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1 AM, October 9

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08:05 schestowitz-TR; hahaha...

08:05 schestowitz-TR; so after posting like 100k posts in mastodon.technology for tuxmachines it is shutting down

08:05 schestowitz-TR; told you it's a bubble

08:05 schestowitz-TR; so everything I posted, even the comments, POOF!

08:11 Techrights-sec; ack

08:11 Techrights-sec; https://ashfurrow.com/blog/mastodon-technology-shutdown/

↺ https://ashfurrow.com/blog/mastodon-technology-shutdown/

08:11 Techrights-sec; "By November 1, 2022, the instance will be put into a readonly mode ..."

08:11 Techrights-sec; There will be until 1 Dec to migrate data.

08:11 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ashfurrow.com | mastodon.technology Shutdown | Ash Furrow

08:12 schestowitz-TR; migration probably won't even work ;-)

08:23 Techrights-sec; https://yewtu.be/latest_version?id=sLimmpZWRNI

↺ https://yewtu.be/latest_version?id=sLimmpZWRNI

08:23 Techrights-sec; about 17 minutes in he grumbles mildly about corporatism

08:23 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 429 @ https://yewtu.be/latest_version?id=sLimmpZWRNI )

↺ https://yewtu.be/latest_version?id=sLimmpZWRNI

08:24 Techrights-sec; (from the post earlier)

08:24 schestowitz-TR; I watched thw ehole thing

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08:45 schestowitz-TR; interesting:

08:45 schestowitz-TR; at around 3am the log for apache on techrights got rotated

08:45 schestowitz-TR; but apache is still writing to the old file handle

08:45 schestowitz-TR; i.e. the one with date at the end

08:45 schestowitz-TR; I cannot recall this every happening ebfore

08:45 schestowitz-TR; we need some arhiving page, like daily index

08:45 schestowitz-TR; I'm going to restart apache

08:46 Techrights-sec; :(

08:46 Techrights-sec; I hadn't seen that before either.

08:46 Techrights-sec; I was recently thinking about the possible migration next year and what needs

08:46 Techrights-sec; to be rewritten first.

08:46 Techrights-sec; Probably the best aproache

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9 AM, October 9

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10 AM, October 9

10:14 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Lady models, Chinese, as the new clickbait for ZDNet 'Linux' stories? https://www.zdnet.com/topic/linux/ totally off topic, one seems like clinician

↺ https://www.zdnet.com/topic/linux/

10:14 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Linux | ZDNET


11 AM, October 9

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11:27 Techrights-sec; No idea. Those must be stock photos. #######################################

11:56 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "The text of the letter is helpful because (to my eyes, at least) it makes clearmuch more clear than the news articles about itthat Musk is seeking an adjournment of the trial and his upcoming deposition without actually promising anything new or giving up anything at all."

11:57 schestowitz-TR; diaspora: collapsing

11:57 schestowitz-TR; FB: collapsing FAST (found some links)

11:57 schestowitz-TR; Twitter: at mercy of frauds

11:57 schestowitz-TR; Mastodon: going nowhere fast


noon, October 9

12:06 Techrights-sec; ack


1 PM, October 9

13:36 schestowitz-TR; draft

13:36 schestowitz-TR; adding a part about blogs now.

13:36 Techrights-sec; checking

13:36 Techrights-sec; probably ought to mention the relevant of self-hosting one's own blog. There are a *lot* of options from simple to complex, from doing it all yourself to

13:36 Techrights-sec; outsourcing larger components. Renting a domain name from a registrar is

13:36 Techrights-sec; not that large an annual cost, or at least I hope it is not.

13:36 Techrights-sec; well put


2 PM, October 9

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14:17 schestowitz-TR; you stand to lose the least

14:17 schestowitz-TR; people who never spent an iota of their time on those platforms

14:17 schestowitz-TR; but to be fair, they did have some benefits ages ago

14:17 schestowitz-TR; their mission and their UI was different once upon a time

14:19 Techrights-sec; ack

14:19 Techrights-sec; Twitter, especially, seemed a dumb idea from day one. However for mass

14:19 Techrights-sec; manipulation of behavior and opinion Bytedance is worst.

