; "Both Thonny and Visual Studio Code are built in to the Raspberry Pi OS." https://www.maketecheasier.com/thonny-vs-visual-studio-code-raspberry-pi/ WHAT???

↺ https://www.maketecheasier.com/thonny-vs-visual-studio-code-raspberry-pi/

19:37 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.maketecheasier.com | Thonny vs. Visual Studio Code: Which One Is Better for the Raspberry Pi User? - Make Tech Easier

19:38 schestowitz-TR; if raspi is not PRE-bundling PROPRIETARY, SPYWARE, of MICROSOFT... then it needs to be reported

19:38 schestowitz-TR; afaik, debian might have something to say too

19:38 schestowitz-TR; (if that's true)

19:40 schestowitz-TR; if microsoft now uses this company to make an "installedbase" to spy on

19:40 schestowitz-TR; and lock iin a generation of coders

19:40 schestowitz-TR; then we need to find out who and when

19:40 schestowitz-TR; if..

19:42 Techrightssec; s/not/now/ ??

19:42 schestowitz-TR; yes, critical typo

19:44 Techrightssec; remember that m$ and others push crap then walk it back under duress only

19:44 Techrightssec; to wait for the fuss to die down and roll back the same changes plus worse

19:44 Techrightssec; later when no one is watching any more

19:44 *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)

19:44 Techrightssec; ack

19:44 Techrightssec; s/not/now/ ??

19:44 Techrightssec; remember that m$ and others push crap then walk it back under duress only

19:44 Techrightssec; to wait for the fuss to die down and roll back the same changes plus worse

19:44 Techrightssec; later when no one is watching any more

19:44 schestowitz-TR; is there a quick way to check without installing the OS

19:44 schestowitz-TR; ?


8 PM, November 10

20:02 Techrightssec; checking

20:03 schestowitz-TR; it is hard to fit WIndows on these (many spam articles tried promoting that last week!)

20:03 schestowitz-TR; so they will try to turn Linux into Microsoft

20:03 schestowitz-TR; OLPC XO

20:03 schestowitz-TR; but again, worth verifying before writing anything

20:06 Techrightssec; http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/dists/bullseye/main/binary-arm64/Packages

↺ http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/dists/bullseye/main/binary-arm64/Packages

20:06 Techrightssec; someone more familiar with Debian derivatives will have to assess that, but

20:06 Techrightssec; it's there :/

20:06 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Missing content type. Ignoring.

20:06 schestowitz-TR; in repo or IMG?

20:06 schestowitz-TR; if only in the repos, then less of a big deal

20:06 schestowitz-TR; esp. is the repo is now microsoft.com

20:07 schestowitz-TR; NOT

20:07 schestowitz-TR; and if not added secretly to existing devices

20:07 schestowitz-TR; though obv. it's still proprietary and still CrimeSoft

20:07 Techrightssec; but not by default, just the repository

20:07 Techrightssec; The repository in question is archive.raspberrypi.org not anything m$

20:07 Techrightssec; that much is good.

20:08 schestowitz-TR; in that case, the aforementioned article is, at best, poorly worded

20:08 Techrightssec; It seems that the article is based on out of date or just plain wrong assumptions and poorly worded.

20:09 schestowitz-TR; a bit of a relief tbh

20:11 Techrightssec; What actually is problematic is when official RPi articles go out of their

20:11 Techrightssec; way to boost m$ gimmicks or show images featurign m$ logos and displays

20:12 schestowitz-TR; one 'solution' is to help accelerate the demmise of the "Vole"

20:12 schestowitz-TR; like netcraft

20:12 schestowitz-TR; see the damage they dop to OSI

20:12 schestowitz-TR; I update my post 5 mins ago

20:12 schestowitz-TR; OSI is dead, stick a fork in that POS

20:14 Techrightssec; ack

20:15 schestowitz-TR; there is nothing to write about :-)

20:15 schestowitz-TR; but it's good that we debunk false 'news'

20:15 schestowitz-TR; even if just in passing

20:15 schestowitz-TR; i'll have enough for more Daily Links soon, I think 4th batch for today

20:20 Techrightssec; quality is more important than quality with links, especially since

20:20 Techrightssec; they good ones can be combined and used as topics for articles

20:20 schestowitz-TR; many are seen through rss

20:20 schestowitz-TR; making it compact is useful

20:21 schestowitz-TR; A vastly better approach would be to make a Gemini capsule for LWN https://lwn.net/Articles/914410/

↺ https://lwn.net/Articles/914410/

20:21 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-A pair of new LWN site features [LWN.net]

20:24 *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell


9 PM, November 10

21:45 *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@g3jnesygbvdni.irc) has joined #boycottnovell


10 PM, November 10

22:05 *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)

22:28 *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell


11 PM, November 10

23:21 *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell

23:21 *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@qqashmmai9reg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell


IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, November 10, 2022


back to Techrights (Main Index)

-- Response ended

-- Page fetched on Sun May 19 17:00:45 2024