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7 AM, December 6

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8 AM, December 6

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08:22 schestowitz-TR; back

08:22 schestowitz-TR; was TM gemini restated or something?

08:22 schestowitz-TR; 10 mins ago it stopped responding

08:22 schestowitz-TR; false alarm

08:22 schestowitz-TR; my bad

08:22 schestowitz-TR; what timed out was the cron job that helps me track local weather

08:22 schestowitz-TR; sorry for the false alarm

08:23 techrightssec2; Not that I know of.

08:23 techrightssec2; Checking.

08:23 techrightssec2; The daemon has been running for over a day:

08:23 techrightssec2; ps -o user,pid,etime,args | grep 2821 | grep gemini

08:23 techrightssec2; gemini 2821 1d06 /usr/bin/gmnisrv -C /etc/gmnisrv.ini

08:26 techrightssec2; No problem

08:29 schestowitz-TR; i think my replies therein were polite enough and hard to take out of context

08:29 schestowitz-TR; btw, mumble is awesome, we use it heavily

08:29 schestowitz-TR; many client downloads too

08:29 schestowitz-TR; objective: instead of x companies (prism, russia, china) having datacentres for it

08:29 schestowitz-TR; people start hosting p2p and e2ee comms from their homes

08:29 schestowitz-TR; isps might respond by not giving world-facing ip addresses to homes

08:31 *Techrights-sec is now known as ts2

08:31 techrightssec2; Yes, like what happened with Usenet not so long ago.

08:32 schestowitz-TR; something to watch out for

08:32 schestowitz-TR; if I set up murmur again, I will record a video or something to show how it is done

08:32 schestowitz-TR; so more people self-host mumble and foster solidarity for the practice

08:33 techrightssec2; Probably no need to set it up again but it would be important to back up

08:33 techrightssec2; the certificates used by the daemon.

08:33 techrightssec2; It's darn easy to self-host Mumble and when combined with even a dynamic DNS

08:33 techrightssec2; entry and port forwarding from the router, anyone can do it.

08:33 schestowitz-TR; for now

08:36 schestowitz-TR; with usenet you assumed all major isps would offer access

08:36 schestowitz-TR; when they did not, people stopped coming

08:36 schestowitz-TR; and groups perished

08:36 schestowitz-TR; never mind google's rogue role

08:36 schestowitz-TR; with mumble, apple and gulag might say mumble promotes bad language

08:36 schestowitz-TR; or does not comply with cocism like censorship

08:36 schestowitz-TR; and thus the "apps" for mumble must be removed

08:36 schestowitz-TR; like they did "rioit" before it was renamed "element"

08:36 schestowitz-TR; just to waste their time

08:36 schestowitz-TR; as if the name was the problem

08:36 schestowitz-TR; while they promote in the front page "apps" of companies that commit actaual war crimes

08:37 techrightssec2; Yes, for now. TPM and Restricted Boot and related problems are part of the

08:37 techrightssec2; lockdown move to eliminate general-purpose computing and replace it with

08:37 techrightssec2; corporately controlled appliances a la "smart" phones

08:37 techrightssec2; Yep

08:37 techrightssec2; Time-wasting is a core function and goal of such "apps"

08:39 schestowitz-TR; 1) i meant asking for the apps to be merely renamed -= timeasting

08:39 schestowitz-TR; 2) in india, lots of whats app censorship - they ALREADY cemsor messaging apps, not just social control media

08:39 schestowitz-TR; 3) iirc, both gulag and rotten apple censored parler

08:39 schestowitz-TR; but not fb and twitter

08:39 schestowitz-TR; so you can envision what they can say about mumla or similar mumble things

08:39 schestowitz-TR; even just to make it more "niche"

08:39 schestowitz-TR; skype = wiretapping and following links in 'private' messages

08:43 techrightssec2; It is important to remember that one of the very first things m$ did when

08:44 techrightssec2; acquiring skype was to centralize it.

08:45 schestowitz-TR; AND added to NSA PRISM!

