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08:24 schestowitz-TR; gm, I am 99% sure now I will never go back on any social control media
08:24 schestowitz-TR; it would be as fruistless as having a "little smoke" after quitting
08:24 schestowitz-TR; not that I would describe that as psysically addictive
08:24 schestowitz-TR; how hard would it be to make the daily links present just the URL for each
08:24 schestowitz-TR; link
08:24 schestowitz-TR; not title -- just url, before each "block " or item?
08:24 schestowitz-TR; at the moment I do this manually, sometimes copying too little of the URL
08:24 schestowitz-TR; or "too much" of it
08:24 schestowitz-TR; i.e. broken link
08:24 schestowitz-TR; actualy. come to think of it... site name would be nice to have after the url
08:24 schestowitz-TR; so
08:24 schestowitz-TR; URL source: [site name]
08:24 schestowitz-TR; I have meanwhile pushed to git some changes from my end
08:28 Techrights-sec; It'd be easy to make that modification.
08:28 schestowitz-TR; I think (from memory) you commented out the lines which did something similar before
08:28 schestowitz-TR; maybe it can be exactly the same as before, except no hashtag and instead source: [name of site]
08:28 schestowitz-TR; at the end
08:28 schestowitz-TR; as the format no longer relies on the sea of spurious navigation by hashes
08:35 Techrights-sec; it'd be simple to prepent the URL before that.
08:35 Techrights-sec; Something like this?
08:35 Techrights-sec; <!--https://kevincox.ca/2022/03/18/multi-version-rollout/ Kevin Cox-->
08:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-kevincox.ca | Multi-Version Rollouts
08:40 schestowitz-TR; checking wth my side...
08:40 schestowitz-TR; ok, yes, I can see now in timeline.sh
08:40 schestowitz-TR; sed -Ee 's/<!--(....
08:40 schestowitz-TR; that's the lline which uncomments that
08:40 schestowitz-TR; so the below
08:40 schestowitz-TR; as you show in the prototype
08:40 schestowitz-TR; would likely be great
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08:48 Techrights-sec; <!-- https://kevincox.ca/2022/04/05/submitting-changes/ Kevin Cox -->
08:48 Techrights-sec; <h5>[[[[[Kevin Cox]]]]] <a href="https://kevincox.ca/2022/04/05/submitting-changes/">Submitting Changes</a></h
08:48 Techrights-sec; 5>
08:48 Techrights-sec; <blockquote>
08:48 Techrights-sec; <p>It would be possible to do a simple version manually, manually deploy to a slice of production after appr
08:48 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-kevincox.ca | Submitting Changes
08:48 Techrights-sec; oval. However, merge conflicts would cause a lot of pain and forgotten vers
08:48 Techrights-sec; </p></blockquote></li>
08:48 Techrights-sec; like that?
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08:50 schestowitz-TR; I think the [[[[ bits are added somewhere else already, so neo need for them
08:50 schestowitz-TR; ah, OK, yes, they get added there
08:50 schestowitz-TR; but at my end when all the links links I add are already there
08:50 schestowitz-TR; otherwise it duplicats the 'tagging'
08:53 schestowitz-TR; iirc, that's a script called social media interleave or similar
08:53 schestowitz-TR; I hope that musk stake will accelerate the death of this bubble/hype
08:53 schestowitz-TR; it shows who those sites served all along
08:53 schestowitz-TR; saudi price, bill gates, musk...
08:53 schestowitz-TR; and those people are being subjected to sharecropping
08:53 Techrights-sec; That's where they have been for a long time but I can remove them.
08:53 Techrights-sec; this is in links-interleave-social-control-media.pl
08:53 Techrights-sec; yes
08:53 Techrights-sec; Unfortunately the public is oblivious and uncaring about who controls
08:53 Techrights-sec; twitter and how much they are able to use it for manupulation. A lot of that
08:54 Techrights-sec; uncaring is due to severe psychological addiction and the various forms
08:54 Techrights-sec; of denial that go along with that.
08:54 schestowitz-TR; manipulation is the only business model they found. twitter started bombarding with ads only years ago, but that's just part of the "ads"
08:54 schestowitz-TR; iirc, it was an indian official who called "trending" what they are: ads
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08:58 Techrights-sec; yes, manipulation is the *only* business model and aside from Carole Cadwalladr
08:58 Techrights-sec; there are no journalists even looking at the problem and she has been
08:58 Techrights-sec; successfully marginalized and pushed aside
08:58 Techrights-sec; SLAPP : https://pressgazette.co.uk/carole-cadwalladr-will-defend-true-claims-about-brexiteer-aaron-banks-in-libel-battle/
08:58 Techrights-sec; https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jan/14/arron-banks-carole-cadwalladr-libel-trial
08:58 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pressgazette.co.uk | Carole Cadwalladr threatens to counter-sue Arron Banks after libel claim
08:58 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theguardian.com | Arron Bankss lawsuit against reporter a freedom of speech matter, court hears | Arron Banks | The Guardian
08:59 schestowitz-TR; craif murray had a decent rebuttal to it
08:59 schestowitz-TR; she is not so innocent either
08:59 schestowitz-TR; she picked on "enemies" of the bill guardian and co
09:00 Techrights-sec; Craig Murray has also been shut down more or less
09:00 Techrights-sec; Yet the grauniad is the only site covering her trial it seems
09:00 Techrights-sec; https://essexlawresearch.blog/2022/03/24/libel-trial-against-investigative-journalist-concludes-before-the-high-court-a-landmark-test-of-the-public-interest-defence/
09:00 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-essexlawresearch.blog | Libel Trial against Investigative Journalist Concludes Before the High Court: A Landmark Test of the Public Interest Defence | Essex Law Research Blog
09:09 schestowitz-TR; reading
09:10 Techrights-sec; the court appears to have sided with banks for all practical purposes though
09:10 Techrights-sec; superficially appearing to have done otherwise. The effect is the same
09:10 Techrights-sec; as a win for him, if I read correctly.
