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08:28 schestowitz-TR; LOL! Lunduke is back on YouTube..
08:28 schestowitz-TR; I assume he's also back in Twitter, but did not check
08:28 schestowitz-TR; Anything he says is not credible.
08:28 schestowitz-TR; he posted a new video in YoiuTube just now...
08:28 schestowitz-TR; desperate for audience
08:35 Techrights-sec; :(
08:35 Techrights-sec; Probably. I guess at this point it is necessary to admit that he is completely
08:35 Techrights-sec; full of shit and should be 99% - 100% ignored.
08:35 Techrights-sec; If he wanted an audience, he should work on some actual relevant content
08:35 Techrights-sec; not just blathering and bloviations. They might be amusing once or twice, for
08:35 Techrights-sec; some subset of the population, but without any substance there is no reason
08:35 Techrights-sec; to even check on what he is doing. Along those lines, some weeks ago I notice
08:35 Techrights-sec; that I hadn't even been checking his RSS feed and then moved his feed into
08:36 Techrights-sec; a subfolder for defunct feeds. :/
08:36 Techrights-sec; It's been there in that folder since...
08:36 Techrights-sec; I wish him well and would prefer that he would refocus on FOSS-related topics
08:36 Techrights-sec; once again.
08:36 Techrights-sec; But if I want blather I can talk to myself / think outloud just fine on my
08:36 Techrights-sec; own without Youtube.
08:37 schestowitz-TR; yesterday fossforce was brought up
08:37 schestowitz-TR; it used to raise funds and had ken starks on
08:37 schestowitz-TR; then it became an anti-FSF bbyfield dump
08:37 schestowitz-TR; then some other thins
08:37 schestowitz-TR; like "quiz"
08:37 schestowitz-TR; that stopped about a month ago
08:37 schestowitz-TR; the site's purpose is unknown
08:38 schestowitz-TR; then there are some sites I followed for years -- sites that were OK
08:38 schestowitz-TR; they started experimenting with SEO spam and spamfarming
08:39 schestowitz-TR; really awful
08:39 schestowitz-TR; like, what do they think? Longtime readers won't notice?
08:39 schestowitz-TR; Then there's spamnil turning muktware/themukky/linuxveda into a junkfarm of proprietary people, "tfir"
08:41 Techrights-sec; I've wondered about Ken from time to time, now that he is reaching the
08:41 Techrights-sec; end of the trail and cannot participate in anything any more. His programme
08:41 Techrights-sec; ReGlue was great
08:41 Techrights-sec; Now I wonder what / how FOSSForce and many other sites have been turned so
08:41 Techrights-sec; hostile to FOSS and, in particular, Software Freedom and how they have come
08:41 Techrights-sec; to thrive on disinformation on many topics.
08:43 schestowitz-TR; some years ago phil shapio (son of unicef exec iirc) and roblimo did work with fossforce
08:43 schestowitz-TR; that was before bbyfield took over for 1-2 years
08:43 schestowitz-TR; to better understand fossforce now see the rms cancel letter, the LF ads in fossforce (diploma mills)
08:43 schestowitz-TR; then contrast with older fossforce articles about how LF sucks
08:43 schestowitz-TR; what changed the policy?
08:43 schestowitz-TR; billg and epstein at mit?
08:43 schestowitz-TR; lf donating $100,000,000 to community devs?
08:43 schestowitz-TR; rms eating babies?
08:51 schestowitz-TR; about to finish my 3rd night shift in a row, will have 3 days off after this
08:56 Techrights-sec; ack
09:01 Techrights-sec; Roblimo died a while back.
09:01 Techrights-sec; https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/rip-robin-roblimo-miller
09:01 Techrights-sec; The second generation is dying off / retiring. The newer generations have
09:01 Techrights-sec; been indoctrinated in anti-FOSS and even anti-OSS attitudes since their
09:01 Techrights-sec; earliest days, so there are as a result very, very few skilled people in
09:01 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linuxjournal.com | RIP Robin "Roblimo" Miller | Linux Journal
09:01 Techrights-sec; computing coming in to replace anyone.
