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07:54 schestowitz-TR; my judgment is not clouded by the fact that I left is; social control media had waned even before that, not sure how many years
07:54 schestowitz-TR; or maybe just months. I reckon in a few years many of us will sort of forget it ever existed, and we won't care about
07:54 schestowitz-TR; some past "tweets"; Trumo's have not existed for 16 months already, maybe 18 months
07:54 schestowitz-TR; figosdev said the same about fediverse and diaspora yesterday in IRC
07:54 schestowitz-TR; at one point it did matter a bit
07:54 Techrights-sec; ack
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08:02 Techrights-sec; ack
08:02 Techrights-sec; I presume your meeting will be online during normal working hours?
08:02 schestowitz-TR; today is my last shift until AFTER an important meeting where decisions might be almost finalised
08:02 schestowitz-TR; it would be nice to go back to 2 or, at most, 3 nights per week
08:02 schestowitz-TR; 2 nights in a row, than 5 free
08:02 schestowitz-TR; the way it was 2011-2013
08:02 schestowitz-TR; savings are nice, but we only live once (sans all the "transhumanism" crap)
08:02 Techrights-sec; I presume your meeting will be online during normal working hours?
08:04 schestowitz-TR; yes, we will be paid for the time too, they say...
08:04 schestowitz-TR; this represents an issue only to those who depend on the job to pay some obscene rents
08:05 schestowitz-TR; moving away completely would be risky, so limiting to the extent that is reasonable is something I wanted to do
08:05 schestowitz-TR; for years. This year we thought about leaving completely, rianne is still checking all sorts of things
08:11 Techrights-sec; ack
08:11 Techrights-sec; it pays to plan carefully, I would think
08:15 schestowitz-TR; I've always planned ahead carefully ans asked around, more than most people do
08:15 schestowitz-TR; esp. when I reached important forks on the road, like when I had a London job offer but also phd offers
08:15 schestowitz-TR; academa became disgusting in recent decades for a lot of reasons (not what the media likes to focus on)
08:15 schestowitz-TR; so parking there in 2022 isn't the same as in 1952
08:15 schestowitz-TR; I suspect "digital vegan" can tell you a lot more than I can
08:15 schestowitz-TR; but he does not need to as you were there too
08:15 schestowitz-TR; the next appalling hase might be, lecturers need to wear uniform with logos of the companies that
08:15 schestowitz-TR; "support" their labs and fund the "research" (marketing)
09:48 Techrights-sec; yes academia has been set on its head, it should return to leading advancement
09:48 Techrights-sec; rather than serving as a funder for incubators and startups or say-for-pay
09:48 Techrights-sec; consulting
09:48 Techrights-sec; Universities have allowed M$ to abuse the funding situation for ovef a decade
09:48 Techrights-sec; now. They throw some chump change at a desperate department in exchange for
09:48 Techrights-sec; 1) deploying m$ products and excluding useful technology, 2) slapping the
09:48 Techrights-sec; name "Microsoft Research" onto the resulting journal articles.
09:49 Techrights-sec; Their research is merely rebranded marketing. It's similar to ~ 20 years
09:49 Techrights-sec; ago when the SEC filings showed that their largest line item in the budget
09:49 Techrights-sec; was marketing. The world laughed and M$ shuffled the money around while only
09:49 Techrights-sec; doubling down on the stupidity.
09:52 Techrights-sec; Looking at PDFs generated by the USDA, which appear quite broken if one
09:52 Techrights-sec; actually needs to print. The culprit seems to be that false PDFs are generated
09:52 Techrights-sec; by Aspose.Pdf for .NET 8.4.0 and M$ Word
09:53 schestowitz-TR; I can imagine USDA is parly in the pockets of Epstein's secret best buddy
10:10 Techrights-sec; I exxpect so. People are fooled by tacking a .pdf onto the file name, it's not
10:10 Techrights-sec; a PDF and does not work with normal printers. However, it is /still/ for the
10:10 Techrights-sec; time being possible to convert to PostScript and send that and get a viable
10:10 Techrights-sec; result most of the time.
10:40 schestowitz-TR; how do we calssify this
10:40 schestowitz-TR; and how do we best tackle it?
10:40 schestowitz-TR; (serious question)
10:40 schestowitz-TR; we might need to make an invesntory of issues, group the, then put together strategy
10:40 schestowitz-TR; and get others to go along
10:40 schestowitz-TR; that would work if we can get enough people working along the same lines
10:40 schestowitz-TR; btw, i am increasingly convinced jperlow fell on his sword
10:40 schestowitz-TR; maybe our criticism played a role
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10:55 Techrights-sec; I'm not sure about how to tackle government corruption, society just seems to
10:55 Techrights-sec; accept it as a neccessary reality.
11:00 schestowitz-TR; you told me Louis Rozemann (pardom spelling) is being gaslit by gulagtube already
11:00 schestowitz-TR; afaik, it is his primary presence online
11:00 schestowitz-TR; that's like getting the carpet pulled from undernatgh your feet
11:00 schestowitz-TR; spamnil's videos got so poor (low number of views) that he's putting his whole account at risk
11:00 schestowitz-TR; (as I type this just read the link about gulag havign to pay a small fortune for defamation in gulagtube
11:00 schestowitz-TR; it's a toxic asset of sorts... they want to play "safe")
11:00 schestowitz-TR; YouTube "communityt guidlines" = ever-changing CoC. If you don't accept the changes, you are locked out.
11:00 schestowitz-TR; implied "consent"
11:00 Techrights-sec; I'm not sure about how to tackle government corruption, society just seems to
11:00 Techrights-sec; accept it as a neccessary reality. It's probably a combination of both
11:00 Techrights-sec; incompetence *and* malice on the part of M$ but inside the USDA is is probably
11:00 Techrights-sec; a combination of corruption, malicee, *and* negligence.
11:00 Techrights-sec; Louis Rossmann just did a video covering US government corruption and the
11:00 Techrights-sec; fact that the structure of the voting process entrenches it.
11:00 Techrights-sec; https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/a-word-on-why-exposing-corruption:f
11:00 Techrights-sec; ack
11:00 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Resolving timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/a-word-on-why-exposing-corruption:f )
11:01 Techrights-sec; s/implied/forced/
11:01 Techrights-sec; See the "Schrems II" case on that
11:05 schestowitz-TR; yes, this is where I borrowed the term from, or rather it was inspired by some url to that effect
11:05 schestowitz-TR; there are many examples of this in society
11:05 schestowitz-TR; like me "consenting" to cctv in the food store
11:05 schestowitz-TR; by virtue of entering it
11:05 schestowitz-TR; there is somne small sign near the door, I think
11:05 schestowitz-TR; I could reject that and starve
11:09 Techrights-sec; old, but ongoing: https://noyb.eu/en/project/forced-consent-dpas-austria-belgium-france-germany-and-ireland
11:09 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Forced Consent (DPAs in Austria, Belgium, France, Germany and Ireland) | noyb.eu
11:11 schestowitz-TR; it is a form of hostage dilemma
11:11 schestowitz-TR; without me even spying what the hostage is ("friends", data, access to employment etc.)
11:11 schestowitz-TR; if I called it slavery it would ruffle some feathers
11:17 schestowitz-TR; note to self
11:17 schestowitz-TR; many people and families drowned in 2000
11:17 schestowitz-TR; then 2008
11:17 schestowitz-TR; then corona!kraine!whatsNext
11:17 schestowitz-TR; they then blame the workers
11:17 schestowitz-TR; I really loathe this "great resignation" BS
11:17 schestowitz-TR; I see many companies announcing layoffs
11:18 schestowitz-TR; not many people leaving in droves
11:18 schestowitz-TR; but the media is owned by those who do the layoffs
11:18 schestowitz-TR; and some of them use "reisgnation" canard to push "skill shortage"
11:18 schestowitz-TR; code word for outsourcing or cost-cutting
11:18 schestowitz-TR; I think we're in for profound change, not that we've seen none these past 2 years
11:18 schestowitz-TR; in 2008 my dad lost all his money
11:18 schestowitz-TR; it finished him
11:18 schestowitz-TR; some managed to get past that point but are barely surviving now
11:18 schestowitz-TR; hence my dad was apprehensive when my sister told (snitched) him about my plans
11:18 schestowitz-TR; some siblings work like horses, way beyond 40hours/week
11:19 Techrights-sec; ack
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11:21 schestowitz-TR; it was around that time I even started sending my dad money each money, which he appreciated
11:21 schestowitz-TR; even his cousin helped him
11:21 schestowitz-TR; and helped my grandpa
11:21 schestowitz-TR; that was just a warm-up compared to 2019-[not finished]
11:21 schestowitz-TR; because the underlying issues of 2008 were never tackled AT ALL
11:21 schestowitz-TR; OWS got crushed
11:21 schestowitz-TR; and we're meant to embrace temporarily amnesia
11:23 Techrights-sec; nor were the underlying issues from 2000- Although the dotcom bubble burst
11:23 Techrights-sec; the main conditions underneath were never addressed even after Enron
11:23 Techrights-sec; The economic collapse has been built up all that time rather than mitigated
11:23 Techrights-sec; so when things can no longer be propped up and the public is no longer fooled
11:23 Techrights-sec; by fraud and misdirection, it will fall down -- hard
11:23 schestowitz-TR; there are 2 things:
11:23 schestowitz-TR; a) skills
11:23 schestowitz-TR; b) savings
11:23 schestowitz-TR; with (a) you can replenish (b)
11:23 schestowitz-TR; the problem is when you resort to drugs and self-neglect
11:24 Techrights-sec; I figure there is more control over inflation that what is let on and that
11:24 Techrights-sec; it is grown at this point to ensure that even those who have saved lose their
11:24 Techrights-sec; money and will dance to the music.
