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08:02 schestowitz-TR; gulag search has begun indexing and presenting pertinent pages in new.tm

08:02 schestowitz-TR; I'm just checking as you said they would not be indexing new sites, or barely

08:02 schestowitz-TR; I think it follows links from IRC logs

08:02 schestowitz-TR; rianne has gotten comfortable with the submission process

08:02 schestowitz-TR; yesterday she got stuck and DB was locked again when she gave up

08:02 schestowitz-TR; turns out it was ampersand

08:02 schestowitz-TR; sometimes they are inside URLs and sometimes no spaces between them

08:02 schestowitz-TR; I told her to find them and change/remove them

08:31 schestowitz-TR; gm, cheers fore the links

08:32 Techrights-sec; np

08:32 Techrights-sec; tidy produces some warnings, but they are maybe not the easiest to spot

08:32 Techrights-sec; the locking in sqlite3 is quite simplified but it is important

08:32 schestowitz-TR; I've found a new way o show in context android vs windows

08:32 schestowitz-TR; today I'll look closely into the pi and how to make it work better esp. ipfs

08:37 schestowitz-TR; wow, today just 3 new items in counterpunch rss feeds

08:37 schestowitz-TR; there used to be like 50 or more

08:37 schestowitz-TR; btw, when tuxmachines has rss feed (I saw you started coding it yesterday) we can submit that to some sites

08:37 schestowitz-TR; and give it visibility

08:37 schestowitz-TR; last night I did a 2-min video about linuxtoday

08:37 schestowitz-TR; it has since then published 2 more webspam

08:45 Techrights-sec; ack

08:45 Techrights-sec; yes, but we should probably be blocking the spiders until the site is in

08:45 Techrights-sec; production, it is not wise to drive traffic to a site still in late alpha

08:45 Techrights-sec; stage

08:45 Techrights-sec; btw EXT ACLs needed adjusting again. EXT sure is difficult in a shared context

08:45 Techrights-sec; afaik nowhere else has used MQTT for Git notifications

08:46 schestowitz-TR; it is very plausable as many things we do in TR and TM we do for the first time esp. in the context of gemini and to some extent ipfs

08:46 schestowitz-TR; because they're young and small

08:46 schestowitz-TR; on www, doing things first or being first is harder because it's hard to keep track of everything that goes on there

08:46 schestowitz-TR; even in irc we 'innovated' a number of things

08:46 schestowitz-TR; but not something truly major

08:46 schestowitz-TR; you can add something on top of an existing protocol or combined protocol

08:46 schestowitz-TR; like using gemini to give an up-toi-date index of hashes for ipfs

08:46 schestowitz-TR; when you push to git the system bell and visible popup in knotify will tell me

08:46 schestowitz-TR; then I run the script to see, with colour, all the latest changes in the two repos

08:46 schestowitz-TR; *plausible

08:48 Techrights-sec; yes

08:48 Techrights-sec; one could make a public MQTT broker, one where the clients don't have to

08:48 Techrights-sec; identify themselves, and use it to push a subset of RSS :/

08:48 Techrights-sec; nice

08:49 schestowitz-TR; what you said about public mqtt broker occurred to me ysterday

08:49 schestowitz-TR; rss with less bandiwith

08:49 schestowitz-TR; push versus pull

08:49 schestowitz-TR; like push notifications, but for site updates with another protcol

08:49 schestowitz-TR; I forgot the name of the protocol of push notification, there are at least a couple

08:52 schestowitz-TR; vis-a-vis gitlab is canning many projects to "save" 11 million a year

08:52 schestowitz-TR; all that social control media loss leader BS

08:52 schestowitz-TR; they were used to give people push notifications to their fake friends

08:52 schestowitz-TR; over phoens etc.

