-- Leo's gemini proxy
-- Connecting to gemini.techrights.org:1965...
-- Connected
-- Sending request
-- Meta line: 20 text/gemini;lang=en-GB
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07:18 Techrights-sec; the New Matilda site, not just the feed, is down. Looks like it might be DNS
07:18 Techrights-sec; This has been a longer term problem so there may be more than just a
07:18 Techrights-sec; misconfiguration there on their end.
07:19 schestowitz-TR; they did not publish much in recent years, sometimes just pilger reposted
07:28 schestowitz; I am looking at export-stats.sh at the moment, as the number of unique requests does not seem to be right
07:28 schestowitz; in the bash code, which I guess is now in git history only, it used uniq and wc -l iirc
07:30 schestowitz; <li>
07:30 schestowitz; <h5><a href="https://www.gnu.org/software/parallel/20th-birthday.html">GNU Parallel's 20th birthday</a></h5>
07:30 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.gnu.org/software/parallel/20th-birthday.html">GNU )
07:30 schestowitz; <blockquote>
07:30 schestowitz; <p>The number of citations puts GNU Parallel firmly in the top 1% most cited papers and possibly in the top 0.1% (https://www.nature.com/news/nature-top-100-papers-infographicv2-30-10-14-jpg-7.21204?article=1.16224). I think that would not have happened if the citation notice had not been implemented.</p></blockquote></li>
07:30 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nature.com | nature_top_100_papers_infographicV2_30.10.14.jpg : Nature News & Comment
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07:43 schestowitz; Fwd: (VPP slide deck) Softwarepatente in Europa - wie das EPA prft
07:43 schestowitz; "
07:43 schestowitz; Earlier this week I got the VPP magazine in the mail. What a nice memory of one of my proudest moments in 2021! It was just great being able to share the stage with Beat Weibel, Fritz Blumer and Harald Heiske to discuss my passion topic in front of 250 patent professionals.
07:43 schestowitz; In case youre interested and able to read German, let me share my slide deck with you:
07:43 schestowitz; Softwarepatente in Europa wie das EPA prft (Bastian Best, 2021-10-29).pdf - Google Drive
07:43 schestowitz; Softwarepatente in Europa wie das EPA prft (Bastian Best, 2021-10-29).pdf - Google Drive
07:43 schestowitz; drive.google.com
07:44 schestowitz; Im curious: Are you sasitfied with the trajectory the EPO has outlined with G1/19, or do you think it needs adjustment?
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09:37 Techrights-sec; ??? http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-070122.html#tJan%2007%2
09:37 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, January 07, 2022
09:37 Techrights-sec; ??? http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-070122.html#tJan%2007%2020:19:02
09:37 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, January 07, 2022
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09:40 Techrights-sec; export-stats.sh is mostly AWK, but based on the sample file I have, it produces
09:40 Techrights-sec; the correct result. What parts seem off and can you provide a second sample log
09:40 Techrights-sec; file?
09:42 schestowitz-TR; if those number are correct, which is possible, then maybe the counter that sniffs packets over port 1965 is lowballing the numbers?
09:46 Techrights-sec; that one is not going from the packets afaik, it is using syslog
09:47 schestowitz-TR; yes, so maybe we can attribute this to data disparity
09:48 Techrights-sec; eg:
09:48 Techrights-sec; Nov 17 00:06:46 raspberrypi agate.armv7-unknown-linux-gnueabihf[458]: [2021-11-17
09:48 Techrights-sec; T00:06:46Z INFO agate] [::ffff:192.168.1.82]:1965 - "gemini://gemini.techrights.
09:48 Techrights-sec; org/2011/05/29/gates-gives-bbc-money/" 20 "text/gemini;lang=en-GB"
09:48 Techrights-sec; wait, tcpdump is used in /usr/local/sbin/tcpdump-logger.sh
09:49 Techrights-sec; not src net 192.168.1.0/24 and dst net 192.168.1.0/24
09:49 Techrights-sec; and tcp[tcpflags] & (tcp-syn) != 0 and port 1965
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09:51 Techrights-sec; You could run a second instance of tcpdump manually to see what else is
09:51 Techrights-sec; on port 1965, if anything, which does not match the above, but the above should
09:51 Techrights-sec; only get the initial connections. Does the Gemini provisional spec keep the
09:51 Techrights-sec; TCP connection open for multiple requests? That would be one explanation.