09:10 schestowitz-TR; so no matter the intenbtion
09:10 schestowitz-TR; or how shitty brexit is
09:10 schestowitz-TR; she may have done sloppy work
09:11 Techrights-sec; AFAIK she was about the only one to even try
09:15 schestowitz-TR; back in the goilden wikileaks era
09:15 schestowitz-TR; or wikileaks days
09:15 schestowitz-TR; assange still 'free'
09:15 schestowitz-TR; I saw some of her tweets
09:15 schestowitz-TR; never followed her articles closely
09:15 schestowitz-TR; the style was like that of qanon
09:15 schestowitz-TR; just post a bunch of photo ops
09:15 schestowitz-TR; or just photos of people
09:15 schestowitz-TR; seamed together as "tweets"
09:15 schestowitz-TR; and prove connections by some shitposting
09:15 schestowitz-TR; I focused (at the time) on Assange
09:15 schestowitz-TR; and how was luimped in with "RUSHA" and "brexit"
09:15 schestowitz-TR; this got her "likes" not for quality of journalism
09:15 schestowitz-TR; but for tribalism
09:15 schestowitz-TR; and scoring political points
09:15 schestowitz-TR; carole sure did msome "honourable" conspiracy theories
09:15 schestowitz-TR; and was a well-compensated "crank"
09:15 schestowitz-TR; the way I saw it
09:15 schestowitz-TR; and some insinuated she was possible used by intel agencies
09:15 schestowitz-TR; for some objectives of theiors
09:15 schestowitz-TR; notably, in that limited context, diluting public support
09:15 schestowitz-TR; for journalism that exposes war crimes etc.
09:19 Techrights-sec; RSF did mention the case back in January but just that once IIRC
09:19 Techrights-sec; Everything has been turned into tribalism and partisanship these days.
09:19 Techrights-sec; That part is likely. The intel agencies do appear to exploit who they can.
09:19 Techrights-sec; I notice that all the cranks still disparage Assange when they can, even
09:19 Techrights-sec; with lies that have been fully debunked yet still get trotted out.
09:19 Techrights-sec; Anyway, at least here, the media keeps pushing people to use social control
09:19 Techrights-sec; media even though it undermines their future (both the victims and the media)
09:20 schestowitz-TR; you won't appreciate me saying so
09:20 schestowitz-TR; but Julian did controbute to becoming an easier target
09:20 schestowitz-TR; some things he said and did
09:20 schestowitz-TR; some people whom he chose to meet etc.
09:20 schestowitz-TR; he should have been more prudent
09:20 schestowitz-TR; but that's not to say they wouldn't have found or made upo
09:20 schestowitz-TR; something else
09:20 schestowitz-TR; the general allute om f "scoail" media will wear offf
09:20 schestowitz-TR; when more people accept it's mostly fake
09:20 schestowitz-TR; and its impact overall is massively over-inflated
09:20 schestowitz-TR; and exaggerated to herd people there
09:20 schestowitz-TR; at one point even Brya Lunduike made the point about it being overrated
09:21 Techrights-sec; Not here. As the country falls further victim repeatedly to disinformation
09:21 Techrights-sec; campaigns that have profound effect on politics and politicians they still
09:21 Techrights-sec; push it.
09:21 Techrights-sec; Yes, but Bryan has gone off the deep end in recent years and has not had anything useful to say for about that long.
09:23 schestowitz-TR; from what I saw in dozens of OSNews comments, Lunduke managed to get himself
09:23 schestowitz-TR; canceled
09:23 schestowitz-TR; and even when he reported correctly on eleementaryOS (and this is now
09:23 schestowitz-TR; verified/affirmed) the focus was on him being a terrible persoon
09:23 schestowitz-TR; persona non grata
09:23 schestowitz-TR; whose site must not even be mentioned or linked to
09:24 Techrights-sec; https://itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis-sp-481/open-sauce/don-t-want-to-be-abused-online-simple,-stay-away-from-social-media.html
09:25 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-iTWire - Don't want to be abused online? Simple, stay away from social media
09:28 schestowitz-TR; have you put this link inm daily links?
