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07:17 schestowitz-TR; the pi backups are working ok at 5:30

07:17 schestowitz-TR; I think ipfs works OK too, for output to site and to your IRC posts

07:17 schestowitz-TR; I'm going to try to clone the whole system to USB now

07:17 Techrights-sec; I looked at kde-plasma-desktop and its dependencies in Gephi but the

07:17 Techrights-sec; data modification needs a little more work to make it look nice. Even

07:17 Techrights-sec; without making it look nice, once can see that it is very complex and

07:17 Techrights-sec; some of the dependencies occur many times over

07:20 schestowitz-TR; cloning

07:20 schestowitz-TR; are you good at assessing brands for removable storage?

07:20 schestowitz-TR; (I'm not)

07:20 schestowitz-TR; for instamnce, is KIOXIA considered OK?

07:20 schestowitz-TR; the one I bought is very generic and I only intend to use it as a safety net for future D-R

07:21 schestowitz-TR; this one says 2 years wrranty on the cardbord part of the pack

07:21 schestowitz-TR; not sure how to even interpret that, it cost 9 pounds

07:21 schestowitz-TR; for 32 gb

07:22 Techrights-sec; no the storage quality is constantly changing; brands which were good recently

07:22 Techrights-sec; cut quality for increased profit and coast on the name recognition a cycle

07:22 Techrights-sec; or two until their bad reputation cuts into profits and then they play

07:22 Techrights-sec; catchup; GOTO 10;

07:23 Techrights-sec; Most say 5 year warranty, at least the ones I've bought

07:23 Techrights-sec; It's probably a warranty for being able to plug it in, not data loss

07:23 schestowitz-TR; ACK, thanks!

07:23 schestowitz-TR; I want to share some background info on something, which approaches resolution now

07:24 schestowitz; Issuing rude and threatening messages isn't helpful while I do disaster recovery (D-R) and many other things at the same time.

07:24 schestowitz; It only worsen things. Best to switch off as timing isn't urgent, then prioritise accordingly. This is not urgent. We can all calm down. I didn't say anything rude. I just focused on what mattered most.

07:24 schestowitz; I will be super-busy this month and next month there's a sort deadline for the above-mentioned naturalisation. I'm not interested in bickering; it's not compatible with my mood. Calm down, be patient, and we will figure things out.

07:24 schestowitz; By the way, phoning and messaging xxxx like this is what xxxx did to xxxxx, causing her to get all uncomfortable as an adolescent no less. Don't stoop down to this level please.

07:24 schestowitz; We need to use a more secure communication channels. This one, Hotmail, is monitoring by Microsoft (they got caught snooping for purely business reasons in violation of basic rights) and most other "apps" are also not confidential. That's why they're only even used by me for banal talk like football, not much personal stuff.

07:24 schestowitz; To be clear, leaving my job would be about focusing on my own projects, not sitting idly doing nothing or drinking any alcohol (no time for that). There seems to be an unfortunate misunderstanding about that.

07:24 schestowitz; Anyway, we'll talk soon. Relax, it'll be fine.

07:24 schestowitz-TR; we seem to have ruffled some feathers with our plan, which person c told b and maybe a about

07:33 schestowitz-TR; one thing I found was, people are unable to grasp people's choices that are not like them, so they start attacking and stuff

07:33 schestowitz-TR; this reminds me of a person (unnamed) who said RMS was attacked tro viciously because people were unable to come to grips with how he lived his life in freedom without

07:33 schestowitz-TR; having to get all stressed about mortgages and without using GAFAM etc... or getting bossed by pricks

07:33 schestowitz-TR; BTW, in IRC some days ago I posted a link to a video of him in Frnace this summer. He hair is all grey/white, but his skin seems OK and his French seems

07:34 schestowitz-TR; good though I cannot understand what he says. In recent years I saw books saying "French" at his back, so he keeps on top

07:34 schestowitz-TR; I did not do anything with this video as Francophonies are a very narrow audience for us

07:34 schestowitz-TR; (not compring MYSELF to RMS, just saying this situation reminded me of that comment)

07:34 schestowitz-TR; having said all this,s eeing how seldom FSF publishes somrthing of sunstance (not just announcing date and time for Libera.Cancel "event") and how little

07:34 schestowitz-TR; RMS talks (and how soft his stance is), I realise that both were defranged, and I think the 'sock doctrine' left tem paralysed, afriad that soemthinfg they

07:34 schestowitz-TR; say or do might lead to a THIRD attack (Sept 2019, March-April 2021...)

