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9 AM, January 10

09:50 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2022/01/09/ppp-traitors/

http://techrights.org/2022/01/09/ppp-traitors/

09:50 schestowitz; [21:44] <schestowitz> those too can be interesting

09:50 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Pluton Proponents Working for Plutocracy (and Pentagon Agenda) | Techrights

09:50 schestowitz; [21:44] <schestowitz> we need to outline the series

09:50 schestowitz; [21:44] <Source> the series? the chain of events?

09:50 schestowitz; [21:44] <schestowitz> yes

09:50 schestowitz; [21:44] <schestowitz> it seems too long for one part

09:50 schestowitz; [21:45] <Source> Alex and I dated in 2019.

09:50 schestowitz; [21:45] <schestowitz> right at this moment we do a 28-part series

09:50 schestowitz; [21:45] <schestowitz> with 28+ long videos about them

09:50 schestowitz; [21:45] <Source> Lots of shit happened, but the overarching theme is he's a sociopath

09:50 schestowitz; [21:46] <schestowitz> not too shocking, as many who work there are

09:50 schestowitz; [21:46] <Source> I was looking for something sort of traditional and monogamous

09:50 schestowitz; [21:46] <schestowitz> they're attracted to power and impunity

09:50 schestowitz; [21:46] <Source> told him I didn't want to date anyone casually

09:50 schestowitz; [21:46] <Source> he took that seed and spun it into a mechanism of control

09:50 schestowitz; [21:47] <schestowitz> I should ask

09:51 schestowitz; [21:47] <Source> over time, he broke down my self esteem and got sexually violent

09:51 schestowitz; [21:47] <schestowitz> if any of this already public?

09:51 schestowitz; [21:47] <schestowitz> like names etc.?

09:51 schestowitz; [21:47] <schestowitz> (I need to know the level of sensitivity of names etc.)

09:51 schestowitz; [21:47] <Source> yes, I've already spoken about Alex publicly

09:51 schestowitz; [21:48] <schestowitz> any URLs?

09:51 schestowitz; [21:48] <Source> xxxxxxx

09:51 schestowitz; [21:48] <Source> Alex is claiming publicly that I stalked him which is a perversion of the truth

09:51 schestowitz; [21:49] <Source> basically he convinced me to let him cat sit for me and when I got back from vacation he broke up with me and wouldn't give me my keys back

09:51 schestowitz; [21:50] <Source> I confronted him at his parents house about it and he told me it was all about him feeling bad because I said something about him being in AA

09:51 schestowitz; [21:50] <schestowitz> page saved just in case

09:51 schestowitz; [21:51] <Source> we ended up dating another month during which the verbal and sexual abuse got worse

09:51 schestowitz; [21:52] <Source> we broke up, argued for a few months after which resulted in him sending all those messages about how he had tricked me intentionally because he needed a not real girlfriend because AA doesn't let you date in the first year

09:51 schestowitz; [21:52] <Source> This was all a reiteration of things he would say and then backtrack and gaslight me on

09:51 schestowitz; [21:53] <Source> like one time he told me that Grimes was personally slighting him because he didn't have Elon Musk's money

09:51 schestowitz; [21:53] <Source> which I wasn't sure if that was a joke or not but I didn't ask

09:51 schestowitz; [21:53] <schestowitz> Grimes?

09:51 schestowitz; [21:53] <Source> because he would have flipped out

09:51 schestowitz; [21:54] <Source> yeah, Elon Musk's girlfriend that makes trance music

09:51 schestowitz; [21:54] <Source> the one with the baby named after a password

09:51 schestowitz; [21:55] <Source> So, I reached out to Nat and some other people at this point

09:51 schestowitz; [21:55] <Source> he didn't respond.

