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08:43 Techrights-sec; topic idea for later: https://bannedbooksweek.org/
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08:45 schestowitz-TR2; thanks
08:45 schestowitz-TR2; today is exam day
08:45 schestowitz-TR2; for the second time in a week an interruption caused me to forget something I was about to do
08:45 schestowitz-TR2; I wrote about it in my personal blog, at long last
08:45 schestowitz-TR2; I think this happens to everyone
09:00 Techrights-sec; Good luck to Rianne on the exams
09:00 Techrights-sec; The animated GIFs are probably processed by ImageMagick on a single core.
09:00 Techrights-sec; It basically ends up being video processing using a tool not designed for such.
09:00 Techrights-sec; In principle it is likely a very parallelizable task but not really the
09:00 Techrights-sec; main purpose of ImageMagick and I myself don't have the skill to write a
09:00 Techrights-sec; patch for them.
09:00 schestowitz-TR2; it's OK, don't bother changing it
09:00 schestowitz-TR2; at the end it did finish
09:00 schestowitz-TR2; it's actually part of the reason I got distracted and forgot something
09:00 schestowitz-TR2; about 4 things going on all at once
09:00 schestowitz-TR2; GIFs have inter-frame compression fo sorts, so doing frames across cores might be tricky and splitting the same frame across CPUs the same
09:00 schestowitz-TR2; or across cores
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10:13 Techrights-sec; I thought it was MPEG and the other video formats which had inter-frame
10:13 Techrights-sec; compression and that GIF merely moved through a stack of images. But then
10:13 Techrights-sec; I have no detailed knowledge of the formats.
10:15 schestowitz-TR2; mr gif dies months ago
10:15 schestowitz-TR2; I know from experience that a gif with many similar frames is a lot smaller
10:15 schestowitz-TR2; never mind pallette size
10:15 schestowitz-TR2; and so I assume there's some in-file compression
10:15 schestowitz-TR2; maybe I'm wrong and it's a stack of images compressed AT THE END
10:15 schestowitz-TR2; but judging by how it is handled on the Web
10:15 schestowitz-TR2; where it starts showing frames before the whole is ready
10:15 schestowitz-TR2; that cannot be the case
10:15 schestowitz-TR2; maybe some ad hoc dynamic compression of some sort
10:15 schestowitz-TR2; optical flow maybe
10:15 schestowitz-TR2; but I think animated gifs predate that
10:15 Techrights-sec; Ok, that makes sense.
10:22 schestowitz-TR2; ot: experimented with some 'extra' sleep the past fortnight
10:22 schestowitz-TR2; did not notice positive effects
10:22 schestowitz-TR2; might go back to 6 a day, split across 2 or 3
10:22 schestowitz-TR2; starting tonight
10:22 schestowitz-TR2; this week I did experience limited memroy capacity and motivation was not high
10:22 schestowitz-TR2; in fact, when aware 18 hours in a row there's some mental fatigue
10:22 schestowitz-TR2; so better split off into chunks so that there are rest breaks
10:22 schestowitz-TR2; I came back to coffee yesterday
10:22 schestowitz-TR2; I've just seen a link you sent about micro-posts, posts the length of a tweet
10:22 schestowitz-TR2; I think that in TR, if we deploy the same CMS, there will be a more suitable workflow of publications
10:22 schestowitz-TR2; which wordpress isn't adequate for
10:22 schestowitz-TR2; the wordpress side is good for certain types of posts
10:22 schestowitz-TR2; and soon wordpress will no longer bring security patches for it
10:22 schestowitz-TR2; itsfoss.com has a site called news.itsfoss.com
10:22 schestowitz-TR2; they're not the same, not the same people, not the same software
10:22 schestowitz-TR2; but one is less formal than the other
10:22 schestowitz-TR2; I think that's one possible approach for TR
10:22 schestowitz-TR2; a lot of what gets posted to IRC, or stuff with editorial comments, can instead be a short post
10:22 schestowitz-TR2; a bit like tumblr
10:22 chunky; did u say.. chunks..?
10:22 schestowitz-TR2; yes!
10:22 *chunky chef kissyfingers
10:23 schestowitz-TR2; btw
10:23 schestowitz-TR2; I was in tesco last month
10:23 schestowitz-TR2; saw that item that says "chunky"
10:23 schestowitz-TR2; it's a forzen food
10:23 schestowitz-TR2; *frozen
10:23 chunky; nice
10:23 schestowitz-TR2; so when I walk past it I go
10:23 chunky; tesco is UK?
10:23 schestowitz-TR2; "oh... chunky... I know him!"
10:23 chunky; hell yeah
10:23 schestowitz-TR2; yes, tesco
10:23 chunky; that's me!
10:24 Techrights-sec; If I have read correctly, WordPress has mainly gone SaaS and it's decreasingly
10:24 Techrights-sec; possible to run one's own instance.
10:24 Techrights-sec; Approximately how many accounts will need to post to TR in the future?
10:24 Techrights-sec; A good bit of the parts from the current tm-new probably need to be modified
10:24 Techrights-sec; to fit into the different work flow.
10:24 chunky; i dunno what you're reading but that sounds very wrong
10:25 chunky; open source wordpress is the same as it ever was from my perspective
10:25 chunky; i'm forced to work on wordpress sites quite a bit so i'm a little familiar
10:25 chunky; maybe you're talking about wordpress.com rather than running your own installation of wordpress
10:26 chunky; anyway it's a bad platform, technologically dated
10:26 chunky; (imo)
10:28 schestowitz-TR2; yeah
10:28 schestowitz-TR2; I agree
10:28 schestowitz-TR2; Techrights-sec:
10:28 schestowitz-TR2; your assertion about wordpress is not accurate, it's not that it discourages self-hosting, but to me it is the bloat and fast release pace
10:28 schestowitz-TR2; I don't think that TM CMS will need much adjustment for TR
10:28 schestowitz-TR2; we're still talking about automated split into taxonomy, maybe daily archives
10:28 schestowitz-TR2; I think wordpress will stay
10:28 schestowitz-TR2; some dorks like me will backport patches
10:28 schestowitz-TR2; as happened with drupal 6
10:28 schestowitz-TR2; but wordpress is suitable for long form posts
10:28 schestowitz-TR2; like projects.propublica.com
10:28 schestowitz-TR2; whether to run with multiple CMS types and then duse together rss feeds, I don't know
10:28 schestowitz-TR2; but I know a lot of what I post in wordpress would be more suitably done some other way
10:28 schestowitz-TR2; with another workflow
10:28 schestowitz-TR2; wordpress was designed as b2 a long time ago for another era and another purpose
10:28 schestowitz-TR2; now it does all this clowny stuff, as you note, and that was made evident in recent releases of it
10:28 schestowitz-TR2; it's the era of GAFAM, not technorai and Firefox
10:28 chunky; schestowitz-TR2: why do your chats come out in batches like that? do you have a poor connection or is that intentional?
