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beginning of new day, January 7

00:10 schestowitz; Hi, it's midnight here, Friday. Time for community Q & A. :D

00:10 schestowitz; >> Last I checked (IRS is always behind), 95% of the money comes from

00:10 schestowitz; >> corporations. Simon did not even bother refuting this, he just got

00:10 schestowitz; >> all upset about me pointing that out.

00:10 schestowitz; >

00:10 schestowitz; > At the moment the majority of funding to OSI comes from sponsorships by ~50 companies, of various shape, size and form. That's something we want to change, adding more funding sources, including individuals and grants from different sorts of institutions. It will not happen overnight though, it'll take time.

00:10 schestowitz; OK, I am glad we agree on how money is being used and taken by OSI. So I did not get any facts wrong AFAICT.

00:10 schestowitz; >> I welcomed you when you came to OSI. I even got flak for that.

00:10 schestowitz; >

00:10 schestowitz; > I know, I noticed and appreciated the welcome message.

00:10 schestowitz; Glad. I want to work diplomatically. The attacks on RMS last March were the opposite of that.

00:10 schestowitz; >> You did come from the COMMUNITY. I hope you can repair the OSI, but

00:10 schestowitz; >> I dread its current trajectory. The less relevant the OSI becomes,

00:10 schestowitz; >> the less the corporations will need to "support" it. And this is

00:10 schestowitz; >> how popular movements get 'defused'.

00:10 schestowitz; >

00:10 schestowitz; > We'll start new projects and programs soon. I hope we'll get judged over more concrete actions than just a blog post.

00:10 schestowitz; Excellent!

00:10 schestowitz; >> Let's not inflate accusations against me, either. Straw man

00:10 schestowitz; >> arguments are unhelpful.

00:10 schestowitz; >

00:10 schestowitz; > I haven't accused you of anything. If you felt I have, I'm sorry: I had no intention to.

00:10 schestowitz; OK, thanks for clarifying.

00:10 schestowitz; >> GitHub is the #1 threat at the moment (I explained the reasons many

00:10 schestowitz; >> times before).

00:10 schestowitz; >

00:10 schestowitz; > Noted. I'll look on your site for your reasons why you consider GH the #1 threat instead of others like the efforts to destroy the Open Source Definition by shared source companies or patent-asserting behemoths openly hostile to the OSD.

00:10 schestowitz; 'My' account in Twitter can now post again. I wrote a great deal on the subject there and in Techrights (and Identica, Diaspora etc.)

00:10 schestowitz; To quickly tackle your point (above): have you considered the possibility many of the above attacks (e.g. Intellectual Ventures, SCO, Black Duck) are connected to Microsoft itself? Not a loaded question per se. I can give you links.

00:10 schestowitz; >> Twitter suspended me because some person or people filed

00:10 schestowitz; >> complained about my tweets about OSI, conveniently framing that as

00:10 schestowitz; >> "COVID".

00:10 schestowitz; >

00:10 schestowitz; > Again, sorry this happened to you. I realized now that I mis-read your Twitter feed: your account hasn't tweeted for a while now.

00:10 schestowitz; Twitter slid out of control. Next week I might call for a boycott and quit posting copies there. http://techrights.org/2022/01/06/twitter-boycott/

http://techrights.org/2022/01/06/twitter-boycott/

00:10 schestowitz; >> I prefer written communication if that's OK.

00:11 schestowitz; >

00:11 schestowitz; > Sure, as you wish. Fridays are the days I dedicate to answering to community questions, one way or another is fine.

00:11 schestowitz; OK, so take your time. Let's touch bases. I think it would be beneficial for both of us.

00:11 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Time for a Twitter Boycott? | Techrights

00:11 schestowitz; >> Also, I'm not an enemy, mind you, I just see happening right now

00:11 schestowitz; >> what happened in LF and OSDL.

00:11 schestowitz; >

00:11 schestowitz; > Noted. And for the records, I don't consider you an enemy either.

00:11 schestowitz; :-)

00:11 schestowitz; > I wish you a great 2022

00:11 schestowitz; > /stef

00:11 schestowitz; You too!