09:28 schestowitz-TR; mind you, I had to click OK on 320+ dialogues when opening this page
09:28 schestowitz-TR; *30 times
09:28 schestowitz-TR; so many trackers and shit
09:28 schestowitz-TR; being off "social" media 'helps'
09:28 schestowitz-TR; it makes you less ionvolved
09:28 schestowitz-TR; and you don't end up wqresling with pigs in the mud
09:28 schestowitz-TR; but it is not an nsuranmce against being vilified there
09:28 schestowitz-TR; but the way twitter works, you cannot win
09:28 schestowitz-TR; because false statements remain
09:28 schestowitz-TR; and threding is terrible
09:28 schestowitz-TR; so context will, by design, be absent
09:33 Techrights-sec; Yes, one item which did not get enough coverage was his repeated observations
09:33 Techrights-sec; that YouTube videos containing the word "Linux" in the title got demonetized
09:33 Techrights-sec; consistently.
09:33 Techrights-sec; Yes, the opponents attack the messenger because ad hominem is all they can
09:33 Techrights-sec; counter with since their arguments have no merit when they exist at all
09:33 Techrights-sec; unfortunately most schools and communnity clubs are run via Facebook here
09:33 Techrights-sec; those few that are exceptions use something else Facebook like WhatsApp
09:33 Techrights-sec; and the members pat themselves on their backs for being clever in avoiding
09:33 Techrights-sec; Facebook. :/
09:33 Techrights-sec; avoidance of context is one of the methods they use to increase confusion and
09:33 Techrights-sec; strife and thus "enagagement" which equals more "clicks" and more manipulation
09:33 Techrights-sec; and more visceral responses thus feeding a vicious cycle.
09:33 schestowitz-TR; I assume one of the yeses above is to the link being in the next cycle of daily links
09:33 schestowitz-TR; I read it in a hurry just now
09:33 schestowitz-TR; that agrees with opinions I've formed myself
09:34 schestowitz-TR; although I'm a dataset of size 1
09:37 Techrights-sec; :)
09:38 schestowitz-TR; let's hope this can become a HUGE issue this year. The media is propping up the musk thing as great news
09:38 schestowitz-TR; this is sheer spin!!
09:39 schestowitz-TR; imagine that same media saying it's AWESOME and COOL
09:39 schestowitz-TR; that bezos bought washington post
09:39 schestowitz-TR; or jack ma with the HK press
09:40 Techrights-sec; It's sheer foolishness since social control media damages the press,
09:40 Techrights-sec; twitter in particular damages the press, and Musk will use it as a hammer
09:40 Techrights-sec; to further damage the press and push his agendas and various pump-and-dump
09:40 Techrights-sec; schemes
09:40 Techrights-sec; yep bezos and gates and ma
09:40 Techrights-sec; ma was put away by the CCP more recently
09:42 schestowitz-TR; they put both people and companies (and celebs)
09:42 schestowitz-TR; and people WITH companies
09:42 schestowitz-TR; if they become too powerful and independent
09:42 schestowitz-TR; veering in their own direction
09:42 schestowitz-TR; and drawing inspiration
09:42 schestowitz-TR; only pooh is allowed that
09:42 schestowitz-TR; *put AWAY
09:42 schestowitz-TR; fwiw, corporations operate similarl
09:42 schestowitz-TR; they remove staff that poses a threat to the management
09:42 schestowitz-TR; and can become management
09:42 schestowitz-TR; unless it's part of the existing clique
09:42 schestowitz-TR; so it's not about skills but self-defence
09:44 Techrights-sec; https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/24/technology/china-jack-ma-alibaba.html
09:44 Techrights-sec; just if they get too independent just as JK Rowling or John Lennon
09:44 Techrights-sec; if they contribute nothing to society, such as the Kardashian herd, then
09:44 Techrights-sec; they're allowed to continue as they are
09:44 Techrights-sec; https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/22/technology/jack-ma-alibaba-tycoons.html
09:44 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nytimes.com | Why China Turned Against Alibaba's Jack Ma - The New York Times
09:44 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nytimes.com | Jack Ma Shows Why Chinas Tycoons Keep Quiet - The New York Times
09:44 Techrights-sec; https://www.forbes.com/sites/georgecalhoun/2021/06/24/what-really-happened-to-jack-ma/
09:44 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.forbes.com | What Really Happened To Jack Ma?