10:29 schestowitz-TR2; *Technorati (incidentally, its founder moved to Mozilla)
10:29 chunky; i used to think you guys were simulating chats programatically in here because of that, but now i realize that's not the case.. still, curious
10:29 schestowitz-TR2; it's done over a bridge
10:29 schestowitz-TR2; in ytalk
10:29 chunky; ah ok.. maybe the bridge could use some work ;x
10:29 chunky; unelss you're writing longform like email
10:29 chunky; then i guess it's all working as it should
10:29 schestowitz-TR2; the timing is poor
10:29 schestowitz-TR2; but the sequence is still more or less alright
10:30 chunky; my preferred platform these dies for blog/news/etc type platforms is Hugo
10:30 chunky; it's a static site generator and it's an absolute joy to use
10:30 schestowitz-TR2; Hugo has a dependency chain I don't like
10:30 chunky; these days*
10:30 schestowitz-TR2; so we rejectec it
10:30 schestowitz-TR2; and wrote our own
10:30 chunky; ah ok, understood
10:30 schestowitz-TR2; reading code is hard
10:30 schestowitz-TR2; writing code is easier
10:30 schestowitz-TR2; so if you adopt some thing like hugo
10:30 chunky; i don't think anybody would argue w/ that
10:30 schestowitz-TR2; you're at their mercy
10:31 schestowitz-TR2; then they have new releases
10:31 schestowitz-TR2; maybe your hacks obsolete
10:31 chunky; the one thing i don't like about hugo is that it really does assume you're structuring a website like a blog
10:31 schestowitz-TR2; even if you use hooks
10:31 schestowitz-TR2; they can later remove or break APIs too
10:31 chunky; but overall i really do enjoy using it
10:31 schestowitz-TR2; so you're never really in control of your system
10:31 schestowitz-TR2; and cannot shape it to your needs
10:31 chunky; yeah, fair enough
10:31 chunky; you're in a similar boat w/ wordpress though, i imagine
10:31 chunky; but at least it's not written in a language created by google ;x
10:31 schestowitz-TR2; tuxmachines is not a blog
10:32 schestowitz-TR2; it's something different
10:32 schestowitz-TR2; and it has almost 200k pages
10:32 chunky; oh yeah i'm not referring to any specific website here
10:32 chunky; i didn't know you ran that
10:32 schestowitz-TR2; so there's the scale to take into account
10:32 schestowitz-TR2; like DB queries to run
10:32 chunky; hugo can smash through that without issue, in fact a static site generator on that scale (imo) is better than a dynamic website
10:32 schestowitz-TR2; thw www is also dying
10:32 schestowitz-TR2; ok, strong words
10:32 schestowitz-TR2; not dying
10:32 schestowitz-TR2; perishing
10:32 schestowitz-TR2; hugo does not support gemini
10:33 schestowitz-TR2; and if you plug in gemini support, it might break in the future
10:33 chunky; i've used hugo to develop ecommerce sites w/ more than half a million product pages and it smashes through compilation w/ no problem
10:33 schestowitz-TR2; at the whims of some other devs
10:33 chunky; yeah that's the kind of stuff i've never really taken into consideration
10:34 schestowitz-TR2; we also added MQTT to the CMS
10:34 chunky; i've used a gemini browser once, for example
10:34 schestowitz-TR2; it's still young
10:34 chunky; just to read drewdevaults blog posts that were only available on that protocol
10:34 schestowitz-TR2; but more tools come
10:34 schestowitz-TR2; and "content"
10:34 chunky; if you're familar w/ him, idk
10:34 schestowitz-TR2; yeah
10:34 schestowitz-TR2; we linked to him this morning and yesterday
10:34 schestowitz-TR2; abdout kernel stuff written in hare
10:34 chunky; nice
10:35 chunky; i use a lot of his softare, he's a hero to me
10:37 chunky; schestowitz-TR2: is there a reason tuxmachines.org isn't using an ssl cert signed by a known root ca?
10:37 chunky; i'm getting MOZILLA_PKIX_ERROR_SELF_SIGNED_CERT
10:37 schestowitz-TR2; gemini.tuxmachines.org runs on his software
10:38 chunky; nice
10:38 schestowitz-TR2; the error you get says,
10:38 schestowitz-TR2; this site is not controlled by a cartel
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; it trusts itself
10:39 chunky; fair
10:39 chunky; guess that's why i asked
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; and the cartel cannot verify that roy is outsourcing control to the cartel
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; mozilla is rubbish
10:39 chunky; couldn't agree more
10:39 chunky; i still use firefox
10:39 chunky; i try to get away from it
10:39 chunky; qutebrowser is super promising
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; i have it installed
10:39 chunky; getting better all the time
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; qutebrowser shills Microsoft
10:40 schestowitz-TR2; at least in Debian 10
10:40 chunky; yeah?
