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07:37 Techrights-sec; httpd on TM locked up, restarted the service
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09:28 schestowitz-TR; gm, overslept a lot by accident
09:28 schestowitz-TR; is irc post on the way?
09:28 schestowitz-TR; I'm still catching up with many links
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10:27 Techrights-sec; a while back kaniini mentioned "soon"
10:27 Techrights-sec; Is he still ok?
10:28 schestowitz-TR; somewhere in canada now, like a nomad
10:34 Techrights-sec; ok
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11:04 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Nordic Ideal https://www.thenation.com/article/world/finland-sweden-nato/ | Source: The Nation
11:04 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thenation.com | The End of the Nordic Ideal | The Nation
11:07 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "The Los Angeles Sheriffs Department has long contended it has no gang problem." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/07/sheriff-who-claimed-he-would-clean-up-the-los-angeles-sheriffs-department-gang-problem-has-instead-allowed-it-to-thrive/ | Source: Techdirt
11:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Sheriff Who Claimed He Would Clean Up The Los Angeles Sheriffs Department Gang Problem Has Instead Allowed It To Thrive | Techdirt
11:07 schestowitz-TR; I think "chaos theory" is sometimes used in a non-technical context too
11:16 Techrights-sec; ack
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11:17 schestowitz-TR; not exactly on-topic, I know, but over the years I've heard that a society happy and contented enough
11:17 schestowitz-TR; would be be so passive and still look to improve
11:17 schestowitz-TR; if you worsen things, they tackle the worst aspects first
11:17 schestowitz-TR; so things like "royal" family are not the top priority
11:18 Techrights-sec; perhaps, that's a common theme in some science fictio genres
11:19 schestowitz-TR; a motif is, what are they looking to distract from?
11:19 schestowitz-TR; using selective outrage?
11:19 schestowitz-TR; then you focus not on what they tell you but on what you insist is more importanyt
11:19 schestowitz-TR; not Apple vs Microsoft
11:19 schestowitz-TR; but Freedom versus DRM, back doors etc.
11:20 Techrights-sec; not just distract from with small distractions but creation of
11:20 Techrights-sec; large intractable crises to prevent addressing class and power
11:20 schestowitz-TR; those can be connected
11:21 schestowitz-TR; so you connect them
11:21 schestowitz-TR; and attribute the crises to those with incentive to create them
11:22 Techrights-sec; yes and the crises are increasingly international in nature
11:25 schestowitz-TR; the media lost interest in "war on terror"
11:25 schestowitz-TR; from what I can gather, the bloodbaths continue
11:25 schestowitz-TR; when russia invaded georgia,iirc not long after gw had invaded iraq, the outrage was minimal
11:25 schestowitz-TR; prior to war on terror there was "cold war"
11:25 schestowitz-TR; then ussr became "not so risky"
11:28 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "As ordinary workers across the United States watched inflation eat away at modest wage gains in 2021" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/07/report-warns-taxpayer-money-fueling-pandemic-greed-grab-us-ceos | Source: Common Dreams
11:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Report Warns Taxpayer Money Is Fueling 'Pandemic Greed Grab' by US CEOs
11:28 Techrights-sec; ack
11:31 schestowitz-TR; makes it a tad harder to rebel against the status quo ("the system")
11:31 schestowitz-TR; but one can manage
11:31 schestowitz-TR; btw, got some compliments on our journalism this morning
11:32 schestowitz-TR; soon 34,000 blog posts
11:32 schestowitz-TR; tuxmachines 18 this friday
11:32 schestowitz-TR; tomorrow a meeting that likely decided, tentatively, what happens next
11:32 schestowitz-TR; working 2 nights in a row, than 5 days off, would be a massive improvement
11:32 schestowitz-TR; we've managed to skirt most price increases using "life hacks"
11:32 schestowitz-TR; riannr might start growing mushrooms soon, or try to... apparently leftover coffee is good for that so she has been collecting
11:32 schestowitz-TR; it
11:33 Techrights-sec; various grains are better, there are kits to work from but also an enormous
11:33 Techrights-sec; wealth of informtion about how to culture and grow various species. If you have
11:33 Techrights-sec; space, you can probably do it. I recall reading about it at the time when
11:33 Techrights-sec; people figured out how to farm shiitake
11:33 schestowitz-TR; as prices increase, incentive to at least try that will grow
11:39 Techrights-sec; It might be an interesting hobby
11:39 Techrights-sec; The trick is being OCD about keeping all parts of the process sterile
11:40 schestowitz-TR; rianne learns this from youtube channels these days
11:40 schestowitz-TR; (while youtube lasts...)