09:02 schestowitz-TR; some old timers too participated in the coup
09:02 schestowitz-TR; so age groups are not the best criterion for pro- or anti-
09:02 schestowitz-TR; joe barr died ages ago
09:02 schestowitz-TR; i reckon his linux.com articles are gone or lost in a sea of webspam
09:05 Techrights-sec; Yes, thus the reference to disinformation further above.
09:05 Techrights-sec; Yes, Barr was another important author. There were never any public details of
09:05 Techrights-sec; his sudden demise.
09:05 Techrights-sec; Some of his articles are still around, but likely buried, as you point out.
09:05 Techrights-sec; https://www.linux.com/news/my-first-10-years-linux/
09:05 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-My first 10 years with Linux - Linux.com
09:05 schestowitz-TR; I showed what happens whewn you search linux.com for microsoft
09:05 schestowitz-TR; I think the word "shrine" in the the title in case you want to find that
09:06 Techrights-sec; That aritcle mentions another publication, Infoworld, which used to cover FOSS
09:07 schestowitz-TR; Infoworld editor is a Microsoft boosters since a decade back
09:07 schestowitz-TR; Paul
09:09 Techrights-sec; Between 1 and 2 decades ago, pretty much all the publications were subsumed or
09:09 Techrights-sec; shutdown. Most authors, at least the ones with a clue, were fired as far
09:09 Techrights-sec; as I can tell.
09:09 Techrights-sec; Back then 2 hours was not even enough to do more than partially cover headlines
09:09 Techrights-sec; Now it is enough to cover *all* of them in the last 24 hours plus leave time
09:09 Techrights-sec; over to read some of the more promising one in full while skimming many of the
09:09 Techrights-sec; rest.
09:11 schestowitz-TR; idea:
09:11 schestowitz-TR; we did breakdown by sources beforef
09:11 schestowitz-TR; for daily links
09:11 schestowitz-TR; sort sets by year
09:11 schestowitz-TR; for linux news
09:11 schestowitz-TR; then analyse % that is blogs
09:11 schestowitz-TR; MSM
09:11 schestowitz-TR; and others
09:11 schestowitz-TR; plot difference
09:11 schestowitz-TR; in TM< we used to have many MSM or "tech press" links
09:11 schestowitz-TR; now it's mostly blogs
09:11 schestowitz-TR; this idea is only theoretical to 'make a point'
09:11 schestowitz-TR; no need to work hard to show what many people uintuitivelyt know already
09:13 Techrights-sec; It'd have to exclude the automated links.
09:13 Techrights-sec; That'd be some effort, tere are over 4k sites:
09:13 Techrights-sec; $ grep -c '=>' ./Links/lib/CamelCase.pm
09:13 Techrights-sec; 4068
09:13 Techrights-sec; I wonder if it would be appropriate to modify the CamelCase.pm module
09:13 Techrights-sec; to include categories for the type of source. Two downsides are that it would
09:13 Techrights-sec; bloat the hell out of that file and it would take an enornmous amount of
09:13 Techrights-sec; work to set up and then increase the amount of effort to maintain the whole thing
09:13 schestowitz-TR; I was actually thinking maybe we should add site name to links in <li> in TM
09:13 schestowitz-TR; like we do in TR daily links
09:13 schestowitz-TR; it would be better use of time and require no annotation of sites
09:20 Techrights-sec; NewsForge was rather good for many years but shut down suddenly, too.
09:20 Techrights-sec; Adding site names to links in <li> in TM would take a similar amount of
09:20 Techrights-sec; ongong maintenance as happens in TR. The work flow is build the list of links,
09:20 Techrights-sec; check the domains against the list of know bad sites, edit & repeat, check
09:20 Techrights-sec; the domains against the list of known sites, add missing sites, repeat,
09:20 Techrights-sec; fetch the automated links, merge the two files, cull empty nodes, then upload
09:20 schestowitz-TR; link diversity or source diversity is a lot smaller in TM
09:20 schestowitz-TR; so a few hundreds of domain would cover almost all links
09:20 schestowitz-TR; can just be a parser looking for <a href="domain
09:20 schestowitz-TR; and then preciding that with site "name"
09:20 Techrights-sec; The parser part is easy. The hard part is the list of domains.
