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03:14 schestowitz-TR; Most of these are Microsoft Windows, but CISA fails to say so https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/11/08/cisa-adds-seven-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog
03:14 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cisa.gov | CISA Adds Seven Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog | CISA
03:15 schestowitz-TR; currently testing hypothesis about load and ram usage as culprits in system crashes
03:15 schestowitz-TR; just testing that possibility
03:28 Techrightssec; fwiw: http://techrights.org/2022/11/08/accounting-fraud-short-term-vision/
03:28 Techrightssec; where is the link pointing to the 80% drop in MSFT share prices?
03:28 Techrightssec; The headline makes that assertyion but it is not backed up in the body
03:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsofts Accounting Fraud and the Clown Computing Bubble Will Make It the Next Facebook (Share Price Collapsed by 80%) | Techrights
03:28 schestowitz-TR; FDB share price
03:28 schestowitz-TR; *FB
03:32 Techrightssec; Ok the headline is wrong then, since it says MSFT is down 80% and the article
03:32 Techrightssec; focuses on m$ all the way through.
03:32 Techrightssec; Running out of both RAM and swap should only kill userland processes first
03:32 Techrightssec; if I understand correctly.
03:33 schestowitz-TR; I read my headlines 5 time and did not think it would be confusing
03:33 schestowitz-TR; will correct...
03:33 schestowitz-TR; re "vonick" crashes, let me observe a bit more
03:33 schestowitz-TR; I run it in a more "minimalist" mode atm and check the behaviour
03:34 schestowitz-TR; I think a priority atm is figuring out the root cause
03:34 Techrightssec; Thanks
03:45 Techrightssec; How small is the swap file?
03:45 Techrightssec; In comparison how much RAM is there?
03:45 Techrightssec; Is there a core dump with the crash?
03:45 schestowitz-TR; 8gn and 8gb
03:45 Techrightssec; ack
03:46 schestowitz-TR; lately quiterss started eating up vastly more ram and I am not sure why
03:46 schestowitz-TR; not a linear increase
03:46 schestowitz-TR; i thought I got this under control in the attention sense
03:46 schestowitz-TR; but this is one theory I have anyway
03:46 schestowitz-TR; though it's probably not that
03:47 Techrightssec; QuiteRSS locks up very frequently, not sure what triggers it but I have to
03:47 Techrightssec; quit and save very often to keep using it.
03:47 Techrightssec; Anyway, is swap filling up prior to the crashes?
03:47 Techrightssec; free -m
03:51 Techrightssec; or sar
03:51 Techrightssec; or vmstat
03:51 Techrightssec; in a loop redirecting to a file
03:51 schestowitz-TR; thanks!
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04:07 Techrightssec; np
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04:23 schestowitz-TR; thanks for your patience
04:23 schestowitz-TR; anyway, I may soon have to shuffle around machines and alter workflows
04:23 schestowitz-TR; that's always a difficult task except when you look back whereupon it seems "obvious"
04:23 schestowitz-TR; optimisations are simple only in hindsight
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08:08 schestowitz-TR; Academics strike as wage theft spreads, uni executive salaries soar - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/academics-strike-as-wage-theft-spreads-uni-executive-salaries-soar/ Source: Michael West Media | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/academics-strike-as-wage-theft-spreads-uni-executive-salaries-soar/
08:08 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-michaelwest.com.au | Academics strike as wage theft spreads, uni executive salaries soar - Michael West
08:20 schestowitz-TR; tech is moving faster with the economic conditions arm
08:20 schestowitz-TR; *atm
08:20 schestowitz-TR; as companies that were never viable simply perish
08:20 schestowitz-TR; I wonder what replaces some of them
08:20 schestowitz-TR; maybe nothing
08:36 Techrightssec; Hopefully those that wash out are not replaced by other scams but then
08:36 Techrightssec; you have loads of "angel investors" with money burning holes in their pockets
08:36 Techrightssec; around to force bad ideas afloat long enough to bail via an IPO
08:44 schestowitz-TR; run and geese in a min
08:44 schestowitz-TR; bbl
08:44 schestowitz-TR; PC stable so far, will assume the worst at all times
08:46 Techrightssec; ack
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10:11 schestowitz-TR; testing to see if I can be in several network at the same time in mumble
10:12 schestowitz-TR; seems not
10:12 Techrightssec; ok
10:12 Techrightssec; I think you'd need separate instances of the client for that
10:23 schestowitz-TR; based on logs, I think I can see a correlation between nvme errors and times that the PC gives up
10:23 schestowitz-TR; although not every instance results in it
10:23 schestowitz-TR; so far today everything got "Corrected"
10:23 schestowitz-TR; but I can at least start to point the finger at that
10:24 schestowitz-TR; ok, now always on top in all desktops I have tail -f grep for drive warnings
10:24 schestowitz-TR; so maybe I can be forwarned
10:25 schestowitz-TR; I also want to be able to correlate activity with errors of this kind
10:25 schestowitz-TR; like, what triggers this more
10:34 Techrightssec; ack
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11:48 schestowitz-TR; thanks for Links
11:48 schestowitz-TR; hypotheis: LF not writing much, and there is a reason
11:48 schestowitz-TR; how to prove/method: show lack of output
11:48 schestowitz-TR; reason: cannot prove reason without insiders leaking out info
11:52 schestowitz-TR; ok, seems no blog posts in nearly 20 days
11:52 schestowitz-TR; but... I think they also broke their RSS feeds
11:52 schestowitz-TR; investigating a bit...