11:40 Techrights-sec; :/ not necessarily an authoritative source, it would depend very highly on
11:40 Techrights-sec; who is actually posting and what their background is
11:46 schestowitz-TR; change of topic:
11:46 schestowitz-TR; I still check almost every day if raspios (d11) has updares for linux-image or raspberrypi-kernel
11:46 schestowitz-TR; because I choose to assume something went wrong with the last one, which should be 5.15.x
11:46 schestowitz-TR; and so it falls back onto 5.10.x
11:46 schestowitz-TR; which is not fully compatible with some of the other "latest" packages
11:46 schestowitz-TR; that's an untested theory
11:46 schestowitz-TR; but I did see kernel-related warnings when last booting with a "head" attached
11:46 schestowitz-TR; and moreover the USB clone works OK
11:46 schestowitz-TR; I've made backups, but to other machines and drive, not the full clonbe
11:46 schestowitz-TR; because I don't consider anything outside /home to be in a fine state ATM
11:46 schestowitz-TR; in the future I will be even more hesitant to run full system updates
11:46 Techrights-sec; ack
11:46 Techrights-sec; it's very rare that the ydo
11:53 schestowitz-TR; I do not have a spare machine to test updates on
11:53 schestowitz-TR; and at the moment rianne's pi is a dedicated work machine or vpn workhorse
11:53 schestowitz-TR; don't want to tinker with it
11:53 schestowitz-TR; it makes life easier
11:53 schestowitz-TR; bear in mind the lack of consolidation means that during third we have THREE phones
11:53 schestowitz-TR; landline, ip phone, gulag...
11:53 schestowitz-TR; that's "progress" for you
11:53 schestowitz-TR; when you put idiots in decision-making positions
11:53 schestowitz-TR; I have not checked price and availability of raspi4, but will do so briefly now
11:53 schestowitz-TR; curious due to "supply" issues
11:53 schestowitz-TR; (my dad thinking china is staging or faking it... to cause issue...
11:53 schestowitz-TR; I asked for evidence... he cannot provide any)
11:55 schestowitz; https://shop.pimoroni.com/collections/raspberry-pi
11:55 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-shop.pimoroni.com | Raspberry Pi Boards, Kits, HATs, and Accessories - Next Day Delivery - Pimoroni
11:55 schestowitz; notice the prices
11:55 schestowitz; I think they use bundles to conceal the changes
11:55 Techrights-sec; ack
11:57 schestowitz-TR; the way I am reading this (some have 1GB of RAM), the prices may or may not have doubled
11:57 schestowitz-TR; iot's a good thing we stocked up on needed hardware and spare before this BS period
11:57 schestowitz-TR; where you want a simple set of speakers and they offer you one speaker for like 100 pounds
12:00 Techrights-sec; ack
12:00 Techrights-sec; pretty much everything containing an actuall RPi is out of stock, just like
12:00 Techrights-sec; everywhere else
12:00 Techrights-sec; Ukraine products 70% of the world's neon and that is currently essential for
12:00 Techrights-sec; the manufacture of chips
12:02 Techrights-sec; :/
12:04 schestowitz-TR; iirc, it was you who passed the link this morning about improvising the manufacturing
12:04 schestowitz-TR; I LOLed at the part about them shipping product with chips missing, promising to add them later
12:04 schestowitz-TR; I mean, WTF??? How would that actually work? They send someone to your home to "upgrade" with a screwdriver?