14:20 schestowitz-TR; i wonder what it looks like and how it works

14:20 schestowitz-TR; I'll try to find a video that explains this to me

14:32 schestowitz-TR; watching a video I will share with you atm

14:32 schestowitz-TR; it's decent

14:32 schestowitz-TR; n https://yewtu.be/watch?v=kw_nY-tMuHE

↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=kw_nY-tMuHE

14:32 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | TikTok is Destroying a Generation - Invidious

14:33 Techrights-sec; It's a major

14:33 Techrights-sec; surveillance / espionage company but dabbles in propaganda and opinino

14:33 Techrights-sec; modification. AFAIK Palantir and Team Cymru are just espionage. ByteDance

14:33 Techrights-sec; has a strong grip on Gen Z's behaviors, values, mores, and ethics -- or

14:33 Techrights-sec; splitting of those from *all* previous generations

14:33 Techrights-sec; They all work more or less the same, though addictive interfaces and

14:33 Techrights-sec; reinforcement of specific behaviors while squelching other behaviors.

14:33 Techrights-sec; See the fairly recent articles about 'phones' as skinner boxes

14:33 Techrights-sec; checking

14:39 Techrights-sec; https://odysee.com/@UpperEchelonGamers:3/tiktok-is-destroying-a-generation:7

↺ https://odysee.com/@UpperEchelonGamers:3/tiktok-is-destroying-a-generation:7

14:39 Techrights-sec; "a viral form of societal poison and it is well on its way to destroying a

14:39 Techrights-sec; generation"

14:39 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | TikTok is Destroying a Generation

14:58 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Tik-Tok seems like a Bill Gates platform https://yewtu.be/watch?v=qbv-VteX5H8

↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=qbv-VteX5H8

14:58 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | TikTok is Poisoning Society - Invidious

14:58 Techrights-sec; "spending more time on social media than eating or drinking combined on a

14:58 Techrights-sec; day to day basis"

14:58 Techrights-sec; I'd say further that the number of contact hours spent with social control

14:58 Techrights-sec; media far exceeds the contact hours spent with friends+family per day.

14:58 Techrights-sec; Even worse, the algorithms are laser-focused on the one individual and their

14:58 Techrights-sec; behavior and resistent to pushback of any kind. With people, there is some

14:59 Techrights-sec; give and take in the interactions. With social control media, it is a one-way

14:59 Techrights-sec; street.

14:59 Techrights-sec; From day one, Tiktok, has targeted children. Now, as a domain name it is

14:59 Techrights-sec; more common than Google, from a DNS usage perspective.

14:59 Techrights-sec; an "hour or two" is a bad estimate more like three to six hours per day

14:59 Techrights-sec; A people behind the great firewall of China even allowed to view TikTok?

14:59 Techrights-sec; If not, then it could be considered a tool for offense.

14:59 Techrights-sec; https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/tiktok-dethrones-google-as-this-years-most-popular-domain/

↺ https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/tiktok-dethrones-google-as-this-years-most-popular-domain/

14:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-TikTok dethrones Google as this year's most popular domain - CNET


3 PM, October 9

15:00 schestowitz-TR; the point about whether china uses tiktok inwards, outwards, or both is worthy an inquiry

15:00 schestowitz-TR; after those two videos I have a beter grasp of what tiktok is from a user's POV

15:00 schestowitz-TR; it's not "just an app"

15:00 schestowitz-TR; I thought it was just like scrolling, infinite scrolling, short videos on a "phone"

15:07 schestowitz-TR; these gross things sometimes make me wonder if computing in general was a Bad Idea

15:07 schestowitz-TR; but computers are a general concept

15:07 schestowitz-TR; computers > internet > web > social [sic] media

15:07 schestowitz-TR; and then computers can be split into form factors

15:07 schestowitz-TR; the net effect is a sadder society that works harder in spite of supposed automation

15:07 schestowitz-TR; never mind health effect (sedentary lifestyle)

15:08 Techrights-sec; Computing but loss of control. The person in front of the keyboard out to

15:08 Techrights-sec; have remained in charge, as per RMS' vision. However, spineless worms let

15:08 Techrights-sec; "Freedoms" get whittled away year after year.