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02:49 schestowitz-TR; OK

02:49 schestowitz-TR; working on it

02:49 schestowitz-TR; done

02:49 Techrights-sec; afk

02:49 Techrights-sec; Via EXIF probably. libimage-exif-perl or libimage-exiftool-perl

02:49 Techrights-sec; thanks

02:49 Techrights-sec; though I wonder if the metadata can be extracted without having to download

02:49 Techrights-sec; the entire video to the system doing the work of processing everything into

02:49 Techrights-sec; Gemtext

02:49 Techrights-sec; Regardless, the metadata helps in the future, especially if the files

02:50 Techrights-sec; move around and get separated a little from the accompanying HTML

02:50 Techrights-sec; thanks

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02:52 schestowitz-TR; the gif "poster" file will also have a title, not file name as slug

02:52 schestowitz-TR; the meta name/fireld is "title"

02:52 schestowitz-TR; I will do a few videos with it, then see if it goes OK before pushing to git

02:53 Techrights-sec;

02:53 Techrights-sec; ack

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02:58 schestowitz-TR; am adding date

02:58 Techrights-sec; I was thinking there would be a method using exiftools via the shell, but

02:58 Techrights-sec; it is not ready for WebM yet:

02:58 Techrights-sec; $ exiftool edu-tech.webm -xmp-dc:Creator="Roy Schestowitz"

02:58 Techrights-sec; Error: Writing of WEBM files is not yet supported - edu-tech.webm

02:58 Techrights-sec; 0 image files updated

02:58 Techrights-sec; 1 files weren't updated due to errors

02:58 Techrights-sec; ack

02:59 schestowitz-TR; anything else to add?

02:59 Techrights-sec; title, who is speaking (author/creator), maybe date (added already) and

02:59 Techrights-sec; a keyword or two (optional)

02:59 Techrights-sec; title is most important


3 AM, January 7

03:06 Techrights-sec; good point, yes, license and maybe a link to TR

03:07 schestowitz; nice ffmpeg -f concat -i ./recipe.txt -metadata title="$VIDEO_NAME" -metadata author="Techrights" -metadata license="Creative Commons Attribution-No Derivative Works 3.0" -metadata author="Roy Schestowitz" -metadata date="$(stat --printf='%y' $VIDEO_FILE.webm | cut -d ' ' -f1)" $VIDEO_FILE.webm

03:08 Techrights-sec; be dc:Identifier containing a URL

03:23 Techrights-sec; hmm. not getting fmpeg to add anything other than title

03:42 Techrights-sec; ack

03:46 Techrights-sec; CC3? Would CC4 be more relevant?

03:46 Techrights-sec; The metadata is visible in VLC.

03:46 schestowitz-TR; I missed whatever you put in the session after "ack"

03:46 schestowitz-TR; I've just pushed to git

03:46 schestowitz-TR; so you can change anything as you see fit there

03:49 Techrights-sec; ok

03:53 schestowitz; <li>

03:53 schestowitz; <h5><a href="https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-mint-cinnamon-hd-scaling.html">Linux Mint, HD scaling, fractional scaling</a></h5>

↺ https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-mint-cinnamon-hd-scaling.html">Linux

03:53 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-mint-cinnamon-hd-scaling.html">Linux )

↺ https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-mint-cinnamon-hd-scaling.html">Linux

03:53 schestowitz; <blockquote>

03:53 schestowitz; <p>I tried using the built-in Display setting option, I tried font scaling, I manually made changes to the panel, but in the end, I wasn't that happy. Too many actions, not enough cohesion. There was no one-button solution for me. As it happens, in 2021, the only desktop environment that does scaling well is Plasma, and I'm including Windows into this equation. But that's not why we're here. I actually want to show you what

03:53 schestowitz; you can do when it comes to HD scaling in Mint's Cinnamon desktop. Let's do it.</p></blockquote></li>

03:53 schestowitz; <li>

03:53 schestowitz; <h5><a href="https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/01/05/why-might-you-run-your-own-dns-server-/">Why might you run your own DNS server?</a></h5>

↺ https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/01/05/why-might-you-run-your-own-dns-server-/">Why

03:53 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 400 @ https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/01/05/why-might-you-run-your-own-dns-server-/">Why )

↺ https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/01/05/why-might-you-run-your-own-dns-server-/">Why

03:54 schestowitz; <blockquote>

03:54 schestowitz; <p>One of the things that makes DNS difficult to understand is that its decentralized. There are thousands (maybe hundreds of thousands? I dont know!) of authoritative nameservers, and at least 10 million resolvers. And theyre running lots of different software! All these different servers running software means that theres a lot of inconsistency in how DNS works, which can cause all kinds of frustrating problems.