09:23 schestowitz-TR; lol mastodon giving blank pages to falkon
09:23 schestowitz-TR; browser compatibility does not matter to them
09:24 schestowitz-TR; open standards are inapplicable to JS
09:24 schestowitz-TR; you can work around accessibility needs and standars
09:24 schestowitz-TR; just turn site into "app"
09:24 schestowitz-TR; and say it's "modern" and "app"
09:24 schestowitz-TR; problem solved
09:27 Techrights-sec; git log TuxMachines/ReadOn.pm
09:27 Techrights-sec; Open standards do not matter to them. Just download Chrome and only run it on
09:27 Techrights-sec; Vista11
09:27 Techrights-sec; $ git log TuxMachines/ReadOn.pm
09:27 Techrights-sec; shows little maintenance
09:27 Techrights-sec; beyond an intial setup
09:29 chunky; MY PENIS IS SMALL
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10:49 Techrights-sec; We can move that to Python if necessary but that data is what determines the
10:49 Techrights-sec; ability to add domains to the text preceding or following a link
10:59 Techrights-sec; over in TR:
10:59 Techrights-sec; $ git rev-list --count HEAD -- ./Links/lib/CamelCase.pm
10:59 Techrights-sec; 214
11:01 schestowitz-TR; that it because it has been around for a long time and gets used 2-5 times per day
11:01 schestowitz-TR; ATM, in TM it's mostly used if rianne or arindam or ocean guy post a link with a button
11:01 Techrights-sec; $ git rev-list --since 2022-08-01 --count HEAD -- ./CamelCase.pm
11:01 Techrights-sec; 25
11:05 schestowitz-TR; seems the media now gets weaponised against people it cannotn derank or deplatform in social control media
11:05 schestowitz-TR; and any study about mrna that does not favour the promises originall made (
11:05 schestowitz-TR; that two shots, then 3, then 4... would solve the issue) is treated like "crank" stuff
11:05 schestowitz-TR; using the straw man and the tribalism of US politiccs
11:05 schestowitz-TR; this is disgusting
11:05 schestowitz-TR; this tirbvalism tainted science now
11:05 schestowitz-TR; apparently they're back to bill gates "says" puff pieces
11:05 schestowitz-TR; and then they wonder why their "bews" sites collapse
11:05 schestowitz-TR; *news
11:05 schestowitz-TR; this and other stuff invades the irc channel again
11:05 schestowitz-TR; because of the troll who was muted last year
11:05 schestowitz-TR; the person who said "transphobic shit" needs another "card" for a grudge
11:05 schestowitz-TR; and off-putting "content"
11:07 Techrights-sec; The banksters have promoted their bullshit as of a few minutes ago to
11:07 Techrights-sec; rationalise the crises they have themselves made.
11:07 Techrights-sec; Yes that is the right term, weaponised.
11:07 Techrights-sec; The legitimate prize series, the one that was last week, had dealt with
11:07 Techrights-sec; DNA
11:07 Techrights-sec; ^P bo
11:07 Techrights-sec; The tribalism, like many other problems, got its serious start in the Reagan
11:07 Techrights-sec; administration. Social control media has given the Kremlin additional
11:07 Techrights-sec; abilities to divide.
11:10 schestowitz-TR; can you pls provide a link re banks and crises?
11:10 schestowitz-TR; I'm not reading 'politics' in real time (takes 1 day) and thus lack context
11:10 schestowitz-TR; we're surviving by being 'external' to most of the "system" since end of 2020 when covid-19
11:10 schestowitz-TR; went out of control again, and never contained since
11:10 schestowitz-TR; rianne noticed how the john campbell videos become fully peperred with him reiciing
11:10 schestowitz-TR; goulag guidelines in self-defence
11:10 schestowitz-TR; *peppered
11:12 Techrights-sec; https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/oral-history/financial-crisis/tags/subprime-mortgages/
11:12 Techrights-sec; There are also a bunch of academic papers as PDFs but I can't go through
11:12 Techrights-sec; them individually and evaluate them properly.