15:08 Techrights-sec; They don't work harder, but only longer and less productively. :/

15:08 schestowitz-TR; "only longer and less productively." = still working harder

15:11 Techrights-sec; Automation has been abused to control people rather than as a force multiplier.

15:11 Techrights-sec; Contrast what we have now with what was envisioned 30+ years ago:

15:11 Techrights-sec; https://medium.learningbyshipping.com/bicycle-121262546097

↺ https://medium.learningbyshipping.com/bicycle-121262546097

15:11 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-medium.learningbyshipping.com | Bicycle for the Mind. When we invented the personal | by Steven Sinofsky | Learning By Shipping

15:46 schestowitz-TR; going for a troll around the stadium..

15:46 schestowitz-TR; back

15:46 schestowitz-TR; found some good things out there

15:47 schestowitz-TR; *stroll

15:51 schestowitz-TR; I think I have a better grasp now of what people do on the Net

15:51 schestowitz-TR; aside from DRMovies etc.

15:51 schestowitz-TR; it's not www and not even reading, it's just software withh transport layer

15:54 schestowitz-TR; ---

15:54 schestowitz-TR; the fonts in the 1980s were awful

15:54 schestowitz-TR; maybe this was photoshop on expensive macs

15:54 schestowitz-TR; I remember this PC design with the floppy slots, usually two of them for copying

15:58 schestowitz-TR; ---

15:58 schestowitz-TR; there is room for satire about what "computing" (or "net") became

15:58 schestowitz-TR; but reality is having more shock value than satire

15:58 schestowitz-TR; I saw in full those two videos

15:58 schestowitz-TR; and they did help me see some portions of the "site" tiktok

15:58 schestowitz-TR; it reselbles some things from 20 years ago

15:58 schestowitz-TR; but with higher b/w

15:59 schestowitz-TR; I hope this is now where escapees are moving

15:59 schestowitz-TR; if they recognise that social control media is fruitless

15:59 schestowitz-TR; and meaningless

15:59 schestowitz-TR; but I'm still digesting it

15:59 schestowitz-TR; I hardly see or speak to any young kids, like nephews and nieces

15:59 schestowitz-TR; they seem antisocial to me

15:59 schestowitz-TR; rianne did use some crap things before, but she stopped


4 PM, October 9

16:07 schestowitz-TR; New [computation] system predicts how to prevent wildfires https://www.aalto.fi/en/news/new-ai-system-predicts-how-to-prevent-wildfires

↺ https://www.aalto.fi/en/news/new-ai-system-predicts-how-to-prevent-wildfires

16:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.aalto.fi | New AI system predicts how to prevent wildfires | Aalto University

16:10 Techrights-sec; Yes, DT had a similar comment about his nieces and nephews being *very*

16:10 Techrights-sec; anti-social and app-addicted.