03:54 schestowitz; </p>

03:54 schestowitz; <p>But instead of talking about the problems, Im interested in figuring out why is it a good thing that DNS is decentralized?</p></blockquote></li>


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9 AM, January 7

09:21 Techrights-sec; tidying and CC by nd 4.0

09:21 Techrights-sec; pushed to git

09:21 Techrights-sec; back in a few hours

09:22 schestowitz; <li>

09:22 schestowitz; <h5><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/20/us/politics/russia-ukraine-cyberattacks.html">U.S. and Britain Help Ukraine Prepare for Potential Russian Cyberassault</a></h5>

↺ https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/20/us/politics/russia-ukraine-cyberattacks.html">U.S.

09:22 schestowitz; <blockquote>

09:22 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/20/us/politics/russia-ukraine-cyberattacks.html">U.S )

↺ https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/20/us/politics/russia-ukraine-cyberattacks.html">U.S

09:22 schestowitz; <p>Now the United States and Britain have quietly dispatched cyberwarfare experts to Ukraine in hopes of better preparing the country to confront what they think may be the next move by President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia as he again menaces the former Soviet republic: Not an invasion with the 175,000 troops he is massing on the border, but cyberattacks that take down the electric grid, the banking system, and other

09:22 schestowitz; critical components of Ukraines economy and government.</p>

09:22 schestowitz; <p>Russias goal, according to American intelligence assessments, would be to make Ukraines president, Volodymyr Zelensky, look inept and defenseless and perhaps provide an excuse for an invasion.</p></blockquote></li>


10 AM, January 7

10:37 Techrights-sec; back

10:37 schestowitz-TR; 0/

10:37 schestowitz-TR; I have made further improvements but have not pushed to git yet

10:37 schestowitz-TR; You were saying, in regards to....


noon, January 7

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13:40 schestowitz-TR; I have forwarded the email to zoobab

13:40 schestowitz-TR; Should I reproduced much as the same as techrights post?

13:41 Techrights-sec; https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/en/TXT/?qid=1593079180383&uri=CELEX%3A52020DC0064

↺ https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/en/TXT/?qid=1593079180383&uri=CELEX%3A52020DC0064

13:41 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-eur-lex.europa.eu | EUR-Lex - 52020DC0064 - EN - EUR-Lex

13:41 Techrights-sec; Not sure. Probably best not to link to the survey itself, but the directive and supplementary info here:

13:41 Techrights-sec; https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=SWD:2018:157:FIN

↺ https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=SWD:2018:157:FIN

13:41 Techrights-sec; https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/en/TXT/?qid=1593079180383&uri=CELEX%3A52020DC0064

↺ https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/en/TXT/?qid=1593079180383&uri=CELEX%3A52020DC0064

13:41 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-eur-lex.europa.eu | EUR-Lex - 52018SC0157 - EN - EUR-Lex


2 PM, January 7

14:07 Techrights-sec; here is the directive, Directive 85/374/EEC

14:07 Techrights-sec; https://ec.europa.eu/growth/single-market/goods/free-movement-sectors/liability-d

↺ https://ec.europa.eu/growth/single-market/goods/free-movement-sectors/liability-d

14:07 Techrights-sec; efective-products_en

14:07 Techrights-sec; however, it is not appropriate to make a post about it at this point in time

14:07 Techrights-sec; IMHO

14:07 Techrights-sec; if a post is necessary, then I would build it from these four:

14:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://ec.europa.eu/growth/single-market/goods/free-movement-sectors/liability-d )

↺ https://ec.europa.eu/growth/single-market/goods/free-movement-sectors/liability-d

14:07 Techrights-sec; https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/358198.358210