08:52 schestowitz-TR; at cost of abndwidth

08:52 schestowitz-TR; but those people are now locked in to that vendor-specific push notif "disservice

08:52 schestowitz-TR; so they cannot quit

08:52 schestowitz-TR; or, if they do, their 'friends' ' "phones" will no longer notify them

08:52 schestowitz-TR; so people must learn to

08:52 schestowitz-TR; a) self host (it's not free)

08:52 schestowitz-TR; (see gitlab)

08:52 schestowitz-TR; b) do theior own notifications, e.g. blog doamin with rss, do not outsoutce. gulag youtube no longer notified ssubscribers, it's not as addictive as

08:52 schestowitz-TR; aujtoplay at end and "suggestions"

08:52 schestowitz-TR; and infinite scrolls

08:53 Techrights-sec; yes, http is an inefficient wrapper

08:53 Techrights-sec; but it would require an MQTT client as a browser pluging and I'm not sure

08:53 Techrights-sec; what the upper limit on connections would be at the broker level.

08:53 Techrights-sec; There is a test broker which sees heavy traffic:

08:53 Techrights-sec; https://test.mosquitto.org/

↺ https://test.mosquitto.org/

08:53 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-test.mosquitto.org

08:57 schestowitz-TR; re mosquitto, I don't know the protocol

08:57 schestowitz-TR; but I can imagine it habitually pings the clients to make sure it's still alive and the IP address is still current

08:57 schestowitz-TR; so that when there's a message on $topic, it'll send a notification to all the right sessions, if they're not expired

08:57 schestowitz-TR; so there must be some "pulses" going on even when there is no update to send

08:57 schestowitz-TR; there are other factors that evade me atm, but those protocols suck because they give ytou stuff TODO

08:57 schestowitz-TR; evcen when you're not prepared, not when you actually ask for any

08:57 schestowitz-TR; that's why I check my email; at most once a day

08:57 schestowitz-TR; rss: "boss, I'm free now. give me work please."

08:57 schestowitz-TR; notifications/email always-on: "danny, sorry for interrupting you, I have another thing for you to do"

08:58 Techrights-sec; mosquitto is one set of programs, MQTT is the protoco. It's rather simple.

08:58 Techrights-sec; if I understand correctly it mainly uses TCP itself to maintain the connection

08:58 Techrights-sec; yes push vs pull

08:58 Techrights-sec; one of the reasons the Web took off was because it was pull


9 AM, August 6

09:00 schestowitz-TR; brb, handover at work

09:01 schestowitz-TR; email can be "pull" also

09:01 schestowitz-TR; it used to be in the dial-up era

09:01 schestowitz-TR; guess which is more addictive, more stressful, and which harms productivity

09:02 Techrights-sec; yes but too many idiots mistake webmail for e-mail and due to the inconvenience

09:02 Techrights-sec; of web mail, combined with them leaving it on 24/7, mistake e-mail for being

09:02 Techrights-sec; difficult. They are confusing terrible client software with the protocol itself

09:02 Techrights-sec; and GAFAM aims to make that confusion worse in an apparent attempt to gain

09:02 Techrights-sec; control over the relevant protocols and turn them into a proprietary service

09:02 Techrights-sec; which they alone control and monitor

09:02 Techrights-sec; ack

09:12 schestowitz-TR; done

09:12 schestowitz-TR; free again

09:12 schestowitz-TR; what I'd like to know is

09:12 schestowitz-TR; and I've said it out loud for 3-4 years already

09:12 schestowitz-TR; where are people "online" going?

09:12 schestowitz-TR; no doubt the www is perishing

09:12 schestowitz-TR; I think because of 'webapps' and 'apps'

09:12 schestowitz-TR; but I'm out of touch

09:12 schestowitz-TR; because I did not embrace fashionable consumerism

09:12 schestowitz-TR; so I don't know what tiktok and "apps" are like in 2022

09:12 schestowitz-TR; it's like asking rms about systemd

09:12 schestowitz-TR; (he said he never installed gnu/linux himself)

09:13 schestowitz-TR; or asking the amish about tractors

09:18 Techrights-sec; ack

09:18 schestowitz-TR; rms has been very focused on giving talks

09:18 schestowitz-TR; and studying threats

09:18 schestowitz-TR; which is fair enough

09:18 schestowitz-TR; he lets the others help him with technical things, inc. operationg (they're like his "shabbos goys")