09:53 schestowitz-TR; I have just manually checked the logs
09:53 schestowitz-TR; the numbers are almost the same
09:53 schestowitz-TR; I think that maybe the thing counted in the page is not the same
09:53 schestowitz-TR; unique requests would or should mean a request for a page
09:53 schestowitz-TR; so that 100 reqs for the same page would count as 1
09:53 schestowitz-TR; that's what the bash version did
09:53 schestowitz-TR; I am not sure what the awk version does
09:54 Techrights-sec; the awk version of export-stats.sh sums up the total accesses for each page.
09:54 Techrights-sec; Agate should be logging to a different file anyway.
09:54 schestowitz-TR; I agree
09:54 schestowitz-TR; anyway, at least we discuss all this and compare
09:55 schestowitz-TR; seems like a miscommunication about what unique URL req meant
09:56 Techrights-sec; That version is from June last year and needs to be replaced before it
09:56 Techrights-sec; is a liability
10:00 Techrights-sec; $ apt-cache search '^agate$' | wc -l
10:00 Techrights-sec;
10:00 Techrights-sec; will have to build from source again
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12:19 Techrights-sec; $ apt-cache search '^agate$' | wc -l
12:19 Techrights-sec;
12:19 Techrights-sec; will have to build from source again
12:19 Techrights-sec; rust promotes that curl | sh crap
12:19 Techrights-sec; tldr; rust remains hot garbage
12:19 Techrights-sec; agate uses the env_logger module and cannot change log facility only
12:19 Techrights-sec; log level : https://docs.rs/env_logger/latest/env_logger/
12:19 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-docs.rs | env_logger - Rust
12:19 Techrights-sec; see ~/bin/agate-3.2.1 for an updated version, does not fix logging though
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12:42 schestowitz; x https://threatpost.com/microsoft-rampant-log4j-exploits-testing/177358/
12:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-threatpost.com | Microsoft Sees Rampant Log4j Exploit Attempts, Testing | Threatpost
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12:58 Techrights-sec; I did look into that a long time ago, reached the same conclusion
13:00 Techrights-sec; and really, you should never bash rust; that's transphobic and can get you sued
13:01 schestowitz-TR; back on topic though
13:01 schestowitz-TR; my assertion was, originally
13:01 schestowitz-TR; that the unique requests count was not correct
13:02 schestowitz-TR; it turns out my implmentation and yours do not count the same sort of thing
13:02 schestowitz-TR; which is fine, as that number is not really important anyway
13:02 schestowitz-TR; I cannot quite find a topic for a video today
13:02 schestowitz-TR; suggestions welcome
13:05 schestowitz-TR; correction (two lines about misattributed)
13:05 schestowitz-TR; " I did look into that a long time ago, reached the same conclusion"
13:05 schestowitz-TR; "and really, you should never bash rust; that's transphobic and can get you sued"
13:05 schestowitz-TR; reference to Mr. Goolag
13:08 schestowitz; old:
13:08 schestowitz; x https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/security-unlocked/14/transcript
13:08 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thecyberwire.com | Pluton: The New Bedrock for Device Security
13:17 Techrights-sec; maybe a good topic would be avoiding vendor lock-in through open standards
13:17 Techrights-sec; if not also free and open source software. Work back from the data towards
13:17 Techrights-sec; the hardware. M$ and Apple are working that direction towards lock-in while
13:17 Techrights-sec; at the same time working from the system firmware on up towards lock-in. So
13:17 Techrights-sec; far much of it is manditorily present but disabled by default, for now. When
13:17 Techrights-sec; that crap meets in the middle, they will start making it active by default.
13:17 Techrights-sec; Also, that looks like the main reasons for the push to "cloud" storage for data.
13:17 Techrights-sec; That way they have control of the data without quibbling over file formats:
13:17 Techrights-sec; there are no files, at least none the public can get at.
13:18 Techrights-sec; Is there a link showing that ProPublica took Bill's money?
13:18 schestowitz; https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php
13:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cjr.org | Journalisms Gates keepers - Columbia Journalism Review
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13:21 Techrights-sec; blocked by gratiuitous javascript. working around that...
