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beginning of new day, Dec 7

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08:50 Techrights-sec; router maintenance ; approx 30 min

08:50 Techrights-sec; maintenance comaintenance completemplete

08:50 Techrights-sec; back in a few hours

08:50 schestowitz-TR; I am loooking at the code atm

08:50 schestowitz-TR; I sent you the gmi files, they seem sane to me

08:50 schestowitz-TR; I think if I send those 4 additional files to the same dir, it can cause issues with ipfs workflow

08:50 schestowitz-TR; so, I am thinking

08:50 schestowitz-TR; how about writing those 4 gmi files directly to the gemini account

08:50 schestowitz-TR; and, if so,wqhat dir?

08:50 schestowitz-TR; I don't think we need gmi objects in ipfs

08:50 schestowitz-TR; also, this would leapfrog the need to hardlink or copy across files, or duplicate files


9 AM, Dec 7

09:13 schestowitz-TR; proceeding

09:13 schestowitz-TR; created ~/gemini/irc-gmi

09:13 schestowitz-TR; this is where I will sed the gmi files

09:13 schestowitz-TR; I've also increased open file limit

09:13 schestowitz-TR; ipfs is so weird that to add new objects

09:13 schestowitz-TR; it basically opens ALL the files

09:13 schestowitz-TR; which means 4000 items in ipfs would require keeping 4000 open file when running 'add'

09:13 schestowitz-TR; anyway, I will attempt, for the next night, to put gmi files in that new dir

09:13 schestowitz-TR; nce it is accomodatyed we'll need to make an index of the files in it

09:13 schestowitz-TR; we can kleep in gemini both gmi and txt version

09:18 schestowitz-TR; so this basically means on http we have html and text. on gemini gmi and txt

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10 AM, Dec 7

10:01 schestowitz-TR; tested file transmission, all seems fine, so now we have one daily stack for me to add to index

10:01 schestowitz-TR; 1. I made a full copy of the pi's /home so in case of catastrophe reinstating the server is not unsurmountable

10:01 schestowitz-TR; 2. I am now tryint to make index for gmi alongside irc txt files

10:01 schestowitz-TR; 3. when you are around, it is worth modifying irc tables perl/shell file to link to the gei version

10:01 schestowitz-TR; alongside the text version in wordpress blog post. also, maybe add gemini link for daily bellutin

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11:46 schestowitz; x https://thehill.com/policy/technology/584520-microsoft-disrupts-chinese-hacking-group-targeting-organizations-in-dozens

↺ https://thehill.com/policy/technology/584520-microsoft-disrupts-chinese-hacking-group-targeting-organizations-in-dozens

11:46 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thehill.com | Microsoft disrupts Chinese hacking group targeting organizations in dozens of countries | TheHill


noon, Dec 7

12:39 schestowitz; I've just done some maintenance of ipfs; it uses up a lot of bandwidth but times out on requests regardless.

12:39 schestowitz;

12:39 schestowitz; Re IRC:

12:39 schestowitz; DONE: add links

12:39 schestowitz; DONE: add uploads -> pi only (tested locally, will see if it works OK tonight)

12:39 schestowitz; NOT NEEDED: add cron hardlink

12:39 schestowitz; DONE: remove "plain text" at 3 levels (we no longer need to say this)

12:39 schestowitz; DONE: add to index at gemini (extensive testing needed, esp. when more files get added)

12:39 schestowitz; NEXT:

12:39 schestowitz; change link in irc blog post? Or add 4 more links, for the gemtext version...

12:39 schestowitz; add link to bulletin at gemini:// (alongside www link and ipfs hash)

↺ gemini://

12:39 schestowitz; change link in irc botx4 channels?

12:39 schestowitz; I've pushed to git the stuff done so far.


1 PM, Dec 7

13:58 Techrights-sec; pulling from Git

13:58 schestowitz-TR; uploading a video related to this atm


2 PM, Dec 7

14:01 Techrights-sec; yes, next will be to change the links in the newly created pages from .txt to

14:01 Techrights-sec; .gmi

14:01 Techrights-sec; Which directory have / will the new Gemtext IRC logs been uploaded to?