12:04 schestowitz-TR; I joked about this with rianne
12:04 schestowitz-TR; I actually find the whole think amusing rather than sadening
12:04 schestowitz-TR; but maybe because atm it feels like misfrotune of others
12:04 schestowitz-TR; esp. people who buy "smart" cars
12:04 schestowitz-TR; in reality, rich people will find a way around the shortages
12:04 schestowitz-TR; and be a "priority clientele"
12:04 schestowitz-TR; while prices soar, hurting not them but others
12:06 Techrights-sec; the global supply chain has been maneuvered into a position where there
12:06 Techrights-sec; are multiple single-point-of-failure junctions and now that several are failing
12:06 Techrights-sec; it brings down all computer hardware manufacturing
12:06 Techrights-sec; it was just a matter of time given the direction things had been heading
12:08 schestowitz-TR; I still need more time to wrap my head around what that means
12:08 schestowitz-TR; inc. second-hand/"preowned" markets
12:08 schestowitz-TR; from an environmental POV, this has potential for good
12:08 schestowitz-TR; we've long hoped air travel would RETURN to being an expensive
12:08 schestowitz-TR; luxury
12:08 schestowitz-TR; which is really what it ALL ALONG should have been
12:08 schestowitz-TR; no more treturn flights for some weekend conference of beach trip
12:08 schestowitz-TR; we need a rebellion against work communting, too
12:10 schestowitz-TR; iirc, rianne purchased the pi just before the ukraine war and chinese lockdowns
12:10 schestowitz-TR; it did not cost much more than the prior price
12:10 schestowitz-TR; and the stocks were replenished just days after she had left her email
12:15 schestowitz-TR; as I expected, activelow seems to have just returned, but with a new nickname
12:15 schestowitz-TR; after causing a channel to go bad by de-registering
12:15 schestowitz-TR; like matey, he does not wish to be seen as a returnee
12:15 schestowitz-TR; brandon lozza recently came back too, after many years
12:15 schestowitz-TR; people come and go, but as long as they're alive and we too are online they
12:15 schestowitz-TR; can return at any moment
12:15 schestowitz-TR; many people from usenet also suddenly appeaer
12:16 Techrights-sec; that kind of stability is an asset
12:17 schestowitz-TR; i think olf it as reward for consistency
12:18 Techrights-sec; yes
13:16 schestowitz-TR; activelow has just ragequit again
13:16 schestowitz-TR; for us not being as radical
13:16 schestowitz-TR; I worry he's getting more extreme over time
13:16 schestowitz-TR; and it's hard to get him out of it
13:16 schestowitz-TR; isolated and misinformed
13:16 schestowitz-TR; I know his real name, I saw it in his code
13:41 schestowitz-TR; days ago conde nast, after 5+ yearsd, did a "report" on vault7 leaker
13:41 schestowitz-TR; it was ad hominem
13:41 schestowitz-TR; schneier linked to it
13:41 schestowitz-TR; which does not imply it is good
13:41 schestowitz-TR; he linked to a lot of conde nast rubbish these days
13:41 Techrights-sec; ok but I have no backround in deradicalization and can only suggest to stand
13:41 Techrights-sec; firm against such bullshit; a problem is that such behavior is often used
13:41 Techrights-sec; as an excuse to shoehorn CoCs and cenorship
13:41 Techrights-sec; Schneier seemed to retire in most ways shortly after he processed the Snowden
13:41 Techrights-sec; documents.
13:44 schestowitz-TR; wait
13:44 schestowitz-TR; did bruce "process" these documents?