13:21 Techrights-sec; Recipients included news operations like the BBC, NBC, Al Jazeera, ProPublica, Na
13:21 Techrights-sec; tional Journal, The Guardian, Univision, Medium, the Financial Times, The Atlanti
13:21 Techrights-sec; c, the Texas Tribune, Gannett, Washington Monthly, Le Monde, and the Center for I
13:21 Techrights-sec; nvestigative Reporting;"""
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15:40 Techrights-sec; yes
15:40 Techrights-sec; https://wiki.debian.org/SimplePackagingTutorial
15:40 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-wiki.debian.org | SimplePackagingTutorial - Debian Wiki
15:43 Techrights-sec; https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html
15:43 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.debian.org | 5. Control files and their fields Debian Policy Manual v4.6.0.1
15:50 Techrights-sec; once the package is built the first time there is a lot less technical effort
15:50 Techrights-sec; involved and mostly just administrivia and keeping up with patches and deadlines
15:50 Techrights-sec; -- per architecture
15:50 schestowitz-TR; it would be beneficial to TR if people can and will get clients more easily
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15:57 Techrights-sec; lynx or links might serve as a model for packaging
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16:27 Techrights-sec; except that they are not written in Golang.
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16:51 schestowitz-TR; see draft
16:51 schestowitz-TR; ok
16:51 Techrights-sec;
16:51 Techrights-sec; probably best to keep the draft back until tuesday
16:51 Techrights-sec; time to think more on it
16:51 Techrights-sec; back in a bit
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17:32 schestowitz-TR; TR gooing at 7.1 hits/sec since reboot; many are failed login attempts, but
17:32 schestowitz-TR; those are nothing new
17:32 schestowitz-TR; just need to always have regular (nightly) backups and stay vigilant
17:32 schestowitz-TR; I keep out in the open attacks on us, as that weakens the attacker, I think
17:33 Techrights-sec; Nothing new but could be dealt with in an automated manner easily after an OS
17:33 Techrights-sec; upgrade.
17:33 Techrights-sec; ack
17:33 Techrights-sec; What is the timeline for the OS upgrade, getting rid of the last CentOS holdouts
17:33 Techrights-sec; would help everyone here all around, including even the casual visitors.
17:33 Techrights-sec; Adding a mute to the main IRC channel might help retain newcomers.
17:33 schestowitz-TR; mute is the very last resort, yes
17:34 schestowitz-TR; I am about to test (again) the video script by making another short new video
17:48 Techrights-sec; commit early, commit often """
17:48 schestowitz-TR; the redaction adds some overhead
17:49 Techrights-sec; ok I'll be quiet about it then.
17:49 Techrights-sec; there should be some established best practice for isolating secrets from
17:49 Techrights-sec; committed code.
17:50 Techrights-sec; It is probably "just" a matter of finding what they are and not reinventing the
17:50 Techrights-sec; wheel/
17:50 schestowitz-TR; I could read the passwords or lines from a file, but lines as a whole need omitting because of addresses and dir struct (account name can help brude-forcing)
17:50 schestowitz-TR; *brute
17:51 Techrights-sec; maybe it could be part of a shell function which is loaded from the excluded
17:51 Techrights-sec; file
17:52 schestowitz-TR; that would need 3 external files for 3 such operations
17:52 Techrights-sec; if the three operations are called from a single script, then the functions
17:52 Techrights-sec; could be in one file. The functions can still be called separately.
17:53 schestowitz-TR; there could be argument passing
17:53 schestowitz-TR; if you want to implement something.
17:53 schestowitz-TR; it might be fast to code, longer to test etc.
17:53 Techrights-sec; ok functions can take arguments, just like whole scripts.
17:54 schestowitz-TR; about to record, see draft
17:57 Techrights-sec; reading
17:57 Techrights-sec; It is important to start with the point that in Gemini, TLS is obligatory.
17:57 Techrights-sec; Also it has links and some limited structural elements.
17:57 Techrights-sec; Gopher is just a plain file + a directory structure, without encryption.
17:57 Techrights-sec; The main downside to Gemini is the bug where it does not send the size of the
17:57 Techrights-sec; file in advance.
