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06:23 Techrights-sec; http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-061022.html#tOct%2006%2000:03:56
06:23 Techrights-sec; ^ topic ?
06:23 Techrights-sec; http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-061022.html#tOct%2006%2000:07:52
06:23 Techrights-sec; ^ topic ?
06:23 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, October 06, 2022
06:23 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, October 06, 2022
06:26 schestowitz-TR; thanks
06:26 schestowitz-TR; gym brb
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07:00 Techrights-sec; np
07:01 schestowitz-TR; going to go to aldi later, we expect a busy day later
07:01 schestowitz-TR; I put down in notes the topics suggested
07:13 schestowitz-TR; i do not have data to back this up with
07:13 schestowitz-TR; but it 'felt' like tuesday and weds are the busy news day
07:13 schestowitz-TR; by thursday it's already slow news day
07:13 schestowitz-TR; more so friday
07:13 schestowitz-TR; the vulume in the Links files may have affirm this
07:13 schestowitz-TR; if split by day of week
07:13 schestowitz-TR; then weighed by length of file
07:13 schestowitz-TR; then charted
07:13 schestowitz-TR; i could do the same with supplementary links (linux-y sites)
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07:43 Techrights-sec; That rather matches my observations too in recent years. Friday through
07:43 Techrights-sec; Monday have basically no news. It'd be hard to assess thoroughly because
07:43 Techrights-sec; the pages linked to have no uniform way of reading the date, if they even
07:43 Techrights-sec; have the date in a machine readable format or if they have the date at all.
07:43 Techrights-sec; But perhaps the small subset with machine readable dates could be analyze.
07:43 Techrights-sec; d
07:43 Techrights-sec; Their presence in our link lists would be too inaccurate since it can
07:43 Techrights-sec; take a few days or longer to find them. So landing in the link lists can happen
07:43 Techrights-sec; days after actual publication, if not weeks or months.
07:52 schestowitz-TR; larabel played a role in the "linuyx breaks your PC" FUD from Microsoft sites
07:52 schestowitz-TR; I firts looked at the mailing list message
07:52 schestowitz-TR; it's an intel bug by intel
07:52 schestowitz-TR; anyway, cliackbait was mentioned here 24 hours ago
07:52 Techrights-sec; :(
08:01 schestowitz-TR; do you find my posts about covid-19 informative or am I wasting my time? :D
08:01 schestowitz-TR; that is based on local data, but I noticed the same trend in the US
08:01 Techrights-sec; They're informative, confirming what is suspected, but I assume you are writing
08:01 Techrights-sec; for a much wider audience.
08:01 Techrights-sec; Probably at least a few other countries too
08:18 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> COVID-19 Positivity Rate Soaring in England Even Before October https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/07/september-covid-19-positivity-rate/
08:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive COVID-19 Positivity Rate Soaring in England Even Before October
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08:22 Techrights-sec; So the published data is a month behind, and slipping.
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08:23 schestowitz-TR; better than nothing
08:23 schestowitz-TR; but it seems clear that if frequency was based on urgency/deaths, we should still receive daily updates
08:23 schestowitz-TR; this is a policial decision
08:23 schestowitz-TR; nothing to do with science
08:24 Techrights-sec; Yes, it looks like they are doing their utmost to avoid drawing attention to
08:24 Techrights-sec; the current situation. Certtainly if no current data is available, it is not
08:24 Techrights-sec; even possible to know the current situation.
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08:28 schestowitz-TR; nhs outsourced a lot of the key data not just to OOXML
08:28 schestowitz-TR; but to a Microsoft site that's basically JS
08:28 schestowitz-TR; which is infuriating
08:51 Techrights-sec; That is partially unrelated to SARS-CoV-2, I would say the outsourcing has
08:51 Techrights-sec; more to do with certain political agendas to shut down the national /healthcare/
08:51 Techrights-sec; service and replace it with privatization and "insurance" so that more middlemen
08:51 Techrights-sec; (several layers in fact) can skim off the money without providing any added
08:51 Techrights-sec; value
08:51 schestowitz-TR; wait, am working on a good one
08:51 schestowitz-TR; 5 ODF files
08:52 Techrights-sec; ack
08:52 Techrights-sec; Twenty until fifteen years ago, the benefits of open standards were universally
08:52 Techrights-sec; known and accepted. Furthermore, they were the direction the world was heading
08:52 Techrights-sec; but then everything collapse through the orgy of corruption and lies surrounding
08:52 Techrights-sec; OOXML, which by the way no one uses even today, not even m$ itself.