11:28 schestowitz-TR; the salaries have not grown proportionally (at EPO, 'public' sector, 0% while inflation is 12%)
11:28 schestowitz-TR; so that in effetc means severe pay cuts
11:28 schestowitz-TR; maybe they can 'race down the yuan'
11:28 schestowitz-TR; and find a way to make out pay equitable in the "lucrative" parts of mainland china
11:28 schestowitz-TR; (even china is outsourcing to cheap labourers abroad)
11:28 schestowitz-TR; so iow, to make up for capital deficits the renumerations are altered and with enough crises (nobody talks about
11:28 schestowitz-TR; the mortgage crisis; just those "external" ones) they can manufacture consent
11:28 schestowitz-TR; "blame china/nature" "blame russia" next they will blame lazy/spoiled "great resignation" workjers
11:28 schestowitz-TR; but never wall street and london speculators
11:28 Techrights-sec; ack
11:31 schestowitz-TR; watch out for this: like in the "developing" (exploited) "world" (nations), parents will increasingly view their
11:31 schestowitz-TR; kids
11:31 schestowitz-TR; as providers ore insurance policies
11:31 schestowitz-TR; it used to be the opp., esp. with inheritance being a clocked jackpot
11:31 schestowitz-TR; but pensions are not keeping up with expenditure
11:31 schestowitz-TR; and this will cause a lot of misery
11:31 schestowitz-TR; I think that subconsciously this is why my dad all along opposed me reducing my hours and why he taught the "others"
11:31 schestowitz-TR; to work above and beyond (to stand out)
11:35 schestowitz-TR; [personal: mom told me last week she might soon put the house on sale to free up some cash at hand; she lost a lot
11:35 schestowitz-TR; due to "the market"]
11:35 schestowitz-TR; "developing" "world" 1972: have kids, they can help you with the farm/business
11:35 schestowitz-TR; "depeloped" nations 1972: kids are expensive
11:35 schestowitz-TR; "developing" "world" 2022: don't have kids, wheat is expensive, russia uses it as "weapon" (billBC this week)
11:35 schestowitz-TR; "depeloped" nations 2022: maybe have some kids, they can shelter you when you are out of work or retired
11:35 Techrights-sec; yes
11:35 Techrights-sec; ack
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11:38 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: ^^
11:38 schestowitz-TR; about your mom
11:39 schestowitz-TR; rianne's mom took a second job just now, as rent is hiked by about 50%
11:39 schestowitz-TR; and the new job pays like 3 times less
11:39 schestowitz-TR; oops
11:39 schestowitz-TR; not rianne's
11:39 schestowitz-TR; RYAN'S
11:39 schestowitz-TR; US has a long tradition of working several jobs to make ends meet
11:39 schestowitz-TR; his mom must be about 60
11:39 schestowitz-TR; they also bilked her out of her pension
11:39 schestowitz-TR; (the church)
11:39 schestowitz-TR; I assume she is a nurse in something connected to the church in IN
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11:41 DaemonFC; Yeah, a Catholic retirement home.
11:41 Techrights-sec; The workers' wages are trimmed to keep the workers broken and desperate and
11:41 Techrights-sec; thus compliant and without time to organize or push back. It also distracts
11:41 Techrights-sec; from the destination for the money: the pockets of a very few executives and
11:41 Techrights-sec; a handful of "investors".
11:41 DaemonFC; Now she's trying to retire and draw the pension while still working part time like they said she could and they're getting squirrely about whether they'll actually allow it.
11:42 Techrights-sec; ack
11:42 Techrights-sec; the Catholic Church is a large political entity with a lot of money; the
11:42 Techrights-sec; Mormon "Church" is even worse.
11:42 DaemonFC; They don't actually want her there and it's because she's been around so long she costs them about $9 an hour more than some nurse they get fresh out of school.
11:43 Techrights-sec; One of the reasons for Northern Europe, Scandinavia in particular, taking
11:43 Techrights-sec; part in the Reformation so quickly was the ability to confiscate the
11:43 Techrights-sec; holdings which were on par or exceeding those of the monarchy.
11:43 DaemonFC; They've had a lot of incompetent and embezzling administrators.
11:44 DaemonFC; Now they take it out on the people who actually work.
11:45 DaemonFC; Her ex husband worked there and hurt his back away from the job and then claimed it was a workplace accident to get them to pay for his back surgery.
11:45 DaemonFC; He went to lift a television and went "OWWWWW!".
11:45 DaemonFC; They couldn't prove where the accident happened so he got away with doing that.
11:46 Techrights-sec; These were
11:46 Techrights-sec; then reapportioned internally to both buy domestic alliances and externally
11:46 Techrights-sec; to finance endless wars. The pushback against the wars and against the
11:46 Techrights-sec; lack of transparency and accountability came in 1776 when the power shifted
11:46 Techrights-sec; and the parties which had been locked out and kept in the dark wrote
11:46 Techrights-sec; freedom of infromation into the Swedish constitution. However, since the late
11:46 DaemonFC; With all of those idiots they had managing the place, that was a drop in the bucket I guess.
11:46 Techrights-sec; 1990 privatization has been a way to circumvent that constitutional obligation.
11:47 DaemonFC; He didn't admit that until years later.
11:49 DaemonFC; He was always buying junk. schestowitz-TR I mean, not like a Bose radio. If he did buy a Bose radio he'd get one that didn't work and say "I'll fix that." and then sit it somewhere and never fix it, and it wouldn't even be a side project that ever got done, and he'd pay $200 for it.
11:50 DaemonFC; That's how he did her with things like that rusted out old lawnmower he paid almost $300 for and then it sat there and kept rusting.
11:50 DaemonFC; While their gas is being turned off.
11:50 DaemonFC; Water, car insurance...
11:51 Techrights-sec; If any group claiming to be a religion crosses the line and becomes active in
11:51 Techrights-sec; national politics they should have their status revoked and be treated
11:51 Techrights-sec; as a political movement instead, that applies to both Catholocism and islamism
11:51 Techrights-sec; anyway speaking of status as a religion this is too much of a digression from
11:51 Techrights-sec; the spread of microsoftianism within the US public sector. That crap just does
11:51 Techrights-sec; not work, yet even in the face of it not working, insiders still keep deploying
11:51 Techrights-sec; it.
11:53 schestowitz-TR; I think that, over time, there will be fewer such deployments and "clown" is Micrsofot's attempt to also own,
11:53 schestowitz-TR; control, and tame what's not its own
11:53 schestowitz-TR; then corrupt officials into buying "clown"
11:53 schestowitz-TR; and pay rents to Microsoft
11:53 schestowitz-TR; for things that Microsoft is still attacking, not just with patents
11:53 schestowitz-TR; Amazon exploits these differently, as does Gulag
11:53 schestowitz-TR; Gulag and Amazon and Microsoft... exploiting differently
11:53 schestowitz-TR; Apple also quite differently
11:54 schestowitz-TR; because their main "products" and "services" or "cash cows" are not the same
11:54 DaemonFC; I mean, if you can actually fix things and are handy and buy things cheap, then sometimes it's worth going for.
11:54 schestowitz-TR; things do not last long anymore
11:54 schestowitz-TR; IME
11:54 schestowitz-TR; it's still getting worse
11:54 schestowitz-TR; people want to buy cheap
11:54 schestowitz-TR; so they make it cheap
11:55 schestowitz-TR; with the worst possible components
11:55 schestowitz-TR; this means
11:55 DaemonFC; But getting a rusty lawnmower that doesn't work and needs a new engine and new blades and an evening being sanded down and repainted, and you pay 65% of what a new riding lawnmower costs.... Then never fix it.
11:55 schestowitz-TR; 1) repairs cost more than new
11:55 DaemonFC; That's just stupid.