09:18 schestowitz-TR; but when it comes to some of those "phone" things I too must admit, I'm in the dark

09:18 schestowitz-TR; also, I never saw a spy meter

09:19 schestowitz-TR; but the main concern is, 1) they are NOT needed 2) they will get worse over time (more sensors)

09:19 schestowitz-TR; with routers you could argue there is a necessity

09:19 schestowitz-TR; spy meters are an extension to the router which exists for a single purpose that's not requiring yet another piece of ewaste

09:22 Techrights-sec; ack

09:22 Techrights-sec; probably

09:22 Techrights-sec; one contributing factor is the load that idle wall warts put on the grid

09:22 schestowitz-TR; this morning in geminispace (latest, planet)

09:22 schestowitz-TR; I read not one but two posts on energy problems

09:22 schestowitz-TR; more connection and electric issues

09:22 schestowitz-TR; combined with what rianne told me about the tram and outages in shops

09:22 schestowitz-TR; I'm starting to wonder if there's an energy crisis the media says too little about

09:23 schestowitz-TR; and it not limited just to price

09:23 schestowitz-TR; I can find you the two gemini:// links

09:23 schestowitz-TR; I put them in the irc channel actualluy

09:23 schestowitz-TR; I hope out Network/Internet uptime will still be good and no UPS will be needed

09:24 schestowitz-TR; UPS = more manufacturing (waste), much like A/C to 'combat' heating

09:24 schestowitz-TR; then it draws up some power

09:24 schestowitz-TR; they tell us spy meters will help save energy

09:25 schestowitz-TR; as if they're made out of thin air and run on "thetans"

09:25 schestowitz-TR; (same for EVs)

09:28 schestowitz-TR; our current router (installed january 2021 IIRC, after our complaints; the engineer told us to demand a new one) has very good uptime

09:28 schestowitz-TR; and no network hangups, or very rare ones

09:28 schestowitz-TR; I don't take this for granted; it wasn't like this before

09:28 schestowitz-TR; the upstream provider (ISP) has also been OK since then

09:28 schestowitz-TR; when I had networ problem it was electic outage or my own mistakes (or oven triggering a fuse)

09:28 schestowitz-TR; "you don't appreciate things... until you lose them..."

09:28 schestowitz-TR; "Since I've started hosting shit.cx from home, my internet and electricity has been more unreliable than ever." gemini://shit.cx/tech/meta/2022-08-05-so-much-downtime-/

↺ gemini://shit.cx/tech/meta/2022-08-05-so-much-downtime-/

09:32 Techrights-sec; ack

09:37 schestowitz-TR; I exported my own router settings (less than 150 lines) to a file

09:37 schestowitz-TR; it lets you save the most hedious sort of file you even saw

09:37 schestowitz-TR; it's like a soup of binary and ascii

09:37 schestowitz-TR; but you can see bits and bobs that you put in

09:37 schestowitz-TR; they don't use ini or json or xml

09:37 schestowitz-TR; it's ridiculous

09:37 schestowitz-TR; I saved these last summer when they "tried" to= put us on fibre (first home in this area)

09:37 schestowitz-TR; and I wanted to be able to import the same stuff into the "new" router

09:37 schestowitz-TR; which looks exactly the same, except minor differencee

09:37 schestowitz-TR; and BT gave me conflicting messages about compatibility

09:37 schestowitz-TR; either way, they seemed unready to support this new service

09:38 schestowitz-TR; and I reckoned as an "experiment" I would get worse services

09:38 schestowitz-TR; lack of expirtise and effect on only one user, not whole block of homes

09:38 schestowitz-TR; they compensated us almost 100 pounds for all the trouble

09:38 schestowitz-TR; we still have the fibre equipment, not connected to the socket, inside the home

09:38 schestowitz-TR; it'll come in handy as this sort of service matures sufficiently

09:38 Techrights-sec; JSON?