11:12 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.pbs.org | Subprime Mortgages & the Housing Bubble | Oral Histories | FRONTLINE | PBS
11:12 schestowitz-TR; BillBS
11:12 schestowitz-TR; have not clicked yet
11:12 schestowitz-TR; but the banksters will probably blame "lazy people" and "nature/china" (covid) for their own illegal actions
11:12 schestowitz-TR; there is BillPR
11:12 schestowitz-TR; BillBC
11:12 schestowitz-TR; and BillBS
11:12 Techrights-sec; e.g.
11:12 Techrights-sec; https://osuva.uwasa.fi/bitstream/handle/10024/11684/THESIS_UVA_2020_NASKI_LEENA.pdf
11:13 Techrights-sec; https://www.federalreserve.gov/pubs/feds/2010/201020/201020pap.pdf
11:19 schestowitz-TR; I'm still miffed as to how to obtain, analyse and calculate efficacy
11:19 schestowitz-TR; given that not everyone got the same product
11:19 schestowitz-TR; adn data is becoming more scarce over time
11:19 schestowitz-TR; but the sampelr set is vast e.g. death certs for almost 50 million english subjects
11:20 schestowitz-TR; I don't suppose universities get many grants to study these things
11:20 schestowitz-TR; "it happened in the past, let it be..."
11:20 schestowitz-TR; "there was nothing better we could do" (working from home did work better)
13:02 Techrights-sec; ack
13:23 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "Next release: 11 October 2022" https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales/2022 let's see how many died in September 2022 compared to prior Septembers. Don't give us the "but the lockdowns put people down" BS; in 2020 we have lockdowns and in 2022 no lockdowns. Deaths far higher this year.
13:23 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.ons.gov.uk | Deaths registered weekly in England and Wales, provisional - Office for National Statistics
13:24 schestowitz-TR; atm I study the death stats, by age and gender
13:24 schestowitz-TR; guess what, there are only two tables for gender
13:24 schestowitz-TR; until they get death threats at OSN
13:24 schestowitz-TR; ONS
13:24 Techrights-sec; hmmm
13:24 schestowitz-TR; anyway, I am tying to identify patterns
13:24 schestowitz-TR; we'll soon get data witrh the effect of the COVID surge
13:24 schestowitz-TR; each deathis a tragedy
13:24 schestowitz-TR; it's a family mourning
13:24 schestowitz-TR; it's hard to play down or hide deaths
14:06 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> England and Wales Summertime Deaths in 2020 versus 2022 (Spoiler: About 1,500 More Deaths Registered Per Week in 2022) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/10/covid19-and-summertimes/
14:06 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive England and Wales Summertime Deaths in 2020 versus 2022 (Spoiler: About 1,500 More Deaths Registered Per Week in 2022)
14:07 schestowitz-TR; all data as ODF
14:07 schestowitz-TR; and dealing with potential "criticism" upfront
14:08 Techrights-sec; ack
14:08 Techrights-sec; checking
14:09 schestowitz-TR; they don't use a consistent format across years!
14:09 schestowitz-TR; It makes comprison by age a HUGE task
14:09 schestowitz-TR; it always required some data transformation just to get the weekly numbers
14:09 schestowitz-TR; changes in sheets and row/column style
14:09 schestowitz-TR; not making research any easier
14:09 schestowitz-TR; with this lack of consistency
14:13 schestowitz-TR; 3 main possibilities in my mind
14:13 schestowitz-TR; 1) war on nhs
14:13 schestowitz-TR; 2) bad vaccines (side effects)
14:14 schestowitz-TR; 3) long covid and other long-lasting effects after mass infection
14:14 schestowitz-TR; you can have a pla with the data
14:14 schestowitz-TR; when dealing with HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of live
14:14 schestowitz-TR; *livew
14:14 schestowitz-TR; you get some rather stitistially-meaningful stuff
14:14 schestowitz-TR; *lives
14:14 schestowitz-TR; i thought about doing a video about this for my personal blog
14:14 schestowitz-TR; but first I want to do some graphs for ages, when time permittis (I cleaned by rss feeds, no FOSS topics to cover yet)
14:14 schestowitz-TR; also, I'm off work till thurs night!
14:14 schestowitz-TR; do you want to see greaphs for the two years overlaid, with age?