07:34 schestowitz-TR; they should have responded more firmly the first time around

07:34 schestowitz-TR; if RMS had not "stepped down" in 2019, there would be no second or third

07:34 schestowitz-TR; he'd still be preseident, not giving a flying f*

07:34 schestowitz-TR; btw, he did want to become president again (reliable source), but after the second attack decided to leave things at that

07:37 schestowitz-TR; i mention in the video one day we might add documentdrop (we tried on centos; also tried a germany equiv)

07:37 schestowitz-TR; not a priority for now

07:38 Techrights-sec; checking

07:38 Techrights-sec; if it is relevant, it would be important to mention that the quantity-over-

07:38 Techrights-sec; -quality is harmful and defeats the purpose of a patent office which,

07:38 Techrights-sec; as from IRC, is about weeding out bad patents at the application level

07:38 Techrights-sec; passing that on to the courts merely to skim money burdens the courts

07:38 Techrights-sec; unnecessarily and obviates the need for a patent office even.

07:42 schestowitz-TR; added para with your witty observation

08:10 schestowitz-TR; today's IRC post left out the IPFS stuff. Did the script not manage to retrieve it?

08:10 schestowitz-TR; Just checking to ensure it worked correctly

08:47 schestowitz-TR; with ipfs working OK again I'll likely enhance TR on top of it ;-)

08:47 schestowitz-TR; WTF! Switzerland and Finland now doing rolling blackouts? Now due to weather? Insane. World's (among) richest and "happiest"... brownouts due to weather and power

08:47 schestowitz-TR; rationing. This is considered normal now? What next, water rationing? Overpopulation does play a role in this. Of course the rich companies, e.g. AWS/Amazon,

08:47 schestowitz-TR; will be exempted, so there will be more monopolies too (marketing point: "we're exempt from rationing")

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10:50 schestowitz; Might be worth inserting something like <link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="Tux Machines RSS" href="http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/feed" /> to all TM pages

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12:09 Techrights-sec; checking IPFS part of the IRC script

12:09 Techrights-sec; Checking remote server for IPFS logs.

12:09 Techrights-sec; cat: /home/links/ipfs/220808.html: No such file or director

12:09 Techrights-sec; the new sysem does not have the requisite files, though the ones from the other

12:09 Techrights-sec; days have been there. Were they uploaded?

12:09 Techrights-sec; $ ls /home/links/ipfs/

12:09 Techrights-sec; 220806.html 220807.html output.txt

12:09 Techrights-sec; Yes, an alternate link would be a good idea.

12:10 schestowitz[TR2]; cp: cannot create regular file '/home/links/ipfs/220808.html': Permission denied

12:10 schestowitz[TR2]; something was changed since yesterday

12:56 schestowitz-TR; I think you changed groups or permissions, not sure what you changed

12:56 schestowitz-TR; in other news, rianne and I were using the DB locks today

12:56 schestowitz-TR; she was baffled at first

12:56 schestowitz-TR; until I explained to her what had happened

12:56 schestowitz-TR; all in all it worked well

12:56 schestowitz-TR; put me on hold till she finished/finalised

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13:12 schestowitz-TR; a) multitasking too much atm

13:12 schestowitz-TR; b) told marius to try posting

13:12 schestowitz-TR; c)nearly done cloning none

13:12 schestowitz-TR; d) will posign Daily Links soon

13:12 schestowitz-TR; e) tryint to focus purely on the sites atm

13:12 schestowitz-TR; f) permissions issue is the ipfs user tying to access that dir in links

13:12 schestowitz-TR; g) windows share falling shortpy, will writ eabout this later

13:12 schestowitz-TR; h) will start ipfs running from home again after cloning, at a minimal capacity

13:12 schestowitz-TR; i) want to do some ipfs enhancements now that it works like it did back when it was very small

13:13 Techrights-sec; which account? the permissions were 0777, which was very bad, the groups

13:13 Techrights-sec; can be used to write if the speciall account is not used

13:14 schestowitz-TR; 0777 was a temporarily hack

13:14 schestowitz-TR; hence I told you about it

13:15 schestowitz-TR; as I want to do permissions properly on the new machine

13:15 schestowitz-TR; but just needed something temporary to write the files

13:15 schestowitz-TR; i removed make and gcc from that machine after using them

13:15 schestowitz-TR; i might remove more packages if we add them

13:15 schestowitz-TR; I think I yold you about every single package I had added

13:15 Techrights-sec; having the 0777 permisions /blocked/ SSH /

13:15 Techrights-sec; Rsync / SFTP from the account

13:16 schestowitz-TR; I think we need to add a group

13:16 schestowitz-TR; adding the accounts that need access to links

13:16 Techrights-sec; which account should be added to the group?