09:43 schestowitz-TR; not json

09:44 schestowitz-TR; I could send you the file, but somewhere in it there are likely passwords

09:44 schestowitz-TR; without power, you typically can have no connections

09:44 schestowitz-TR; without connections you could still have power

09:44 schestowitz-TR; the other day (tue.) when the power was off I went us to be productive

09:44 schestowitz-TR; rianne said that she'd rather have no power than no running water

09:44 schestowitz-TR; but in winter you cannot bathe without some level of water heating

09:44 schestowitz-TR; call me sceptics or paranoid, but jusding by trends I read about, cost won't be the sole issue

09:44 schestowitz-TR; when it comes to CLEAN water being available or a steadfy flow of power

09:44 schestowitz-TR; In african there is this thing called GPL that showed up in my feeds

09:44 schestowitz-TR; they have lots of outages and sometimes even planned blackouts

09:44 schestowitz-TR; like, you need to prepare for times of the day without power

09:44 schestowitz-TR; and charge applicance accordingly

09:44 schestowitz-TR; this, to me, is a whole new concept/monster

09:44 schestowitz-TR; power "share" or rationing

09:44 schestowitz-TR; I'd hate to live in a world with water rationing

09:44 schestowitz-TR; at the moment they just have things like "hose bans"

09:44 schestowitz-TR; you sent me a link about spain trying to limit or police A/C thermostats

09:44 schestowitz-TR; maybe first in public places where enforcers can go

09:44 schestowitz-TR; maybe later in proprietary firmware..

09:44 schestowitz-TR; spy meters come to mind here

09:44 schestowitz-TR; why you might NOT want to have one

09:44 schestowitz-TR; give me the bits (network)

09:44 schestowitz-TR; give me water

09:44 schestowitz-TR; give me voltage

09:44 schestowitz-TR; how it's used is my own gaddamn business

09:53 schestowitz-TR; ---

09:53 schestowitz-TR; rianne said that in mindanao they used to have power rationing or outtage hours (planned)

09:53 schestowitz-TR; and in manila is there's elnino they do awater ratiuoning too

09:54 Techrights-sec; water distribution is becoming more unsteady and uneven

09:54 Techrights-sec; in places which still have water it is coming more often in large doses

09:54 Techrights-sec; rather than spread out over time

09:54 Techrights-sec; many place have had power rationing but in many situations it is due to

09:54 Techrights-sec; privatization because it is not profitable to deploy more capacity until

09:54 Techrights-sec; there is more demand. Brownouts, however, destroy equipment, even heavy

09:54 Techrights-sec; stuff like refrigerators

09:54 Techrights-sec; again the various wastages cause problems with load;

09:54 Techrights-sec; at the scale that "smartphones" are deployed worldwide, and given that

09:54 Techrights-sec; they need to be recharged muliptle times per day, they are collectively

09:54 Techrights-sec; probably one of the world's largest drains on the grid

09:54 Techrights-sec; ... if considered as a single line item

09:57 schestowitz-TR; btw, did you see the post about android in africa?

09:57 schestowitz-TR; wow, 18% windows... no wonder the media is too busy harping about "chrome OS" vs "Windows"

09:57 schestowitz-TR; living in a more GAFAM universe where everyone can blow $1000 on a laptop instead of

09:57 schestowitz-TR; a budget $100 "smart" phone from "belt and braces" land

09:58 Techrights-sec; "tracking devices which also happen to make calls"


10 AM, August 6

10:03 schestowitz-TR; rianne now telling me rocking firdge stories

10:03 schestowitz-TR; due to unsteady power levels in some places

10:03 schestowitz-TR; you know, last week I tried to recall who came up with that sentence

10:03 schestowitz-TR; not sure if it was ioerror, or me (maybe he repeated me), or rms, or maybe we all borrowed that from someone else

10:03 schestowitz-TR; rms said "stalin's dream"

10:03 schestowitz-TR; "also happen to make calls" is jake

10:03 schestowitz-TR; but maybe inspired by something he had read from me

10:03 schestowitz-TR; it's not important anyway

10:03 schestowitz-TR; I can at least say I popularised some terms, not big like "brexit"

10:03 schestowitz-TR; but still... changing how people communicate issues and the vocabulary helps tackle issues