08:45 schestowitz-TR; it's cheaper NOT to centralise it

08:45 schestowitz-TR; so I guess the business model is,

08:45 schestowitz-TR; suck up to DoD

08:45 schestowitz-TR; "we'll thank you later" :)

08:45 schestowitz-TR; skype used to be european

08:56 techrightssec2; M$ Outlook also follows links in messages, if the messages don't get lost

08:56 techrightssec2; first.

08:56 techrightssec2; Yes, and during that time it was not just distributed but also usable and with

08:56 techrightssec2; passable sound quality, unlike now post-purchase.

08:56 techrightssec2; By the way, SIP also seems to have reduced sound quality these days or at

08:56 techrightssec2; least it seems that way in the remaining SIP clients.

08:56 techrightssec2; It may be that they choose garbage codecs, but some have suggested that the

08:56 techrightssec2; ISPs (which are often phone companies or otherwise connected to phone companies)

08:56 techrightssec2; choose to drop a lot of the UDP packets.

08:56 techrightssec2; s/drop/drop or delay/

08:59 schestowitz-TR; -

08:59 schestowitz-TR; yes, ipfs is a bit like that

08:59 schestowitz-TR; it seems safe to keep running

08:59 schestowitz-TR; we don't fetch or repost anything, so we cannot possible host anything illegal

08:59 schestowitz-TR; unless it is our own

08:59 schestowitz-TR; *possibly host


9 AM, December 6

09:02 techrightssec2; ack

09:30 schestowitz-TR; old: Corrupt Mr. breton promoting ILLEGAL system, boosted by BILL GATES-bribed 'media' https://www.euractiv.com/section/digital/news/breton-renews-calls-for-a-single-european-patent-system/

↺ https://www.euractiv.com/section/digital/news/breton-renews-calls-for-a-single-european-patent-system/

09:30 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Breton renews calls for a single European patent system EURACTIV.com

09:34 techrightssec2; yes

09:54 techrightssec2; ack


10 AM, December 6

10:19 techrightssec2; Will look at wget and the gallery later today to test a few things

10:19 techrightssec2; https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3762836-big-tech-and-its-critics-lash-out-at-journalism-measure/

↺ https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3762836-big-tech-and-its-critics-lash-out-at-journalism-measure/

10:19 techrightssec2; ^ topic ?

10:19 techrightssec2; https://advocacy.consumerreports.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/September-2_Letter-to-Senate_JCPA.pdf

↺ https://advocacy.consumerreports.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/September-2_Letter-to-Senate_JCPA.pdf

10:19 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thehill.com | Big tech and its critics lash out at journalism measure | The Hill

10:21 schestowitz-TR; US 'democracy': the corporate dictotors drop stuff into NDAA

10:21 schestowitz-TR; bypassing an actual, real vote on proposals

10:21 schestowitz-TR; techdirt did a good bit on this yesterday as well

10:23 schestowitz-TR; "Journalism Competition and Preservation Act (JCPA)" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/12/05/is-it-possible-to-get-fair-coverage-of-the-link-tax-bill-when-the-news-orgs-covering-it-are-the-main-beneficiaries/ | Source: Techdirt

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/12/05/is-it-possible-to-get-fair-coverage-of-the-link-tax-bill-when-the-news-orgs-covering-it-are-the-main-beneficiaries/

10:23 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Is It Possible To Get Fair Coverage Of The Link Tax Bill When The News Orgs Covering It Are The Main Beneficiaries? | Techdirt

10:26 schestowitz-TR; rianne watches the video about lowering power usage a second time

10:39 techrightssec2; Yes, Techdirt has asked the right questions there.

10:39 schestowitz-TR; admfubar put that in the irc channel yesterday, before that came into kate editor

10:43 techrightssec2; Piggybacking "riders" into must-pass legislation is toxic and anti-American

10:43 techrightssec2; Notice that it's not just that most of the coverage is afflicted by severe

10:43 techrightssec2; conflicts of interest, but that almost the only sites covering it at all are

10:43 techrightssec2; overseas: India, UK, Australia, etc

10:43 techrightssec2; The US-based business don't want the matter examined in any way, shape, or form.