18:00 Techrights-sec; i spent 5 minutes tring to find a table with featurs and text specifying
18:00 Techrights-sec; sypport by gemini and gopher
18:00 Techrights-sec; no such thing could be found
18:00 Techrights-sec; techrights was very prominent when searchiing these topics
18:00 Techrights-sec; this is one of those very rare cases where I do the text BEFORE the video
18:00 schestowitz-TR; i spent 5 minutes tring to find a table with featurs and text specifying
18:00 schestowitz-TR; sypport by gemini and gopher
18:00 schestowitz-TR; no such thing could be found
18:00 schestowitz-TR; techrights was very prominent when searchiing these topics
18:00 schestowitz-TR; this is one of those very rare cases where I do the text BEFORE the video
18:00 Techrights-sec; yes many searches for Gemini bring up TR pages
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18:30 schestowitz-TR; thanks for the files
18:32 Techrights-sec; np
18:35 schestowitz-TR; oddly enough the date still does not get added, as judged by smplayer
18:35 schestowitz-TR; I will isolate the code and push in a moment
18:36 Techrights-sec; thanks I'll take a look
18:41 schestowitz-TR; wishlist: a way to detect conversion being around halfway, then trigger upload
18:41 schestowitz-TR; ffmpeg seems to have no such API, so I do this manually
18:42 Techrights-sec; that risks a race condition, if the upload rate exceeds the transcoding
18:42 Techrights-sec; enough then it will run out of file to upload
18:42 schestowitz-TR; which is OK, as it rsyncs afterwards
18:54 Techrights-sec; then rsync should be used for the initial upload, too, in case it goes south
19:01 schestowitz-TR; ok, check the push for sanity
19:01 schestowitz-TR; I made an external fuction
19:03 schestowitz; checksum() {
19:03 schestowitz; local f=$1
19:03 schestowitz; local b=$2
19:03 schestowitz; sshpass -xxxxx ssh xxxxx md5sum /homexxxxxxxxxx/videos/$f.webm
19:03 schestowitz; return 0
19:03 schestowitz; }
19:03 Techrights-sec; yep
19:03 Techrights-sec; that isolates the private info
19:03 Techrights-sec; check to be sure that the video programs accept the metadata field "creator"
19:04 schestowitz-TR; vlc accepts and shows creator
19:04 Techrights-sec; ek
19:04 Techrights-sec; eek
19:04 Techrights-sec; password should not be used there. a locked-down key can be formed for
19:04 Techrights-sec; just that one task.
19:04 Techrights-sec; ok good, "creator" is closer to standard Dublin Core so it is a preferable term
19:07 Techrights-sec; prepending the key with a
19:07 Techrights-sec; command="something" ssh ...
19:07 Techrights-sec; will lock it into "something" that something can be a script and then
19:07 Techrights-sec; that script can read the environment variable SSH_ORIGINAL_COMMAND with a case
19:07 Techrights-sec; statement so that the same key can be reused within the script even if it
19:07 Techrights-sec; is called three times for different subtasks..
19:07 Techrights-sec; The checksum is easiest but rsync is a little harder
19:07 schestowitz-TR; I'll do this one step at the time, I reckon the video stuff will grow a lot as we automate more stuff
19:08 Techrights-sec; Or the key can simply have a long pass phrase and be loaded into an agent for
19:08 Techrights-sec; use with the script and then be purged from the agent by the script itself
19:08 Techrights-sec; at the end
19:09 schestowitz-TR; I stopped changing the file I pushed, for now, in case you can make improvement o
19:09 schestowitz-TR; r spoit mistakes
19:11 Techrights-sec; $ git diff preview.sh
19:11 Techrights-sec; diff --git a/Desktop-Utils/preview.sh b/Desktop-Utils/preview.sh
19:11 Techrights-sec; index c4e15e8..9314743 100644
19:11 Techrights-sec; --- a/Desktop-Utils/preview.sh
19:11 Techrights-sec; +++ b/Desktop-Utils/preview.sh
19:11 Techrights-sec; @@ -221,7 +221,8 @@ nice ffmpeg \
19:11 Techrights-sec; -metadata \
19:11 Techrights-sec; license="Creative Commons Attribution-No Derivative Works 4.0" \
19:11 Techrights-sec; -metadata author="Roy Schestowitz" \
19:11 Techrights-sec; - -metadata date="$(stat --printf='%y' $VIDEO_FILE.webm | cut -d ' ' -f1)"
19:11 Techrights-sec; $VIDEO_FILE.webm
19:11 Techrights-sec; + -metadata date="$(stat --printf='%y' $VIDEO_FILE.webm
19:11 Techrights-sec; + | cut -d ' ' -f1)" $VIDEO_FILE.webm
19:11 Techrights-sec; notify-send \
19:11 Techrights-sec; --app-name=konversation \
19:11 Techrights-sec; I would try that, otherwise it seems good (aside from ssh-pass)
19:13 schestowitz; stat: cannot stat 'gemini-gopher-2022.webm': No such file or directory
19:14 schestowitz-TR; that is from std i/o with version I pushed to git
19:14 schestowitz-TR; ongoing upload
19:16 Techrights-sec; try inserting
19:16 Techrights-sec; set -x
19:16 Techrights-sec; set -v
19:16 Techrights-sec; set -e
19:16 Techrights-sec; ahead of the parts in question, the -x and -v will show what is about to run
19:16 Techrights-sec; including the variable contents, the -e will ensure that the script quits
19:16 Techrights-sec; as soon as an error turns up. Then once diagnosis is finished, they can
19:16 Techrights-sec; be either removed or remmed out.