09:44 schestowitz-TR; musk is to twitter what andrew lee is (was?) to freenode
09:44 Techrights-sec; one can hope
09:45 schestowitz-TR; lol, not the response I was expecting
09:48 Techrights-sec; I have no good will towards twitter at all
09:48 schestowitz-TR; its influence and reach have both been waning
09:49 schestowitz-TR; but like FB they hide it
09:49 schestowitz-TR; and they fake it
09:49 schestowitz-TR; by sending all the users to few very active "zones"
09:49 schestowitz-TR; or high-profile accounts that 'media' will quote
09:49 schestowitz-TR; as if this was "the scene"
09:50 Techrights-sec; again the "media" is part of the problem even when it is against their own
09:50 Techrights-sec; interests to do so
09:56 schestowitz-TR; collective interest
09:56 schestowitz-TR; need collective actionb
09:56 schestowitz-TR; they hope to gfain "edge"
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10:08 Techrights-sec; Prisoners' Dilemma
10:08 Techrights-sec; https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/prisoner-dilemma/
10:08 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-plato.stanford.edu | Prisoners Dilemma (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
10:12 schestowitz-TR; the filters and the reaction
10:12 schestowitz-TR; imperial the freedom or willingness to speak openly and frankly
10:12 schestowitz-TR; case or example:
10:12 schestowitz-TR; I said "microsoft piece of shit company" in a videio yesterday
10:12 schestowitz-TR; in gulagtube people avoid such terms
10:12 schestowitz-TR; or remove them after recording
10:12 schestowitz-TR; or upload, get a warning, then change behaviour
10:12 schestowitz-TR; twitter is a lot like that with covid-19 and ABCD+
10:12 schestowitz-TR; you have to think twice or thrice before saying things
10:12 schestowitz-TR; *imperial/imperil/
10:12 schestowitz-TR; this gives AMPLE political control to the platform owner
10:12 schestowitz-TR; Elon Musk already had Twitter BAN people who used his surname or maybe face
10:12 schestowitz-TR; in twitter
10:12 schestowitz-TR; many people forgot that (and the reaction to it)
10:20 Techrights-sec; most only remember a few minutes at a time AFAIK
10:20 schestowitz-TR; info overload contributes to this
10:20 schestowitz-TR; irc can be more manageable
10:20 schestowitz-TR; if done right
10:20 schestowitz-TR; no unified ui
10:24 Techrights-sec; most only remember a few minutes at a time AFAIK
10:32 schestowitz-TR; The Jackson confirmation, like OJ Simpson case, shows quite an accomplishment; they've made it all about race and this way marg
10:32 schestowitz-TR; inalised any actual substance.
10:32 Techrights-sec; yep that keeps anyone from discussing actual qualifications or important
10:32 Techrights-sec; issues
10:33 schestowitz-TR; not limited to courts and politics
10:33 schestowitz-TR; FOSS has a combination of money (GSoC, Outreachy) tried to it
10:33 schestowitz-TR; so if you decline
10:33 schestowitz-TR; you are both a commie
10:33 schestowitz-TR; and a bigot
10:48 Techrights-sec; outreachy seems more about politics and control intrigue than anything about
10:48 Techrights-sec; code
10:48 Techrights-sec; OpenBSD appears to have the best CoC by far out of any extant project
10:48 Techrights-sec; However, the reason FOSS is attacked is because of the utility the software
10:48 Techrights-sec; has had. Thus the two-pronged approach to 1) weaken the softwatre (e.g.
10:48 Techrights-sec; systemd) and 2) control the software and its developers (eg. systemd)
10:49 schestowitz-TR; I have just watched that video you sent over about being put in the "gulag"
10:49 schestowitz-TR; HE USED THE WORD
10:49 schestowitz-TR; Gulagtube will only get more oppressive, not more lenient, over time
10:49 Techrights-sec; yes, many are noticing but only as they themselves are pushed out and silenced
10:49 Techrights-sec; there
10:51 schestowitz-TR; I am going to start copying some parts of /home and mater /root as backups of TR
10:51 schestowitz-TR; to the new laptop, which has 1TB
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11:10 schestowitz-TR; truly terrible weather here later
11:10 schestowitz-TR; cold, war, super-windy
11:10 schestowitz-TR; doing actualm damage
11:10 schestowitz-TR; *lately, not later
11:12 DaemonFC; $13 to make a pot of slow cooker sweet and sour meatballs with ingredients from Walmart. Actually, it takes half of a family sized bag of frozen meatballs.
11:12 DaemonFC; So I'll have half a bag left. Total order $16.85
11:13 DaemonFC; It's always more expensive to make a recipe every year. :P
11:13 DaemonFC; My favorite is when all of the can and bag sizes have changed because they want to hide the inflation.
11:13 DaemonFC; Then it throws the entire recipe off.
13:20 Techrights-sec; "OBEY", "CONFORM", "MARRY AND REPRODUCE", "CONSUME", "WATCH TELEVISION" and "SLEEP"
13:20 Techrights-sec; https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096256/plotsummary
13:20 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-They Live (1988) - Plot Summary - IMDb
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15:20 schestowitz-TR; I have dropped gulag alerts altogether
15:20 schestowitz-TR; still undecided on gulag noise
15:20 schestowitz-TR; I keep picking up patent news iun general
15:20 schestowitz-TR; but 90% of it would be better not amplified
15:20 Techrights-sec; however I suspect that the only way to get patent news is to sift through
15:20 Techrights-sec; tremendous loads of crap
15:20 Techrights-sec; I use fie pre-loaded Google News searches but only check them occasionally
15:20 Techrights-sec; since it is so rare for those feeds to contain anyting relevant let alone
15:20 Techrights-sec; both relevant and of decent quality.