14:14 schestowitz-TR; I can do this, I'm OK with stats
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14:14 Techrights-sec; I'm not so good with statistics. If you have been able to normalize
14:14 Techrights-sec; the data then it shows that things have not slowed down at all
14:14 Techrights-sec; Yes, some simple graphs would help. What about one where the
14:14 Techrights-sec; data for the various years overlap? So one can see directly how similar they
14:14 Techrights-sec; are.
14:14 Techrights-sec; ?
14:16 schestowitz-TR; OK, I'm going to work on age group
14:16 schestowitz-TR; hypothesis: the increase in death is not affecting just very old people
14:16 schestowitz-TR; gender is not interesting because covid-19 does not 'discriminate' based on genitals
14:17 schestowitz-TR; it mostly kill old people, we know that
14:17 schestowitz-TR; and some races are more naturally immune than others
14:17 schestowitz-TR; but not immune completely
14:17 schestowitz-TR; coffee, will thinkw what to plot
14:17 schestowitz-TR; 2021 is when most people got shots
14:17 schestowitz-TR; but I'm not suggesting it's the sole factor (I mentioned 3 above)
14:18 Techrights-sec; It's probably based on other factors than race, though there is going to be
14:18 Techrights-sec; huge variation in severity of symptoms from individual to individual anyway
14:18 schestowitz-TR; I think nhs did not specify covid-19 deaths by race, or maybe ons did not spscify it, whereas nhs did in 2020 (I recall something)
14:18 schestowitz-TR; here, race has a lot to do with class (fiscal)
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14:26 schestowitz-TR; drat
14:26 schestowitz-TR; in 2019 even the age ranges were not the same
14:26 schestowitz-TR; so you cannot compare like with like
14:26 schestowitz-TR; maybe I'll find a way around it
14:26 schestowitz-TR; I'll do a "nasty" study that ignored completely old people
14:26 schestowitz-TR; and focuses on the younger
14:26 schestowitz-TR; as they too were subjected to all the same conditions, human-induced or natural
14:26 Techrights-sec; ack
14:28 schestowitz-TR; the hierarchy of ad hom:
14:28 schestowitz-TR; 1) you are not qualified
14:28 schestowitz-TR; 2) ok, you are, but you read the data wrong
14:28 schestowitz-TR; 3) the data might be wrong
14:28 schestowitz-TR; 4) "you're an idiot"
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14:47 schestowitz-TR; testing the hypothesis with my eyes, before spending a lot of time organising and plotting data
14:47 schestowitz-TR; i assume the trends are more or less than the other in other countries
14:47 schestowitz-TR; similar policies
14:47 Techrights-sec; ack
14:47 schestowitz-TR; wow, you can really tell people stopped having babies in 2020
14:47 schestowitz-TR; deahts for age <1
14:47 schestowitz-TR; 2019: 1807
14:48 schestowitz-TR; 2022: 1694
14:48 schestowitz-TR; so let's ignore very young babies too
14:48 schestowitz-TR; and focus on the middle band
14:48 schestowitz-TR; mortality at 1-14 the same (2019 and 2022), one apart:
14:48 schestowitz-TR; 686 in 2022
14:48 schestowitz-TR; 687 in 2019
14:48 schestowitz-TR; that's usually the age where the kids didn't get covid-19 vaccines
14:48 schestowitz-TR; looking up now
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14:58 schestowitz-TR; ages 15-44:
14:59 schestowitz-TR; 2019 10404
14:59 schestowitz-TR; oh.