13:16 Techrights-sec; there is a dedicated account, but 'roy' can be added

13:17 schestowitz-TR; brb, will come back after daily links

13:17 schestowitz-TR; to avoid making mistakes

13:18 schestowitz-TR; yesterrdqay we found another very nearby store that had some good discounts and there are two more plances near us that can ship the parcel outwards

13:18 schestowitz-TR; but that's OT for now

13:18 schestowitz-TR; we'll be out for a long time tomorrow as it is 31 degrees here

13:19 Techrights-sec; excellent that there are so many choices

13:22 schestowitz-TR; yesterday I fixed some cross-account per issues on the pi

13:22 schestowitz-TR; that's one of the reasons want a complete clone

13:22 schestowitz-TR; to replicate and maintain the same relation between accounts and their permissions

13:22 schestowitz-TR; set aside system binaries and such

13:22 schestowitz-TR; /home is not enough

13:22 schestowitz-TR; there's lots more inc. crontab

13:22 schestowitz-TR; on the new system we'll have some more accounts to contain certain programs like irc bots

13:22 schestowitz-TR; so that nothing runs as root

13:22 schestowitz-TR; some of thewse programs need to write to public_html

13:22 schestowitz-TR; so getting the relationship right will be crucial

13:22 schestowitz-TR; to avoid clutter later

13:22 schestowitz-TR; and I'm usualyl too lazxy (sorry) and implement quikck dirty hacks

13:22 schestowitz-TR; I'm the same in the kiutchen

13:25 Techrights-sec; the 0777 permissions are incompatible with SSH / Rsync / SFTP access. That's

13:25 Techrights-sec; how they were noticed

13:25 Techrights-sec; anyway if the 'links' acccount is not used, then

13:25 Techrights-sec; a new group can be used for that directory.

13:25 Techrights-sec; setting the ACLs for group write

13:26 schestowitz-TR; finalising daily links now so I can do articles :-)

13:26 schestowitz-TR; fell asleep on the chair twice already

13:26 Techrights-sec; enough excercise?

13:26 schestowitz-TR; but not enough, not as much as I'd like

13:34 Techrights-sec; maybe at some point the accoun for IPFS can be changes to something more

13:34 Techrights-sec; mnemonic

13:35 schestowitz-TR; yes, but I took into account some necessary rewrites hang on, finalising daily links..

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13:46 schestowitz-TR; what other objects can be added to ipfs or

13:46 schestowitz-TR; how can ipfs be leveraged to our advantage

13:46 schestowitz-TR; for gemini I doubt we need it

13:46 schestowitz-TR; I still host it from home OK

13:46 schestowitz-TR; we could intheory host it from two places at once

13:46 schestowitz-TR; but no perceivable advantage atm

13:46 schestowitz-TR; the ipfs account is not only for ipfs, just mostly for that

13:46 schestowitz-TR; it is also where the belletins and large irc files reside

13:47 schestowitz-TR; with consistent account name on home machine and DC machine

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14:46 schestowitz-TR; pi backu complete

14:46 schestowitz-TR; stored away

14:46 schestowitz-TR; hould work ok afaik

14:46 schestowitz-TR; working on ipfs irc bots atm

14:46 schestowitz-TR; might create another user account on TR-new

14:51 schestowitz-TR; commented out about 10 lines in home ipfs setup

14:51 schestowitz-TR; that'll get it running without generating anything new

14:52 schestowitz-TR; it'll also yield stats

14:52 schestowitz-TR; I don't think the server side needs to interact with irc, but it does need to send up-to-date list of hashes to the pi for gemini

14:52 schestowitz-TR; for now, TR-new has nothing WWW-public-facing

14:52 schestowitz-TR; I want to create another account, gemini, for ssh access from the gemini account

14:52 Techrights-sec; checking

14:52 Techrights-sec; what would it read or write

14:53 schestowitz-TR; ipfs would write to it things, for now a list of hashes

14:53 schestowitz-TR; the pi would read that over ssh

14:53 schestowitz-TR; in the future there might be more bits to read/write

14:53 schestowitz-TR; but account will be just for access from the pi/gemini

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14:55 Techrights-sec; would sftp-only work then?