11:55 schestowitz-TR; 2) they don't last long
11:55 schestowitz-TR; iow, you're racing towards industry of 'disposabl;es'
11:56 schestowitz-TR; I refuse to buy any more electric kettles
11:56 schestowitz-TR; you buy even a decent brand and it lasts one year
11:56 schestowitz-TR; I don't fancy feeling like I'm 'renting' a kettle on an annual basis
11:56 DaemonFC; If he got it for 10% of what a new one costs and an engine rebuild kit, and some paint and sandpaper and new blades and ended up with one that ran okay and cost him 35% of a new one, that would have been a deal.
11:56 schestowitz-TR; and wasting like 100+ dollars every 5 years
11:57 DaemonFC; He had boxes from ebay showing up with chains in them.
11:57 DaemonFC; Then he threw the chains in a corner and never took them out of the box.
11:57 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR> I don't fancy feeling like I'm 'renting' a kettle on an annual basis
11:57 DaemonFC; You can heat water in a microwave.
11:57 schestowitz-TR; I use the hob now
11:57 schestowitz-TR; "stove" in US
11:58 schestowitz-TR; it took me time to get used to it
11:58 schestowitz-TR; inc. the timer on the hob
11:58 schestowitz-TR; and how many mins for what amount and level
11:58 DaemonFC; Yeah, I used a whistling stovetop kettle for years.
11:58 schestowitz-TR; electric showers the same
11:58 DaemonFC; How many minutes?
11:58 schestowitz-TR; ours broke down less than a year after moving in
11:58 DaemonFC; It whistles when the water is ready!
11:58 schestowitz-TR; so I replaced that with the boiler
11:59 schestowitz-TR; they don 't repair the electric shower
11:59 schestowitz-TR; they want to sell the same unit again
11:59 schestowitz-TR; with all the same components, which could instead be reused
11:59 schestowitz-TR; and fitting needs an electrician
11:59 DaemonFC; Yeah, if the landlord had any sense he'd just pony up the dough and get a tankless water heater for the building.
11:59 Techrights-sec; ack
11:59 DaemonFC; It's a one time expense and no cost to store a ton of hot water in a tank that sits there and rusts out and needs flushing.
12:00 DaemonFC; If you get a traditional water heater, you need to wrap it in one hell of an insulation blanket.
12:00 DaemonFC; And don't cheap out on it.
12:00 DaemonFC; You can get your cost of running it down by 40-50% by wrapping it with a good water heater blanket.
12:01 DaemonFC; But many people don't do that and then bitch about their electric or gas bills.
12:01 schestowitz-TR; more modern boilers can heat up water "on demand"
12:01 schestowitz-TR; and reach temps like 50 degrees
12:01 schestowitz-TR; depending on initial temp and rate of flow
12:01 schestowitz-TR; when I grew up we'd have to heat up the whole boiler hours in advance
12:01 schestowitz-TR; and it could "run out" of hot water
12:02 DaemonFC; If there was something I could do to my car for $40 that doubled the gas mileage, I would!
12:02 schestowitz-TR; here we have undeerground gas pipes
12:02 Techrights-sec; ack
12:02 Techrights-sec; did you have time to check the short Rossmann video above?
12:02 DaemonFC; Rossman video?
12:02 schestowitz-TR; I have not even clicked on it, many links today
12:02 schestowitz-TR; slow news in RSS, but it's good to have that compansated for
12:02 schestowitz-TR; I'll check the video now
12:02 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: yes
12:03 schestowitz-TR; , hang on
12:03 DaemonFC; I didn't see the link.
12:03 DaemonFC; About "developed" countries....
12:03 schestowitz-TR; "A word on why exposing corruption doesn't matter" https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/a-word-on-why-exposing-corruption:f
12:03 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | A word on why exposing corruption doesn't matter
12:03 Techrights-sec; ok
12:03 DaemonFC; I think that's code for "stopped growing a long time ago. Termite infested economy.".
12:03 DaemonFC; "Here's a queen that does nothing to wave at football."
12:06 DaemonFC; Here's Boris with a bill to arrest homeless and throw "boat people" back in the Channel.
12:10 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, The Right to Repair laws at the state level concern these companies because they'll have to design products that comply with all of them or start being unable to sell into certain states for certain reasons based on certain parts of certain bills.
12:10 DaemonFC; They want a very weak federal law that stops states from doing something better.
12:10 DaemonFC; Like the CAN-SPAM Act.
12:10 schestowitz-TR; watching now (btw, falkon struggles with lbry)
12:10 schestowitz-TR; so another thing not to like about this oddball protocol
12:10 schestowitz-TR; I think that
12:10 schestowitz-TR; a) it used to work OK
12:10 schestowitz-TR; or
12:10 schestowitz-TR; b) sometimes it works, sometimes now
12:10 schestowitz-TR; if not, I use librewolf
12:10 schestowitz-TR; he speaks of "reddit"
12:10 schestowitz-TR; not a good place to read
12:10 schestowitz-TR; it makes my blood boil sometimes
12:10 schestowitz-TR; because of their social engineering
12:10 schestowitz-TR; "token dissent" -digital vegan
12:10 schestowitz-TR; ok, that reminds me of epo
12:10 schestowitz-TR; write 5000 articles exposing corruption
12:10 schestowitz-TR; "crickets"
12:10 schestowitz-TR; at&t lobbyists
12:10 schestowitz-TR; corporate money
12:10 schestowitz-TR; like epo
12:13 schestowitz-TR; i like his mention of identity politics (epo uses perception of "unity" or "EU!") and spontaneous, unedited webcam
12:13 DaemonFC; "Hochul said the purchase of body armor will be banned, except for those in law enforcement or in professions that could put them in danger."
12:13 DaemonFC; Body armor isn't restricted in most states.
12:13 DaemonFC; People can just buy it there and take it to New York.
12:14 schestowitz-TR; this is a uniquely us issue
12:14 schestowitz-TR; [09:07] <techrights-news> "Motor vehicle traffic deaths 40,698; All firearm death 45,222" https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm
12:14 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cdc.gov | FastStats - Injuries
12:14 DaemonFC; You can wear body armor in Illinois, but if you wear it while you're committing a crime, it's another offense.
12:15 DaemonFC; Crime being violent crime where you're wearing it so that the police have a harder time shooting you.
12:16 DaemonFC; To all those drunk with power who think that they will challenge these laws, James said. The Second Amendment is not absolute.
12:17 DaemonFC; Yeah, they're passing more laws when their biggest one, the one against the right to conceal and carry, is about to be struck down in a month or two.
12:17 DaemonFC; The rest are going to go.
12:17 DaemonFC; They'll be able to enforce them for months, maybe.
12:18 schestowitz-TR; millions in us have these fantasies
12:18 schestowitz-TR; or delusions of grandeur
12:18 schestowitz-TR; wherein they take on the gov.
12:18 schestowitz-TR; with fifles
12:18 schestowitz-TR; and then "take over" or somthing
12:18 schestowitz-TR; like some armed militia would be an improvement over what exists now
12:19 schestowitz-TR; this is why the us gov. STILL has some consent from most of the people
12:19 schestowitz-TR; who view it as "lesser evil"
12:19 schestowitz-TR; and oppose insurrection
12:25 schestowitz-TR; Techrights-sec: I've put the top500 link you sent under "Science" as I saw no connection to patent and assumed human error
12:26 Techrights-sec; reddit is a disinformation / propaganda medium
12:26 Techrights-sec; controlled by microsofters to prevent and discourage ICT growth
12:26 Techrights-sec; thanks that was an error
12:27 schestowitz-TR; I wonder if rossmann explained how he chooses topic
12:27 schestowitz-TR; some linus vloggers mentioned "reddi" x-/
12:27 schestowitz-TR; to avoid repetition you always need to chase topics
12:27 schestowitz-TR; and ones you cannot address in one sentence
12:29 Techrights-sec; the illusion of topics is deceptive, since the microsofters there quickly
12:29 Techrights-sec; suppress any off-message discussion.
12:29 Techrights-sec; ack
12:31 schestowitz-TR; I am kicking myself trying to recall what it is that last night I thought, "i could respond to this" before
12:31 schestowitz-TR; accepting that one "Ed" comment can cover it all, no need for a video
12:31 schestowitz-TR; but there are always things like these
12:31 schestowitz-TR; they come and go
12:31 schestowitz-TR; it really does not matter what it was (that I forgot)
12:31 schestowitz-TR; because I already responded to it in text
12:31 schestowitz-TR; and later rejected the idea of it meriting a video
12:31 schestowitz-TR; I'm GLAD to know that Rossmann is being suppresse in gulagtube, if only just the schafufrunde or
12:31 schestowitz-TR; however that's spelled (I'll never remember)
12:31 schestowitz-TR; youtube is good for shit videos or fart videos
12:31 schestowitz-TR; not literally
12:31 schestowitz-TR; those are not too controversial
12:31 Techrights-sec; I'm not but I am relieved that he is aware of it though at the moment he
12:31 Techrights-sec; might not be aware of how widespread it is and how it is used to manipulate
12:31 Techrights-sec; and steer public opinion
12:31 Techrights-sec; perhaps but LBRY won't last long IMO
12:33 DaemonFC; Whether or not they think that the US Supreme Court is "drunk with power", it does tell New York what its laws are.