11:55 schestowitz-TR; omg, they breoke rss
11:55 schestowitz-TR; moved away from wordpress, I think
11:55 schestowitz-TR; I want to find "Generators"
11:55 schestowitz-TR; maybe they moved to proprietary
12:08 Techrightssec; ack
12:13 schestowitz-TR; draft
12:13 schestowitz-TR; (still in progress, no preview yet)
12:13 schestowitz-TR; maybe you can double-check the claims
12:13 schestowitz-TR; if true, it is a BIG deal
12:13 Techrightssec; ack
12:13 Techrightssec; They're still self-hosted: https://sitereport.netcraft.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flinux.com
12:13 Techrightssec; but here they are using "hubspot":
12:13 Techrightssec; https://sitereport.netcraft.com/?url=https://www.linuxfoundation.org
12:13 Techrightssec; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HubSpot
12:13 Techrightssec; "freemium"
12:13 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-sitereport.netcraft.com | Site report for https://linux.com | Netcraft
12:13 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-sitereport.netcraft.com | Site report for https://www.linuxfoundation.org | Netcraft
12:13 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | HubSpot - Wikipedia
12:13 schestowitz-TR; they are only sort of self-hosted
12:13 schestowitz-TR; i forgot the details
12:13 schestowitz-TR; but they use CF of fastly
12:13 schestowitz-TR; or some cdn that is proprietary
12:13 schestowitz-TR; so they hide behind something else
12:13 schestowitz-TR; last I checked
12:14 schestowitz-TR; no iis yet ;-)
12:14 Techrightssec; "freemium"
12:14 Techrightssec; linux.com is encumbered by cloudflare
12:14 schestowitz-TR; fixed some typos
12:14 schestowitz-TR; way back in the days we had real press that reported such "small" changes
12:14 schestowitz-TR; now, at least, someone might "TWEET" about it
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14:07 schestowitz-TR; (productive so far today; also no icidents; got a few potential topics, aiming to have 4 in total before
14:07 schestowitz-TR; recording)
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17:04 schestowitz-TR; fb 11k layoffs
17:04 schestowitz-TR; (just in)
17:08 psydruid; excellent news
17:08 psydruid; the job won't be done until every employee is gone
17:20 schestowitz-TR; zuck will shut down the lights
17:34 Techrightssec; Yes there are multiple articles about FB layoffs. How much did they padd
17:34 Techrightssec; the staffing last year though? If the size is the same as two years ago
17:34 Techrightssec; then there was really no net loss if the extra people recently added were
17:34 Techrightssec; fired. So it may be just for show.
17:34 Techrightssec; Hire'em to be able to fire'em and give the illusion of 'downsizing' which
17:34 Techrightssec; would pump the stock prices.