↺ https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/358198.358210

14:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-dl.acm.org |

14:07 Techrights-sec; https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2030258

↺ https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2030258

14:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-queue.acm.org | The Software Industry IS the Problem - ACM Queue

14:07 Techrights-sec; https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3489045

↺ https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3489045

14:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-queue.acm.org | The Software Industry IS STILL the Problem - ACM Queue

14:07 Techrights-sec; http://geer.tinho.net/geer.blackhat.6viii14.txt / https://youtu.be/nT-TGvYOBpI

↺ http://geer.tinho.net/geer.blackhat.6viii14.txt

↺ https://youtu.be/nT-TGvYOBpI

14:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.youtube.com | Cybersecurity as Realpolitik by Dan Geer presented at Black Hat USA 2014 - YouTube

14:07 Techrights-sec; the goal would be to increase general awareness so that informed decisions

14:07 Techrights-sec; can be made

14:07 schestowitz-TR; I am going to write something

14:09 Techrights-sec; ok but rather than a call to action at this time it needs to be an awareness

14:09 Techrights-sec; and bring attention to the four links just posted above. In the fourth link

14:09 Techrights-sec; it is only part 3 which is relevant.

14:12 schestowitz; this is difficult for me to write about

14:12 schestowitz; as I start with no knowledge of what this is about

14:14 Techrights-sec; which is a reason why it is ok to leave it be for now, but what about

14:14 Techrights-sec; some of the others active at TR in the EU?

14:14 schestowitz-TR; I passed that on for now, put notes in my todo with all the links

14:16 Techrights-sec; ok. I would again recommend avoiding linking to the survey itself. Those

14:16 Techrights-sec; for whom it is relevant can find it easily enough or already know about it

14:16 Techrights-sec; there is a risk otherwise that the rest of just make noise

14:17 schestowitz-TR; maybe I can just publish the text of it with my response

14:17 Techrights-sec; not the survey directly

14:17 schestowitz-TR; I can make fun of it

14:20 Techrights-sec; without the proper background reading the survey

14:20 Techrights-sec; is not relevant; with the proper background knowledge it is an opportunity to

14:20 Techrights-sec; nudge things the right direction, perhaps; my recommendation would to not post

14:20 Techrights-sec; about it

14:20 schestowitz-TR; I will look later. getting close to minor burnout tbh, as I was recording, forgot to turn off noise removal

14:21 schestowitz-TR; and then all this in email being opened, with many other messages popping up

14:21 schestowitz-TR; and then chat

14:21 schestowitz-TR; I think "HEY HI" is NS

14:21 schestowitz-TR; *BS

14:21 schestowitz-TR; and would rather write to make fun of buzzwords from EU

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16:29 Techrights-sec; right but the questions in the survey are an attempt at addressing the problems

16:29 Techrights-sec; even if they don't know much about the software design underneath

16:29 Techrights-sec; One aspect which can be worthy of copious amounts of text would be the

16:29 Techrights-sec; question of how much software is actually fit for purpose and what the

16:29 Techrights-sec; protections people should have if they *use it as advertised*.

16:29 Techrights-sec; M$ can't have it both ways. They can't both blame the victim at the same time

16:29 Techrights-sec; as they are telling the victim that the software should be used in the way

16:29 Techrights-sec; they are blaming the victim for using it in.

16:29 Techrights-sec; For example, they design interaces to be clicked on and obfuscate a lot of

16:29 Techrights-sec; important information, including metadata, while embedding scripts and such,

16:29 Techrights-sec; advertising it all as desirable featues. Yet when those features are (mis)used

16:29 Techrights-sec; the usr is blamed instead of the the vendor. Same for attachments. Furthermore

16:29 Techrights-sec; the reason e-mail is used as a surrogate for file sharing is that M$ killed off

16:30 Techrights-sec; Novell NetWare without either replacing the functionality or allowing the

16:30 Techrights-sec; market to fill the vaccuum. So we are left today with 100s of millions if idiot

16:30 Techrights-sec; companies with their idiot bosses and frazzled employees sending attachments

16:30 Techrights-sec; and having multiple, conflicting versions of the same document, and having lost

16:30 Techrights-sec; messages (via M$ Exchange) to add on top of the normal stress.