09:51 schestowitz; [21:55] <schestowitz> OK, let's brainstorm this

09:51 schestowitz; [21:55] <Source> the last time I sent a DM to Nat on twitter was March 2020 with all these nasty messages in there

09:51 schestowitz; [21:56] <schestowitz> and draw up an outline

09:51 schestowitz; [21:56] <Source> Alex was hired at Github in April 2020

09:51 schestowitz; [21:56] <schestowitz> I'm doing a separate series about Switzerland at the moment, but your story is of high importance

09:51 schestowitz; [21:56] <schestowitz> why did you speak to de Icaza and when?

09:51 schestowitz; [21:57] <Source> Aug 11, 2021

09:51 schestowitz; [21:57] <Source> last time

09:51 schestowitz; [21:57] <schestowitz> OK

09:51 schestowitz; [21:57] <schestowitz> who reached out to who and why?

09:51 schestowitz; [21:57] <schestowitz> bear in mind he hates my guts

09:51 schestowitz; [21:57] <Source> first time Sep 12, 2020,

09:51 schestowitz; [21:58] <Source> I reached out to him

09:51 schestowitz; [21:58] <Source> this was before I posted to twitter

09:51 schestowitz; [21:58] <Source> Why? I think Alex need some serious mental help

09:51 schestowitz; [21:58] <schestowitz> I know what they will tell the media

09:51 schestowitz; [21:58] <schestowitz> to spike stories

09:51 schestowitz; [21:58] <Source> and shouldn't be in charge of anyone

09:52 schestowitz; [21:58] <Source> if you read the rant it contains both misogyny and elitism

09:52 schestowitz; [21:58] <schestowitz> I don't have to even tell you, it's the usual list of tricks

09:52 schestowitz; [21:59] <Source> he tells me to kill myself multiple times

09:52 schestowitz; [21:59] <schestowitz> I saw that

09:52 schestowitz; [21:59] <Source> that he was entitled to use me because I was "too stupid and useless"

09:52 schestowitz; [21:59] <schestowitz> CoPilot is awful for legal and technical reasons

09:52 schestowitz; [21:59] <Source> that he's the "top 1%"

09:52 schestowitz; [21:59] <schestowitz> maybe not for long

09:52 schestowitz; [22:00] <Source> "not real programmer" because I only know JS and do UX

09:52 schestowitz; [22:00] <schestowitz> if we explain gradually who he is

09:52 schestowitz; [22:00] <schestowitz> that can also undermine other interests of theirs

09:52 schestowitz; [22:00] <schestowitz> JS is programming

09:52 schestowitz; [22:00] <schestowitz> he's elitist

09:52 schestowitz; [22:00] <Source> JavaScript

09:52 schestowitz; [22:00] <Source> what's ironic is he doesn't know what functional programming is

09:52 schestowitz; [22:00] <schestowitz> ha

09:52 schestowitz; [22:01] <schestowitz> I did that age 15

09:52 schestowitz; [22:01] <schestowitz> I've not opened email yet, but please prepare all the notes

09:52 schestowitz; [22:01] <Source> Alex also likes to brag about being poor growing up and self made

09:52 schestowitz; [22:01] <schestowitz> later on we can pass them along over secure channels

09:52 schestowitz; [22:02] <schestowitz> this is secure, except you use mibbit

09:52 schestowitz; [22:02] <Source> his dad was a navy programmer, tech founder, and venture capitalist

09:52 schestowitz; [22:02] <schestowitz> I wrote many articles on bill pretending to become rich

09:52 schestowitz; [22:02] <schestowitz> he was born ultra-rich

09:52 schestowitz; [22:02] <schestowitz> but many people are conned by the false narrative

09:52 schestowitz; [22:02] <schestowitz> his parents set everything up for him

09:52 schestowitz; [22:02] <schestowitz> both patents

09:52 schestowitz; [22:02] <Source> I don't really have a problem with Jeff Lindsey persay

09:52 schestowitz; [22:03] <schestowitz> *parents

09:52 schestowitz; [22:03] <Source> but he said a lot of similar things that Alex did