10:03 schestowitz-TR; openwashing became more widespread

10:03 schestowitz-TR; fauxopen never caught on sflc said "giveUpGithub"

10:03 Techrights-sec; "tracking devices which also happen to make calls"

10:03 Techrights-sec; I think it was jake

10:03 Techrights-sec; at least he was the first early on

10:03 Techrights-sec; ack

10:04 schestowitz-TR; I wondered the same and I assumed it was coined by him, based on nothing but me seeing him adopting and using the term a lot

10:10 schestowitz-TR; masnick did a number of important things/contributions in the vocabulary sense, but like godwin with "godwin's law"

10:10 schestowitz-TR; masnick did "streisand effect"

10:10 schestowitz-TR; which is still in use to this dy

10:10 schestowitz-TR; of course techdirt lost much of the influence it had in the golden era of the web after msie was elbowed aside

10:10 Techrights-sec; ack

10:10 Techrights-sec; I should read techdirt more often. When he sticks to purely technical matters

10:10 Techrights-sec; he and tech policy, he is quite good. But on other topics he exhibits some

10:10 Techrights-sec; signs of severe social control media poisoning

10:16 schestowitz-TR; he or his colleagues are sceptical of regulations and too defensive of 1) gafam 2) social control media

10:16 schestowitz-TR; calling everything a "panic" even where legitimate concerns do exist

10:16 schestowitz-TR; I don't read techdirt outside of kate text editor, so I honestly don't know who writes what

10:16 schestowitz-TR; I don't even know if moody sitll writes there

10:16 schestowitz-TR; observation: techdirt used to get over 200 comments per post, for good posts at least

10:16 schestowitz-TR; nowadays it's often less than a dozen... last I checkede

10:16 schestowitz-TR; but techdirt does not do irc and never did irc

10:16 schestowitz-TR; so for mike and co to receive feedback from readers they rely too much on sh*t like twitter

10:16 schestowitz-TR; and are unable to let go

10:16 schestowitz-TR; feedback is importat

10:16 schestowitz-TR; I don't know the words to explain the phenomenon

10:16 schestowitz-TR; but writing to a wall or getting no sensory feedback is hard

10:17 schestowitz-TR; even if you know someone reads it

10:17 schestowitz-TR; like publishing a book, not knowing anything except how many copies were printed (not sold)

10:17 schestowitz-TR; and what the readrs thing

10:17 schestowitz-TR; amazon "reviews" is astroturf zone

10:17 schestowitz-TR; ripe for the liks of clickfraud spamnil

10:17 schestowitz-TR; igor diedomedo has not published books or blog posts in a while

10:17 schestowitz-TR; last I saw he was busy toying around with proprietary 3-d modeling s/w

10:17 schestowitz-TR; and is gradually weaning himself OFF windows

10:18 Techrights-sec; sometimes

10:18 Techrights-sec; I really wish Glyn would have some kind of syndication because I will go to

10:18 Techrights-sec; a site specifically to read what he wrote even if it's a site I would otherwise

10:18 Techrights-sec; not prioritize

10:18 Techrights-sec; some of that is the public is no longer used to being allowed to comment

10:23 schestowitz-TR; moody's work is widely scattred by the virtue of his ability to do gainful employment as a writer

10:23 schestowitz-TR; ars, linux journal, techdirt...

10:23 schestowitz-TR; I sadly wasted many years writing shit in social control media where I could do a better job writing the same in my Weblog from 2004

10:23 schestowitz-TR; I'm making up for it now, little by little...