10:40 schestowitz-TR2; it defaults to DDG
10:40 chunky; i bet The-Compiler would change that
10:40 chunky; i certainly doubt he is compensated for that
10:40 schestowitz-TR2; and makes it hard to change these defaults
10:40 chunky; it's not hard at all
10:40 chunky; it's just a setting in a config file
10:40 schestowitz-TR2; i tried
10:40 chunky; mine is changed to a searx instance, for example
10:40 schestowitz-TR2; it ignored that
10:40 chunky; it's not difficult
10:41 chunky; hopefully i don't get kicked for flooding, but
10:41 chunky; c.url.start_pages = 'https://paulgo.io'
10:41 chunky; c.url.default_page = 'https://paulgo.io'
10:41 chunky; c.url.searchengines = {
10:41 chunky; 'DEFAULT': 'https://paulgo.io/?q={}',
10:41 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-paulgo.io | PaulGO
10:41 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 308 @ https://paulgo.io/?q={} )
10:41 chunky; this in my config file fixes that completely
10:41 chunky; for qutebrowser
10:41 chunky; no problem
10:42 schestowitz-TR2; there are no kickbans for "floods"
10:43 schestowitz-TR2; the servers just throttles down after 4 fast lines
10:43 chunky; ah ok, gotcha
10:43 chunky; i run an irc server where we blast irc art @ each other all day
10:43 chunky; no flood protection at all
10:43 chunky; luv it :)
10:47 chunky; anyway qutebrowser is very good and i hope you wouldn't think that the author, The-Compiler is intentionally trying to harm its users
10:47 chunky; i bet the ddg default is only based on his own personal preference, and maybe he's not privvy to these privacy issues
10:49 schestowitz-TR2; if you know the dev, contact him/her
10:49 schestowitz-TR2; and tell them what DDG is
10:50 schestowitz-TR2; and how that puts off more and more potential users
10:50 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo
10:50 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | DuckDuckGo - Techrights
10:50 chunky; reading about ddg is how i came to find techrights website :)
10:50 chunky; that's why i'm on this irc server
10:51 chunky; for a long time i figured something wasn't right about it, and i'm pretty much always skeptical of services offering privacy/security as their main feature, so it was nice to see techrights drill down on some detail at some point
10:51 chunky; thx :)
10:51 chunky; i'll mention it to The-Compiler and see what he says about it
10:52 chunky; i normally don't worry about defaults like that in software because most tend to be garbage, but i have nothing to lose from mentioning it to him
10:53 schestowitz-TR2; the ddg controversy is not new
10:53 schestowitz-TR2; but those MFers have budget
10:53 schestowitz-TR2; and they gaslight people
10:53 schestowitz-TR2; and don't answer critics
10:53 chunky; yeah
10:53 chunky; the guy is a piece of shit
10:53 schestowitz-TR2; we got some whistleblowers
10:53 chunky; i saw him answer to a thread on ycombinator's hacker news and it was just steam
10:54 schestowitz-TR2; and have warned about DDG for over a decade
10:54 chunky; no real answer
10:54 schestowitz-TR2; all along calling it a Microsoft proxy
10:54 schestowitz-TR2; now it's more evident with the NDA and all
10:54 schestowitz-TR2; Gabe admits it
10:54 chunky; i've warned personal friends over the years about ddg being suspect without having any actual proof
10:54 chunky; people just said i'm overly cautious and the usual stuff
10:55 schestowitz-TR2; I hope they fall back to 0%
10:55 schestowitz-TR2; it was just bing with a mask
10:55 schestowitz-TR2; like the scooby doo meme
10:55 schestowitz-TR2; "let's see who you really are!"
10:55 chunky; they're pretty popular now
10:56 schestowitz-TR2; they have budget
10:56 schestowitz-TR2; and get hosting from Microsoft
10:56 chunky; people tricked into believing they're the good guys
10:56 schestowitz-TR2; among other things
10:56 schestowitz-TR2; haha, Microsoft trhe good guys
10:56 chunky; honestly technology seems hopeless sometimes
10:56 schestowitz-TR2; "oooh, Microsoft, save me from Gulag, PLEASE!"
10:56 chunky; computers and the internet really highlight some of the worst qualities in humans
10:56 chunky; pure greed
10:56 schestowitz-TR2; yeah
10:56 schestowitz-TR2; now the marketing people rename everything
10:56 schestowitz-TR2; devops
10:56 schestowitz-TR2; clown
10:56 schestowitz-TR2; meaning
10:56 schestowitz-TR2; sysadmin
10:57 schestowitz-TR2; server
10:57 chunky; yeah i've never really understood the term devops
10:57 chunky; and the more i look into it the less it makes sense
10:57 schestowitz-TR2; then "smart"... and hype waves like "web3" and "hey hi" (AI)
10:57 schestowitz-TR2; make you want to get off the train
10:57 chunky; my conclusion is basically that in order to understand it you have to buy into bullshit
10:57 schestowitz-TR2; some idiots at my workplace are like that
10:57 chunky; same w/ all the renamed tech stuff at the cloud service providers
10:57 schestowitz-TR2; dev ops = programmijngn
10:57 schestowitz-TR2; coder
10:57 schestowitz-TR2; development
10:57 schestowitz-TR2; now it's all "OOPS"
10:57 schestowitz-TR2; GitOOPS
10:57 chunky; amazon and google take pre-existing tech and give it some super weird name
10:58 schestowitz-TR2; ClownOOPS
10:58 chunky; l0l
10:58 chunky; p much
10:58 schestowitz-TR2; "HEYHIOOPS'
10:58 schestowitz-TR2; (aiops"
10:58 schestowitz-TR2; it'a a farce
10:58 schestowitz-TR2; it's not CS
10:58 schestowitz-TR2; it's shitty suits and m,arketing drecks like jim zemlin
10:58 schestowitz-TR2; ruining the industry
10:58 chunky; it's just deep vendor lock-in
10:58 schestowitz-TR2; which they rebraded as "AYE TEA" decades back
10:58 schestowitz-TR2; CS=science
10:58 chunky; at some point the people working on this stuff won't understand computers
10:58 schestowitz-TR2; "IT"=whatever
10:59 chunky; i wonder when the time will come that not a person alive will actually understand how computers work
10:59 schestowitz-TR2; right
10:59 chunky; but everyone will rely on them
10:59 schestowitz-TR2; but we need to reject the buzzwords
10:59 schestowitz-TR2; for starters
10:59 schestowitz-TR2; and use terminopoly that explains what happens
10:59 schestowitz-TR2; like "outsourcing"
10:59 schestowitz-TR2; Red Hat keeps saying "transformation"
10:59 chunky; lol
10:59 chunky; yeah
10:59 schestowitz-TR2; or "modernisation"
10:59 chunky; "serverless" nah dawg that's "outsourcing"
10:59 schestowitz-TR2; they mean complexity
11:00 chunky; serverless is one that really gets me, god is that ever stupid
11:00 schestowitz-TR2; like adding kubernetes to a business with one physical server
11:00 chunky; l0llll
11:00 schestowitz-TR2; so then they buy crap like openshit
11:00 schestowitz-TR2; and ask Red Hat, PLEASE WE NEEDE SUPPORT! FAST FAST!! DOWNTIMES.