16:30 Techrights-sec; Vendor lock-in moves further up the stack:

16:30 Techrights-sec; https://www.thurrott.com/hardware/260917/here-come-the-first-pcs-with-microsofts-

↺ https://www.thurrott.com/hardware/260917/here-come-the-first-pcs-with-microsofts-

16:30 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.thurrott.com/hardware/260917/here-come-the-first-pcs-with-microsofts- )

↺ https://www.thurrott.com/hardware/260917/here-come-the-first-pcs-with-microsofts-

16:30 Techrights-sec; pluton-security-chip

16:30 Techrights-sec; UEFI, TPM 2, Pluton, ...

16:47 schestowitz-TR; I know too little about this "Pluton" BS

16:47 schestowitz-TR; +!

16:55 Techrights-sec; That's been kept out of the daylight for a reason ...

16:55 Techrights-sec; The XBox served only as a testbed for DRM which gradually makes its way into

16:55 Techrights-sec; the mainstream wintel market.

16:55 Techrights-sec; otr: I called that when the XBox first came out but have no links to prove my

16:55 Techrights-sec; otr: point or my prescience

16:55 Techrights-sec; I have to say that it's been obvious from the beginning what the XBox is about.

16:55 Techrights-sec; Notice that is is Ars Techica and ZDNet which are among the very few announcing

16:55 Techrights-sec; Pluton.

16:55 Techrights-sec; https://itigic.com/hsp-pluton-security-processor-inside-cpus/

↺ https://itigic.com/hsp-pluton-security-processor-inside-cpus/

16:55 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-itigic.com | HSP Pluton, the Security Processor Inside CPUs | ITIGIC

16:55 Techrights-sec; "So it only allows the execution of programs signed by Microsoft itself for the c

16:55 Techrights-sec; onsole."


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6 PM, January 7

18:08 schestowitz-TR; correct me if I am wrong

18:08 schestowitz-TR; when you edited the metadata line

18:08 schestowitz-TR; you cut in half $( ... )

18:08 schestowitz-TR; which I think is why the data is missing from resultant files

18:08 schestowitz-TR; I will test

18:08 Techrights-sec; It's quite likely I introduced some error, but command substitution works even

18:08 Techrights-sec; when split over many lines. So the splitting itself is unlikely the prioblem

18:08 Techrights-sec; but maybe a typo or omission?

18:29 Techrights-sec; found it

18:29 Techrights-sec; will fix

18:29 schestowitz-TR; no, wait

18:29 schestowitz-TR; conflicting changes

18:29 Techrights-sec; ok, within the $( ... ) block keep everything the same but move the pipe | up

18:29 Techrights-sec; to the end of the previous line. It should not matter but does, apparently.

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18:33 Techrights-sec; + -metadata date="$(stat --printf='%y' $VIDEO_FILE.webm | \

18:33 Techrights-sec; + cut -d ' ' -f1)" $VIDEO_FILE.webm

18:33 Techrights-sec; or

18:33 Techrights-sec; + -metadata date="$(stat --printf='%y' $VIDEO_FILE.webm |

18:33 Techrights-sec; + cut -d ' ' -f1)" $VIDEO_FILE.webm

18:33 schestowitz-TR; thanks, adding

18:34 schestowitz-TR; you caught me at the middle of doing 4 things at once, which I ought not do ^_^

18:38 Techrights-sec; multitasking is unproductive, there is always high overhead for it

18:38 schestowitz-TR; usually it is neither intentional nor desired

18:39 schestowitz-TR; happened this afternoon, as I noted

18:39 schestowitz-TR; I went to sleep

18:39 schestowitz-TR; to refresh and re-energise

18:41 schestowitz; managed to make change without conflicts

18:41 schestowitz; push will come if it works OK

18:41 schestowitz; the upcoming video (sort of test, very short)

18:41 schestowitz; will still have the bug of missing data

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18:42 Techrights-sec; exiftool does not show the metadata but VLC will

18:42 schestowitz-TR; I test with 5 or so media players

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18:47 Techrights-sec; ack


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