14:59 schestowitz-TR; 2022 11384
14:59 schestowitz-TR; that's a surplus of about 9%
14:59 schestowitz-TR; 45s to 64s
14:59 schestowitz-TR; 2019 49296
14:59 schestowitz-TR; 2022 49424
14:59 schestowitz-TR; the aboove is a typo
14:59 schestowitz-TR; 2019 is 45296
14:59 schestowitz-TR; surpluss of about 9% again
14:59 schestowitz-TR; and I am being GENEROUS in FAVOUR of 2022
14:59 schestowitz-TR; because I round up the week to make 2022 look smaller
14:59 schestowitz-TR; if not, it would be about 10%
14:59 schestowitz-TR; so pre-covid-19 we had a lot fewer deaths in vaccinated ages groups
14:59 schestowitz-TR; deaths are about 10% higher after 2021
14:59 schestowitz-TR; and they say those deaths are barely due to covid
15:00 schestowitz-TR; if the deaths are not due to covid, then something else is killing like 10% more working age adults
15:00 Techrights-sec; ack
15:04 Techrights-sec; Perhaps smartphone addiction (sedentaary lifestyle) or ennui due to mental
15:04 Techrights-sec; health problems induced by smartphone addiction? :P
15:04 Techrights-sec; It takes a few years for a healthy individual to degenerate physically
15:04 Techrights-sec; through inactivity. I see "phone zombies" each time I go out shopping.
15:05 schestowitz-TR; "Smart" phones were already very prevalent in 2019
15:05 schestowitz-TR; but there could be a cumulative effect
15:05 schestowitz-TR; taking its toll like a phanton
15:05 schestowitz-TR; phone zombies tend to be the same indoors, albeit less visible
15:05 schestowitz-TR; and it is not (or no longer) limited to kids
15:05 schestowitz-TR; now we have computer users in kitchens, toilet seats, under a blanket...
15:05 Techrights-sec; I would presume the are the same indoors. It would be important to know
15:05 Techrights-sec; how many contact hours per day the victims waste interacting solely with
15:05 Techrights-sec; their smartphone "apps" and disservices.
15:05 Techrights-sec; Many partents use such devices, and tablet computers, as pacifiers.
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15:08 schestowitz-TR; rianne's newphew and mine are like that
15:08 schestowitz-TR; but it's more complicate
15:08 schestowitz-TR; with cards (to pay)
15:08 schestowitz-TR; and addictive games
15:08 schestowitz-TR; and them demanding (with ultimatum) access to things
15:08 schestowitz-TR; the patents don't offer it to them, they just surrender to it
15:08 schestowitz-TR; the DT video showed how pupils blackmails schools and teachers
15:08 schestowitz-TR; *blackmail
15:08 Techrights-sec; https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/police-concerned-100mph-snapchat-challenge-25201014
15:08 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/police-concerned-100mph-snapchat-challenge-25201014 )
15:09 schestowitz-TR; the cops can use the company to arrest a whole load of reckless idiots
15:09 schestowitz-TR; harvesting their IDs
15:10 schestowitz-TR; Horrible Injury at TwitchCon https://yewtu.be/watch?v=iIkfc2s0SqY Twitchcon Should Be Sued.. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wS2h0lNqYzs
15:10 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Horrible Injury at TwitchCon - Invidious
15:10 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Twitchcon Should Be Sued... - Invidious
15:11 schestowitz-TR; hole your wee to win a wii
15:11 schestowitz-TR; remember? *hold
15:11 Techrights-sec; If they don't kill any innocent bystanders.
15:12 schestowitz-TR; snapshot had LOADS of layoffs recently
15:12 schestowitz-TR; **chat
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15:39 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> ONS Data: Working Age Adults See 10% Rise in Mortality Between 2019 (Pre-COVID-19, January-September) and 2022 (Year to Present) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/10/ons-data-working-age-adults/
15:39 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive ONS Data: Working Age Adults See 10% Rise in Mortality Between 2019 (Pre-COVID-19, January-September) and 2022 (Year to Present)
15:40 Techrights-sec; Yes, among other similar layoffs
15:40 Techrights-sec; ack
15:40 schestowitz-TR; when I get more recent data (9 complete months) I will do charts etc.
15:40 schestowitz-TR; I've saved me working ODF locally for later use
16:16 schestowitz-TR; rianne out to ship parcel and buy food
16:16 schestowitz-TR; I've just done a 26 min video on the ONS data
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17:01 Techrights-sec; ack
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21:25 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> How Social Control Media Blocked, Suppressed, and Defamed Medical Journals That Issued Legitimate Warnings https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/10/social-control-media-vs-medical-journals/
21:25 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive How Social Control Media Blocked, Suppressed, and Defamed Medical Journals That Issued Legitimate Warnings
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