11:00 chunky; it's just guys in suits at business meetings doing handshake deals w/o having a clue what they're talking about
11:00 chunky; that's how most of this stuff comes to be
11:00 schestowitz-TR2; openshift is Free software
11:00 schestowitz-TR2; but you can't find people who know how to use and fix it
11:01 chunky; some of it is engineered and downright evil though
11:01 schestowitz-TR2; not may people elarned ansible either
11:01 schestowitz-TR2; unless they get thewir expensive "red hat" cert
11:01 schestowitz-TR2; many use puppet
11:01 schestowitz-TR2; or even chef
11:01 schestowitz-TR2; then you have wordpress
11:01 chunky; i wouldn't know what the better option is for deployment automation
11:01 schestowitz-TR2; and what becomes of it
11:01 schestowitz-TR2; talking over yalk about it atm
11:02 chunky; i'd roll my own to know what's going on
11:02 schestowitz-TR2; chunky: nor would they
11:02 schestowitz-TR2; they just look at IBM brochures
11:02 schestowitz-TR2; and go with a bundle
11:02 chunky; yeah
11:02 schestowitz-TR2; ansible tower, openshift..
11:02 schestowitz-TR2; .and then look for clueless gards with got some "red hat"c ert
11:02 schestowitz-TR2; for memoprising stuff
11:02 schestowitz-TR2; *memorising
11:02 chunky; sad
11:02 schestowitz-TR2; and once they are off script
11:02 schestowitz-TR2; or need to actually writ ea program
11:03 schestowitz-TR2; they are stuck
11:03 schestowitz-TR2; it's not in "the exam"
11:03 chunky; GET BILL GATES IN HERE!
11:03 chunky; YOU TOLD US WINDOWS 98 WOULD BE FASTER AND MORE EFFICIENT!
11:03 schestowitz-TR2; so you pay red ahat $2000 per year per server
11:03 schestowitz-TR2; for many 2 open tickets per year
11:03 schestowitz-TR2; so you pay $1000 for erach "incident"
11:03 chunky; l0l
11:03 chunky; racket
11:03 schestowitz-TR2; which means they profit from issues in their software
11:04 schestowitz-TR2; some of these companies come to us
11:04 schestowitz-TR2; because they get rippd off
11:04 schestowitz-TR2; and we fix things for them more cheaply
11:06 schestowitz-TR2; red hat has an incentive to make gnu/linxu robust
11:06 schestowitz-TR2; but not the add-on
11:06 schestowitz-TR2; they want a good product
11:06 schestowitz-TR2; but they also want you to NEED them
11:06 schestowitz-TR2; like many businesses
11:06 schestowitz-TR2; even ours
11:06 schestowitz-TR2; you should see managers
11:07 schestowitz-TR2; trying not to give away some secret sauce
11:07 schestowitz-TR2; as then the client would fix the issues without us
11:07 schestowitz-TR2; that's managers
11:07 schestowitz-TR2; now, re wordpress
11:07 schestowitz-TR2; they profit as a hosting company
11:07 schestowitz-TR2; with ads
11:07 schestowitz-TR2; and other premium products
11:07 schestowitz-TR2; wordpress.org lets them rope in more potential users
11:07 schestowitz-TR2; they can later "upsell"
11:07 schestowitz-TR2; but to be fair they don't make wordpress.org more buggy
11:07 schestowitz-TR2; just more bloated
11:08 schestowitz-TR2; and thus potentially hard to set up and diagnose
11:08 Techrights-sec; ack
11:08 Techrights-sec; Two reasons for saying the above are that the maintenance is now highly
11:08 Techrights-sec; complex (and as you say fast moving) *and* that they require remote access
11:08 Techrights-sec; to your system *via FTP* for automated updates. Yes, it is possible to
11:08 Techrights-sec; do manual updates, you know the details on that. That is too much for
11:08 Techrights-sec; many people, even just counting the time requirement not including the skills
11:08 Techrights-sec; necessary. So without manual updates, the choice becomes between a highly
11:08 Techrights-sec; insecure system where the login credentials are, in effect, broadcast because
11:08 Techrights-sec; of FTP, or just let them handle the whole thing for a fee. I looked into
11:08 Techrights-sec; various CMS in detail a few months ago and came to that conclusion, hopefully
11:08 Techrights-sec; not too incorrectly.
11:10 chunky; yeah i think wordpress is an example of a good way to operate an open source company
11:10 chunky; they offer open source software and also offer to host it for you for a free
11:10 chunky; for a fee*
11:11 chunky; i don't take any issue w their business model, seems like the ideal way to do things
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; they used to use ftp
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; I've not myself installed newer versions except at work
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; and then didn't update then, just handed over the system
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; I have notes on the 'recipe' for manual update
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; I can give that to you
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; I assure you
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; that
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; a) many sec patches don't need backporting
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; b) v 3.9.x won't be affected by many new bugs
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; c) any backporting would be simple
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; d) someone out there will stll do it
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; e) the patches don't need downloading
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; f) edit file, change the lines based on the patch reference/object
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; like I did in drupal 6
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; so I reckon wordpress isn't hopeless
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; the problem is that I maintain and look after about a dozen wordpress sites
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; if the se patches are not super critivcal
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; e.g. xss (JS)
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; multi-user installs where some users are very untrustweoirtthy (wishing to n vandalise the bsystem)
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; ete etc.