12:33 DaemonFC; Pretty much the only thing these new laws will do is cost money to defend and get struck down.
12:33 schestowitz-TR; heh. lbry ALREADY vanished
12:33 schestowitz-TR; and became not a site
12:33 schestowitz-TR; but protocoll
12:33 DaemonFC; The Illinois FOID Act is on borrowed time.
12:33 schestowitz-TR; iirc, due to some sec probe
12:33 schestowitz-TR; at first I thought it was about the decentrlised nature
12:33 schestowitz-TR; later I realised it's because they recruit "creators" on the condition of inflating
12:33 schestowitz-TR; their 'crypto'scam
12:33 DaemonFC; Wait for the Supreme Court decision on Conceal and Carry. If they say it's a right that doesn't require a permit, what does Illinois do?
12:34 DaemonFC; Back down.
12:34 DaemonFC; And crime won't go up if they do that.
12:34 DaemonFC; The people who shouldn't have them and don't have a permit just buy them and carry them anyway.
12:34 DaemonFC; And if they get arrested for it, it's because that's on top of the million other things they have a record for since they turned 18.
12:35 Techrights-sec; LBRY is the protocol
12:35 Techrights-sec; anyway I have my doubts about its technical viability in the long run
12:35 Techrights-sec; the scam is the main payload the videos are just there as a loss leader
12:35 Techrights-sec; cryptocurrency as it exists to day is a scam and at the same time an egregious
12:35 Techrights-sec; waste of electicity and CPU time
12:35 DaemonFC; This is why gun laws don't work. "You murdered some people and we're sending you to prison, but you violated the conceal and carry law so here's 2 years on top of the life sentence.".
12:36 DaemonFC; The law only scares people who don't want to be in trouble for ANYTHING, like me.
12:37 DaemonFC; It does nothing to scare people who are like, you know, in trouble whenever they're out of jail briefly anyway and go "Fuck you pig! Blam blam blam!" with the gun that the law said they couldn't have.
12:37 DaemonFC; It's like restraining orders. People get them and it's an absolute joke.
12:38 DaemonFC; "I believe this person is going to kill me. Please serve them with a document that enrages them and tells them everywhere I'll be so they'll commit a misdemeanor when they come to kill me."
12:38 schestowitz-TR; videeos are expensive to stgore and deliver
12:38 schestowitz-TR; the more popular they become, the more expensive
12:38 schestowitz-TR; i keep good backups of all the raws and finals
12:38 schestowitz-TR; those are not too expensive to store on multiple devices
12:38 schestowitz-TR; but atm I rely on the generocity of kaniini
12:38 schestowitz-TR; I have a rough estimate of hosting w/ TB-level BW
12:38 schestowitz-TR; the cost is very high
12:38 schestowitz-TR; I've not yet found a SOLID topic for video
12:38 schestowitz-TR; and "THIS IS FINE!"
12:38 schestowitz-TR; I don't have patreon
12:38 schestowitz-TR; rianne always jokes about larabel,
12:38 schestowitz-TR; being mandated to keep up to some quotas
12:38 schestowitz-TR; which she says she does not have in tuxmachines
12:39 schestowitz-TR; she has been spending dozens of hours per week researching recipes
12:39 schestowitz-TR; and experimenting a lot in the kitchen
12:39 schestowitz-TR; tuxmachines
12:39 schestowitz-TR; is doing OK, about 50 nodes per day, despite "slow" news
12:39 schestowitz-TR; we got more creative
12:39 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: the law does not protect
12:39 schestowitz-TR; from those who don't obey the law
12:39 schestowitz-TR; like CCTV does not prevent crime
12:39 schestowitz-TR; it might help convict the per
12:39 schestowitz-TR; IF you catch the person
12:39 schestowitz-TR; IFa
12:39 schestowitz-TR; and then prevent repetition
12:39 DaemonFC; It's not like people who want to break the law have any self-control whatsoever.
12:39 DaemonFC; If they did, they'd take basic measures to not be caught.
12:39 schestowitz-TR; galvinised society has no respect
12:40 DaemonFC; Or figure out some way to do the same awful thing, but which is entirely legal.
12:41 DaemonFC; This country is so screwed up that even when you can tell the police "The bad guys are right THERE!" more than half the time they don't do anything about it.
12:41 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "Yes, the gun lobby and weapons manufacturers fuel the violence with easily available assault-style weapons" https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/06/hedges-americas-gun-fetish/ | <techrights-news> "Yes, the gun lobby and weapons manufacturers fuel the violence with easily available assault-style weapons" https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/06/hedges-americas-gun-fetish/ | Source: ScheerpostSource: Scheerpost
12:41 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Hedges: Americas Gun Fetish scheerpost.com
12:42 Techrights-sec; ack
12:46 schestowitz-TR; there is no "easy fix" or longterm solution to the video conumdrum
12:46 schestowitz-TR; videos are big
12:46 schestowitz-TR; they are expensive
12:46 schestowitz-TR; MSM used to be partly done on taxpayer payroll
12:46 schestowitz-TR; to create a sense of national unity
12:46 schestowitz-TR; which I do not oppose
12:46 schestowitz-TR; the problem is, billg et al buying the media
12:46 schestowitz-TR; even when taxpayers still pay for it
12:46 schestowitz-TR; with or without ads or brainwash for revenue/justification
12:46 schestowitz-TR; my uncle in FL still sends me small videos over email
12:46 schestowitz-TR; hollywood economics have been failing in recent years
12:46 schestowitz-TR; hardly any "big budget" films
12:46 schestowitz-TR; maybe they too should ask for "defense" bailout
12:47 DaemonFC; Traditional reporting was more or less fact-based and politically neutral.
12:47 Techrights-sec; ack
12:47 Techrights-sec; national unity is an admirable purpose if done impartially and based on
12:47 Techrights-sec; empirical observable facts
12:47 Techrights-sec; Maybe are divested from reality so unlike in decades past were people disagreed
12:47 Techrights-sec; on interpretation of the facts there is no common base on which to even found
12:47 Techrights-sec; a dialog since one or more parties are detatched from reality.
12:47 Techrights-sec; Films mostly suck since 1999 or so, when Hollywood started kowtowing to CCP
12:47 DaemonFC; Now you have Fox and CNN, and CNN is stuck talking about Trump every day.
12:47 DaemonFC; Like, the same stories every day reworded a little about something that happened 2-3 years ago.
12:47 DaemonFC; THey really want to save Biden I guess.
12:48 DaemonFC; I don't think anything they do will be enough to distract from gas that costs 3x as much.
12:48 DaemonFC; It went up to $5.89 this morning. I pulled over and topped up at the Murphy for $5.34 because it usually takes them another day to catch up with everyone else.
12:49 DaemonFC; If you see gas going down, fill up somewhere else, if you see it going up, go to Murphy, is the usual rule.
12:49 schestowitz-TR; we've not gone "to the movies" since 2018 or 2019 (last of Planet o the Apes)
12:49 schestowitz-TR; we did, however, eat popcorn at home and rianne bought a machine that makes it fast
12:49 DaemonFC; A microwave?
12:49 DaemonFC; :)
12:49 Techrights-sec; A defense bailout would be as relevant there, perhaps more so, than for M$
12:49 Techrights-sec; I'm shocked that Trump has avoided prosecution for sedition among other things
12:49 Techrights-sec; but that is off topic
12:49 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: no
12:49 schestowitz-TR; another toy
12:50 DaemonFC; Filling the house with crap during a recession?
12:50 schestowitz-TR; rare exception
12:50 DaemonFC; I too like to live dangerously. *arches eyebrow*
12:50 schestowitz-TR; not my idea
12:51 DaemonFC; The "news" keeps saying "if" there is a recession "later".
12:51 DaemonFC; Like, it's possible for gas to be $6 a gallon and not have one going on right now.
12:51 Techrights-sec; I'm still puzzling over how society can counter the problems of microsoftianism
12:51 Techrights-sec; as found in the USDA and USPTO and etc
12:51 DaemonFC; A smart CEO would let everyone who can work from home.
12:52 Techrights-sec; The damage caused by their substandard, insufficient products is real and
12:52 Techrights-sec; far from insignificant when taken at scale.
12:52 DaemonFC; If they don't need child care and gas for the car and shit, and can move out of California, they'll probably gladly take a pay cut of some kind, or at least not expect huge raises for a while.
12:53 DaemonFC; And if there are no raises coming and people see their standard of living crater, you have another problem. Low morale = low productivity.
12:53 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I suppose I wasn't cut out for management in a large company because the way I see it is when employees have a problem, the company has a problem.