11 AM, December 6

11:44 schestowitz-TR; "in and our of hospital"

11:44 schestowitz-TR; relatives after taking the shots last year

11:44 schestowitz-TR; accoding to family

11:44 schestowitz-TR; just got new ONS data

11:44 schestowitz-TR; eta 5 mins

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11:50 schestowitz-TR; UK Still Experiences About 1,500 More Deaths Per Week (or 78,000 Per Year) Than Before COVID-19 Average https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/12/06/deaths-per-week-47/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/12/06/deaths-per-week-47/

11:50 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive UK Still Experiences About 1,500 More Deaths Per Week (or 78,000 Per Year) Than Before COVID-19 Average


noon, December 6

12:03 schestowitz-TR; In Week 47 (ONS Released the Full Provisional Figures Moments Ago), Adults Aged 15-44 Saw 27% Rise in Deaths (2022 Compared to 2019) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/12/06/ons-week-47/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/12/06/ons-week-47/

12:03 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive In Week 47 (ONS Released the Full Provisional Figures Moments Ago), Adults Aged 15-44 Saw 27% Rise in Deaths (2022 Compared to 2019)

12:06 schestowitz-TR; rather consistent across weeks

12:06 schestowitz-TR; and 2019 was NOT a good year

12:06 schestowitz-TR; compared to 2015-18

12:06 schestowitz-TR; the numbers would be even worse if compared to pre covid averages

12:06 schestowitz-TR; john is singing and rhyming gulag guidelines to avoid channel bans

12:06 schestowitz-TR; but he semi-joking about how "this platform" requires him to say this and that

12:06 schestowitz-TR; I guess it might be similar with topics like crypto [sic], Linux, Ukraine..

12:06 schestowitz-TR; google is sort of bossing from the shadows

12:06 schestowitz-TR; for sponsors and special interests

12:08 techrightssec2; ack

12:08 techrightssec2; ack

12:08 techrightssec2; yes, I suspect that one also has to sing the praises of m$ or at least windoze

12:08 techrightssec2; in order to keep a youtube channel unbanned

12:08 techrightssec2; or at least keep it monetized

12:08 techrightssec2; yes of course

12:08 techrightssec2; they *really* hate Kodi, too

12:08 schestowitz-TR; they can ban you for anything to justify the outcome pre-chosen

12:08 schestowitz-TR; like, you covered this software several years ago

12:08 schestowitz-TR; this application COULD be used for something bad

12:38 schestowitz-TR; Rumour: Very Large Microsoft Layoffs (Another Round) Next Month, Lists Already Being Prepared | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/12/06/microsoft-layoffs-in-2023/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/12/06/microsoft-layoffs-in-2023/

http://techrights.org/2022/12/06/microsoft-layoffs-in-2023/

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/12/06/microsoft-layoffs-in-2023/

12:38 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Rumour: Very Large Microsoft Layoffs (Another Round) Next Month, Lists Already Being Prepared | Techrights

12:38 schestowitz-TR; it is a good thing I psnt time (days) figuring outr where to post videos

12:38 schestowitz-TR; wrong platform -> different message (self-ensorship)

12:42 techrightssec2; ack

12:42 techrightssec2; Self-censorship is what they aim for. It saves them work. Orwell referred to

12:42 techrightssec2; it as "newspeak" but the kids these days, not having read anything, coined

12:42 techrightssec2; the term "algospeak" but which amounts to the exact same thing.


1 PM, December 6

13:23 techrightssec2; Many of the "big tech" firms have been going through multiple rounds of layoffs

13:23 techrightssec2; all year. Maybe an aggregation could be written up.

13:23 techrightssec2; at the year end

13:23 techrightssec2; ^ topic ?