14:56 Techrights-sec; that would allow transfer of files and such wihout

14:56 Techrights-sec; needing to permit access to any other part of the file system

14:57 Techrights-sec; because on the RPi, gemini runs some network facing daemon(s)

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14:58 schestowitz-TR; I have another idea

14:59 schestowitz-TR; write to it but still no access to it

14:59 schestowitz-TR; until we have www server running

14:59 schestowitz-TR; in which case we can curl or wget the content

14:59 schestowitz-TR; and allow access to the same over http/s

14:59 schestowitz-TR; I'll create an account, gemini

14:59 schestowitz-TR; and then I will also test access to links

15:11 schestowitz-TR; account created

15:11 schestowitz-TR; placeholder with permissions for ipfs

15:11 schestowitz-TR; testing now, ttwo tests in one, links and gemini

15:11 schestowitz-TR; due to testing, for the time being I run this job manually, so your files won't be ready until I run the job

15:11 schestowitz-TR; all the changes I made to scripts are intentionally minimal, so nothing to push upstream

15:11 schestowitz-TR; as I don't want to split the 'codebase'

15:11 Techrights-sec; yep works with my script

15:11 schestowitz-TR; diff'ing is easy, usually just commented out line of reused stuff

15:11 schestowitz-TR; try now to get the file from /home/links/ipfs

15:11 schestowitz-TR; to see if the permissions are suitable for your consumption from your end

15:14 schestowitz-TR; OK, one last run, it seems to work now

15:14 schestowitz-TR; I'll wait for the TR-new machine to have www open port and webserver software, then I can retrieve the file for the pi

15:14 schestowitz-TR; or... I can just grab it over ssh/ftp instead of waiting

15:14 schestowitz-TR; it's just that the web approach gives me options

15:14 schestowitz-TR; /s/me/more/

15:15 Techrights-sec; sftp tr-new:/home/links/ipfs/$(date +"%y%m%d.html")

15:20 Techrights-sec; sftp -i ~/.ssh/tr-new ipfs.techrights.org:/home/links/ipfs/$(date -d '-1 day' +'%y%m%d.html')

15:30 schestowitz-TR; date not needed as it's a fixed named file

15:30 schestowitz-TR; I've just rsynced the file manually

15:30 schestowitz-TR; to be honst, this is just the gemini mirror for ipfs

15:30 schestowitz-TR; and not many people use that

15:30 schestowitz-TR; so nightly updates are likely not required

15:30 schestowitz-TR; I've just put a script in ~gemini/bin

15:30 schestowitz-TR; a one liner to refresh the hashesd

15:30 schestowitz-TR; *hashes

15:30 schestowitz-TR; they're not up to date

15:30 schestowitz-TR; I'm going to cron the ipfs update for 3am

15:30 Techrights-sec; I spent some time looking at kde-plasma-desktop dependencies using Gephi earlier

15:30 Techrights-sec; excellent

15:30 schestowitz-TR; so ipfs for TR runs from two nodes now

15:30 schestowitz-TR; and one is more verbose

15:30 schestowitz-TR; one does the heavy lifting

15:30 schestowitz-TR; best of both worlds

15:30 schestowitz-TR; also, one is home-hosted

15:30 schestowitz-TR; underpowered in the blockchains networked sense

15:30 schestowitz-TR; has tiny pipes connecting it to the mrkle tree

15:30 schestowitz-TR; *merkle

15:30 schestowitz-TR; better than none at all though

15:30 schestowitz-TR; DHT traffic can be criculated by it

15:30 schestowitz-TR; mapping the route to the datacentre

15:33 schestowitz-TR; I'm no systemd-free expert, BUT..

15:33 schestowitz-TR; I know more than most

15:33 schestowitz-TR; Gentoo does not depend on systemd and it has a KDE Plasma5 desktop

15:33 schestowitz-TR; so you know it is doable

15:33 schestowitz-TR; but I don't know the process

15:33 schestowitz-TR; Debian 10 with Plasma5, what rianne and I use (Debian 11 is only on our pis), is loaded with many systemd programs

15:33 schestowitz-TR; it wopuld be nice is more debian devs started defecting to devuan

15:33 schestowitz-TR; and in the process bury some of the bad reputation of late

15:33 schestowitz-TR; iirc, they're binary-compatible???

15:33 schestowitz-TR; like, you can poind the repos elsewhere and it would retrieve the right things?