12:54 DaemonFC; We need to be doing enough to keep the employees at least this happy to make sure we're getting an optimal amount of productivity for our employment expense, etc.
12:55 DaemonFC; Sometimes that means a decent raise, sometimes it means encouraging them to take a vacation and go do something away for a while, doesn't have to be expensive.
12:55 DaemonFC; Maybe they take some days off and go camping or fishing or hiking, which don't cost a lot of money, but it does great things for the mind.
12:56 DaemonFC; An overencumbered mind leads to burnout, which leads to lower productivity.
12:57 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Walmart got a blurb about "job creation" into WGN, probably others.
12:57 DaemonFC; They say they want to open four new warehouses with order picking robots.
12:57 DaemonFC; "creating jobs"
12:58 DaemonFC; Like robots create jobs. They exist so you don't have to create jobs. You have a workforce that doesn't eat, doesn't sleep, doesn't have family problems going on, doesn't take sick days, and no paychecks.
12:58 DaemonFC; "job creators"
12:59 DaemonFC; My uncle said that nobody takes sick days when they're sick.
12:59 schestowitz-TR; the innovation has not been happening where their products exist
12:59 schestowitz-TR; neither academic nor industrial/commercial
12:59 schestowitz-TR; but I think it's not because Windows and other MSFT products sucjk
12:59 schestowitz-TR; but because capable people reject those products
12:59 DaemonFC; They go to work sick and take the sick days when they just don't want to be at work.
12:59 schestowitz-TR; and get on with real work
12:59 schestowitz-TR; the lesser abled people default to shitware
12:59 schestowitz-TR; and end up passing capital to Microsoft and the resellers
12:59 schestowitz-TR; without accomplishing muchg
12:59 schestowitz-TR; therein lies the dangers to companies and depts that choose MDF
12:59 schestowitz-TR; a side effect is, they drive out capable technicians
12:59 schestowitz-TR; and can only attracts the dropouts
12:59 schestowitz-TR; *attract
12:59 schestowitz-TR; or people with "certificatios" in place of real merits
12:59 schestowitz-TR; (in places of work where they mandated Windows I made it clear I would not be really interested. in one unbiversity
12:59 schestowitz-TR; they said it would be ok to install anything I want...)
12:59 schestowitz-TR; they need to be flexible to pull people who get work done and not just follow scripts (not in the technical sense)
12:59 schestowitz-TR; but we live in a society where even that has become a rariry
12:59 schestowitz-TR; you can use devuan or lfs or openbsd or riscos
12:59 schestowitz-TR; but to "fo work" they invite you to "the clown"
12:59 schestowitz-TR; and that requires 30 millionn lines of "code"
12:59 schestowitz-TR; whether it's dressed up as a fox or a jackal
13:00 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I've had jobs where the bosses are just SO awful that I called in sick sometimes just because I didn't want to deal with their shit that day and took at three day weekend instead.
13:00 DaemonFC; Then they always wonder why they have staffing problems.
13:00 DaemonFC; Why people are always one point from being fired.
13:02 DaemonFC; You know, the way I figured it was I had a cheap car, I had a roof over my head, I had food and video games. If I could sick out back when we called that playing hooky instead of a "mental health day", why not?
13:02 schestowitz-TR; true
13:02 DaemonFC; And the only reason you need a mental health day is because of having a boss like that.
13:02 DaemonFC; When I had a good boss, I rarely ever called in.
13:03 DaemonFC; I've had jobs where I had to call in one day in three years or something.
13:04 DaemonFC; That's the price companies pay for letting the crap float to the top.
13:04 Techrights-sec; The capable people reject those products and the work environment in which they
13:04 Techrights-sec; can exist and are thus driven out by incompetents and suckups.
13:04 Techrights-sec; Certifications are generally a red flag warning that the potential employee
13:04 Techrights-sec; has no actual skills or experience or knowledge. HR on the other hand loves
13:04 Techrights-sec; box ticking and thus certification.
13:04 Techrights-sec; ack
13:04 Techrights-sec; bloat == security holes
13:04 DaemonFC; You promote evil ignorant people to management, morale goes into the shitter, you start having problems. Lots of problems.
13:04 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: crap wants other crap to join up there
13:04 schestowitz-TR; as it poses less risk
13:05 schestowitz-TR; to the other crap
13:05 schestowitz-TR; same in politics
13:07 schestowitz-TR; we got infested with few of those certification-adoring BS
13:07 schestowitz-TR; but not without some challenge and dissent
13:07 schestowitz-TR; the problem is worse
13:07 schestowitz-TR; sometimes the CLIENTS have such expectations
13:07 schestowitz-TR; ISO and other toilet paper like "AWS"
13:07 Techrights-sec; there are some clever ways to deflect such silliness from clients, sometimes
13:08 DaemonFC; The ISO is pretty much worthless.
13:08 DaemonFC; They'll standardize pretty much anything, for money.
13:08 DaemonFC; No matter how bad.
13:09 DaemonFC; I notice that nobody even proposed Opus to the ISO. I think the ISO is losing their relevance though.
13:09 DaemonFC; Standards are catching on by their own merit or taking them to standards bodies that still function mostly like they are supposed to.
13:10 schestowitz-TR; tickbox checking exercise
13:10 schestowitz-TR; or memorisation skills
13:10 schestowitz-TR; those are factry floor mentalities
13:10 schestowitz-TR; "did you wear gloves"?
13:10 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, So many "news" articles lamenting the "death" of the "iPod".
13:10 schestowitz-TR; "did you cut it like we taught you"?
13:10 schestowitz-TR; in tech, the problems vary and are not predictable
13:10 schestowitz-TR; rianne joked that sarinGas was like candy sore manager
13:10 schestowitz-TR; *store
13:10 schestowitz-TR; assuming we open up boxes and stuff shelves
13:10 schestowitz-TR; or close tickets like they are "people at the counter"
13:10 DaemonFC; I pointed out any old Android phone could do more than that.
13:10 schestowitz-TR; "here, have candy"
13:11 DaemonFC; Even with no data connection, you can still play most music formats on one.
13:11 DaemonFC; It's not totally useless without data. Get one for next to nothing and use it as a media player.
13:12 Techrights-sec; yes, they are meaningless tickboxes, and as such the "requirements" can often
13:12 Techrights-sec; be gamed
13:12 DaemonFC; In airplane mode, the battery lasts a good long while.
13:12 DaemonFC; The iPod was just an iPhone without a cellular modem at the end.
13:12 DaemonFC; What's the point?
13:12 DaemonFC; $400 for an iPhone with no modem?
13:12 DaemonFC; You can buy an iPhone with a modem for that!
13:12 Techrights-sec; ISO was valuable prior to the OOXML scandal. One could argue that one of the
13:12 Techrights-sec; primary or secondary goals was to delegitimize ISO as an organization and
13:12 Techrights-sec; undermine its reputation to the point of no return
13:12 Techrights-sec; ^goals of the scandal
13:15 DaemonFC; They standardized things that patent trolls brought them a long time before that.
13:15 DaemonFC; Like MP3.
13:16 schestowitz-TR; there are some sayings that come to mind
13:16 schestowitz-TR; along the linhes of, it takes more effort to resist than to play along
13:16 schestowitz-TR; or, how cynicism is the way to go but few do it
13:16 schestowitz-TR; there are many idioms to that effect
13:16 schestowitz-TR; but this is how I've felt at work... for the past few years
13:16 schestowitz-TR; my outlet was confronting the management
13:16 schestowitz-TR; as the most senior employee I think I'm entitled or priivileged to do this
13:16 schestowitz-TR; unlike some colleagues
13:16 schestowitz-TR; and later I can say, "told you so..."
13:16 Techrights-sec; ack
13:20 schestowitz-TR; some banks here cannot be accessed (online) for periods of the day
13:20 schestowitz-TR; not for security reasons
13:20 schestowitz-TR; you and I can only imagine what happens in those time slots
13:20 schestowitz-TR; the banks would not say
13:20 schestowitz-TR; just messages saying come back later
13:20 schestowitz-TR; iirc, bt does this too
13:20 schestowitz-TR; they are close microsoft partners
13:20 schestowitz-TR; if web sites can be up 24/76 on shoestring budget
13:20 schestowitz-TR; and LSE could run 24/7 after abandoning Microsoft (outages during daytime)
13:20 schestowitz-TR; why can't bank with massive "tech" budgets
13:20 schestowitz-TR; that replace physical branches withg "apps" and "on-line"
13:20 Techrights-sec; ack
13:21 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR> along the linhes of, it takes more effort to resist than to play along
13:21 DaemonFC; Often true.
13:23 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Active resistance often burns up too much energy.
13:25 DaemonFC; There's ways to resist and make it look like you're complying. Then you can gain compliance from people who don't bother to check if you're doing what you're supposed to.
13:25 DaemonFC; I learned that lesson early on. My dad had me thrown into a psychiatric facility.