09:52 schestowitz; [22:03] <Source> his was just nicer about it

09:52 schestowitz; [22:03] <schestowitz> let me brainstorm here

09:52 schestowitz; [22:03] <schestowitz> nothing confidential yet

09:52 schestowitz; [22:04] <schestowitz> we can frame the series like this

09:52 schestowitz; [22:04] <schestowitz> it's about who runs CoPilot

09:52 schestowitz; [22:04] <schestowitz> I can explain ethical issues associated with it

09:52 schestowitz; [22:04] <schestowitz> FSF does an essay contest about it already

09:52 schestowitz; [22:04] <schestowitz> then we look at who runs the unethical operation

09:52 schestowitz; [22:04] <Source> yes, the crux of the story is that Copilot is run by an abusive misogynist

09:52 schestowitz; [22:04] <schestowitz> in turn, we introduce the past

09:53 schestowitz; [22:05] <schestowitz> yes, that's the idea

09:53 schestowitz; [22:05] <schestowitz> but we need to show people proof

09:53 schestowitz; [22:05] <schestowitz> a side story is,

09:53 schestowitz; [22:05] <schestowitz> the media did not wish to cover that

09:53 schestowitz; [22:05] <schestowitz> hold onto all comms you have

09:53 schestowitz; [22:05] <schestowitz> not selective

09:53 schestowitz; [22:05] <Source> well, I can dig deeper on his thoughts on free speech

09:53 schestowitz; [22:05] <schestowitz> the whole lot

09:53 schestowitz; [22:05] <schestowitz> then we can name those who suppressed the victim

09:53 schestowitz; [22:06] <Source> I can't really prove anything with the journalists

09:53 schestowitz; [22:06] <Source> other than we talked and they rejected my story

09:53 schestowitz; [22:07] <schestowitz> that too is an issue

09:53 schestowitz; [22:08] <Source> I didn't project some non-existent relationship onto him. He pursued me aggressive. I lots of boundaries around what I wanted and didn't want.

09:53 schestowitz; [22:08] <Source> Lying about everything was natural to him

09:53 schestowitz; [22:09] <schestowitz> did he speak to you about illegal things he had done?

09:53 schestowitz; [22:09] <Source> drugs and stuff

09:53 schestowitz; [22:09] <Source> which I don't really have an issue with

09:53 schestowitz; [22:10] <Source> the drunk girl fetish

09:53 schestowitz; [22:10] <schestowitz> which he admitted to you?

09:53 schestowitz; [22:10] <Source> also told me that I "have the body of a 12 year old girl"

09:53 schestowitz; [22:10] <Source> 31 at the time

09:53 schestowitz; [22:11] <Source> he also said that the original plan for Copilot was Alex would start a company and work with Nat behind the scenes to build it to get acquired by Github

09:53 schestowitz; [22:12] <Source> which sounds like securities fraud, but I'm not a lawyer

09:53 schestowitz; [22:12] <Source> But yes, Alex has admitted to doing LSD and MDMA many many times

09:53 schestowitz; [22:12] <Source> which I can't say I have an issue with

09:53 schestowitz; [22:13] <Source> he kind of stole a car while we were together

09:53 schestowitz; [22:13] <schestowitz> that's a side thing

09:53 schestowitz; [22:13] <schestowitz> we're not into all the "war on drugs" thing

09:53 schestowitz; [22:13] <Source> he was driving a rental and they were calling him every day to return it

09:53 schestowitz; [22:13] <schestowitz> sociopath

09:53 schestowitz; [22:14] <Source> he also yelled at this woman at the impound when his car got towed

09:53 schestowitz; [22:14] <Source> He kept parking in places he shouldn't and said I'll just pay the fine

09:53 schestowitz; [22:14] <Source> this is Austin. cars get towed here all the time

09:53 schestowitz; [22:15] <Source> like that saying that a fine isn't a punishment, it's just the price to break the law

09:53 schestowitz; [22:15] <schestowitz> yes, I know that

09:53 schestowitz; [22:16] <schestowitz> common knowledge that they view it like that

09:53 schestowitz; [22:16] <Source> Alex is also suing me for defamation

09:53 schestowitz; [22:17] <schestowitz> on what grounds?