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; nobody will bother with a patch until something major comes along
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; as happened years ago with drupal 6
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; susan contacted me about it after I had patched it
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; you could basically bypass the shim between one file/function and another
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; and pass some bad stuff to the function from a web browser
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; the fix was a simple input sanitisation
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; so I added it
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; at work I see all the latest drupal holes (eeven this morning I reported one to colleagues)
11:14 schestowitz-TR2; most affect just new versions. The bigger the s/w, the more holes are to be expectred.
11:15 Techrights-sec; As far as I know they used it as recently as the beginning of this year!
11:15 Techrights-sec; The recipe would be of interest, thanks
11:15 Techrights-sec; The business model is kind of ok, the excessive complexity is not. Nor is
11:15 Techrights-sec; the (former?) dependence on FTP and any form of obligatory remote access
11:15 Techrights-sec; as a precondition for updating.
11:16 chunky; i think the core wordpress updates now use the php curl library to download rather than ftp
11:19 schestowitz-TR2; I know the backstory very well
11:19 schestowitz-TR2; I was a student and deeply involved in the community back then
11:19 schestowitz-TR2; matt mullenweg and his buddy from cisco expressed oncerns that many did not update their wordpress installs
11:19 schestowitz-TR2; (to be fair, it was not simple and some tried to update without making proper backups first, or not knowing how to restore from backup)
11:19 schestowitz-TR2; by then, matt's friend had taken over from mike little (Stockporrrt, near here) and even locked him out
11:19 schestowitz-TR2; people blasted them for low-quality code
11:19 schestowitz-TR2; with holes
11:19 schestowitz-TR2; and then hosts were threatening wordpress would not be an option for quick automated installs
11:19 schestowitz-TR2; so they had to do something
11:19 schestowitz-TR2; first they threatened users
11:19 schestowitz-TR2; like "Upgrade, or else"
11:19 schestowitz-TR2; headline (from memory)
11:19 schestowitz-TR2; then this FTP thing
11:19 schestowitz-TR2; which I wrote about a decade ago
11:19 schestowitz-TR2; it's like a back door
11:19 schestowitz-TR2; with tracy's server it never worked
11:19 schestowitz-TR2; because access was 'two factor' (password PLUS keys, in two stages, via gateway)
11:19 schestowitz-TR2; I will give you my crude notes
11:20 chunky; imo wordpress still is low quality code
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; it was not made by coder
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; it was not made by coders
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; but a curious bunch that hacked on code
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; of b2
11:22 Techrights-sec; ack
11:23 chunky; that's the kind of stuff that tends to be more successful
11:23 chunky; people trying to fulfill a real-world goal instead of trying to be technically correct
11:23 chunky; that's what i see anyway
11:23 schestowitz-TR2; chunky: as noted earlier, the occupation is under attack
11:23 schestowitz-TR2; MBA
11:23 schestowitz-TR2; suits
11:23 schestowitz-TR2; patent lawyers
11:23 schestowitz-TR2; the security "experts" are biologists
11:23 schestowitz-TR2; like mgarrett
11:24 schestowitz-TR2; with no relevant training, just studying as one goes along
11:24 schestowitz-TR2; that's like me becoming a GP
11:24 schestowitz-TR2; by sitting at the office listening to sessions
11:24 chunky; hey can you check out this weird lump on my anus?
11:24 schestowitz-TR2; and learning this way
11:25 schestowitz-TR2; GPs do all sorts of unpleasant jobs
11:25 schestowitz-TR2; even the seemingly sexual stuff isn't nice
11:25 schestowitz-TR2; worse than platonic
11:25 schestowitz-TR2; like sticking singers up dold people
11:25 chunky; yes
11:25 schestowitz-TR2; even of the same gender
11:25 schestowitz-TR2; nothing "turn-on" about that
11:25 schestowitz-TR2; erven gynecologists
11:25 chunky; i've said and i'll say again that tricking people into thinking that being a doctor or a lawyer is a good job is mankind's greatest con
11:25 chunky; i worded that poorly, hopefully u know what i mean
11:25 schestowitz-TR2; I reckon the good -looking girls choose doctors who are old straight women
11:25 schestowitz-TR2; not some old men
11:29 *chunky puts on a wig and doctor outfit
11:49 schestowitz-TR2; aha
11:49 schestowitz-TR2; after kicking myself for 3 hours last nigth tryint to recall what I wanted to do
11:49 schestowitz-TR2; moments ago in the bathroom I recalled what it was I had planned to do
11:49 schestowitz-TR2; so it came back to me like 16 hours later
11:49 schestowitz-TR2; due to the same train of thought colliding with the same issue
11:49 schestowitz-TR2; but 16 hours is a long time
11:49 schestowitz-TR2; mystery solved at least
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12:08 Techrights-sec; ack
12:14 schestowitz-TR2; is it ok that financial affairs, unless very politicised (class vs tribalism), are ok for the main #techrights channel?
12:14 schestowitz-TR2; I think there's some overlap there with tech and usually it doesn't bring unwanted politics
12:14 schestowitz-TR2; unlike, say, immigration
12:14 schestowitz-TR2; climate is a science topic too, but probably better restricted to social
12:14 schestowitz-TR2; I'm asking because,
12:14 schestowitz-TR2; everywhere I look
12:14 schestowitz-TR2; anyone I speak to (even family)
12:14 schestowitz-TR2; financial woes are a big theme
12:14 schestowitz-TR2; and people try to make sense of it
12:14 schestowitz-TR2; seems they correctly blame "the rich" and not [that political party]
12:14 schestowitz-TR2; apropos, don't know what's happening in norway
12:14 schestowitz-TR2; my contacts there haven't been corresponding in a while
12:14 schestowitz-TR2; but in spite of natural resources they too would be impacted by high energy prices, esp. in winter
12:14 schestowitz-TR2; set aside immigration as a strain
12:14 schestowitz-TR2; when your country has that few citizens even 100,000 financial/economic immigrants, somw of whom flee famine/war, is a cumbersome obligation
12:14 schestowitz-TR2; and it was interesting to see norway's reaction to russia's aggression
12:14 schestowitz-TR2; invasion from the north is super easy, by land or by sea (or ice)
12:15 schestowitz-TR2; putin would love to get his hands on that energy pool
12:15 schestowitz-TR2; another spiggot by which toi punish europe (of course it causes the poor to suffer most, then he can try to incite them against other poor people,
12:15 schestowitz-TR2; based on racial profile)
12:43 schestowitz; no reporting from this sam this past week; then, hours ago: https://itwire.com/mobility/oppo-puts-two-more-reno-5g-models-on-sale-down-under.html
12:43 schestowitz; wasting his time on marketing puff
12:43 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-iTWire - Oppo puts two more Reno 5G models on sale Down Under
12:44 Techrights-sec; ack
12:44 Techrights-sec; ack
12:50 Techrights-sec; Norway is also in an awkward position. They could be supplying petrochemicals
12:50 Techrights-sec; to Europe but for some reason aren't very much. Not that it would be a good
12:50 Techrights-sec; thing in the long run for either the world or for Norway. IIRC Norway has been
12:50 Techrights-sec; trying to wean itself from petrochemical income and invest in sounder areas.