15:33 schestowitz-TR; though it seems hard to believe if it looks for particular services

15:33 schestowitz-TR; non-standard

15:33 schestowitz-TR; afaik, the programs just make system calls

15:33 schestowitz-TR; they don't make assumptions like systemd being there

15:35 Techrights-sec; doable, for now, it depends on the trajectory the KDE developers are choosing

15:35 Techrights-sec; Devuan mainly mirrors the Debian repositories, except for the specific

15:35 Techrights-sec; packages which have been infected with systemd and have had to be replaced

15:35 Techrights-sec; with modified versions

15:36 Techrights-sec; libc6 is by far the most central dependency

15:36 Techrights-sec; that's not much of a surprise though

15:41 schestowitz-TR; many progs depend on something that depends on c

15:41 schestowitz-TR; btw, jaromil is miles more porincipled than DPLs of recent years

15:41 schestowitz-TR; the GRs process of Debian is based on the assumption modern "democracies" are based on

15:41 schestowitz-TR; a) the voter is well oifnrormed

15:41 schestowitz-TR; b) the voter is not funded by or WORKS for some company like Gulag

15:41 schestowitz-TR; if you say Devuan makes life easier with reuse, then maybe there can be a fusion down the line

15:41 schestowitz-TR; that accomplishes a multi-mophemism for Debian

15:41 schestowitz-TR; like they had not just for archs but also Debian GNU/BSD

15:41 schestowitz-TR; except a systemd-free version

15:41 schestowitz-TR; for multiple archs

15:41 schestowitz-TR; jaromil wants to think devuan will be adopted by debian at least as an option

15:41 schestowitz-TR; then the user can actuallyh decice and I sense many would opt for the non-systemd download

15:41 schestowitz-TR; red hat and microsoft both flounder anyway

15:41 schestowitz-TR; 2030: github removes systemd for lack of activity ;-0 (poking fun by gitLAB)

15:41 Techrights-sec; a) has been made impossible through decades of slashed educational budgets,

15:41 Techrights-sec; media consolidation, and social control media

15:43 schestowitz-TR; if it's of any solace, as I noted a few times in irc today, social control media has a trend

15:43 schestowitz-TR; shapr downward trned

15:43 schestowitz-TR; the whole lot

15:43 schestowitz-TR; even mastodom and diaspora

15:43 schestowitz-TR; people lost interest

15:43 schestowitz-TR; and it'\s reverse network effect

15:43 schestowitz-TR; my friends left

15:43 schestowitz-TR; I get not much engagement anymore

15:43 schestowitz-TR; maybe I too should focus on IRL

15:43 schestowitz-TR; IRL friends, not 'friends'

15:44 Techrights-sec; good, social control media is far too destructive for society and, specifically,

15:44 Techrights-sec; for democracy. There is no safe level of exposure, and those goes double for

15:44 Techrights-sec; individual health and well-being.

15:44 Techrights-sec; s/those/that/

15:47 schestowitz-TR; you also know DDG feels the pinch now

15:47 schestowitz-TR; Startpage you hardly hear of anymore

15:47 schestowitz-TR; yesterday while shaving I found a 30-min video about an article I wrote about them

15:47 schestowitz-TR; the guy who made it also assumed DDG was "privacy"

15:47 schestowitz-TR; lots of paid-for endorsements (lies)

15:47 schestowitz-TR; and he was a Linux guy

15:47 schestowitz-TR; Tor, Mint, Qute Browser... Microsoft pays them via DDG... to lie to us and spread our legs/buttcheecks

15:47 schestowitz-TR; with "bands"... hashtags... reminds me of how slack misappropirated "slackware"

15:47 schestowitz-TR; DDG: we're all GEEKS.... or... a front group for the anti-geeks company

15:47 Techrights-sec; there was name confusion there and I am 100% sure that it was the main reason

15:47 Techrights-sec; it rode to popularity. Managers, knowing nothing, would ask their staff

15:47 Techrights-sec; what do they think of "Slack" and of course they would respond positively

15:47 Techrights-sec; without realizing they were talking of two different things

15:53 Techrights-sec; DDG is trying to spin its way out of its current situation

15:57 schestowitz; now down to nearly 8.xx% http://techrights.org/2022/08/02/turkey-windows/

15:57 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | When Windows is Down to 9% market Share | Techrights

16:01 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.it/Dewix888/status/1556951125349253122#m

16:01 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-DM (@Dewix888): "That perception of lack of professionalism was promoted by Microsoft as a means delegitimizing Linux & OSS as a whole. http://techrights.org/2019/11/09/christian-ude-on-microsoft/"|nitter.it

16:01 schestowitz-TR; does the xml feed of TM gemini need a lot more work?