13:34 schestowitz-TR; yeah, that might match up ok with current series


2 PM, December 6

14:12 schestowitz-TR; manchin https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/12/05/groups-warn-pelosi-schumer-against-allowing-manchin-dirty-deal-pentagon-spending | Source: Common Dreams

↺ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/12/05/groups-warn-pelosi-schumer-against-allowing-manchin-dirty-deal-pentagon-spending

14:12 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Groups Warn Pelosi, Schumer Against Allowing Manchin 'Dirty Deal' in Pentagon Spending Bill

14:22 schestowitz-TR; sorry if I sound a tad cynical

14:22 schestowitz-TR; it's a good era to be into cynicism

14:24 schestowitz-TR; yale https://truthout.org/video/students-sue-yale-for-pressuring-those-with-mental-health-needs-to-withdraw/ | Source: TruthOut

↺ https://truthout.org/video/students-sue-yale-for-pressuring-those-with-mental-health-needs-to-withdraw/

14:24 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | Students Sue Yale for Pressuring Those With Mental Health Needs to Withdraw - Truthout

14:25 schestowitz-TR; meanwhile it seems like you need to pretend or escalate to management or...

14:25 schestowitz-TR; just to get a GP appointment here

14:25 schestowitz-TR; otherwise they're like, can you not do this online?

14:25 schestowitz-TR; are you dying yet?

14:26 schestowitz-TR; "Smart" cars = cars for people who aren't smart enough to figure out where this is all going https://www.techdirt.com/2022/12/05/law-enforcement-is-extracting-tons-of-data-from-vehicle-infotainment-systems/ | Source: Techdirt

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/12/05/law-enforcement-is-extracting-tons-of-data-from-vehicle-infotainment-systems/

14:26 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Law Enforcement Is Extracting Tons Of Data From Vehicle Infotainment Systems | Techdirt


3 PM, December 6

15:15 schestowitz-TR; sam varghese sort of vanished again after a couple of months doing many articles

15:44 techrightssec2; Manchin is out of line and making inappropriate maneuvers to obstruct the

15:44 techrightssec2; party (and nation) he ostensibly belongs to.

15:44 schestowitz-TR; working against the common good and for the rich super-minority is how some people make money

15:45 techrightssec2; Sam was about the last good writer they had there at ITWire

15:45 techrightssec2; Manchin owes his personal and political wealth entirely to the fossil fuel

15:45 techrightssec2; industry; There are enough conflicts of interest to keep him out of office

15:45 techrightssec2; in a less corrupt administration.

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15:53 schestowitz-TR; wb, starstreak

15:55 starstreak; schestowitz-TR, hey hey hey

15:55 starstreak; attack surface btw

15:56 starstreak; i've been playing a lot of world of warcraft lately


4 PM, December 6

16:01 schestowitz-TR; The EU AI Act must protect people on the move https://www.accessnow.org/joint-statement-ai-act-people-on-the-move/ Source: AccessNow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/joint-statement-ai-act-people-on-the-move/

↺ https://www.accessnow.org/joint-statement-ai-act-people-on-the-move/

↺ gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/joint-statement-ai-act-people-on-the-move/

16:01 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.accessnow.org | The EU AI Act must protect people on the move

16:01 schestowitz-TR; EU AI Act must protect all people, regardless of migration status - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/eu-ai-act-migration-status/ Source: AccessNow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/eu-ai-act-migration-status/

↺ https://www.accessnow.org/eu-ai-act-migration-status/

↺ gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/eu-ai-act-migration-status/

16:01 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.accessnow.org | EU AI Act must protect all people, regardless of migration status - Access Now


5 PM, December 6

17:01 schestowitz-TR; goint to record 4 videos in a while

17:01 schestowitz-TR; 3 about the topics suggested by you

17:23 techrightssec2; ack

17:58 schestowitz-TR; otax4


6 PM, December 6

18:54 schestowitz-TR; i think they went reasonably well

18:54 schestowitz-TR; typing and encoding now

18:55 schestowitz-TR; this workflow of format of 4-6 videos in a row is fantastic

18:55 schestowitz-TR; it also encourages me to write more

18:56 techrightssec2; ack


7 PM, December 6

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19:47 techrightssec2; ack


8 PM, December 6

20:08 techrightssec2; checking

20:08 schestowitz-TR; draft windows

20:08 techrightssec2; checking


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