12:54 schestowitz-TR2; norway does not have the brain drain issue
12:54 schestowitz-TR2; they seem to retain smart people
12:54 schestowitz-TR2; the friends I had from there mostly came back to begen, oslo etc.
12:54 schestowitz-TR2; and are happy enough there
12:54 schestowitz-TR2; no need for Liz Trumps
12:54 schestowitz-TR2; but..
12:54 schestowitz-TR2; that edge can be lost over time, like in companies where you bring in Z types, X types...
12:54 schestowitz-TR2; the other night I opened the door around midnight
12:54 schestowitz-TR2; the next-door neighbours were having like a 'conference' of a dozen men in the back year
12:54 schestowitz-TR2; laughing off in some foreign language
12:54 schestowitz-TR2; our city is highly dependent on ultgra-tolerance of those who reject the culture
12:54 schestowitz-TR2; partly due to "investment" (like football)
12:55 schestowitz-TR2; Norway, unlike other countries, has invested in quality of life factors and
12:55 schestowitz-TR2; made an effort to ensure that the entire country is livable, not just the
12:55 schestowitz-TR2; tiny zone around the capital.
12:55 Techrights-sec; Norway, unlike other countries, has invested in quality of life factors and
12:55 Techrights-sec; made an effort to ensure that the entire country is livable, not just the
12:55 Techrights-sec; tiny zone around the capital.
12:55 Techrights-sec; ^capitol
12:55 schestowitz-TR2; ^capitol
12:57 Techrights-sec; s/are/were/
13:04 Techrights-sec; Brushing those problems under the carpet just makes it worse here and now.
13:04 Techrights-sec; Then as the problmes grow, they become just downright intolerable later.
13:04 Techrights-sec; However, that is next month or next quarter or even next year, i.e. never
13:07 schestowitz-TR2; the "saving face" approach is why many orgs in FS are undermined
13:07 schestowitz-TR2; while they shout and scream at Techrights, debian.community etc.
13:07 schestowitz-TR2; for saying what they would rather keep under the carpet or behind the veil
13:07 schestowitz-TR2; as you are aware, britain is a tax haven economy esp. near the southeast, so they cultivate that further with "tax cuts" and "foreign investment"
13:08 schestowitz-TR2; welcome, even if that prices residence out of reach for locals and ushers in a cultural problem
13:08 schestowitz-TR2; having said that, guess who gets blamed at the end
13:08 schestowitz-TR2; they don't frame that as an economic issue
13:08 schestowitz-TR2; and then blame "the liberals"
13:08 schestowitz-TR2; saying stuff that incites one clique of poor people against another
13:09 Techrights-sec; "This approach has not worked and has never worked before, so therefore
13:09 Techrights-sec; let us inflict more of it towards the goal it has never yet achieved and
13:09 Techrights-sec; appears to counteract."
13:32 Techrights-sec; ack
13:36 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> Later they wonder why people became more sceptical of the medical profession (like physicians who take a bribe to recommend some prescription) and even vaccines. People observe what low standards are now imposed/expected, like testing on some animals and then distributing to millions/billions of people in bulk. You're killing the profession. Like LF kills "Linux(TM)" (openwashing stamp).
13:37 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> "Critical thinkers and sceptics havent lost sight of the fact that British media now pushes for a new vaccine. Yeah, because the first one was so successful that this summer was the worst so far." https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/03/uk-statistics-about-58-of-the-population-opted-to-receive-a-booster-and-now-they-say-another-vaccine-is-needed/
13:37 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive UK Statistics: About 58% of the Population Opted to Receive a Booster (and Now They Say Another Vaccine is Needed)
13:37 Techrights-sec; ack
13:39 schestowitz-TR2; this evening we'll have the latest data fro thwe week
13:39 schestowitz-TR2; they pushed that back to thurs 4pm
13:39 schestowitz-TR2; was weds 4pm before
13:39 schestowitz-TR2; and the mortality reports were silently killed when there was a surge in deaths
13:39 schestowitz-TR2; how convenient
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13:39 schestowitz-TR2; I'm sure Liz Trump will be a "strong leaders"
13:39 schestowitz; https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/07/memory-shortcomings/
13:39 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Human Memorys Obnoxious Weakness
13:39 schestowitz-TR2; sorry, wrong url
13:40 schestowitz-TR2; " https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/06/truss-more-of-the-same/
13:40 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Our New Prime Minister: More of the Same
13:40 schestowitz-TR2; -
13:41 Techrights-sec; ack
13:48 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> Victory? EFF should call to ABOLISH Slack. But EFF is run by a bunch of slackers these days. 3 key people died. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/09/victory-slack-offers-retention-settings-free-workspaces | Source: EFF
13:48 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | VICTORY: Slack Offers Retention Settings to Free Workspaces | Electronic Frontier Foundation
13:48 schestowitz-TR2; EFF: Victory! We had a meeting with Donald Trump.
13:48 schestowitz-TR2; FSF: Victory: RMS was on Kremlin channel twice this year
13:51 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> EFF is still fighting. Seriously, it's fighting. Just not for EFF causes.