14:01 schestowitz-TR; it is done already, you can see IRC logs for December (in Gemini)

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14:02 schestowitz; gemini://gemini.techrights.org/boycottnovell/2021/12/index.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/boycottnovell/2021/12/index.gmi

14:03 schestowitz-TR; the video demonstrates this better, eta 10 mins

14:03 Techrights-sec; URL?

14:03 Techrights-sec; $ find ~/gemini/ -type f -name techrights-2021-12-06techrights-2021-12-06.gmi -print | wc -l

14:03 Techrights-sec;

14:05 Techrights-sec; gemini://gemini.techrights.org/boycottnovell/2021/12/

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/boycottnovell/2021/12/

14:05 Techrights-sec; that's still plain text

14:06 schestowitz-TR; maybe you have it cached? There are two sections, the first is "GemText Version"

14:15 Techrights-sec; found it

14:15 Techrights-sec; akc

14:15 Techrights-sec; ack

14:15 schestowitz-TR; video published 10 saecs ago

14:15 Techrights-sec; these need updating, I'll look into it:

14:15 Techrights-sec; gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/07/irc-log-061221/

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/07/irc-log-061221/

14:15 schestowitz-TR; i think best to have 4+4 links, 2 section, for text and for gemtext

14:16 schestowitz-TR; the bulletin link at the bottom also has a gemini equivalent that we can add. many "geminites" already read techrights, so this helps

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3 PM, Dec 7

15:07 schestowitz-TR; on another topic, I minute ago I deleted rms rss feed

15:07 schestowitz-TR; for the same reason I did it a decade ago

15:07 schestowitz-TR; about 90% of today's links there are bill'a guardian

15:07 schestowitz-TR; so it's not good RoI

15:09 Techrights-sec; It's too bad that RMS does not see the layers in the sources

15:09 Techrights-sec; Too much intrigue there for most people.

15:09 Techrights-sec; ack

15:09 schestowitz-TR; If I wanted to read bill, I'd sign up for their rss feed, but that gives them traffic

15:09 schestowitz-TR; gemini at least gives some inirection so I can glance at headlines

15:10 schestowitz-TR; btw, the site I use for that has a very limited selection of non-tech sites syndicated. for that, it's nypost (murdoch) or bill. wish it had reuters or something...

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15:21 Techrights-sec; My RSS feed list has grown a lot but it is mostly low-yield stuff.

15:21 Techrights-sec; Even the best blogs post infrequently. But quality over quantity is important

15:22 schestowitz-TR; when there is no flow or low flow of information it gets harder to write and you end up clickbaiting like micro larabel

15:26 Techrights-sec; It'd be an interesting academic research project to track all those that

15:26 Techrights-sec; got bought out and how/why it happened. But much is probably under NDA

15:26 Techrights-sec; and on top of that it must hurt too much to speak of.

15:26 Techrights-sec; ... at least if they have any soul left

15:27 schestowitz-TR; on the upside, it leaves us with less competition. but back in the days there was TONS of stuff I could write about, now I rely in direct sources for EPO, GitHub etc. because there is barely any reporting at all

15:34 Techrights-sec; yes, TR stands out among fewer sites

15:36 schestowitz-TR; TM turns 17.5 at midnight

15:36 schestowitz-TR; Susan still in touch, still watching, still healthy too (afaik)

15:36 Techrights-sec; Excellent

15:36 Techrights-sec; The content there is posted before anywhere else as far as I know

15:36 schestowitz-TR; yes, speed is VERY importany

15:38 Techrights-sec; Excellent. Maybe it 2.5 years there will be a small party

15:38 Techrights-sec; at least online

15:38 schestowitz-TR; you know, in theory you can convert the TM RSS feed into a dynamic gmi page, which MIGHT be of use to some people

15:50 Techrights-sec; Can you elaborate?