13:44 schestowitz-TR; I watch that closely at the time
13:44 schestowitz-TR; Schnier may have linked to articles
13:44 schestowitz-TR; in schneier.org
13:44 schestowitz-TR; but I did not see him directly involv ed
13:44 schestowitz-TR; ioerror was def. involved
13:44 schestowitz-TR; mflee
13:44 schestowitz-TR; greenwalf
13:44 schestowitz-TR; before omidyar bought greenwald and his associates
13:44 schestowitz-TR; then shut them all down
13:44 schestowitz-TR; based on some contractual basis
13:44 schestowitz-TR; as I understand it
13:44 schestowitz-TR; they wrote in protest
13:44 schestowitz-TR; and that was the end of that
13:44 schestowitz-TR; they vanished along with the material
13:44 Techrights-sec; IIRC
13:44 Techrights-sec; IIRC he had copies
13:44 Techrights-sec; after the big news
13:44 Techrights-sec; omidyar bought him to get the papers and 1) put them on ice and 2) act as a
13:44 Techrights-sec; honeypot for other whistleblowers
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13:47 schestowitz-TR; Ok, yes, this makes sense
13:47 schestowitz-TR; and notice how few WBers come out now with material
13:47 schestowitz-TR; the other day I think one of the drone strikes WBers was in IRC
13:47 schestowitz-TR; but I am not sure
13:47 schestowitz-TR; they confided in me
13:47 schestowitz-TR; but there is nothing to write about the subject anymore
13:47 schestowitz-TR; because the media stopped particpating
13:47 schestowitz-TR; as if the drones just stopped existing or turned into kites
13:51 Techrights-sec; ack
13:51 schestowitz-TR; it is particularly upsetting to me
13:51 schestowitz-TR; in 2012ish-1015 I wrote heavily about drone strikes
13:51 schestowitz-TR; it's still in Daily Links
13:51 schestowitz-TR; other topics of focus in 2011 onwards were NSA mass surveillance
13:51 schestowitz-TR; prior to snoweden
13:51 schestowitz-TR; wikileaks was intreumental there
13:51 schestowitz-TR; for a number of reasons
13:51 schestowitz-TR; in 2015 I decided to stop, I probably still have that piece of paper
13:51 schestowitz-TR; I discussed with rianne about how to shift focus
13:51 schestowitz-TR; the drone strikes thing reached an impasse
13:51 schestowitz-TR; as had happened to debates about sw patents
13:51 schestowitz-TR; apropos, crystalmath said in irc we don't write much about freesw
13:51 schestowitz-TR; and I showed him fsf had also stopped
13:52 schestowitz-TR; and he agrees
13:52 schestowitz-TR; freesw as a topic is being cast aside
13:52 schestowitz-TR; now it's "hey hi" and "web3" and "somethingverse" and all soerts of totally
13:52 schestowitz-TR; ludicrous stuff
13:52 Techrights-sec; yes I recall
13:52 Techrights-sec; if anyone is supposed to talk up Software Freedom it should be the FSF
13:52 Techrights-sec; I've also noticed their neglect of responsiblity there
13:53 schestowitz-TR; when LF could move in for the kill against Windows (desktop/laptop) it instead sold out
13:53 schestowitz-TR; same thing happened to Novell
13:53 schestowitz-TR; one week before the Microsoft deal they got a major OEM to BUNDLE PC with SLED 10
13:53 schestowitz-TR; I linked to that in irc a few days ago
13:54 Techrights-sec; yes they were close; same for Canonical, there were over a half dozen golden
13:54 Techrights-sec; opportunities to make big sales or at least promote the heck out of their
13:54 Techrights-sec; products and services but they let it drop *each* and every time
13:54 Techrights-sec; I attributed that to the moles from M$ which Canonical knowingly brought in
13:58 Techrights-sec; It has been acting like an anti-Linux Foundation for a long while now
13:58 Techrights-sec; and appears to have been infiltrated and fully subverted
13:58 Techrights-sec; I don't suppose they still have a charter online for comparison between their
13:58 Techrights-sec; stated goals and their current misdeeds?
13:59 schestowitz-TR; I actually covered this numerous times
13:59 schestowitz-TR; e.g. comparing their mention of "community" in the site over the years, using the wayback machine
13:59 schestowitz-TR; more recently I did another kind of comparison
13:59 schestowitz-TR; do yolu wwant the url/s?
14:01 schestowitz-TR; it would not take long to retreieve, hang on...