13:51 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> The E is today's EFF is estrogen
13:53 Techrights-sec; :/
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14:36 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> The issue isn't Linux itself; they're misplacing the blame, just like Microsoft wants them to (Microsoft does this too https://cisoseries.com/cyber-security-headlines-cisa-incident-reporting-linux-focused-iot-malware-albania-cuts-ties-over-cyberattack/
14:36 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-cisoseries.com | CISA incident reporting, Albania cuts ties over cyberattack
14:36 schestowitz-TR2; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- cisoseries.com | CISA incident reporting, Albania cuts ties over cyberattack
14:36 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> How about we start calling all Adobe and AutoCAD flaws "WINDOWS MALWARE?
14:36 schestowitz-TR2; It's not Linux that welcomes that malware; the malware gets there by other means and once installed it can do anything it wants. Not an OS issue. https://www.darkreading.com/vulnerabilities-threats/next-gen-linux-malware-takes-over-devices-unique-toolset
14:36 schestowitz-TR2; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.darkreading.com | Next-Gen Linux Malware Takes Over Devices With Unique Tool Set
14:36 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.darkreading.com | Next-Gen Linux Malware Takes Over Devices With Unique Tool Set
14:36 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> You can drive your car off a cliff. That doesn't mean the car is not safe.
17:09 schestowitz-TR2; rianne has returned
17:09 schestowitz-TR2; the results are not given on the spot
17:09 schestowitz-TR2; but she finished in 10 mins instead of 45
17:09 schestowitz-TR2; and thought she aced it
17:09 schestowitz-TR2; will need to wait
17:09 Techrights-sec; excellent
17:20 schestowitz-TR2; hmmm
17:20 schestowitz-TR2; interesting
17:20 schestowitz-TR2; they apparently just say pass or no pass
17:20 schestowitz-TR2; without telling you the score
17:21 schestowitz-TR2; she knew all the questions
17:21 schestowitz-TR2; and had practiced a lot
17:21 schestowitz-TR2; but I guess Home Office can see the actual score
17:21 schestowitz-TR2; which can help
17:21 schestowitz-TR2; weird that they don't tell the person taking the exam
17:21 Techrights-sec; oh well.
17:21 Techrights-sec; Was it a language test or a specific topic instead?
17:22 schestowitz-TR2; general knowledge
17:22 schestowitz-TR2; we'll ask the attorney tomorrow
17:22 schestowitz-TR2; he used to work for Home Officer
17:22 schestowitz-TR2; Office
17:22 schestowitz-TR2; if they can at l;east appreciate a perfect score
17:22 Techrights-sec; I hope they can and that it is to her advantage.
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17:41 schestowitz-TR2; anyway, she could finished in 8 mins
17:41 schestowitz-TR2; I told her to take her time
17:41 schestowitz-TR2; but no need beyond 10
17:41 schestowitz-TR2; she knew those questions
17:41 schestowitz-TR2; 45 mins is too much
17:41 schestowitz-TR2; I now they that for confidentiality reasons they don't send the full results over emaiul/www
17:41 schestowitz-TR2; just assure her it's ok, nothing further
17:41 schestowitz-TR2; she spent over a month preparing
17:47 Techrights-sec; That's good if they are cognizant of the shortcomings of standard e-mail,
17:47 Techrights-sec; not to mention M$ imitation of e-mail which routes through Washington state.
17:48 schestowitz-TR2; even if they say just pass/fail in unencrypted mail
17:48 schestowitz-TR2; along with some personal details
17:48 schestowitz-TR2; this is not good
17:48 schestowitz-TR2; the exact score is hardly the most sensitive bit of info
17:48 schestowitz-TR2; that they can leak to foreign countries
18:00 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> NHS Once Again Admits That the Number of Deaths It Gave Was Wrong (More People Had Died Than It Disclosed) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/08/number-of-deaths-wrong-lowballed/
18:00 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive NHS Once Again Admits That the Number of Deaths It Gave Was Wrong (More People Had Died Than It Disclosed)
18:00 Techrights-sec; Gates mentioned, but only in passing, https://text.npr.org/1121525125
18:00 Techrights-sec; certainly not the visit in jail
18:00 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-text.npr.org | Here's why conspiracy theories about Jeffrey Epstein keep flourishing
18:02 schestowitz-TR2; yes, BillPR is a total disgrace
18:02 schestowitz-TR2; they use the label to discredit some facts
18:02 schestowitz-TR2; by tying them to BS
18:02 schestowitz-TR2; I'd rather just boycott BillPR
18:02 schestowitz-TR2; it makes me sick
18:02 schestowitz-TR2; it keeps insulting people who point out facts
18:02 schestowitz-TR2; and even blocks some in twitter
18:02 schestowitz-TR2; for pointing out Gates pays them
18:03 Techrights-sec; Yes they are pushing strawman arguments on the topic.
18:03 Techrights-sec; Strangely they did not mention the conflict of interest regarding funding
18:03 Techrights-sec; there in the article. Not even a word.
18:04 schestowitz-TR2; it is outrageous
18:04 schestowitz-TR2; billbC did the exact same
18:05 schestowitz-TR2; painting bill as the victim
18:05 schestowitz-TR2; "people shout at me in the streets"
18:05 schestowitz-TR2; I guess hiding the bribes is now their fallback strategy
18:05 schestowitz-TR2; we should just boycott them and call them out on it
18:05 schestowitz-TR2; later you say gates and epstein in the same sentence
18:05 schestowitz-TR2; and people reclal this BS they saw in BillBL and BillPR
18:05 Techrights-sec;
18:05 Techrights-sec; Yep. That's a goal of theirs.
18:05 schestowitz-TR2; and then they then think you are insane
18:05 schestowitz-TR2; I think it's hardly a new strategy and some people older than me say the same about JFK
18:05 schestowitz-TR2; and some about 9/11
18:05 schestowitz-TR2; became too toxic to discuss
18:05 Techrights-sec; Yep. That's a goal of theirs. Saturate, diffuse, confuse.
18:08 schestowitz-TR2; l;ater people get cyncical about the media
18:08 schestowitz-TR2; and turn to even worse: social control media
18:08 schestowitz-TR2; maybe gates is hardly mentyioned for them to avoid having the burden of adding a disclosure of conflict
18:16 Techrights-sec; Ack
18:16 Techrights-sec; Already too many politicians, especially high-level ones, appear to have gotten
18:16 Techrights-sec; suckered by social control media to the point that it looks like it has been
18:16 Techrights-sec; influencing both their rhetoric and their policies. Chumps
18:16 Techrights-sec; That level of irresponsibility is harmful when coupled by they authority they
18:16 Techrights-sec; have been granted through elections or appointments.