16:12 schestowitz-TR; oh, shit, I should really watch his video now that it's Sunday

16:12 schestowitz-TR; I never got around to it

16:12 schestowitz-TR; he did speak a few years ago about fatigue and going offline

16:12 schestowitz-TR; his publication style is difficult as he goes for for ydays without saying anything and then goes "live" with something "new"

16:12 schestowitz-TR; one thing I hated about academic is how long it takes to publish even a short paper

16:16 Techrights-sec; This one : https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/students-refuse-to-give-up-phones-in:0

↺ https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/students-refuse-to-give-up-phones-in:0

16:16 Techrights-sec; But more on ByteDance: https://odysee.com/@switchedtolinux:0/tiktok-tracking-non-users-2:8

↺ https://odysee.com/@switchedtolinux:0/tiktok-tracking-non-users-2:8

16:16 Techrights-sec; though that guy can be a bit too ranty most of the time

16:16 Techrights-sec; The one mistake DT makes in that video is that he asserts that the students

16:16 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | Students Refuse To Give Up Phones In School

16:16 Techrights-sec; own their phones. Legally, they probably don't. First, they are probably

16:16 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | TikTok Tracking Non-Users

16:16 Techrights-sec; registered in their parents' names. Second, you don't own any of that stuff

16:16 Techrights-sec; any more, but instead only granted a temporary license to use the service (app)

16:16 Techrights-sec; while it suits them. Furthermore, many licenses are 20+ 12pt A4 pages long

16:16 Techrights-sec; and grant them *ownership* of what's uploaded. Sadly almost none realise

16:16 Techrights-sec; that they are uploading let alone realize the legal situation.

16:17 schestowitz-TR; uploaders=informants (usually unwittingly)

16:17 schestowitz-TR; never socialise with informants

16:17 Techrights-sec; In the past, I have tried talking sense into people about the social control

16:17 Techrights-sec; media licenses they 'agreed' to, but even when showing them printed paper

16:17 Techrights-sec; with highlighting, they usually remain in full denial about it

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16:22 schestowitz-TR; endorphines

16:22 schestowitz-TR; more powerful than llogical reasoning

16:22 schestowitz-TR; 'watching' the videos

16:22 schestowitz-TR; I like videos that don't show "too" much

16:22 schestowitz-TR; as I can play them in the background

16:22 schestowitz-TR; without losing anything alluded to in the words

16:22 schestowitz-TR; odysee still fails to work with falkon

16:23 schestowitz-TR; bloody crap

16:23 schestowitz-TR; they don't even fix it

16:24 Techrights-sec; Odysee is poisoned with excessive javascript, entirely unnecessary javasript

16:24 Techrights-sec; in principle

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6 PM, October 9

18:55 schestowitz-TR; spent the past 1 hour checking how mastodon handles account migration

18:55 schestowitz-TR; all the past posts get lost

18:56 schestowitz-TR; but you can get to have an archive of them

18:56 schestowitz-TR; that cannot be migrated or imported

18:56 schestowitz-TR; and many of the "followers" do not get redirected properlt

18:56 schestowitz-TR; nto sure I want to 'bash' them over it

18:56 schestowitz-TR; it's still better than how diaspora handles it

18:56 schestowitz-TR; anyway, this is just for tuxmachines

18:56 schestowitz-TR; moving from someone else's computer to another someone else's computer

18:56 schestowitz-TR; is as lousy as that sounds

18:56 Techrights-sec; :(

18:56 Techrights-sec; that's not much of an advantage. It's better than absolutely nothing but

18:56 Techrights-sec; still not much. The lack of followers is anothr bite.

18:57 Techrights-sec; ack

18:58 schestowitz-TR; MAYBE I will do an article/video aboiutit

18:58 schestowitz-TR; having involuntarily 'researched' this matter

18:58 schestowitz-TR; but don't want to 'bash' them too much

18:58 schestowitz-TR; the task in federated network is not simple

18:58 Techrights-sec; Or three: before, during, after archiving/migration


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22:39 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> This analysis found there is an 84% increase in the relative incidence of cardiac-related death among males 18-39 years old within 28 days following mRNA vaccination. https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/09/florida-coronavirus-vaccine-safety/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/09/florida-coronavirus-vaccine-safety/

22:39 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Authorities in Florida Caution About Correlation Between Some COVID-19 Vaccines and Heart Attacks in Young Males

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11 PM, October 9

23:08 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR: America's Russia?

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23:52 schestowitz-TR; Floria?


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