15:23 schestowitz-TR; one option at the end of my head was, gulag "enhanced"
15:23 schestowitz-TR; where spamSites are culled, and topics somehow organised
15:23 schestowitz-TR; but no program can replace a human assessor
15:23 schestowitz-TR; esp. in subjects that ar e'specialised'
15:23 schestowitz-TR; hence I stopped thinking
15:23 schestowitz-TR; so it's a GIGO problem with no simple solution to it
15:23 schestowitz-TR; you start with the sobjective: Daily Links and TuxMachines with many
15:23 schestowitz-TR; relevant Linux links
15:23 schestowitz-TR; then, for patents, correcting lies
15:23 schestowitz-TR; the latter is more difficult as it is a precarious situatuin
15:23 schestowitz-TR; when I was in social control media I had an approch for responding, but it still;
15:23 schestowitz-TR; sent them traffic
15:25 Techrights-sec; in anyting relevant let alone
15:25 Techrights-sec; both relevant and of decent quality.
15:25 Techrights-sec; Best to avoid sending traffic to them/
15:25 Techrights-sec; yes twitter is designed for such misuse of the "report" button
15:25 Techrights-sec; there is also "brigading" there too
15:26 schestowitz-TR; in the moe distant past (about 5) years I had another approacj: take the false tweets
15:26 schestowitz-TR; "Mention"(TM) them
15:26 schestowitz-TR; and then correct them inline
15:26 schestowitz-TR; but thiks has gotten risky as they can report you for "abuse"
15:26 schestowitz-TR; or"block" uou to make the Mention "not available"
15:26 schestowitz-TR; moreobver, it requires readyg tweets
15:26 schestowitz-TR; I used to follow the PPEPo's wteets, all of them, when RSS was possible
15:26 schestowitz-TR; even the third parties are blocked noiw
15:31 Techrights-sec; it also allows various marginal agendas to push into mainstream despite
15:31 Techrights-sec; being otherwise upopular and even despised; that too drives "engagement" due
15:31 Techrights-sec; to the strife it causes
15:31 schestowitz-TR; brigading is encouraged by twitter as it drives engagamnebne
15:31 schestowitz-TR; but only the "good" brigading
15:31 schestowitz-TR; like, if Elon Musk likes it and you luagh at the "pedo guy" driver who risked his life
15:31 Techrights-sec; Not only risked his life but had nearly unique skills with best-in-the-world
15:31 Techrights-sec; experience in those skills. The people who could have taken on that task
15:31 Techrights-sec; wouldn't even need all fingers on one hand to count.
15:31 Techrights-sec; There are a lot of divers, but very few cavers who are divers. There is a
15:31 Techrights-sec; big difference with the foundation. He was first and foremost a spelunker.
15:31 Techrights-sec; https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/article/inside-the-risky-cave-dive-that-rescued-a-thai-soccer-team
15:31 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nationalgeographic.com | Inside the risky cave dive that rescued a Thai soccer team
15:32 schestowitz-TR; I always have to remind myself who owns NeoGeo
15:32 schestowitz-TR; I've loved and sued their wallpapers/photos sine I was about 15
15:32 schestowitz-TR; *used
15:33 Techrights-sec; Yes, it got sold not so long ago and shifted focus a bit and priorities a lot.
15:33 Techrights-sec; :(
15:35 schestowitz-TR; "
15:35 schestowitz-TR; some people/corproiations/interests stand to benefit a lot
15:35 schestowitz-TR; not necessarily from changing the agenda of neogeo
15:35 schestowitz-TR; but just buying it and doing nothign with it
15:35 schestowitz-TR; the same is true for companioes bought companies and orgs
15:35 schestowitz-TR; buy and let rot
15:35 schestowitz-TR; "give me your sandwich!!!"
15:35 schestowitz-TR; "are ... you.. actualyl going to eat it?"
15:36 Techrights-sec; https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/movies/story/2021-10-16/thailand-cave-rescue-divers-documentary
15:36 Techrights-sec; Yes, there is the threat of just letting it quietly waste away. That gets it
15:36 Techrights-sec; outof the way without the fight and ruckus that would come with trying to change
15:36 Techrights-sec; it too much or shut it down quickly.
15:36 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.latimes.com | 'The Rescue' real people: Cave divers tell their stories - Los Angeles Times
15:37 schestowitz-TR; I wonder WHICH year in Business [siuc] School [sic] they teach that
15:37 schestowitz-TR; AshitPie
15:40 Techrights-sec; :(
15:40 Techrights-sec; MBA is just rationalised theft and fraud. No redeeming value. I figure
15:40 Techrights-sec; there's an inverse relation between the number of MBAs in a business and
15:40 Techrights-sec; its economic viability. However, the only institutions which would study
15:40 Techrights-sec; that, even given the numbers from the dot-com era, would be business schools
15:40 Techrights-sec; and there's not getting past the conflict of interest there. They would not
15:40 Techrights-sec; be willing to gather data showing that they are egnaged in fraud and that the
15:40 Techrights-sec; world would be better off without their interference.
