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IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, February 08, 2022

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beginning of new day, February 8

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2 AM, February 8

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3 AM, February 8

03:35 schestowitz-TR; i have added a draft

03:35 schestowitz-TR; iu do not expect typos to be found in it, but dsafers to store there early


6 AM, February 8

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8 AM, February 8

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9 AM, February 8

09:04 Techrights-sec; facebook is threatening to withdraw from Europe. The EU has a golden

09:04 Techrights-sec; opportunity to hold them to that promise and be rid of them.

09:04 Techrights-sec; Schrems II allows the EU a face-saving way to kick facebook to the curb. It

09:04 Techrights-sec; provides no value except mass manipulaton of opinion and the EU politicians

09:04 Techrights-sec; are not the ones in control, so from their perspective this is a very good

09:04 Techrights-sec; opportunity.

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09:18 Techrights-sec; yes

09:18 Techrights-sec; https://youtu.be/duaYLW7LQvg

↺ https://youtu.be/duaYLW7LQvg

09:18 Techrights-sec; shorter URL

09:18 Techrights-sec; Towards the end it shows politicians dogmatically bleating M$ talking points.

09:18 Techrights-sec; Most of the politicians know less than nothing about IT and treat it as a

09:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.youtube.com | Microsoft-Software: Safe for Europe? (Full Documentary, 2018) - YouTube

09:18 Techrights-sec; holy mandate to ensure that /only/ M$ products are ever deployed anywhere.

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10 AM, February 8

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11 AM, February 8

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11:08 schestowitz-TR; draft,,g emini

11:08 schestowitz-TR; i added tls 1.2 info

11:08 schestowitz-TR; when it comes to writing "news" or analyses regarding gemini

11:08 schestowitz-TR; I think we sort of lead the way

11:08 schestowitz-TR; and over time, the long run, mightg reap the rewards for it

11:08 schestowitz-TR; also, it is a rather unique issue

11:08 schestowitz-TR; and one that not many people can, at present, explain clearly enough

11:09 Techrights-sec; ack

11:09 Techrights-sec; there was some good discussion on the now defunct mailing list about tls 1.2

11:09 Techrights-sec; versus 1.3

11:17 schestowitz-TR; i will find that thread and link to it

11:17 schestowitz-TR; the list archives I have over gemini:// are far from complete

11:17 schestowitz-TR; not even 10% of the whole

11:42 schestowitz-TR; just a headsup, not ocomplianing: for thee second time in a week

11:42 schestowitz-TR; a lock file of gemini updater was not cleared

11:42 schestowitz-TR; so I have just deleted it manually

11:42 schestowitz-TR; I'm not sure if that's due to me calling it a second time while it already runs r

11:42 schestowitz-TR; emoately

11:42 schestowitz-TR; but either way my notifications make it clear when it fails or falls flat

11:42 schestowitz-TR; on its face

11:53 Techrights-sec; :(

11:53 Techrights-sec; looking. I've found several orphaned processes and killed them

11:53 Techrights-sec; I've also added an explicit removal of the lockfile at the end of

11:53 Techrights-sec; the script to be activated after a successful run.

11:54 schestowitz-TR; excellent, thank you.

11:54 schestowitz-TR; re rpi400, should be on its way and arrive this week

11:55 schestowitz-TR; i'll boot from usb, remove the accounts that are not needed, shut off things like

11:55 schestowitz-TR; irc bot

11:55 schestowitz-TR; as it would be like same machine running twice

11:55 schestowitz-TR; I'll buy two more usb sticks

11:55 schestowitz-TR; and then make clones on these

11:55 schestowitz-TR; rsync is OK for changes

11:55 schestowitz-TR; but rebuilding the whole system takes a lot of time

11:55 schestowitz-TR; don't want to go through it again until debian 11 is EoL

11:56 Techrights-sec; agreed

11:56 Techrights-sec; I'd try:

11:56 Techrights-sec; 1) burn image to usb stick

11:56 Techrights-sec; 2) boot resize and update it

11:56 Techrights-sec; 3) rsync over the existing stick

11:56 Techrights-sec; 4) file it away offline

11:58 schestowitz-TR; it took about 6 hours to make the last clone, i believe based on observing the pr

11:59 schestowitz-TR; ocess in the fs that it copies it file by file to the partitions that

11:59 schestowitz-TR; it creates

11:59 schestowitz-TR; gemini alone is like 50k directories, plus files...

11:59 Techrights-sec; That's too slow, it should take about 2 or 3 minutes tops.

11:59 Techrights-sec; Try from the RPi itself on one of the USB3 ports.


noon, February 8

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1 PM, February 8

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3 PM, February 8

15:58 blitzed; !COFFEE howdy

15:59 blitzed; gemini 50k dirs eh? convert it to database storage instead?


4 PM, February 8

16:00 blitzed; hack gemini server code to serve content via database record blobs !PEWPEW


5 PM, February 8

17:42 schestowitz-TR; blitzed: it's not how gemini works


6 PM, February 8

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7 PM, February 8

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19:18 schestowitz-TR; draft

19:18 schestowitz-TR; big nes

19:18 schestowitz-TR; *news

19:18 Techrights-sec; ?

19:18 Techrights-sec; strike is overdue there, but the management needs complete turnover and is not

19:18 Techrights-sec; competent even to hire its own replacements, nor honest enough

19:18 Techrights-sec; It is very important that they bring up the lack of EPC compliance.

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8 PM, February 8

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9 PM, February 8

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10 PM, February 8

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22:26 schestowitz-TR; "Flaa", who maintains a large French pod of diaspora

22:26 schestowitz-TR; is willing to help with some technical aspects

22:26 schestowitz-TR; but would not host joindiaspora

22:26 schestowitz-TR; I got that by email

22:26 schestowitz-TR; I suppose that leaves us with the question

22:26 schestowitz-TR; should we be the ones running the thing?

22:26 schestowitz-TR; moderation is not too hard with 5000 active users

22:26 schestowitz-TR; and piles of old accounts

22:26 schestowitz-TR; iirc, operating costs are about 800 a year

22:26 schestowitz-TR; and users are willing to help

22:26 schestowitz-TR; then, the sysadmin side of things is a matter of time

22:26 schestowitz-TR; I don't know the complexity of it


11 PM, February 8

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23:49 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/FetusKebabs/status/1491076935925080064

↺ https://twitter.com/FetusKebabs/status/1491076935925080064

23:49 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FetusKebabs: @ericgeller If anyone reading this wants to act indignant... it's extremely well documented. https://t.co/avY0tOlTQf

↺ https://t.co/avY0tOlTQf

23:49 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights

23:50 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/LDeLION/status/1491046880977223680

↺ https://twitter.com/LDeLION/status/1491046880977223680

23:50 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@LDeLION: Riesgo y consecuencias de colocar 100mil hombres a no hacer nada bajo el fro. https://t.co/PLnpk4G894

↺ https://t.co/PLnpk4G894

23:50 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: NEWS #CommonDreams #Ukraine #Russia Opinion | What the Cuban Missile Crisis Can Teach Us About Ending Hostili https://t.co/oqdNldDwYH

↺ https://t.co/oqdNldDwYH

23:50 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/TashiChris/status/1491055766215999489

↺ https://twitter.com/TashiChris/status/1491055766215999489

23:50 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TashiChris: This, , is the right approach https://t.co/oBOMB679tC

↺ https://t.co/oBOMB679tC


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