13:25 DaemonFC; I went days without eating demanding to be let out.
13:25 DaemonFC; I refused my medication.
13:26 DaemonFC; The more I did that, the more that they threatened my stay there would be a very long one.
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13:26 DaemonFC; Then I noticed that if it looked like I'd given up, nobody was actually checking to see what I did.
13:26 DaemonFC; So I started playing along. Eating meals, taking the medication (then tossing it when nobody was looking.
13:27 DaemonFC; And once they thought I was doing what they wanted me to do, they let me out.
13:27 schestowitz-TR; compliance is path of least resistance
13:27 schestowitz-TR; when those to whom you comply exercise a lot of control
13:27 Techrights-sec; ack
13:28 DaemonFC; Yeah, just look like you're some dumb guy who has given up trying to push back.
13:28 DaemonFC; And then they mostly just leave you alone.
13:28 DaemonFC; And all most people want is to be left alone.
13:28 DaemonFC; So that's good enough for most people.
13:38 Techrights-sec; ack
13:38 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Financial security gives people the time and space they need to properly organise against social and class injustice; thus, the ruling class wants to obliterate the middle class. The ruling class DOES have financial security, but this class does not fight itself; yet worse, those people collude to cover up for each other (shared goals)
13:39 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I just don't buy a lot of stuff.
13:39 DaemonFC; I buy cheap clothes and wear them for many years.
13:39 DaemonFC; I got an apartment on the lower end of the rent scale.
13:40 DaemonFC; I mean, if you don't get many expensive tastes and bad habits, it's not all that bad.
13:40 DaemonFC; Children are an expensive thing and a bad habit.
13:40 schestowitz-TR; I'm mostly the same
13:41 schestowitz-TR; except rianne shelved away many of my much older clothes
13:41 DaemonFC; I see people with 3 or 4 kids complaining that gas is expensive.
13:41 schestowitz-TR; the ones from my teenage years
13:41 DaemonFC; Or their electric bill is $10 higher or lower this month.
13:41 schestowitz-TR; kids amplify this
13:41 DaemonFC; They're worried about the wrong things because they had some control over their life and they squandered it.
13:41 schestowitz-TR; they need heating in winter
13:41 schestowitz-TR; adults need cooling
13:41 schestowitz-TR; it's about body mass
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13:42 DaemonFC; I noticed I need the air conditioner less so far with the dehumidifier running.
13:43 DaemonFC; I was mostly using the air conditioner to get rid of that stagnant humid air, which it will do for a lot more money.
13:43 schestowitz-TR; fans can help
13:43 DaemonFC; It gets the worst in here for days after there was a storm.
13:43 DaemonFC; The relative humidity shoots up to like 80%.
13:44 schestowitz-TR; when showers, hot showers, use gas
13:44 schestowitz-TR; and the prices soar
13:44 schestowitz-TR; you can then become more efficient
13:44 DaemonFC; I don't like anywhere in the house being over 50% relative humidity.
13:44 schestowitz-TR; dry shaving, shorter showers
13:44 DaemonFC; So I set the duehumidifier at 45. 45 at the unit = 50 in the other rooms.
13:44 DaemonFC; 50 = 58.
13:45 schestowitz-TR; not a big problem in england
13:45 DaemonFC; It gets pretty gross in here without that.
13:45 schestowitz-TR; temperature range here is OK
13:45 DaemonFC; High humidity makes it very hard to sleep.
13:46 DaemonFC; Speaking of which, I had a weird dream last night.
13:46 DaemonFC; John was in it. We were at a library and he annoyed a police officer who made everyone else look away while he took out his baton and cracked John's skull in with it and then walked off.
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13:47 schestowitz-TR; good dream then?
13:47 schestowitz-TR; mayeb he needed the skull tom unlock the "smart" KIA
13:47 DaemonFC; Disturbing still.
13:48 schestowitz-TR; it IS disturbing
13:48 schestowitz-TR; I mean, why would you be in a LIBRARY!
13:48 DaemonFC; ?
13:48 schestowitz-TR; joke
13:49 DaemonFC; You go to sleep and your mind can do anything it wants to you.
13:49 schestowitz-TR; depends
13:50 DaemonFC; Then Mandy wonders why I don't like to sleep at night.
13:50 schestowitz-TR; first, another person can wake you up
13:50 schestowitz-TR; if you show signs of unease
13:50 schestowitz-TR; second, if your life is relatively clam those dreams become less wild
13:50 schestowitz-TR; *calm
13:50 DaemonFC; Mandy just sleeps through it.
13:50 DaemonFC; Then I sleep in the day and in the day I get sleep paralysis.
13:50 schestowitz-TR; he saw dogs smashed IRL
13:50 schestowitz-TR; he can take a bad dream or two
13:51 schestowitz-TR; sleep paralysis happens a lot in daytime
13:51 DaemonFC; Part of the reason I put so many locks on the door is because of that.
13:51 schestowitz-TR; depending on posture, too
13:51 schestowitz-TR; I've not experienced any sleep paralysis in a very very long time
13:51 DaemonFC; I always hallucinate that there's someone breaking into the apartment.
13:51 DaemonFC; They're going to kill me but I can't move. I can't move and they're coming.
13:51 schestowitz-TR; sense of presence
13:52 schestowitz-TR; just remind yourself it's a false sense
13:52 schestowitz-TR; and go back to sleep
13:52 DaemonFC; Yeah, I do that.
13:52 schestowitz-TR; or cause adrenaline rush to wake up
13:56 DaemonFC; Yeah, if I can manage to move a finger, I come out of it faster.
13:57 DaemonFC; It's extremely frustrating. Like my hand doesn't want to move but if I force it to, it will slowly start to move, and then everything else unlocks a few seconds later.
13:58 DaemonFC; It's easier to get my left hand to move than my right hand.
13:58 DaemonFC; Which is strange, because I'm right-handed.
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14:10 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> COVID-19 https://truthout.org/articles/covid-is-not-behind-us-its-still-sending-children-to-the-emergency-room/ | Source: TruthOut
14:10 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | COVID Is Not Behind Us Its Still Sending Children to the Emergency Room
14:25 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Instead of patching its own ACTIVELY-EXPLOITED holes Microsoft launched a weeks-long anti-Linux FUD campaign in the media, accusing Linux of having security lapses (that were not) https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/06/microsoft-wont-say-if-it-will-patch-critical-windows-vulnerability-under-exploit/
14:25 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-arstechnica.com | Microsoft wont say if it will patch critical Windows vulnerability under exploit | Ars Technica
14:28 Techrights-sec; ack
14:32 schestowitz-TR; I was never sure how to respond to it
14:32 schestowitz-TR; not because I lacked counter-argumentrs
14:32 schestowitz-TR; but because it would give more room/space for the FUD
14:32 schestowitz-TR; which is likely the goal
14:32 schestowitz-TR; linuxsecurity.com is an anti-Linux site
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15:59 Techrights-sec; ack
15:59 Techrights-sec; yes many sites have misleading names or titles to lure in people and then
15:59 Techrights-sec; feed them disinformation and FUD against Linux and FOSS
15:59 Techrights-sec; mainstream media could be repaired by abandoning this "both sides" crap and
15:59 Techrights-sec; attempting to focus on verifiable facts
16:01 schestowitz-TR; gang is code for oligarchs who break the media code
16:01 schestowitz-TR; like the ones who bought Politico 2 years agi
16:01 schestowitz-TR; *ago
16:01 schestowitz-TR; 'winged' media causes people not t focus on facts
16:01 schestowitz-TR; but worry if one sounds right- or left-wing
16:01 schestowitz-TR; when covering those facts
16:06 Techrights-sec; yes, except that the media no longer covers facts but instead focuses on 'sides'
16:06 Techrights-sec;
16:09 schestowitz-TR; the other night I looked a lot or fished for story ideas re epo
16:09 schestowitz-TR; the epo picked politics, not unlike mozilla and eff
16:09 schestowitz-TR; like all this war stuff
16:09 schestowitz-TR; same tactics as eu
16:09 schestowitz-TR; so people who oppose epo might seem pro-russia or similar
16:09 schestowitz-TR; but of course blasting epo over belarus hits the po where it hurts
16:09 schestowitz-TR; as it shows that epo is opposite of what it presents itself as
16:09 schestowitz-TR; with eu and esp. germany you could use energy contracts
16:09 schestowitz-TR; to contradict what they are saying
16:09 schestowitz-TR; iirc, former germany head of state was on board of gasprom
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16:16 Techrights-sec; ack
16:16 Techrights-sec; regarding Germany, they talk but do the opposite of the talk
16:16 schestowitz-TR; putler is a man of his word
16:16 schestowitz-TR; germany politicians are pawns od moneyed interests
16:18 Techrights-sec; yes, like M$ which seems to own more than a few high level DE politicians
16:18 Techrights-sec; https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/olaf-scholz-and-ukraine-why-has-germany-been-so-slow-to-deliver-weapons-a-7cc8397b-2448-49e6-afa5-00311c8fedce
16:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.spiegel.de | Olaf Scholz and Ukraine: Why Has Germany Been So Slow to Deliver Weapons? - DER SPIEGEL
16:18 Techrights-sec; apropos RU and UA
16:19 schestowitz-TR; not just microsoft
16:19 schestowitz-TR; but for historic reasons mostly them
16:19 schestowitz-TR; in 10 years it can be more gulag and other occupying forces
16:19 schestowitz-TR; (not loyal to a nation but to shareholders)
16:25 Techrights-sec; yep
16:25 schestowitz-TR; as I said the other week, I think for the long-term we need to identify the pattern
16:26 schestowitz-TR; and keep attacking those
16:26 schestowitz-TR; rather than the brands
16:26 schestowitz-TR; like with patents, there's a framework being leveraged
16:26 schestowitz-TR; and the brands exploiting that will change over time and work in parallel
16:26 schestowitz-TR; some patent front groups work for Microsoft and Gulag at the same time
16:26 schestowitz-TR; OIN works for ICBM and Microsoft
16:26 schestowitz-TR; the problem is the approach
16:26 schestowitz-TR; another aspect is how to swerve and avoid the common trolling tactics
16:26 schestowitz-TR; like all the pseudo-ethics
16:26 schestowitz-TR; while not coming across as a bigot
16:26 schestowitz-TR; showing their hypocrisy is a very powerful approach
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18:15 Techrights-sec; thinking about the Rossmann video on corruption it is essential to remember that
18:15 Techrights-sec; the context for his comments is US politics and only US politics. The
18:15 Techrights-sec; first-past-the-post system is not used in Europe and so the dynamics are
18:15 Techrights-sec; completely different.