15:43 schestowitz-TR; old story, maybe I mentioned in irc some time in the past
15:43 schestowitz-TR; in summer 2003 I think
15:43 schestowitz-TR; we were moveed in the student halld
15:43 schestowitz-TR; I was phd candidate
15:43 schestowitz-TR; they had to repair/change all the shower in the building
15:43 schestowitz-TR; so for a week or so I ended up sharing a unit (kitchen, lounge) with some indian oriigin
15:43 schestowitz-TR; MBA student
15:43 schestowitz-TR; that person was the most despicable thing I ever came across
15:43 schestowitz-TR; sociopath in his 20s
15:43 schestowitz-TR; unable to see what he himself was
15:43 schestowitz-TR; I did have experience with other MBA students
15:43 schestowitz-TR; one of them, Hans (Norway), was my friend
15:43 schestowitz-TR; all the rest were tasteless people or worse
15:44 Techrights-sec; https://text.npr.org/1043363760
15:44 Techrights-sec; MBAs are notorious for not being very bright
15:44 Techrights-sec; nor ethical
15:44 Techrights-sec; Theyre also partially responsible for the plague of m$ products about in the
15:44 Techrights-sec; world, a capital crime as far as I see it.
15:44 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-text.npr.org | Documentary follows the divers who risked it all in the Thailand cave rescue
15:45 schestowitz-TR; bribes are "marketing help"
15:45 schestowitz-TR; just keep saying it, keep lying
15:45 schestowitz-TR; a colleague my senior at the tme, gilles (from france), had a very dim view of MBA students
15:45 schestowitz-TR; but I did not (yet/) know why
15:46 Techrights-sec; MBAs are often very one-dimensional along with the other problems
15:46 Techrights-sec; no depth, just greed and fraud
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16:08 Techrights-sec; "...and can lead to a successful bankruptcy..." [citation omitted]
16:08 schestowitz-TR; oxymoron
16:08 schestowitz-TR; elop led to a successful demise
16:08 schestowitz-TR; iirc elop went to some business [sic] school [sic] in canada
16:08 schestowitz-TR; haha, if bankruptcy is success, when what is a failure???c
16:08 schestowitz-TR; *then what exactly would a failure be? Getting BACK to business?
16:10 Techrights-sec; he was different, the Nokia board lied and signed a unique contract with him
16:10 Techrights-sec; granting him a $25 M bonus if he sold the company to M$. So he torpedoed every
16:10 Techrights-sec; thing he could and even sold off the headquarters. When the company was then
16:10 Techrights-sec; on the ropes, M$ bought it for an old song and the board gave Elop his bonus.
16:10 Techrights-sec; Very little has been commented in regards to the board's role in
16:10 Techrights-sec; setting the company up for failure. I speculate that 99% of it was to
16:10 Techrights-sec; eliminate the Linux-based phone because it was even getting better reviews
16:10 Techrights-sec; than the iphone at the time.
16:10 Techrights-sec; I guess failure would be reinvesting in and growing a business further.
16:10 Techrights-sec; Yep, failure would be being in business with the money rolling in and
16:10 Techrights-sec; building capital and critical skills and experience.
16:10 Techrights-sec; Furthermore, businesses (or any institution) cannot keep skilled people,
16:10 Techrights-sec; especially not the best, once a critical threshold is crossed. MBAs cut
16:10 Techrights-sec; investments until that threshold gets crossed and then they can
16:10 Techrights-sec; ride the company down until they hop off after a "successful bankruptcy"
16:11 schestowitz-TR; well, they ruined the most important company in that country
16:11 schestowitz-TR; and, afaik, also the largest employer except maybe the federal gov
16:11 schestowitz-TR; through I'm sure in helsinki it's the dominent empoloyer
16:11 schestowitz-TR; so it was not some business venture
16:11 schestowitz-TR; but filrting with sedition, treason
16:11 schestowitz-TR; and moreover aiminmg to sell to the US when you have a vast border , a land border, with russia, is absolutely insane
16:13 Techrights-sec; yep and probably broke quite a few laws but fat chance of getting the boare
16:13 Techrights-sec; board prosecuted
16:13 Techrights-sec; https://www.businessinsider.com/people-are-furious-over-accident-that-gave-nokia-ceo-255-million-payday-in-microsoft-sale-2013-9?r=US&IR=T
16:13 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.businessinsider.com | 'Accident' That Gave Nokia CEO $25.5 Million Payday in Microsoft Sale
16:13 Techrights-sec; https://www.computerworld.com/article/2474943/stephen-elop-s-reward-for-running-nokia-into-the-ground---25-million.html
16:13 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Stephen Elop's reward for running Nokia into the ground: $25 million | Computerworld
16:14 Techrights-sec; https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/stephen-elop-to-get-25-5m-for-selling-nokia-to-microsoft-1.1867972
16:14 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cbc.ca | Stephen Elop to get $25.5M for selling Nokia to Microsoft | CBC News
16:15 schestowitz-TR; Let's see what payday is impending for M. Baker3~
16:15 Techrights-sec; "Nokia board chairman misled media about size of bonus for ex-CEO..."