16:01 schestowitz-TR; I saw that in git

16:02 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.it/yuhong2/status/1556837830109777920#m

16:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Yuhong Bao (@yuhong2): "Did you just crawl it or did you have to ask Techrights for permission?"|nitter.it

16:03 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft troll/shill

16:14 Techrights-sec; Google ads?

16:14 schestowitz-TR; shane put some google ads in 2006

16:14 schestowitz-TR; and this Microsoft troll keeps bringing this up even in 2022

16:14 schestowitz-TR; ignore, I'm pretty sure he's connected to Microsoft

16:14 schestowitz-TR; he also trolled out IRC channels several times

16:14 schestowitz-TR; but esp. comments

16:15 Techrights-sec; both nitter feeds were from a-holes

16:17 schestowitz-TR; I did not even check the context, it's like doomscrolling

16:17 schestowitz-TR; a waste of time with shilling, falsehoods etc.

16:17 schestowitz-TR; the bill gates critics are banned already

16:23 schestowitz-TR; we wrote about him before, sod that, not worth the time ;-)

16:23 schestowitz-TR; anyway, I realise we're not building the two sites in parallel, having added ipfs and went on from there

16:23 schestowitz-TR; rianne does not want to download a gemini client to check tuxmachines

16:23 schestowitz-TR; she thinks it's for geeks, fair enough I guess

16:30 schestowitz-TR; just scanned gemini logs for TM, seems there are quite a few IPs and there are over 1k requests

16:30 schestowitz-TR; the reason I ask about a feed is, this can be submitted to capcom

16:30 schestowitz-TR; then the capsule gains some more visibility

16:30 schestowitz-TR; the feeds aid efficient crawling

16:31 Techrights-sec; It is possible to make an Atom feed for Gemini but the scripts options

16:31 Techrights-sec; need to be reworked to make sense. There are four choices http+atom, http+dl

16:31 Techrights-sec; gemini+atom, gemini+gemtext

16:31 Techrights-sec; checking

16:34 schestowitz-TR; tmix a -t logs on root@tm-new

16:34 schestowitz-TR; oh, I have just noticed nodes created by rianne do not show up in gemini, only mine

16:34 schestowitz-TR; surely some permission issue

16:34 schestowitz-TR; marius too needs that have that perm

16:34 schestowitz-TR; as he will likely start posting in the new site soon

16:34 schestowitz-TR; I was thinking last night how to prevent posting of new nodes in the old site

16:34 schestowitz-TR; one option is drupal permissions

16:34 schestowitz-TR; nobody but admin can add new nodes

16:34 schestowitz-TR; or modify any

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16:39 Techrights-sec; checking permissions for Gemini on tm-new

16:39 Techrights-sec; is she using the shell script wrappers and not the raw perl scripts?

16:40 schestowitz-TR; I think I got further insight now

16:40 schestowitz-TR; it's not that she cannot create these files

16:40 schestowitz-TR; they show up in the index

16:40 schestowitz-TR; but not accessible, I think, until it's me running a refresh

16:40 schestowitz-TR; afaik, she runs things the same way as me

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16:46 schestowitz; gemini://geminispace.info/newest-hosts

16:47 schestowitz; "2022-08-07: gemini.tuxmachines.org"

16:47 Techrights-sec; ok the default permissions, in the ACL, for the group were off, EXT ACLs are

16:47 Techrights-sec; too complicated for what they do. It's sad that it has not improved over

16:47 Techrights-sec; the decades.

16:47 Techrights-sec; Anyway, she has write access now.

16:47 Techrights-sec; I hope, now I have to figure out the right notes to add.

16:47 schestowitz-TR; I was just about to give more debug info/steps to reproduce, but you've fixed it

16:47 schestowitz-TR; good stuff

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16:55 schestowitz-TR; so now you revceive push notifications for gemini updates you can check with ncurses/amfora

16:55 schestowitz-TR; I've note caught up fully with my feeds yet

16:55 schestowitz-TR; trying to make time for "projects"

16:55 schestowitz-TR; and today was super-productive so far

16:55 schestowitz-TR; soon the crawlkers, like lupa, will reach TM

17:00 Techrights-sec; gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/feed.xml

17:03 schestowitz-TR; excellent! I'm trying to think how to improve the front page, should I add some static pages or not yet?

17:03 schestowitz-TR; maybe a link to the XML, too?

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17:06 schestowitz-TR; looking at the diff...