18:16 schestowitz-TR; the most threatening companies, even in Europe, aree American. They don't hold elections.
18:17 Techrights-sec; yes, that's true
18:17 Techrights-sec; the don't hold elections just bribe
18:18 schestowitz-TR; "marketing help"
18:18 schestowitz-TR; seriously though, there is also no lack of stories of IBM and Oracle corruption
18:18 schestowitz-TR; seems to be a cultural thing
18:18 schestowitz-TR; assumption of a lack of oversight and punioshment/consequences\
18:18 Techrights-sec; Oracle tested the lack of punishment when it bought InnoDB
18:19 schestowitz-TR; instead of making more robust system for data they just undermine what exists already
18:19 schestowitz-TR; this is the whole raison detre of antitrust law and sherman act
18:21 Techrights-sec; https://www.databasejournal.com/mysql/oracles-purchase-of-innodb-their-release-of-oracle-express-and-the-effect-on-mysql/
18:21 Techrights-sec; The US DOJ did nothing, so Ellison realized there was nothing to get in the way
18:21 Techrights-sec; of doing anything he wanted
18:21 Techrights-sec; yes
18:21 Techrights-sec; above a certain size, it is more convenient to stifle the market than
18:21 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.databasejournal.com | Oracle's purchase of InnoDB, their release of Oracle Express, and the effect on MySQL | Database Journal
18:21 Techrights-sec; engage in competition or strive for advancement. Also, since the MBAs involved
18:21 Techrights-sec; know nothing about computers and even less about databases, it is easier for
18:21 Techrights-sec; them to get their tiny minds around the concept. Furthermore there is the
18:21 Techrights-sec; zero-sum-game religion that most of them seem to adhere to and through that
18:21 Techrights-sec; they seem to figure that they're making a winner by throwing sand in everyone's
18:21 Techrights-sec; gears
18:27 Techrights-sec; yes but is also the reason that the agency responsible for enforcing those
18:27 Techrights-sec; laws has been basically defunded and hobbled
18:27 Techrights-sec; that's why Ellison tested the waters first with the purchase of InnoDB; that
18:27 Techrights-sec; should have been stopped but wasn't so he went out and bought MySQL too seeing
18:27 Techrights-sec; as it was Oracle's only major competitor at the time.
18:29 schestowitz-TR; i checked out mysql dumps this morning
18:29 schestowitz-TR; they are ok
18:29 schestowitz-TR; somehow it feels like mysql has been ok since then, maybe partly because mariadb exists
18:29 schestowitz-TR; there's also libreoffice vs openoffice.orfg
18:29 Techrights-sec; I think the existence of MariaDB has been the sole reason MySQL has done ok.
18:31 Techrights-sec; Berkeley DB has not fared as well under Oracle, BDB was once very widespread
18:31 Techrights-sec; but Oracle has more or less killed it off through several measures.
18:32 schestowitz-TR; i checked out mysql dumps this morning
18:32 schestowitz-TR; they are ok
18:32 schestowitz-TR; somehow it feels like mysql has been ok since then, maybe partly because mariadb exists
18:32 schestowitz-TR; there's also libreoffice vs openoffice.orfg
18:32 schestowitz-TR; at work we standardised around psql a long time ago because our DBAs and experience was based around that
18:33 Techrights-sec; That happened in 2006
18:33 Techrights-sec; after InnoDB
18:33 Techrights-sec; which was sold in 2005
18:33 Techrights-sec; PostgreSQL is a better choice technically though far less common.
18:33 Techrights-sec; BSD whiners made to much noise about the license for it to be taken that
18:33 Techrights-sec; seriously however. The whining turned off almost anyone starting to look into
18:33 Techrights-sec; the matter and they made it look like the license was the sole difference
18:33 Techrights-sec; aside from some incompatiblities. But looking past the license and only at
18:33 Techrights-sec; the capabilities, it is a better choice for most deployments
18:34 schestowitz-TR; they have a foot now in OSI board
18:34 schestowitz-TR; not that it matters so much
18:34 schestowitz-TR; OSI is lacking the clout it once had
18:35 Techrights-sec; However, one good move is that BDB is now under AGPL + dual license
18:35 Techrights-sec; The decline of OSI was an intentional move by the then board.
18:41 schestowitz-TR; rianne just came back
18:41 schestowitz-TR; saw a shoplifter caught today
18:41 schestowitz-TR; full chicken told for 0.3 pounds
18:41 schestowitz-TR; *sold
18:41 schestowitz-TR; escorted out
18:41 schestowitz-TR; anyway, she found enough stuff
18:41 schestowitz-TR; saw dead pigeon, wanted to bury it
18:41 schestowitz-TR; but hands already full
18:41 Techrights-sec; did the shopliffter get thrashed?
18:41 Techrights-sec; oh
18:41 Techrights-sec; ack
18:41 schestowitz-TR; [16:44] <techrights-news> Oligarchy https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/06/it-doesnt-matter-oligarchy-how-many-mass-shootings-there-are | Source: Common Dreams
18:41 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | It Doesn't Matter to the Oligarchy How Many Mass Shootings There Are | Chris Hedges
19:03 schestowitz-TR; Stuff Michael Meeks is doing. Blog migrated. https://meeksfamily.uk/~michael
19:03 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-meeksfamily.uk | Stuff Michael Meeks is doing
19:03 schestowitz-TR; notice how outsourcing to gnome
19:03 schestowitz-TR; and relying on planets
19:03 schestowitz-TR; cost him a lot
19:04 Techrights-sec; :(
19:05 schestowitz-TR; see the tuesday remarks
19:05 schestowitz-TR; this is the sort of stuff I've long kept in mind
19:05 schestowitz-TR; all those "blogs" I contributed to which later vanished completely
19:05 schestowitz-TR; though usually I kepy my own copies and reposted these on my turf
19:05 Techrights-sec; yep
19:09 schestowitz-TR; planets deter, discourage, obscure, omit, prosecute dissenting voices
19:09 schestowitz-TR; they are echo chambers like social control media if not worse
19:10 Techrights-sec; yes I would say that planets are mostly bad
19:10 Techrights-sec; not just dissenting voices, but off-message posts get censored too
19:10 Techrights-sec; not off-topic just off-message
19:10 schestowitz-TR; their editors'/eeditor's vanity project
19:10 schestowitz-TR; but it doesn't start this way
19:13 schestowitz-TR; I was going to use some other words to explain the relation and utility, but forgot... though the underlying concepts
19:13 schestowitz-TR; are the same
19:13 schestowitz-TR; they cultivate groupthink
19:13 schestowitz-TR; hence tghe grouping
19:13 schestowitz-TR; see the latest blog post from, wait... forgot his name... norbert
19:13 schestowitz-TR; hang on... Norbert Preining: Modern world https://www.preining.info/blog/2022/06/modern-world/
19:13 schestowitz-TR; they did a Linus on him
19:13 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.preining.info | Modern world | There and back again
19:13 schestowitz-TR; forced apology, compelled to give a talk with "diversity" candidate
19:13 schestowitz-TR; then he left
19:13 schestowitz-TR; now this blog post
19:13 schestowitz-TR; I was going to use some other words to explain the relation and utility, but forgot... though the underlying concepts
19:13 schestowitz-TR; are the same
19:13 schestowitz-TR; they cultivate groupthink
19:13 schestowitz-TR; hence tghe grouping
19:13 schestowitz-TR; see the latest blog post from, wait... forgot his name... norbert
19:13 schestowitz-TR; hang on... Norbert Preining: Modern world https://www.preining.info/blog/2022/06/modern-world/
19:13 schestowitz-TR; they did a Linus on him
19:13 schestowitz-TR; forced apology, compelled to give a talk with "diversity" candidate
19:13 schestowitz-TR; then he left
19:13 schestowitz-TR; now this blog post
19:14 Techrights-sec; did they try forced, unnecessary treatment on him like with Torvalds and,
19:14 Techrights-sec; presumably, others?