19:16 Techrights-sec; ^commented out
19:16 schestowitz-TR; can you add these at your end before push?
19:16 schestowitz-TR; to avoid conflict
19:23 Techrights-sec; I'll let you make all the changes, on this one until we get the hang of
19:23 Techrights-sec; concurrent editing.
19:23 Techrights-sec; I have not commited the above diff.
19:23 schestowitz-TR; \
19:23 schestowitz-TR; ok, I have pushed all the changes
19:23 schestowitz-TR; mind you, I did not use slash at the end of the line with 'stat'
19:24 Techrights-sec; Ok, but the pipe may need to go at the end of the previous line, if I recall
19:24 Techrights-sec; from before. It's hard since I can't actually test from here.
19:24 schestowitz-TR; I just went by the diff you shows me
19:24 schestowitz-TR; showed
19:25 Techrights-sec; Yes, I amd good at transposition typos
19:25 schestowitz-TR; either way, we are still dealing with dough code
19:26 Techrights-sec; ack
19:29 Techrights-sec; line 75, with the trap release is probably not needed since nothing is trapped
19:29 Techrights-sec; prior to it
19:29 Techrights-sec; same for line 269
19:30 schestowitz-TR; yes, lazy hack to pause for intervention from me
19:33 Techrights-sec; I've figured out a convenient way to use an SSH key for this, so the
19:33 Techrights-sec; key itself has a passphrase which is entered at the start of the script
19:33 Techrights-sec; and then the key is removed from memory at the end ofth escript.
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21:09 schestowitz; Ken Karp (@kenk44): "Covid relief funds in red states are being used for everything but covid relief. For example, our doozy governor, Ron Desantis has used federal covid relief funds in a pathetic effort to win votes by giving the money to first responders instead of those it was intended for." | nitter https://nitter.eu/kenk44/status/1479913955992686592 #nitter | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/01/08/#latest
21:09 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.eu | Ken Karp (@kenk44): "Covid relief funds in red states are being used for everything but covid relief. For example, our doozy governor, Ron Desantis has used federal covid relief funds in a pathetic effort to win votes by giving the money to first responders instead of those it was intended for." | nitter
21:09 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
21:11 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/DrGem2015/status/1479876024464781316
21:11 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@DrGem2015: @schestowitz Why are Biden`s blowflies harassing Big Tech? https://t.co/V2bPCUzs9b
21:11 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> drivebycuriosity.blogspot.com | DriveByCuriosity: Economics: Why People Love Big Tech And Politicians Hate Them
21:11 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1479862346885603329
21:11 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: amazing story https://t.co/vJnGWByfmZ
21:11 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: In the footsteps of the women who escaped a Nazi death march - BBC News https://t.co/kTUM4vrQ1p #billbc #antifa #antifascist
21:12 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/rosammat/status/1479755754752020482
21:12 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@rosammat: @POTUS @d_s_thakur https://t.co/d01esee0E2
21:12 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: NEWS #ProPublica #Health A High-Risk Medical Device Didnt Meet Federal Standards. The Government Paid Millio https://t.co/kDgyjJjx9e
21:13 schestowitz; rosamma thomas (@rosammat): "@POTUS @d_s_thakur" | nitter https://nitter.eu/rosammat/status/1479755754752020482 #nitter | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/01/08/#latest
21:13 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.eu | rosamma thomas (@rosammat): "@POTUS @d_s_thakur" | nitter
21:13 schestowitz; https://nitter.eu/rosammat/status/1479755754752020482
21:13 schestowitz; Nas - one of 2m Arab Israelis you never hear about (@NKippur): "Hamas announces THIRTY attacks A DAY on Israel in 2021, not including the 4,500 rockets on civilians from Gaza's urban areas (a double war crime.) #HowTo demonize Palestinian Solidarity! @EmmaWatson" | nitter https://nitter.eu/NKippur/status/1479743945194151937 #nitter | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/01/08/#latest
21:13 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.eu | Nas - one of 2m Arab Israelis you never hear about (@NKippur): "Hamas announces THIRTY attacks A DAY on Israel in 2021, not including the 4,500 rockets on civilians from Gaza's urban areas (a double war crime.) How to demonize Palestinian Solidarity! @EmmaWatson" | nitter
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