08:52 Techrights-sec; OOXML has never been fully defined nor actually implemented by *any* company
08:52 Techrights-sec; or organization.
09:03 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> In 2022, to Date, British Deaths Massively Increased Compared to the Prior Year https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/07/uk-death-increases/
09:03 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive In 2022, to Date, British Deaths Massively Increased Compared to the Prior Year
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10:00 schestowitz-TR; bbl aldi
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12:20 Techrights-sec; ack
12:25 schestowitz-TR; it is difficult for me to comment on FB
12:25 schestowitz-TR; rianne was using it when we met
12:25 schestowitz-TR; she stopped ~2 after we met
12:25 schestowitz-TR; ~2 years
12:25 schestowitz-TR; we met in 2011
12:25 schestowitz-TR; I think FB was not AS evil back then
12:25 schestowitz-TR; those sites tend to get MORE malicious over time
12:25 schestowitz-TR; they are BUSINESSES
12:25 schestowitz-TR; YouTube used to be "ok-ish" around 2011
12:25 Techrights-sec; Yes, YouTube was ok even for a few years after the sale.
12:25 Techrights-sec; In recent months it is worse than garbage. It makes even Odysee look ok, and
12:25 Techrights-sec; that takes some work. :(
12:27 schestowitz-TR; both won't work without JS
12:27 schestowitz-TR; but that's just the edge of the iceberg
12:27 schestowitz-TR; I don't have like... a wiki page with list of reasons to avoid them
12:27 schestowitz-TR; it would change over time, hence wiki
12:27 schestowitz-TR; let's just say it is not our foremost priority
12:27 schestowitz-TR; compared, say, to microsoft layoffs
12:27 schestowitz-TR; you said it was in page 1 of startpage
12:27 schestowitz-TR; I rarely use search engines and when I do it's searx.be these days
12:30 schestowitz-TR; fwiw, there are also good reasons to avoid peertube
12:30 schestowitz-TR; and ipfs for video (latency, lag among the downsides)
12:30 schestowitz-TR; self-hosting videos might not be cheap
12:30 schestowitz-TR; but you don't have to tip-toe like john campbell
12:30 schestowitz-TR; he's not a coward, they just blackmail him by saying he would use a decade of much work
12:30 schestowitz-TR; if they can squeeze the trigger on him
12:30 schestowitz-TR; seems like they already decided he needs to go
12:30 schestowitz-TR; they just look for excuses now
12:30 schestowitz-TR; he's "bad for business" (sponsors)
12:35 Techrights-sec; ack
12:42 schestowitz-TR; i keep telling rianne that people she watches in librewolf have a boss called "Google"
12:42 schestowitz-TR; and he's a very vicious and demanding boss
12:42 schestowitz-TR; \
12:42 schestowitz-TR; I last told her this morning
12:42 schestowitz-TR; this boss is never pleased, and he very very very much likes $
12:42 schestowitz-TR; he doesn't even like to pay employees their fair share
12:42 schestowitz-TR; and they cannnot express opinions even outside 'work'
12:42 schestowitz-TR; he also tracks them around with their "smart" phones
12:42 schestowitz-TR; for 'security'
12:42 schestowitz-TR; some years ago a worker who producef exercise videos for sweatshop pay rate entered the boss's office and fired
12:42 schestowitz-TR; at some workers
12:42 schestowitz-TR; but that was before the worse notoriety
12:42 schestowitz-TR; google: if you can just not talk about subject x, that would beeee greaaaaat
12:42 schestowitz-TR; same for use of words
12:42 schestowitz-TR; and how subjects get covered
12:42 schestowitz-TR; later they nitpick on who helped produce the video
12:42 schestowitz-TR; so tarqie and chomsky and chris hedges are "bad" people
12:42 schestowitz-TR; the footage was licensed to RT
12:42 schestowitz-TR; *tariq
12:42 schestowitz-TR; john campbell became a ransomware victim
12:42 schestowitz-TR; he must turn on the camera and tell us "happy stories"
12:42 schestowitz-TR; or all his word AND audience will rm -rf /
12:42 schestowitz-TR; with no chance to appeal, let alone a platform to complain in
12:43 Techrights-sec; ack
15:03 schestowitz-TR; the name "sam varghese" has just been borrowed to issue about half a dozen spamnil-style 'articles'
15:03 schestowitz-TR; and he went along with it
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15:17 Techrights-sec; ack
15:17 Techrights-sec; he seems to be getting ground down
15:17 Techrights-sec; and hopefully not heading towards selling out
15:17 Techrights-sec; I think he is one of the last remaining tech journalists
15:43 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> If only teaching paid more than it does gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/02/11.2
15:53 Techrights-sec; The budgets for teaching have been slashed for decades with the (so far
15:53 Techrights-sec; successful) goal of weakening it.