14:01 schestowitz-TR; btw, I sense that when such orgs turn on the "politics mode" it's a defence staretgy
14:01 schestowitz-TR; the PR "consultants" tell them it can associate legit critics with "bigots"
14:01 schestowitz-TR; "I am SOOOO tol;erant, WHY are you attacking me? [sob]"
14:01 Techrights-sec; ok
14:02 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2019/08/03/no-more-community-in-lf/
14:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | How the Linux Foundation Devolved From Community-Centric to Microsoft (in GitHub) Projects | Techrights
14:03 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/lf-openwashing-services/
14:03 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Linux Foundation: From Linux to Openwashing Services | Techrights
14:11 Techrights-sec; https://www.linuxfoundation.org/bylaws/
14:11 Techrights-sec; changed back in 2016 or so
14:11 Techrights-sec; https://www.information-age.com/linux-foundation-causes-uproar-quietly-removing-community-representation-its-board-123460821/
14:11 Techrights-sec; interesting possibility
14:11 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linuxfoundation.org | Bylaws - Linux Foundation
14:11 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.information-age.com | Linux Foundation causes uproar by quietly removing community representation from its board - Information Age
14:12 schestowitz-TR; how much time apart from Microsoft sellout?
14:12 schestowitz-TR; Maybe there was a request associated with that move
14:12 schestowitz-TR; and it was fulfilled?
14:12 schestowitz-TR; around that time OSI was also getting like 90%+ corporate funded
14:12 schestowitz-TR; now it is like 97%, based on 2020 filing, probably higher by now
14:12 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2022/05/09/microsoft-takes-control-lf/
14:12 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Evolution at Linux Foundation: Microsoft Attacks, Microsoft Joins, Microsoft Takes Control | Techrights
14:12 schestowitz; see the image
14:12 schestowitz; pay close attention
14:15 Techrights-sec; yes
14:17 Techrights-sec; I see. (normally I ignore the images)
14:17 Techrights-sec; The M$ mole also is allowed to shill there too
14:17 Techrights-sec; that's kind of old and hard to find but there was a lot of talk about
14:17 Techrights-sec; the removal of the community seats as a move to preemptively block Sandler
14:17 Techrights-sec; and other pro-GPL people from even having a chance at winning a seat.
14:17 schestowitz-TR; can you research for any concrete links between the microsoft "loves" Linnux (Foundation) move
14:17 schestowitz-TR; and the removal of ksandler among other moved?
14:17 schestowitz-TR; *moves
14:17 schestowitz-TR; sheela zemlin's employment history does not coincide with that year in particular (I have checked already; years ago)
14:17 schestowitz-TR; spouses are not off-limit, ask Tim Bray
14:19 Techrights-sec; Tim Bray has been toeing the line in recent years though, it seems his
14:19 Techrights-sec; memory is not long in that regard or that they finally did find a way to
14:19 Techrights-sec; get to him
14:19 Techrights-sec; It'd probably take 30 minutes of searching to find his old blog post about
14:19 Techrights-sec; how M$ went after first him and then his wife's company
14:19 schestowitz-TR; I can get that in 20 seconds or less
14:19 schestowitz-TR; "life is complicated" was the title and we have a wiki page for that attack pattern
14:24 Techrights-sec; I just tried and even a fairly narrow search turned up nothing not even
14:24 Techrights-sec; his blog
14:24 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_Retribution_against_individuals_and_organisations
14:24 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft Retribution against individuals and organisations - Techrights
14:24 schestowitz; http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2007/01/24/Mixup
14:24 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Missing content type. Ignoring.