18:16 Techrights-sec; It's essentially worse than lobbying, and that is bad enough being in practice
18:16 Techrights-sec; just bribery dressed up a little.
18:16 Techrights-sec; However rather than bribery, social control media is maniuplation and propaganda
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18:52 schestowitz-TR2; my note: record something on banned boosk, relate this to the www/net era, mention billpr along tghe way
18:53 schestowitz-TR2; rianne is now back to posting as usual
18:53 schestowitz-TR2; she is pretty certain she got 100%
18:53 schestowitz-TR2; we'll ask tomorrow
18:53 schestowitz-TR2; price of toiletries (toothpoaste, creams etc.) went up sharply
18:53 schestowitz-TR2; we'll try to 'cheat' this system by hopping between stores
18:55 Techrights-sec; And perhaps the ephemeral nature of the web.
18:55 Techrights-sec; "shrinkflation" is affecting those goods badly
18:58 schestowitz-TR2; yes, web rot is a think
18:58 schestowitz-TR2; TR, TM, and my site have a near perfect record of keeping ALL URLs alive, even almost 20 years down the line
18:58 schestowitz-TR2; I do this with a passion, sometimes adding redirections
18:58 schestowitz-TR2; you might even call it a compettiive advantage
18:58 schestowitz-TR2; but it's not a content
18:58 schestowitz-TR2; *contest
18:58 schestowitz-TR2; need to think of key points to cover
18:58 schestowitz-TR2; maybe after the next round of rss cleaning
18:58 schestowitz-TR2; by which point it'll be dark here anyway
19:03 schestowitz-TR2; ----
19:03 schestowitz-TR2; two bad news
19:03 schestowitz-TR2; 1) queen liz just died (yes, same time rianne did her exam)
19:03 schestowitz-TR2; 2) the aunt whose hunsband died months ago... got cancer (stage 1, but we hoped for less)
19:03 schestowitz-TR2; i might not record today
19:03 schestowitz-TR2; lots to digest
19:03 schestowitz-TR2; I'll prioritise auto-pilot on the sites
19:03 schestowitz-TR2; bbl
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19:45 Techrights-sec; otr: I can see 2) being of concern, but how does 1) affect anything, sorry
19:45 Techrights-sec; otr: for the callousness regarding 1) there
19:51 schestowitz-TR2; it is complicated
19:51 schestowitz-TR2; what it means to me is not what it means to millions of others
19:51 schestowitz-TR2; many of whom cry now
19:51 schestowitz-TR2; disparity in compassion
19:51 schestowitz-TR2; but i have many other things in my mind atm, so took a break
19:51 schestowitz-TR2; I will post link with robot-like mind
19:51 schestowitz-TR2; and do posts later
19:51 schestowitz-TR2; need to calibrate a little
19:51 schestowitz-TR2; rianne is writing something about it atm
19:51 schestowitz-TR2; remember she studied this stuff all day long for a long time
19:55 schestowitz-TR2; ---
19:55 schestowitz-TR2; rianne heard of the term shinkflation before
19:55 schestowitz-TR2; she even used it
19:55 schestowitz-TR2; to me it is new as I read different kinds of media
19:55 schestowitz-TR2; we're discussing how to bypass that, like which shops sell what and where
19:55 schestowitz-TR2; there are usually 'backchannels' if you are clever and then repetitive about it
19:55 schestowitz-TR2; and buy in bulk
19:55 schestowitz-TR2; we also need to find where to buy suppliss for the fish on the cheap
19:55 schestowitz-TR2; prices soared on basic products where we used to get 'generic' products
19:55 schestowitz-TR2; i think the "petm industry" makes a killing atm as people prioritise that sort of stuff
19:59 Techrights-sec; ack
20:00 schestowitz-TR2; re earlier issue, you could a dopt a "i don't give a f*" attitude regarding what other people think
20:00 schestowitz-TR2; and then end up targeted as enemy #1 of vbrigades online
20:00 schestowitz-TR2; or you could just focus on other things
20:01 Techrights-sec; There is a rumor that RMS has been working on GNU C Language Introduction & Reference Manual. Any way to confirm or debunk that?
20:02 schestowitz-TR2; I put that in TM
20:02 schestowitz-TR2; he announced that in the mailing list
20:02 schestowitz-TR2; but did not say who had comosed this document
20:03 schestowitz-TR2; baib, too many thinbgs in my mind (esp. aunt)
20:03 schestowitz-TR2; i put that down in writing to better manage the mental storm
20:03 schestowitz-TR2; will poost new like a robot to get by
20:03 schestowitz-TR2; little emotion
20:04 Techrights-sec; Nothing at Stallman.org
20:07 schestowitz-TR2; maybe social control media conflates announcing with working on
20:07 schestowitz-TR2; that's why I ignore that
20:07 schestowitz-TR2; I can find you the mailing list archive (xhtml) url again
20:07 schestowitz-TR2; but I don't suppose you need it
20:07 schestowitz-TR2; I'd better get back to a posting rhythm now
20:07 schestowitz-TR2; better than staring at the wall overthinking and speculating
20:07 schestowitz-TR2; which I'd rather avoid
20:07 schestowitz-TR2; keeping my mind busy with new info makes me happier
20:07 schestowitz-TR2; as long as it's not optimised for "engagement"
20:09 schestowitz-TR2; ---
20:09 schestowitz-TR2; cancer treatment is a long process
20:09 schestowitz-TR2; and no "closure" for very many months
20:09 schestowitz-TR2; you never know if it's "over"
20:09 schestowitz-TR2; so expect more travel and visits
20:09 schestowitz-TR2; and tears
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23:31 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> Number of UK Tests for COVID-19 Plunge (But Cases Rise!) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/08/testing-down-sharply/
23:31 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Number of UK Tests for COVID-19 Plunge (But Cases Rise!)
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