15:53 Techrights-sec; https://www.theguardian.com/education/2018/oct/05/reagan-nation-at-risk-education-policy-trump-bush
15:53 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theguardian.com | It didn't start with Trump: how America came to undervalue teachers | Education | The Guardian
15:54 schestowitz-TR; they like to say the "left" welcomes immigrants for their vote
15:54 schestowitz-TR; while one party seems to be actively damaging brains in exchange for votes
15:54 schestowitz-TR; that seems to work reasonably well for those who plunder the country
15:54 schestowitz-TR; while at the same time keeping the population dumb, divided, and voting GOP
15:56 Techrights-sec; That is one of the goal, damaged brains and inability to think in order to
15:56 Techrights-sec; harvest uninformed votes based on tribe. Another is to have obedient or
15:56 Techrights-sec; easily manipluated worker drones that will accept terrible working conditions
15:56 Techrights-sec; and terrible pay and without health care, all uncomplainingly
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16:15 schestowitz-TR; need ideas
16:15 schestowitz-TR; reports say vista 11 market share 2.6%
16:16 schestowitz-TR; what can we "add" to that?
16:16 schestowitz-TR; (news slow; too slow even for many TM pages, let alone original articles)
16:17 Techrights-sec; The rate of change is important. That and how long it has been declining for.
16:17 Techrights-sec; Also it is important to point to a way out, even if it is Linux Mint or
16:17 Techrights-sec; PeppermintOS
16:17 Techrights-sec; There are a fair number of blog posts, but they are very slow to process as
16:17 Techrights-sec; is usual. Each writer has their own style so the pith may be anywhere in a
16:17 Techrights-sec; long post.
16:17 Techrights-sec; Vista11 only has any market share at all because of the Wintel duopoly and
16:17 Techrights-sec; the grip (monopoly) has with OEMs.
16:22 Techrights-sec;
16:22 Techrights-sec; If one could go to big box store in your average city and buy off the shelf
16:22 Techrights-sec; a compute with GNU/Linux pre-installed, that'd be the end of Windows
16:22 Techrights-sec; It's almost what happened with the Asus EEE. The GNU/Linux versions flew
16:22 Techrights-sec; off the shelves, but M$ prevented restocking by pressing Asus to stop with
16:22 Techrights-sec; the GNU/Linux version and then people who bought the Windows version mostly
16:22 Techrights-sec; returned them so the m$-owned media helped with the FUD by implying that the
16:22 Techrights-sec; returns were associated with GNU/Linux even though they were due to the
16:22 Techrights-sec; Windows versions.
16:22 Techrights-sec; (don't quote any of that, it's written too poorly)
16:22 Techrights-sec; You have the Asus EEE links somewhere from years ago. I think they might be
16:22 Techrights-sec; ZDNet links even. It's how I recall it, and briefly there were two articles
16:22 Techrights-sec; covering that. How do your recollections differ?
16:23 Techrights-sec; The Asus EEE (linux version) was a very good netbook and quite affordable.
16:23 Techrights-sec; That was another thing, m$ killed the netbook market by constraining the OEMs'
16:23 Techrights-sec; abilities to change the specs.
16:27 schestowitz-TR; this is now how I remember it
16:27 schestowitz-TR; *not how
16:27 schestowitz-TR; we have a wiki page with a list of articles
16:27 schestowitz-TR; head of osi at the time suggested that I document what had happened like this
16:27 schestowitz-TR; there were also microsoftr bribes, negative pricing
16:27 schestowitz-TR; but zemlin and the sunshine boyz thank "our diamong sponsor Microsoft"
16:28 schestowitz-TR; bribes are a crime
16:33 psydruid; I used the Asus EEE with Ubuntu for almost 2 years until the SSD broke
16:33 psydruid; after wiping the useless and outdated Windows XP that came with it
16:34 psydruid; little did they know that killing the netbook market just made people move to phones and tablets
16:34 psydruid; anything to escape Microsoft
16:37 schestowitz-TR; Windows has (had also) many real practical issues
16:37 schestowitz-TR; bloat (higher specs)
16:37 schestowitz-TR; price
16:37 schestowitz-TR; stability
16:37 schestowitz-TR; among others
16:37 schestowitz-TR; you don't hear androiud users saying
16:38 schestowitz-TR; "hang on, I need to reboot first"
16:41 Techrights-sec; m$ has made the superstition of powercycling and or rebooting the generic
16:41 Techrights-sec; ritual response to debugging.