14:28 Techrights-sec; ack
14:34 schestowitz-TR; it would be INVALUABLE if we could prove
14:34 schestowitz-TR; that there ere further strings attacked to MS-LF
14:34 schestowitz-TR; or... if someone sent us a tip
14:34 schestowitz-TR; like we got many re shithub
14:34 schestowitz-TR; one single source can do infinite damage
14:34 schestowitz-TR; like ed snowden
14:34 schestowitz-TR; before omidyar shat on his "stash"
14:34 schestowitz-TR; (snowden did not keep copies himself, it was not safe)
14:34 schestowitz-TR; he even handed over his own laptop
14:34 Techrights-sec; no it was not safe for him to keep anything
14:34 Techrights-sec; probably quite a bit
14:34 schestowitz-TR; we do not knowhow much data was on Assange's laptop and other electronic devices
14:34 schestowitz-TR; when those were seized b surposed and handed over to the US
14:34 schestowitz-TR; probably lots of stuff in there
14:34 schestowitz-TR; pro tip: if they take away your shaving kit, act fast :/
14:34 schestowitz-TR; they might be preparing you for "the role"
14:35 schestowitz-TR; typecasting
14:36 Techrights-sec; yep
14:36 Techrights-sec; and they intentionally roughed him up on the way out so that he'd struggle and
14:36 Techrights-sec; protest
14:36 Techrights-sec; visibly for the waiting cameras
14:36 Techrights-sec; perhaps not dissimilar to the military-like raid on Kim Dotcom and the camera
14:36 Techrights-sec; crews which were given a headsup
14:38 schestowitz-TR; Kim (on record): "hey had a knee to my neck" (or chin)
14:38 schestowitz-TR; *they
14:38 schestowitz-TR; life-threatening position
14:38 schestowitz-TR; that was before Chauvin
14:41 schestowitz; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KmIPVrkN1hA
14:41 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Kim Dotcom Police Raid Video Released - Invidious
14:42 schestowitz-TR; a good strategy is not just to record before entry
14:42 schestowitz-TR; but have a femalke as alibo/eyewitness
14:42 schestowitz-TR; they get a bad "press" for roughening up women
14:42 schestowitz-TR; and so they are less likely to do some things
14:42 schestowitz-TR; but more importantly, you need evidence that you were obedient and polite
14:42 schestowitz-TR; when it is therir word against yours
14:43 schestowitz-TR; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KmIPVrkN1hA
14:43 schestowitz-TR; towards the end of the video Kim explained what FBI did simultaneously
14:43 schestowitz-TR; in the background
14:43 schestowitz-TR; It would take longer to get the parts about them physically assaulting him
14:43 schestowitz-TR; afaik, there was either no footage or only the state shields footage of that
14:43 schestowitz-TR; that was an "OTR" thing
14:44 Techrights-sec; * or chins :/
14:44 Techrights-sec; ack
14:47 Techrights-sec; raids like that are not about solving a problem but about show of force and
14:47 Techrights-sec; having a large chance that some fatal "mistake" might happen with the handling
14:47 Techrights-sec; of the victim / target
14:47 schestowitz; last 5 seconds of https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mmObwguVmEI
14:47 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Kim Dotcom - The RAID - Invidious
14:48 Techrights-sec; and as mentioned he has not done anything different AFAIK from the other
14:48 Techrights-sec; "cloud" services
14:54 Techrights-sec; the gate was unlocked yet they jumped over it
14:54 Techrights-sec; if only they could raid microsofters that way and be rid of the cybersecurity
14:54 Techrights-sec; disaster in a mattetr of hours
14:56 schestowitz-TR; you and I know how "the system" works and why
14:56 schestowitz-TR; I try my best to not challenge the limits too much
14:56 schestowitz-TR; so I can carry on another 20 years
14:56 schestowitz-TR; 'doping' = credibility loss for short-term boost
14:56 Techrights-sec; yep
14:56 schestowitz-TR; or doing questionable things that can get you in trouble with some laws
14:56 schestowitz-TR; people will try to do both regardless
14:56 schestowitz-TR; SLAPP
14:56 schestowitz-TR; ad hominem
14:56 schestowitz-TR; but that does not mean you should make it easier for them
14:58 schestowitz-TR; roughening people up, with physical force or words (provocation, threats)
14:58 schestowitz-TR; is one way to lower their rational instincts
14:58 schestowitz-TR; and invoke inpulsive actions
14:58 schestowitz-TR; I can think of several people this was done to
14:58 schestowitz-TR; and helped discredit them
14:58 schestowitz-TR; the ad hominem conde nast piece that bruce schneier linked to I did not need to read past the summary
14:58 schestowitz-TR; the summar made it clear it was a distraction and typical motivation questioning
14:59 Techrights-sec; ack
14:59 schestowitz-TR; I used to treat Bruce with respect
14:59 schestowitz-TR; now it's scepticism
14:59 schestowitz-TR; if noit "ol' fart" cycnicism
14:59 schestowitz-TR; same as for SJVN
15:00 Techrights-sec; Bruce deflated rather suddenly but had so much respect from the community that
15:00 Techrights-sec; it took a long time for people to accept that he is gone in practice
15:01 schestowitz-TR; maybe some time soon he'll get "bored" and pull a "guido de icaza"
15:01 Techrights-sec; I'm still wondering what they did to Durusau over ODF and open standards
15:01 schestowitz-TR; he is in twitter
15:03 schestowitz; https://yewtu.be/channel/UCXj2fUcGQk4xbjp8qRudQyA
15:03 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Patrick Durusau - Invidious
15:03 schestowitz-TR; here too, recent
15:04 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2019/06/22/durusau-and-coekaerts/
15:04 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft Apparently Did a Patrick Durusau on Wim Coekaerts to Broaden Its Control Over GNU/Linux | Techrights
15:09 Techrights-sec; ack
15:20 schestowitz-TR; microsoft is the worst
15:20 schestowitz-TR; but I saw other companies, to a lesser degree, doing the same to CS labs
15:20 schestowitz-TR; Gulag, Intel..