17:34 schestowitz-TR; we reckon it's first wave of several
17:34 schestowitz-TR; maybe 11k x 3
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17:40 schestowitz-TR; almost 24 hours now, without crash
17:40 schestowitz-TR; it is encouraging as I was worried the gaps between crashes decreased only
17:40 schestowitz-TR; I can see a few storage-related things in syslog in real time
17:40 schestowitz-TR; I cannot correlate them to any particular activity
17:41 schestowitz-TR; rianne speaks to cousin on mumble now
17:41 schestowitz-TR; it's very good for multi-person chats
17:41 schestowitz-TR; like with gemini, the hard part is helping people install and use a client
17:46 Techrightssec; ack
17:46 Techrightssec; The Mumble client also has noise cancellation for VistaX and GNU/Linux versions.
17:46 Techrightssec; That is important to have turned on in systems without headsets.
17:48 schestowitz-TR; right, yes, we are still adjusting that
17:48 schestowitz-TR; some trial and error
17:48 schestowitz-TR; and setting thresholds
17:48 schestowitz-TR; I really should re-invoke the wizard
17:48 schestowitz-TR; rianne uses the headset that has long been broken just for its microphone
17:48 schestowitz-TR; because her build-in mic never semed to work well at alkl
17:48 schestowitz-TR; maybe defective
17:49 schestowitz-TR; te headphones she uses at the moment is some old set I had 20+ years ago, IIRC
17:49 schestowitz-TR; only one side works, but that is how she uses them anyway
17:49 schestowitz-TR; we try to use things unless they have no value left
17:49 schestowitz-TR; even old clothes become rugs
17:50 Techrightssec;
17:50 Techrightssec; Ok. As long as headphones are used.
17:51 schestowitz-TR; no, laptop speakers are used
17:51 schestowitz-TR; so the microphone needs to be distanced physically
17:51 schestowitz-TR; I think with phones there is a lot of capability to deal with microphone and speaker phone
17:51 schestowitz-TR; as there was lots of demand for it
17:51 schestowitz-TR; maybe even the on-chip DSP does it at hardware level
17:51 Techrightssec; :/
18:35 schestowitz-TR; I am looking for a few more topics
18:35 schestowitz-TR; have not seen any url yet on fblayoffs
18:35 schestowitz-TR; someone posted the original from liarberg
18:35 schestowitz-TR; but that's not much to "go by"
18:39 schestowitz-TR; Can you smell the smoke where there is fire?
18:39 schestowitz-TR; if there a very obvious and odourous lie passing across the media atm?
18:39 schestowitz-TR; like, obv. fake storytelling?
18:40 Techrightssec; the influx of people from Twitter will be somewhat similar to
18:40 Techrightssec; the September That Never Ended in terms of problems brought in to the
18:40 Techrightssec; Fediverse. The lessons learned from The September That Never Ended
18:40 Techrightssec; could well be applied both correctively and proactively
18:40 Techrightssec; ^ topic ?
18:42 schestowitz-TR; DT published a video about this hours ago
18:42 schestowitz-TR; but I meant FB as that is the latest
18:42 schestowitz-TR; FB is also a much more menacing machine
18:42 schestowitz-TR; social control media going away is historically important (if that happens fully)
18:42 Techrightssec; His take was lacking in quite a few ways. Though I guess you and him are both
18:43 Techrightssec; the same generation and missed the hey days of Usenet, pre-spam, pre-AOL
18:44 schestowitz-TR; the qeuivalent that he used was gnu/linux
18:44 schestowitz-TR; and what happens when 'n00bs' come over and try to change it
18:44 schestowitz-TR; to suit their interests and they are the large numbers
18:44 schestowitz-TR; like canonical with snaps and omg!ubuntu
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18:52 Techrightssec; It would not be reasonable or appropriate for all people from Twitter to
18:52 Techrightssec; settle into the Fediverse, or at least not into the first instance they
18:52 Techrightssec; happen to log into. However, the Fediverse could do well and has it in its own
18:52 Techrightssec; interest to try to steer people to the relevant instances where they would have
18:52 Techrightssec; the greatest chance at integration. That has to be accompanied by orientation.