18:26 psydruid; the US has not just been asserting its dominance in terms of software, but also in terms of hardware
18:26 psydruid; now that the cat is out of the bag and a lot more non-US produced hardware is hitting the market, they are crying wolf
18:27 psydruid; and Windows is going into the garbage bin of history along with that hardware that isn't being sold anymore
18:35 schestowitz-TR; OTA
18:35 schestowitz-TR; yes, but they tell us the only alternative is China
18:35 schestowitz-TR; rather than nations making their own systems
18:35 schestowitz-TR; like India and China do with free ISAs
18:35 schestowitz-TR; as if only one nation can be h/w and s/w suppliers
18:36 schestowitz-TR; like clown computing, the "client" model
18:36 schestowitz-TR; it's the mindset of colonialism and parentalism
18:36 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft did this patronising thing to a lot of Africannations
18:36 schestowitz-TR; insinuaint they have no engineers
18:37 schestowitz-TR; and have no charge of doing ICT without Microsoft's help
18:37 schestowitz-TR; they could easily make their own distros and deploy Free sofwtare
18:37 schestowitz-TR; they don't need Microsoft
18:37 schestowitz-TR; I wrote some responses to this a long time ago
18:37 schestowitz-TR; IIRC, in relation to South Africa too
19:21 schestowitz-TR; if all goes as planned, maybe I'll publish the copyright troll's letter in xmas
19:21 schestowitz-TR; draft
19:21 Techrights-sec; checking
19:28 Techrights-sec; The GPL in and of itself is a clever hack of copyright law and has provided
19:28 Techrights-sec; great benefit. LT himself has mentioned many times that very thing and
19:28 Techrights-sec; once, right before he got abused, even stated in a video that it was his best
19:28 Techrights-sec; decision ever to use the GPLv2.
19:28 schestowitz-TR; I will do a later video on uefi secure [sic] boot as gpl evasion
19:28 schestowitz-TR; and github as anti-gpl weapon
19:28 schestowitz-TR; I've just put this in myh notes as next [topic]
19:28 Techrights-sec; Yes, UEFI / restricte boot is a means of license evasion / violation.
19:33 schestowitz-TR; ok, done eating for today (still finding discounts)
19:33 schestowitz-TR; will clean rss fees
19:33 schestowitz-TR; btw, john cambell is tring to spin very bad news as OK or even good news
19:33 schestowitz-TR; I guess the boss (Google) wants some positive tone
19:33 schestowitz-TR; the clients (advertisers, not HIS) assess the platform for 'accuracy' (cnsistency with the PR)
19:42 Techrights-sec; ack
19:59 Techrights-sec; Serious question: what would it take for FSF, EFF, and OSI to make any kind
19:59 Techrights-sec; of campaign, big or small, to counter Vista12 together?
20:00 schestowitz-TR; they are not goign to collaborate
20:00 schestowitz-TR; eff is to busy promoting shit
20:00 schestowitz-TR; osi is fighting SF
20:00 schestowitz-TR; and FSF is too afriad to speak out against anything
20:00 Techrights-sec; right, negative answers aside, what obstacles could be removed, if the
20:00 Techrights-sec; situation were more favorable?
20:04 schestowitz-TR; i don't know internal politics, but from what I heard (phipps, lxo etc.) there is a coup and they don't have the power to push it back anymore
20:04 schestowitz-TR; and they concedes, which was a mistake
20:04 schestowitz-TR; they even did to rms agsinst us (not succefully) what trolls do against dfc
20:04 schestowitz-TR; it's just boring ol divide and rule
20:04 schestowitz-TR; identify or interject some politics people don't agree on
20:04 schestowitz-TR; then cause strife
20:04 schestowitz-TR; i'd like to think we're not gullible enough to ever fall for it
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20:45 Techrights-sec; ack
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23:18 schestowitz-TR; our eye on the friendman leads to various other potential scandal
23:18 schestowitz-TR; I think we have a network of leaks and whispers now
23:18 schestowitz-TR; to last for a long time
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