15:20 schestowitz-TR; their goal is not to advance teaching or research
15:20 schestowitz-TR; their money is not a "support"
15:20 schestowitz-TR; sorry, it is
15:20 schestowitz-TR; but not for the schools but to themselves
15:20 schestowitz-TR; this is an issue politicians won't tackle
15:20 schestowitz-TR; because like those schools they're owned by corporatism
15:20 schestowitz-TR; and they too get "donations"
15:20 schestowitz-TR; like Microbell Larabel
15:20 schestowitz-TR; they are "slaves"
15:20 schestowitz-TR; of the "masters"
15:20 schestowitz-TR; which play political PR games
15:20 schestowitz-TR; and say those words are obscene
15:20 schestowitz-TR; as they might cause an emotional reaction
15:20 schestowitz-TR; apropos, see the latest post from norbert prenning
15:20 schestowitz-TR; I saw tghat video uyears ago
15:20 schestowitz-TR; interesting he would bring it up now all of a sudden
15:20 schestowitz-TR; I know he has spoken to daniel p lately
15:20 Techrights-sec; ack
15:20 Techrights-sec; rough video, but not far off
15:21 schestowitz-TR; maybe the video is a bit ahead of its time
15:21 schestowitz-TR; it was very popular a couple of years ago
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15:29 schestowitz-TR; I was about to create symlinks for ~gemini so that the Daily IRC Logs do not have a broken URI/L in "Local copy" and "Enter the
15:29 schestowitz-TR; IRC channels now"
15:29 schestowitz-TR; but the former, not the latter, is a tricker one
15:29 schestowitz-TR; *trickier
15:29 schestowitz-TR; and I reckon cobbling together something in perl for this particular post "type" would be simpler
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15:34 Techrights-sec; probably easier in perl
15:36 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "The word chaos is understood as meaning disorder and confusion, and when it flourishes, it becomes increasingly difficult" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/07/chaos-or-community-2/ | Source: Counter Punch
15:36 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Chaos or Community - CounterPunch.org
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15:39 schestowitz-TR; just chedked what a fraud scamnil became
15:39 schestowitz-TR; but unwilling to do any more screenshots, as it would give him more limelight than he deserves
15:39 schestowitz-TR; but he's scamming companies
15:39 schestowitz-TR; they deserve to know
15:39 schestowitz-TR; LF is complicity in it
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15:46 Techrights-sec; checking
15:46 Techrights-sec; currently the following is generated:
15:46 Techrights-sec; => /irc-channel/ Enter the IRC channels now
15:46 Techrights-sec; what should be there instead?
15:46 schestowitz-TR; I think /about
15:47 schestowitz-TR; where it has details about accessing IRC
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16:04 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Not good/disturbing trend here: courier does not knock on door, instead putting through the door a slip that
16:04 schestowitz-TR; says the parcel is INSIDE THE BIN! You can easily have it thrown away into a landfill. Lazy approach of nihilists, pushed throu
16:04 schestowitz-TR; gh with "cost-cutting" approaches...