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17:06 Techrights-sec; that is the XML feed

17:07 schestowitz-TR; No Microsoft/Windows/Apple/Mac sites in Geminispace

17:07 schestowitz-TR; W-E focuses on Wikipedia, WWW, and bribed officials

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17:11 Techrights-sec; for now. the world need to take as much advantage of that lead as it can

17:20 schestowitz-TR; conman (conner) writes about osUx sometimes

17:20 schestowitz-TR; but he seldom write anything, usually just one para

17:20 schestowitz-TR; a lot of gemini "content" us UNIX and GNU/Linux... IPFS... Gemini itself

17:20 schestowitz-TR; DeVault complained, but Techrights actually produces a lot in Gemini that's not about Gemini

17:20 schestowitz-TR; I've checked latency for the gemini:// requests and https proxy

17:20 schestowitz-TR; it's not too bad, even with throttling (iptables) and ipfs turned on

17:20 schestowitz-TR; the capsule updates OK

17:20 schestowitz-TR; with ipfs in the background

17:20 schestowitz-TR; because you coded re-attempted for timeouts

17:20 schestowitz-TR; I don't supposer many people run ipfs both froma vps and from home

17:20 schestowitz-TR; just did a lot of stress-testing on the capsule

17:20 schestowitz-TR; btw, "logs" session in TM-new is now split view for www and gemini

17:20 schestowitz-TR; going to go upstairs now to explain the process better

17:20 schestowitz-TR; in theory the gemproxy of techrights.org could be modified to permit gemini.tm as well

17:21 schestowitz-TR; but I realise it was custom-made for particular kinds of pages

17:35 Techrights-sec; there is now a link to the Atom feed at the bottom of the Gemini index

17:35 Techrights-sec; yes the proxy is custom made for the quirks present in TR and would not work

17:35 Techrights-sec; well if at all with TM

17:35 schestowitz-TR; rianne is already passing the mock exams very easily

17:35 Techrights-sec; excellent

17:58 schestowitz-TR; just showing her all the features of the capsule now

17:58 schestowitz-TR; lagrange parses the xml correctly

17:58 schestowitz-TR; the urls in the feed are page not found ^_^

17:58 schestowitz-TR; but I know it's not yet tested much

17:58 schestowitz-TR; is my push going to be automatically pulled from TM? maybe you got notification of the change just now

17:58 Techrights-sec; checking

17:58 Techrights-sec; ok they work now ;)

17:58 Techrights-sec; 6f740330b98e54b0facb4a6b6e45189a899539a6 ?

17:58 Techrights-sec; bb1394dcaa6c40aa4a54707b38432d22b3f3d943 ?

17:58 Techrights-sec; yes the notifications all come in while connected

18:00 schestowitz-TR; 033 at the end

18:00 schestowitz-TR; I've just tested the file updates ok, 50 past every hour

18:00 schestowitz-TR; assuming the index itself updates

18:02 Techrights-sec; see /home/git/hooks/update instead

18:02 Techrights-sec; for Git

18:02 Techrights-sec; and /usr/local/bin/refresh... for the gemtext

18:07 schestowitz-TR; if I su - git

18:07 schestowitz-TR; it drops me into interactive git mode

18:07 schestowitz-TR; should I run update as root? tuxmachines? roy?

18:07 Techrights-sec; the /home/git/hooks/update runs as Git when the repostitory gets changed

18:11 Techrights-sec; su -c '/home/git/hooks/update' -s /bin/sh git

18:11 Techrights-sec; would be one way to test it

18:11 Techrights-sec; /usr/local/bin/refresh-site-from-db.sh gets run manually and

18:11 Techrights-sec; should call all the related scripts etc

18:11 Techrights-sec; for the XHTML and Gemtext documents

18:11 schestowitz-TR; ok, so in that case, having just run it, I am guessing my push has not been incorporated into the bin dir

18:15 Techrights-sec; oh. that transfer has to happen manually

18:15 Techrights-sec; su -c 'cd /var/www/tuxmachines.org/; git pull origin master' -s /bin/sh git

18:15 Techrights-sec; cp /var/www/tuxmachines.org/bin/tm-generate-feed.pl /usr/local/bin/

18:15 Techrights-sec; for example

18:23 schestowitz-TR; I've pulled and then copied the file

18:23 schestowitz-TR; it's not reachable, maybe copies with wrong permissions?