15:50 Techrights-sec; gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/07/irc-log-061221/

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/07/irc-log-061221/

15:50 Techrights-sec; ... produced by the cron script

15:50 Techrights-sec; unfortunately because of the directoru change Gemini vs WWW, a small kludge

15:50 Techrights-sec; is involved

15:50 schestowitz; 1. regarding tuxmachines in gemini, not worth its own capsule, but its updates are rapid and it can have a little section akin to a feed in gemini.tr, I think. Assuming there's "demand" for that...

15:50 schestowitz; 2. looking into the changes right now

15:55 Techrights-sec; It'd be a lot of trouble in the script and would be double so brittle as now.

15:55 schestowitz-TR; can we have both the txt and gmi links? maybe not worth it? it's already there anyway, same for txt over gemini:

15:55 schestowitz-TR; // for bulletin

15:55 schestowitz-TR; ah OK, so never mind, leave it just as gmi

15:55 schestowitz-TR; thegemini pages contain the txt in the indexes anyway

15:55 Techrights-sec; thanks

15:58 schestowitz-TR; snide remark against LF in Phoronix today, the last paragraph. I hope people wake up and see who they front for before it's too late. The IRC log past midnight (today) contains discussion about the contents of this LF report. Lots of Microsoft crap, almost infuriating


4 PM, Dec 7

16:00 schestowitz-TR; the name is the problem. People are led to believe PF is NOT what it actually is

16:00 schestowitz-TR; it barely even employs any kernel hackers!!!

16:02 Techrights-sec; Most, too many, project wishful thinking onto the LF and have false expectations

16:02 Techrights-sec; based on the name. It is not a foundation to advance Linux it is a foundation

16:02 Techrights-sec; to advance its members' interests within Linux. That is the inverse of what

16:02 Techrights-sec; people generally expect.

16:02 Techrights-sec; percentage-wise a negligble amount of the money goes to technology skills

16:02 schestowitz-TR; TR did two or more posts about their edX course

16:03 Techrights-sec; pushed to Git now

16:03 schestowitz-TR; checking

16:05 schestowitz-TR; pushed

16:12 schestowitz-TR; nhs just called, all fine

16:12 schestowitz-TR; I see in my inbox a reply to my formal complaint

16:12 schestowitz-TR; I have not opend it yet

16:12 schestowitz-TR; as I assume it would be time-consuming to deal with, maybe another blog post

16:12 schestowitz-TR; but I know for sure thousands of people suffered like me, 10-20k on the queue the lady said

16:12 Techrights-sec; class-action lawsuits are about the only way to deal with misbehaving private

16:12 Techrights-sec; companies, lead plaintiff (if victorious) gets a lot but it is also a time sink

16:13 schestowitz-TR; btw, gulagtroll deadline has passed, and no communication since

16:15 Techrights-sec; should gemtext irc logs repeat the date at the beginning of every new hour

16:15 Techrights-sec; or just once at the beginning of each new day? I'm thinking the latter

16:15 Techrights-sec; might be better for screen readers and such.

16:15 Techrights-sec; The extranous punctuation / pseudo markup can be removed from the gemtext

16:15 Techrights-sec; version too

16:16 schestowitz-TR; maybe add the hour before the date?

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16:20 Techrights-sec; "Dec 04, at 01 o'clock" ?

16:20 Techrights-sec; I'm thinking that since the whole page is for a single day, the date

16:20 Techrights-sec; is quite redundant and would be annoying to listen to especially over

16:20 Techrights-sec; calm periods in the log

16:21 schestowitz-TR; no, this is not an issue because for idle hours it gets omitted anyway

16:22 schestowitz-TR; it helps me and others too I assume get a sense of TIME. Like one long block between the bookmarks being a conversation that is active and fast

16:23 schestowitz-TR; for clarity, for 'newbs', it might help to include the hour first, e.g. 5:00 date

16:24 Techrights-sec; ok I'll put them back

16:59 Techrights-sec; another change pushed to Git

16:59 schestowitz-TR; I very much like the verbal descriptions. FWIW, yesterday's logs were polluted but lots of nasty stuff from ryan, but after midnight (IIRC) he got much more constructive and on-topic


5 PM, Dec 7

17:04 schestowitz-TR; who is this josh duggar dude?