16:04 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Dear UK couriers, the BIN is NOT a mail box. It's not secure and periodically it gets emptied into garbage tr
16:04 schestowitz-TR; ucks. People pay shipping fees for a service, not for you to dump objects of value into BINS. Worse yet, this practice will enc
16:04 schestowitz-TR; ourage petty thieves to go through your trash, making a mess in pursuit of treasures. This is the new "key under the doormat" l
16:04 schestowitz-TR; unacy.
16:04 schestowitz-TR; all those f*ers
16:04 schestowitz-TR; had to do was knock on the f*ing door
16:04 schestowitz-TR; both rianne and I had our headphones off for this
16:04 schestowitz-TR; and I only knew they came because I heard the mouth of the door opening for the slip
16:06 schestowitz-TR; "technological advancement" = bezos et al playing treeasure hunt with things you paid for
16:44 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Ramifications of Greed: The Bin is Not a Postbox and Mail Should Never be Delivered Into Peoples Trashcans https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/08/bins-are-not-mailboxes/
16:44 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Ramifications of Greed: The Bin is Not a Postbox and Mail Should Never be Delivered Into Peoples Trashcans
17:23 Techrights-sec; technically they are discarding the package they were supposed to have delivered
17:23 Techrights-sec; and falsely claimed to have delivered: committing fraud
17:23 Techrights-sec; and or facilitating theft
17:23 schestowitz-TR; ack
17:23 schestowitz-TR; ota
17:40 schestowitz-TR; ota
17:40 schestowitz-TR; it was about llf
17:40 schestowitz-TR; typing it up now
17:49 Techrights-sec; ack
17:49 Techrights-sec; did you file a business complaint against the delivery company for
17:49 Techrights-sec; discarding your package while lying about having delivered it?
17:49 Techrights-sec; ^business complaint with the government
17:50 schestowitz-TR; royal mail is the gov.
17:50 schestowitz-TR; it would go nowehere
17:50 schestowitz-TR; they would make up "convincing" excuses
17:50 schestowitz-TR; it's like filing a coc complaints about the coc committee
17:51 Techrights-sec; is there an ombudsman in a different branch that would be covering that topic?
17:51 schestowitz-TR; ombudsman is our former client
17:51 schestowitz-TR; and it does not yield much results
17:51 schestowitz-TR; it's slow, too
17:52 Techrights-sec; the point is to get the fraud registered and monitored not necessaril instant
17:52 Techrights-sec; satisfaction or justice
17:53 schestowitz-TR; i'd rather speak of the issue and let others chanse this
17:53 schestowitz-TR; I spent a long time last year complaining about a "medical" "services" company
17:53 schestowitz-TR; it got results, but took a lot of energy
17:53 schestowitz-TR; brb typing re lf
17:53 schestowitz-TR; will have draft soon, then move on to the next video
17:53 schestowitz-TR; riannt took charge of tm
17:53 Techrights-sec; ack
17:54 schestowitz-TR; i have no wine anymore, but we have vodka in case tomorrow I free up time by sem--retiring
17:54 Techrights-sec; log out from root before tippling
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18:49 Techrights-sec; ack
18:49 Techrights-sec; 1980s?
18:49 schestowitz-TR; draft
18:49 schestowitz-TR; wow, I found so many typos that it is embarassing
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18:54 schestowitz-TR; ota new epo stuff
18:54 schestowitz-TR; ota
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21:57 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> GPL is not a "burden", this is about people trying to make Perl more proprietary-friendly http://blogs.perl.org/users/dean/2022/06/reconsidering-the-licensing-of-perl-code.ht<techrights-news> GPL is not a "burden", this is about people trying to make Perl more proprietary-friendly http://blogs.perl.org/users/dean/2022/06/reconsidering-the-licensing-of-perl-code.htmlml
21:57 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ http://blogs.perl.org/users/dean/2022/06/reconsidering-the-licensing-of-perl-code.ht<techrights-news )
21:57 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ http://blogs.perl.org/users/dean/2022/06/reconsidering-the-licensing-of-perl-code.htmlml )
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