18:23 schestowitz-TR; ok, fixed

18:23 schestowitz-TR; with a second push

18:23 schestowitz-TR; I think this one executable is not in the path

18:23 schestowitz-TR; but nested under other executables

18:23 schestowitz-TR; as autocomplete did not show it

18:30 schestowitz-TR; lewis did an article about how azure made ddos far too east

18:30 schestowitz-TR; never mind breaches

18:30 schestowitz-TR; you can have like 100 million attempts at passwords each year

18:30 schestowitz-TR; never mind the back doors

18:30 schestowitz-TR; yesterday psydroid wrote about how, according to dutch media, 120 dental clinics shut down due to "ransomware"

18:30 schestowitz-TR; obv. windos

18:44 Techrights-sec; Windows TCO

18:44 Techrights-sec; the media gloss over it, every time

18:44 schestowitz-TR; satam says, man who pays for windows, loses all teeth

18:44 schestowitz-TR; country that buys windows, becomes toothless

18:44 schestowitz-TR; **satya nutella... as bnchs calls him

18:44 schestowitz-TR; pointing this out is like kicking a puppy, chonchu know?

18:44 schestowitz-TR; *donchu

18:45 Techrights-sec; I don't get how M$ can have the gall to compare themselve to something either

18:45 Techrights-sec; as small or as harmless as a puppy, as it has demonstrated every day for decades

18:45 Techrights-sec; that it is neither

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18:47 schestowitz-TR; at that time James was already married to Sheela Microsoft

18:47 schestowitz-TR; this puppy brings a big paycheck home

18:47 schestowitz-TR; as "CHIEF REVENUE OFFICER"

18:47 schestowitz-TR; whatever that iws

18:47 schestowitz-TR; not CFO

18:47 Techrights-sec; spotted yet another bug in the Gemini feed.xml :/

18:47 schestowitz-TR; "REVENUE OFFICER"

18:47 schestowitz-TR; I pronnounce you, man and Microsoft

19:02 Techrights-sec; it seems that 'type="text/html"' might be hardcoded in that module

19:03 schestowitz-TR; maybe you can pass it through sed?

19:07 Techrights-sec; no, there is more capability within the perl script, its just a question

19:07 Techrights-sec; of how much time ought to be invested in a work-around how/if it could be

19:07 Techrights-sec; fixed upstream

19:18 Techrights-sec; The press consists of Murdoch and the cronies of Gates and the other politicians

19:18 schestowitz-TR; I saw that

19:18 schestowitz-TR; it's all partisan

19:18 schestowitz-TR; "election deniers"

19:18 schestowitz-TR; see my remarks in irc

19:18 schestowitz-TR; this sort of press needs to die, in a fire...

19:20 schestowitz-TR; if the gates mansion got raided

19:20 schestowitz-TR; the media would quote cranks and spin the whole thing as just conspiracy theries

19:20 schestowitz-TR; and nothing to worry about

19:20 schestowitz-TR; certainly a mistake

19:20 Techrights-sec; yep the well has been poisoned quite in advance of such an eventuality

19:22 schestowitz-TR; "people shout at me in the streets"

19:22 schestowitz-TR; (billBC)

19:29 schestowitz-TR; many layoffs

19:29 schestowitz-TR; maybe some pre-emptive

19:29 schestowitz-TR; like team leaders

19:29 schestowitz-TR; I won't miss them

19:29 schestowitz-TR; bad orgs need to fail and get scuttled

19:29 schestowitz-TR; inc. LinuxToday in light of what it's doing this month

19:29 Techrights-sec; Aren't there major resgnations going on at the BBC, or have I misread?

19:34 schestowitz-TR; + # kludge for XML::Feed's hardcoded MIME Types

19:34 schestowitz-TR; + # this is brittle

19:34 schestowitz-TR; + my $f = $feed->as_xml;

19:34 schestowitz-TR; + $f =~ s|^(\s*<link [^>]+) (type="text/html")|$1 text="text/gemini"|gm;

19:34 schestowitz-TR; + return($f);

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21:24 Techrights-sec; yep, rather than spawning a shell and sed, the substitution occurs within perl

21:24 Techrights-sec; script. More can be done later but for now that work-around changes the

21:24 Techrights-sec; MIME Type

21:24 Techrights-sec; re: linux today, see PXE from Comes v M$ about killing Mac conferences

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22:29 schestowitz-TR; This post is about Microsoft and about Windows. But it does not mention either "Microsoft" or "Windows". Typical CISA. https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/08/09/cisa-adds-two-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog

22:29 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cisa.gov | CISA Adds Two Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog | CISA

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