17:04 schestowitz-TR; is he important?

17:04 schestowitz-TR; when searching for "Linux" news he keeps showing up like a Han Reiser

17:04 schestowitz-TR; connecting "Linux" to psedophilia

17:04 schestowitz-TR; I never heard of this guy

17:04 schestowitz-TR; And I am suspicious about the media's motivations unlkess he is well known

17:11 Techrights-sec; no idea, never heard of him

17:11 Techrights-sec; the media (via the new fake local news sites) does appear to be up to something

17:11 Techrights-sec; malicious, what it is would be hard to guess but maybe lining up their shots

17:11 Techrights-sec; to smear FOSS or non-Windows systems in general

17:12 schestowitz-TR; seems like a potential smear, wherein freesw users are "pedophiles"... Cimpanu at ZDNet tried to connect Linux/Gentoo to ISIS, and the Microsofters cheered along back then

17:12 Techrights-sec; yes something like that

17:13 schestowitz-TR; I'll keep the lid (no links) unless it escalates. "Linux partition" associated with "child abuse"...

17:14 Techrights-sec; yes, "they" will say anything to disparage GNU.Linux

17:20 schestowitz-TR; there is NO way for me to cover this WITHOUT making the harm even worse

17:20 Techrights-sec; ack

17:21 schestowitz-TR; Media: I don't always mention what OS the subject of the article uses (alongside Windows). But when I do, I make sure the sponsors like that angle...

17:29 Techrights-sec; xhtml-log-to-text.pl now polished

17:34 schestowitz-TR; yes, I found that comma a tad misleading before and without some fancy unicode that harms the blind I can't think of something more suitable than a tab or two

17:36 Techrights-sec; I figure the comma is for screen readers which would put a pause there

17:37 schestowitz; roy@vonick:~/Git/Gemini$ diff ../IRC/xhtml-log-to-text.pl ~/xhtml-log-to-text.pl | wc -l

17:37 schestowitz; 45

17:37 schestowitz; roy@vonick:~/Git/Gemini$ cp ~/xhtml-log-to-text.pl ~/tmp-delme

17:37 schestowitz; roy@vonick:~/Git/Gemini$ cp ../IRC/xhtml-log-to-text.pl ~/xhtml-log-to-text.pl

17:37 schestowitz; roy@vonick:~/Git/Gemini$ diff ../IRC/xhtml-log-to-text.pl ~/xhtml-log-to-text.pl | wc -l

17:37 schestowitz; 45

17:37 schestowitz; roy@vonick:~/Git/Gemini$ cp ~/xhtml-log-to-text.pl ~/tmp-delme

17:37 schestowitz; roy@vonick:~/Git/Gemini$ cp ../IRC/xhtml-log-to-text.pl ~/xhtml-log-to-text.pl

17:37 schestowitz; hopefully no bugs, we've made many changes today

17:39 Techrights-sec; yes, there are probably more tweaks

17:39 schestowitz-TR; i'm on shift 1-9am the next 3 nights, so will stay awake to intervene if needed


6 PM, Dec 7

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7 PM, Dec 7

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19:27 Techrights-sec; ack

19:27 Techrights-sec; pushed to Git; will let it rest until tomorrow

19:41 schestowitz-TR; ty


8 PM, Dec 7

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9 PM, Dec 7

21:14 schestowitz; https://www.fosslife.org/20-linux-one-line-commands

↺ https://www.fosslife.org/20-linux-one-line-commands

21:14 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fosslife.org | 20 Linux One-Line Commands

21:14 schestowitz; "

21:14 schestowitz; Linux users love time-saving commands that achieve multiple actions in just one line, and these one-liners are great examples of why the terminal is such a powerful tool.

21:14 schestowitz; This article shares 20 one-liners to help streamline your Linux tasks.

21:14 schestowitz; "


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