09:53 schestowitz; [22:17] <schestowitz> Tweets?

09:53 schestowitz; [22:18] <Source> xxxxxxxxx

09:54 schestowitz; [22:18] <Source> yeah, the tweets

09:54 schestowitz; [22:19] <Source> my lawyer thinks it's frivolous, but intended to silence me with legal fees

09:54 schestowitz; [22:20] <schestowitz> yes, that's what it is for

09:54 schestowitz; [22:20] <Source> that thread has all my thoughts on that

09:54 schestowitz; [22:20] <schestowitz> to prevent you reaching out to outlets

09:54 schestowitz; [22:20] <Source> Dan Price did it

09:54 schestowitz; [22:20] <schestowitz> and to tell journalists, "I sued her"

09:54 schestowitz; [22:20] <schestowitz> Trump did the same

09:54 schestowitz; [22:20] <Source> One journalist said there was concern about the legal activity

09:54 schestowitz; [22:20] <schestowitz> I've saved the page

09:54 schestowitz; [22:21] <schestowitz> obviously they will know who my source is

09:54 schestowitz; [22:21] <schestowitz> the key thing is,

09:54 schestowitz; [22:21] <schestowitz> not to give them headsup on what will be published next

09:54 schestowitz; [22:21] <schestowitz> as they can prepare

09:54 schestowitz; [22:21] <schestowitz> element of surprise help us in exposing the European Patent Office

09:54 schestowitz; [...]


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12:43 Techrights-sec; Council Directive 85/374/EEC of 25 July 1985, article 6.1 could be

12:43 Techrights-sec; revisited in the context of proprietary software:

12:43 Techrights-sec; https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:31985L0374&from=EN

↺ https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:31985L0374&from=EN

12:43 Techrights-sec; """

12:43 Techrights-sec; Article 6

12:43 Techrights-sec; 1. A product is defective when it does not provide the safety which a person is e

12:43 Techrights-sec; ntitled to expect, taking all circumstances into account, including:

12:43 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-eur-lex.europa.eu | EUR-Lex - 31985L0374 - EN

12:43 Techrights-sec; (a) the presentation of the product;

12:43 Techrights-sec; (b) the use to which it could reasonably be expected that the product would be pu

12:43 Techrights-sec; t;

12:43 Techrights-sec; (c) the time when the product was put into circulation.

12:43 Techrights-sec; """

12:50 Techrights-sec; np

12:50 Techrights-sec; m$ should not be allowed to abuse Art. 7b to try to dodge; any holes that exist

12:50 Techrights-sec; are there are the time of publication, public or not.

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13:24 Techrights-sec; https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/strict+liability

↺ https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/strict+liability

13:24 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com | Strict liability legal definition of strict liability

13:29 Techrights-sec; available for some discussion in mumble?

13:29 schestowitz-TR; yes, just a moment

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14:43 schestowitz; https://spectrum.ieee.org/stop-calling-everything-ai-machinelearning-pioneer-says#.YGiv6w3V8X4.twitter

↺ https://spectrum.ieee.org/stop-calling-everything-ai-machinelearning-pioneer-says#.YGiv6w3V8X4.twitter

14:43 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-spectrum.ieee.org | Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says - IEEE Spectrum


3 PM, January 10

15:13 Techrights-sec; thanks

15:22 schestowitz-TR; I have improved the video code (preview originally) and pushed, maybe will do videos about it

15:22 schestowitz-TR; video suggestions needed, not just welcome

15:22 schestowitz-TR; news is slow

15:23 Techrights-sec; ok, can check later today

15:23 Techrights-sec; thanks for the help earlier

15:23 schestowitz-TR; my pleasure, teaches me as much as it did you

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