16:15 Techrights-sec; she's cut from the same cloth
16:24 schestowitz-TR; last night I thought abouyt setting up a subdomain and instance of invidious for TR
16:24 Techrights-sec; probably
16:24 Techrights-sec; ok
16:24 schestowitz-TR; but then I lkooked closer
16:24 schestowitz-TR; it's a nuclear thing from a legal perspective
16:24 schestowitz-TR; and can even jeopardise the TLD
16:24 schestowitz-TR; as you may have see (git, irc logs), we made an instance randomiser
16:37 schestowitz-TR; i need to change a couple of code files
16:37 schestowitz-TR; for handling the changes or the expsnsion of the links in daily links
16:37 schestowitz-TR; that should not be hard
16:38 schestowitz-TR; one needs to remove <-- and --> when retreiving
16:38 schestowitz-TR; the secnd will need to remove the bitswhen I finalise
16:38 Techrights-sec; which ones?
16:38 Techrights-sec; ok
16:38 schestowitz-TR; for details look at page source of latest techrights post
16:38 Techrights-sec; But does it validate?
16:38 Techrights-sec; :(
16:38 schestowitz-TR; it looks OK as HTML
16:38 schestowitz-TR; I think it'll be converted OK to gemtext
16:38 schestowitz-TR; but I am going to use sed, I think,
16:38 schestowitz-TR; validation results had 200+ errors
16:38 schestowitz-TR; but because of the commented bit
16:38 schestowitz-TR; maybe I will replace the body of that post soon
16:39 schestowitz-TR; for test's sake/purposes
16:39 schestowitz-TR; could you pls reload today's links with the changes incorporated?
16:39 schestowitz-TR; I will then see if the bits gets stripped OK at my side
16:45 Techrights-sec; ok
16:45 Techrights-sec; just a minute
16:45 Techrights-sec; uploaded but the changes are not there.
16:45 Techrights-sec; looking
16:45 Techrights-sec; re-running
16:45 Techrights-sec; maybe UTF-8 problem -- again
16:47 schestowitz-TR; I'll fix the UTF-8 in a bit, the rest should be ok?
16:47 Techrights-sec; I'll fix the UTF-8 in a bit, the rest should be ok?
16:49 schestowitz-TR; oh, now I remember how we did this before
16:49 schestowitz-TR; you were not running interleave script
16:49 schestowitz-TR; I ran it only at my end
16:49 schestowitz-TR; because it would incorporate additional links
16:49 Techrights-sec; correct that script was commented out from the maintenance script here
16:49 Techrights-sec; I'll remove it here again
16:49 schestowitz-TR; AAAif that gets removed, there won't be premade lines for IRC
16:55 schestowitz-TR; i think one simple fix is, at your end the tags get turned off (commented out from the code)
16:55 schestowitz-TR; and then at my end only, when I run "finalise" that bit is 'toggled on'
16:55 schestowitz-TR; that might be a very simple 'hack'fix
16:55 schestowitz-TR; simpler than running a think to check if a tag exists already
16:55 schestowitz-TR; when I say tag I mean [[[[[
16:57 schestowitz-TR; OK, so basically there is one mode of run where it adds the "lines"
16:57 schestowitz-TR; and another (final, my side) where it adds all the tags
17:15 schestowitz-TR; pushed to git a fix
17:15 schestowitz-TR; so basically the issue will be solved if at your end it makes the "line" (same form as in latest
17:15 schestowitz-TR; upload, today's links)
17:15 schestowitz-TR; and then the tags are added only at my end
17:42 Techrights-sec; checking
17:42 schestowitz-TR; oneoption might be command line parameter acting like a flag
17:42 schestowitz-TR; or just some variable somewhere
17:42 schestowitz-TR; to keep it from branching off into two separate files
17:42 Techrights-sec; that's feasible, just have to track down the UTF-8 problem with the module
17:44 schestowitz-TR; (just got some epo doc)
17:44 schestowitz-TR; may do a video shortly
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17:59 Techrights-sec; ack
18:04 Techrights-sec; fixed the UTF8 bug
18:04 schestowitz-TR; :-)
18:09 schestowitz-TR; it's good that we equip ourselves with s/w and h/w tools
18:09 schestowitz-TR; last night I spent ages on the new laptop
18:09 schestowitz-TR; there was a pesky memory leak issue
18:09 schestowitz-TR; to get under control
18:09 schestowitz-TR; i nearly had to reboot but recovered from tty2
18:09 schestowitz-TR; at the moment I back up the site to both laptops, then I will do tuxmachines also
18:09 schestowitz-TR; my home connection is therefore slow
18:09 schestowitz-TR; and you may feel that, e.g. over gemini or ssh
18:09 schestowitz-TR; 12 gb done since morning
18:09 schestowitz-TR; tbh, i still don't know how to cover the patent fud
18:09 schestowitz-TR; I have until tomorrow to decide
18:09 schestowitz-TR; I don't want to just ignore it all
18:09 schestowitz-TR; as that leaves only zoobab
18:09 Techrights-sec; QuiteRSS seems to leak
18:09 Techrights-sec; I think cgroups or something could be used to contain it
18:09 Techrights-sec; It's usually quite slow there anyway :/
18:09 Techrights-sec; Ignoring it would not be such a good idea.
18:09 Techrights-sec; How will zoobab approach the problem?