19:15 schestowitz-TR; maybe short of him donning rainbows in his blog he will never be forgiven
19:15 schestowitz-TR; he tried to play their game
19:15 schestowitz-TR; and realised he was wasting his time
19:15 schestowitz-TR; they will never be happy
19:15 schestowitz-TR; even though he spent like x10 longer in thie project
19:15 schestowitz-TR; and made technical mcontributions, not just hearsay and gossip
19:19 Techrights-sec; even if he ingratiates himself, it will not help -- as you point out they
19:19 Techrights-sec; will never be happy; furthermore it has been shown time and again there and
19:19 Techrights-sec; elsewhere over many, many decades that appeasement does not work especially
19:19 Techrights-sec; towards bullies and despots and wannabe dictators
19:19 Techrights-sec; It's not about technical contributesion is about CoCs and blue hair
19:19 Techrights-sec; The goal is to wrest control of the projects from those who made them
19:19 Techrights-sec; by using proxies and catspaws
19:19 Techrights-sec; https://www.preining.info/blog/2022/01/future-of-my-packages-in-debian/
19:19 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.preining.info | Future of "my" packages in Debian | There and back again
19:21 Techrights-sec; https://danielpocock.com/debian-jonathan-carter-chris-lamb-resignations/
19:21 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-danielpocock.com | Calling for Jonathan Carter & Chris Lamb to resign from Debian
19:21 schestowitz-TR; I saw that 10 mins ago, was reading
19:25 schestowitz-TR; "then they fight you..."
19:25 schestowitz-TR; (me also, remember I walk on narrow pebbles when merely linking to these)
19:25 Techrights-sec; ack
19:25 schestowitz-TR; if you stand up for nobody, who will stand up for you?
19:27 Techrights-sec; correct
19:28 schestowitz-TR; I was thinking of collecting screenshots to demonstrate the bias of linuxsecuirty.com
19:28 schestowitz-TR; but instead I will wait another week
19:28 schestowitz-TR; and see if it improves
19:28 schestowitz-TR; reposting a lot of shite for VMware+Microsoft
19:28 Techrights-sec; ack
19:51 Techrights-sec; https://nypost.com/2022/06/07/paul-pelosis-bought-up-to-2-1m-of-apple-microsoft-shares/
19:51 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nypost.com | Paul Pelosi's bought up to $2.1M of Apple, Microsoft shares
19:53 schestowitz-TR; USA, Inc.
19:53 schestowitz-TR; Not to even be taken seriously anymore
19:53 schestowitz-TR; no matter which corporate party
19:53 schestowitz-TR; and thus it must be dealt with as a political issue
19:53 schestowitz-TR; Ask the Polosis how much they preofited from Biden's bailout to Microsoft
19:53 schestowitz-TR; It's like he's passing federal money into his pocket
19:53 schestowitz-TR; and months ago demands were made to ban politicians from stocktrading
19:54 Techrights-sec; yes he is
19:54 Techrights-sec; and he's passing influence into the legislature via his wife, that conflict
19:54 Techrights-sec; of interest is unavoidable
20:02 Techrights-sec; of interest is unavoidable in that situation but banning stock trading
20:02 Techrights-sec; while in office for the politician and their spouse would prevent that
20:02 Techrights-sec; but the lobbying money from Wallstreet would prevent that as handily as
20:02 Techrights-sec; they did prevent Warren from running for office.
20:04 schestowitz-TR; you cannot change the game by playing according to its rules
20:04 schestowitz-TR; you need to find some laterial path or angle
20:04 schestowitz-TR; maybe Sanders too will realise it before he looks like Noam Chomsky at 95
20:05 Techrights-sec; Sanders is already too old for the office of president, so is Biden, amd
20:05 Techrights-sec; probably Warren.
20:07 schestowitz-TR; earlier this year I check yough photos of Warren out of curiousity
20:07 schestowitz-TR; knowing she looks younger than she really is
20:07 schestowitz-TR; AOC has some promise and the vicious attacks or hatred from the right reaffirm this
20:07 schestowitz-TR; but I don't know if enough a-holes in "red states" can get themselves to vote for a
20:07 schestowitz-TR; "foreigner" (not) from "copuntry" (not) like Puerto Rico
20:07 schestowitz-TR; This is where oligarchy is not just "cool" witrh gun crime but also with bigotry
20:10 Techrights-sec; ack
20:10 Techrights-sec; yes that's how it looks from here too
20:11 schestowitz-TR; remember they were ready to use atheism against Sanders
20:11 schestowitz-TR; while likely relaying on (unofficially, vbehind closed doors) antisemitism coming to the rescure too
20:11 schestowitz-TR; esp. in the "middle" states
20:11 schestowitz-TR; while the media the oligarchs fund (still) spreads all this "bolshevik" myth
20:14 Techrights-sec; ack
20:17 schestowitz-TR; trump went on the alex jones show
20:17 schestowitz-TR; this is where you can rile up the cranks with their whispers campaigns
20:17 schestowitz-TR; nothing is off limits when you want to win power
20:17 schestowitz-TR; even meetings int he tower... with RUSSIAN officials
20:17 schestowitz-TR; to coordinate the election stategy
20:17 schestowitz-TR; sedition is without consequences 18 months later
20:17 schestowitz-TR; riling up mobs
20:17 schestowitz-TR; and alex jones and all that
20:17 schestowitz-TR; if he ran against Sanders
20:17 schestowitz-TR; he and breitbart (oligarchs-funded)
20:17 schestowitz-TR; would ensure the "ZOG" crankery would kick into full wwing
20:17 schestowitz-TR; swing
20:17 schestowitz-TR; "unofficially"
20:17 schestowitz-TR; like they did with obama and "muslim brotherhood"
20:17 schestowitz-TR; calling him muslim and stuff
20:17 schestowitz-TR; facts don't matter anymore
20:20 Techrights-sec; fact-free news media let that happen rather than calling it and other
20:20 Techrights-sec; bullshit out
20:22 schestowitz-TR; there is new kind of abused "media"
20:22 schestowitz-TR; it is called "fact checkers"
20:22 schestowitz-TR; and there is a push to phase in that "fact checking" as a FILTER
20:22 schestowitz-TR; in the name of fighting words that the CIA partly came up with, IIRC
20:22 schestowitz-TR; censorship spun as "security"
20:22 schestowitz-TR; while you let a sitting president rile up for sedition
20:22 schestowitz-TR; and get away with it
20:22 schestowitz-TR; maybe evben run for president again
20:22 schestowitz-TR; "security"
20:22 schestowitz-TR; Canada needs to build a wall ;-)
20:22 Techrights-sec; snopes used to do that now it only offers spin on the investigated topics
20:22 Techrights-sec; not just that but the initial campaign in 2016 had clear legal transgressions
20:22 Techrights-sec; which are actionable
20:22 Techrights-sec; https://www.vox.com/2020/9/29/21493319/trump-russia-if-youre-listening-comments-rewrite-history
20:22 Techrights-sec; that's just one of manhy
20:22 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Trump says Russia, if youre listening was a joke. Theres tape proving otherwise. - Vox
20:25 schestowitz-TR; whichsnopes?
20:25 schestowitz-TR; WHICH snopes?
20:25 schestowitz-TR; It's like slashdot
20:25 schestowitz-TR; around 7 years ago it became a media aite
20:25 schestowitz-TR; *site
20:25 schestowitz-TR; riding the past reputation as a fact checker
20:25 schestowitz-TR; iirc, the owners too change, or the operators
20:25 schestowitz-TR; the name stayed
20:33 Techrights-sec; yep snopes died but left the name to essentially a new organization with
20:33 Techrights-sec; new goals and methods
20:33 Techrights-sec; IIRC a divorce was involved too
20:33 schestowitz-TR; SPLC
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23:51 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Twitter is dying, fast. There's a Carl Icahn with hairplugs now. His name is Ilon. [sic] https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/06/twitter_musk_bots/
23:51 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.com | Elon Musk threatens to terminate $46.5bn Twitter deal The Register
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