18:52 Techrightssec; The mistake that Usenet made was not taking into account that the community
18:52 Techrightssec; was outnumbered by the noobs and thus the traditional approach of letting
18:52 Techrightssec; time grind off the rough edges would no longer work. Same for the Fediverse
18:52 Techrightssec; and excessive application ofthe ban hammer helps no one, not even the instance
18:53 Techrightssec; doing the banning. Most people could probablly be sorted into an appropriate
18:53 Techrightssec; instance where they could thrive and benefit the comminity through their
18:53 Techrightssec; interaction. A very tiny few could even be motivated to set up their own
18:53 Techrightssec; servers, just like Leenode's implosion lead to an increase in independent
18:53 Techrightssec; IRC networks. However, running a Fediverse server of any kind neither scales
18:53 Techrightssec; nor is a reasonable amount of work even when just looking at the technical side
18:53 Techrightssec; and not taking into account the sheparding needed. See:
18:53 Techrightssec; https://www.techdirt.com/2022/11/02/hey-elon-let-me-help-you-speed-run-the-content-moderation-learning-curve/
18:53 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Hey Elon: Let Me Help You Speed Run The Content Moderation Learning Curve | Techdirt
18:53 Techrightssec; for the non-technical side(s)
18:55 schestowitz-TR; from his video that I saw, DT gave up on distro.toot now so much due to the admin
18:55 schestowitz-TR; requirements
18:55 schestowitz-TR; but moderation and babysitting
18:55 schestowitz-TR; which then expands to CROSS-instance bickering
18:55 schestowitz-TR; "I'll block you instance if you don't ban X for Y"
18:55 schestowitz-TR; you'd have to be a noob not to first consider what it means to set up
18:55 schestowitz-TR; some "hello world" and then wiring it with others'
18:55 schestowitz-TR; RSS is not the same
18:55 schestowitz-TR; because the polling is relaying directly to individuals
18:55 schestowitz-TR; planets are a thorny issue
18:55 schestowitz-TR; you have to suck up to a bunch of "can't code but I have brown shits"
18:56 Techrightssec; Yes there is a f-ton of bullying going on between instances.
18:56 Techrightssec; Yep
18:56 Techrightssec; and there are many wearing brown shirts of various cuts.
18:59 schestowitz-TR; for me, personally (I alwats say "i" in this article), the real solution is,
18:59 schestowitz-TR; abandon those platforms
18:59 schestowitz-TR; don't plead for people to use the "lesser s*"
18:59 schestowitz-TR; liberate them from all the s*
18:59 schestowitz-TR; but that's just me
18:59 schestowitz-TR; based on my own experience
18:59 schestowitz-TR; "nobody will give a shit what you TWEETED at 2pm 12 years ago and the 12,000 "likes" it got"
19:00 schestowitz-TR; -hypothetical stuff i could say
19:00 schestowitz-TR; if your book sells 100,000 copies, or 100k download it from the Web/p2p,
19:00 schestowitz-TR; that's a lot more "access" than a tweeet with 10 words and 1 emoji
19:00 schestowitz-TR; that will be offline years later
19:00 Techrightssec; Yes, abandoning all forms of social control media is probably the optimal
19:00 Techrightssec; solution but the above points still stand especially as it might take some
19:00 Techrightssec; time and several iterations for many of the public to come to the conclusion
19:00 Techrightssec; It's not about communication it is about dopamine
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19:04 Techrightssec; again social control media is about addiction and farming behaviors from useds
19:04 Techrightssec; not about actual communication. If communication were a factor, then
19:04 Techrightssec; algorithmic sorting would be unplugged and chronological sorting restored
19:06 schestowitz-TR; there are competing interests
19:06 schestowitz-TR; 1) advertisers (maximise screen time)
19:06 schestowitz-TR; 2) useds (give them what they want, inform them)
19:06 schestowitz-TR; twitter hardly ever made a profit
19:07 schestowitz-TR; even after it prioritised (1), as YouTube does morw and more each month
19:07 schestowitz-TR; spamnil hardly makes videos anymore
19:07 schestowitz-TR; but still sends his bots to cheat
19:07 schestowitz-TR; imagine today I saw one video dated 3.5 weeks ago with 9 views
19:07 schestowitz-TR; he forgot to to 'bot the shit out of it'
19:07 Techrightssec; AFAIK it only made a profit one or two quarters and has been losing millions
19:07 Techrightssec; per month the rest of the time
19:20 schestowitz-TR; it made a profit briefly while milking off trump to become the warzone
19:20 schestowitz-TR; and when shutting out third parties/apis around august 2018 (iirc)(
19:20 schestowitz-TR; to shift from useds (2) to REAL CUSTOMER (1) [above]
19:20 schestowitz-TR; brb
19:20 schestowitz-TR; rianne finished call
20:12 Techrightssec; ack
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