18:10 schestowitz-TR; he can press "like" on tweets...
18:10 schestowitz-TR; he has not done a lot lately
18:10 schestowitz-TR; a "hell of shame"-type approach would in theory work
18:10 schestowitz-TR; but I don't know how to make that work
18:11 schestowitz-TR; *hall
18:15 Techrights-sec; What other approaches are on the shortlist?
18:15 schestowitz-TR; one that I tried years ago was,
18:15 schestowitz-TR; take screenshot of flase article
18:15 schestowitz-TR; than use textual response
18:15 schestowitz-TR; but I am very meticulous with text in the site
18:15 schestowitz-TR; as it is not judged like audio and IRC
18:15 schestowitz-TR; so you cannot do one article per minute
18:15 schestowitz-TR; That's why I started doing videos a month before the strike and a month after
18:15 schestowitz-TR; 8 weeks, 8 parts
18:15 Techrights-sec; That approach sounds good. It's slower, of course, but docuents the
18:15 Techrights-sec; lies very carefully without feeding them traffic.
18:15 Techrights-sec; and rebuts them.
18:16 schestowitz-TR; I will try that tomorrow
18:16 schestowitz-TR; will put headlines in alt=""
18:20 Techrights-sec; ack
18:20 Techrights-sec; yes and they have long demonetized anything with "Linux" inthe title
18:20 schestowitz-TR; we are going to see lots of very pissed off vloggers after covid-19
18:20 schestowitz-TR; under the guise of "facts" gulag is taking things up a notch
18:20 schestowitz-TR; it started with alex jones, avid ike, stephen mulleneaux (ignore spelling)
18:20 schestowitz-TR; and now they target 'edgy' free software broadcasters
18:20 schestowitz-TR; lbry is not really the best alternative
18:20 schestowitz-TR; for as plethora of reason
18:20 schestowitz-TR; they hop from blogs to twitter to youtube
18:21 schestowitz-TR; and thosew ho feel threatened respond
18:21 schestowitz-TR; even freenode
18:21 schestowitz-TR; chris titus makes a lot of windows shit
18:21 schestowitz-TR; but he mentioned that "linux" videos get him flagged
18:21 schestowitz-TR; that reduces the incentive to even decie to cover the topic
18:21 Techrights-sec; that's most likely their goal ...
18:22 Techrights-sec; some or all of that appears automated
18:23 schestowitz-TR; there is also language control
18:23 schestowitz-TR; cannnot say shit
18:24 schestowitz-TR; cannot even say ashitpie
18:24 schestowitz-TR; because crime sis OK
18:24 schestowitz-TR; the response to crime is "toxic
18:24 schestowitz-TR; automatic "moderation" is best
18:24 schestowitz-TR; because they remove legal issue (liability)
18:24 schestowitz-TR; and it removes costs assopciated with proper analysis
18:24 schestowitz-TR; like IBM/Red Hat versus Poock
18:24 schestowitz-TR; an actual person mentioned 3 conditions IBM failed to fulfil
18:24 schestowitz-TR; with shithub, as noted this morninmg, takedown req = success
18:24 schestowitz-TR; 99% of the time
18:25 Techrights-sec; the soud "linux" ought to be easy for their algorithms to pick up and flag
18:25 Techrights-sec; there are basically no channels to appeal the take down or get a manual review
18:25 schestowitz-TR; or almost justb as bad , demonetised
18:25 schestowitz-TR; "do more of this and you will starve"
18:25 schestowitz-TR; try ANOTHER topic instead
18:25 schestowitz-TR; other topics re "more successful"
18:26 Techrights-sec; yep
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18:28 schestowitz-TR; gulag is the puppy owner sticking the "cointent creators" face in front of the
18:28 schestowitz-TR; piss and the shit
18:28 schestowitz-TR; the poor puppy (don't kick the puppy!) will leave, over time...
18:28 schestowitz-TR; "I love you, big brother"
18:28 schestowitz-TR; *will learn, over time
18:28 schestowitz-TR; and thias is one of many ways those sites manipulate and shape opinion
18:28 schestowitz-TR; hedges interviews with people like chomsky are all gone
18:28 schestowitz-TR; so people won't learn the "other side"
18:29 Techrights-sec; their business goals probably include paying out the least possible amount
18:29 Techrights-sec; stockholm syndrome
18:29 Techrights-sec; LBRY via Odysee is picking up a lot of vloggers, but it still pays almost
18:29 Techrights-sec; nothing due to their playing around with cryptocurrency
18:29 Techrights-sec; With an empirical fact, there is no "other side", but many don't want people to
18:29 Techrights-sec; remember that at all.
18:32 schestowitz-TR; .nl inflation rose to 12%
18:32 schestowitz-TR; I will cover this shjortly
18:32 schestowitz-TR; also I'm on shift
18:32 schestowitz-TR; butbut f* this s*
18:32 schestowitz-TR; I do 1 hour, 2 max
18:32 schestowitz-TR; on shift iwill 1am, samr tomorrow
18:32 schestowitz-TR; /iwill/till/
18:32 schestowitz-TR; ota
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