10:23 schestowitz-TR; some american cousins of mine read it for sure

10:23 schestowitz-TR; remember that tuxmachines still has an android "app", but I don't know if it is compatible with latest android versions

10:23 schestowitz-TR; it's basically a preloaded RSS reader

10:23 schestowitz-TR; with push notifications something better can be done

10:23 schestowitz-TR; but don't want to condone use of spyphones

10:23 schestowitz-TR; the other day on rianne's laptop I tested web-based access to irc @ tuxmachines

10:23 schestowitz-TR; there are about 20-25 users online in that channels

10:23 schestowitz-TR; it shows site updates

10:23 schestowitz-TR; but no real community there

10:23 schestowitz-TR; szombie community of sorts

10:23 schestowitz-TR; like #phoronix was in freenode

10:23 schestowitz-TR; before pulling the plug

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10:43 schestowitz-TR; self-hosting is better for self-taught, skilling etc. imho

10:43 schestowitz-TR; too many people skip many stages by just "opening an account"

10:43 schestowitz-TR; e.g. vps

10:43 schestowitz-TR; and come to assume a lot about netblocks, hardware etc.

10:43 schestowitz-TR; so they can never properly provision and do things

10:43 schestowitz-TR; mind you, I was never sys admin

10:43 schestowitz-TR; I'm a programmer

10:43 schestowitz-TR; not very pracitising since my phd days

10:43 schestowitz-TR; as I do more writing

10:44 schestowitz-TR; but being "dev op" (bs term) means you have more control over the stack

10:44 schestowitz-TR; some "ops", like oiaohm, cannot do any programming

10:44 schestowitz-TR; some "users", like daemonfc, can't do dev or ops

10:44 schestowitz-TR; but still "get" a lot of tech

10:44 schestowitz-TR; toay's uni grads probably get the worst of all worlds

10:44 schestowitz-TR; a) accounts, not self-hosting

10:44 schestowitz-TR; (e.g. gmail, aws)

10:44 schestowitz-TR; b) fake programming ("frameworks"), not even "swing" in java but stuff like vue.js and electron

10:44 schestowitz-TR; c) windows, "apps" etc.

10:44 schestowitz-TR; so basically they end up paceled off to GAFAM-ish "IMPOSED-FROM-ABOVE" agenda

10:44 schestowitz-TR; and therefore aren't employable by companies that actually get stuff done

10:49 schestowitz-TR; unpopular theory:

10:49 schestowitz-TR; computers are being made worse

10:49 schestowitz-TR; and programming tools too

10:49 schestowitz-TR; among other stuff

10:49 schestowitz-TR; to take back power from the "people"

10:49 schestowitz-TR; and weaken resistance or unionisation, leaking without consequences

10:49 schestowitz-TR; as it's assumed that people were given "too powerful" or general-purpose computiong

10:49 schestowitz-TR; and now it's time to disemplower them by presenting them with inferior but "UX" (cargo cult) toys

10:49 schestowitz-TR; like AWS accounts instead of an environment one can control (in 2010 already AAWS kicked out wikileaks; iirc, aws was not even profitable back then)

10:49 schestowitz-TR; chats are being centralised and people's clients are not making secure connections

10:49 schestowitz-TR; because "kids somethjing,,,," or "terror attacks"

10:49 schestowitz-TR; whether it is all planned and deliberate would be difficult to prove (who? wef? nato? where is the "conspiracy")

10:49 schestowitz-TR; hence it's more of an hypothesis

10:49 schestowitz-TR; good luck provinmg it without being dubbed "crank"

10:50 Techrights-sec; there are only 24 hours per day

10:50 Techrights-sec; yep

10:50 Techrights-sec; on purpose

10:50 Techrights-sec; I would suspect that to be the case, too

10:50 Techrights-sec; the proprietary "cloud" stuff falls under that umbrella too

10:50 Techrights-sec; it takes away the commodity nature of the systems

10:50 Techrights-sec; note that accidentally at first all the anti-spam measures have done nothing

10:51 Techrights-sec; more than centralize control over online written communication, and not really

10:51 Techrights-sec; addressed actual spam

10:51 Techrights-sec; "think of the children" == root passphrase

10:51 Techrights-sec; to bypass democracy and just about anything else

10:51 schestowitz-TR; [21:46] <techrights-news> Bill Gates-bribed news [sic] papers try to associate accusation of high-profile pedophilia with the far right. Meanwhile Gates was working behind the scenes to enable Jeffrey Esptein. Guardian sees nothing wrong with it, uses straw men instead. https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/12/conspirituality-is-pervasive-but-why/

↺ https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/12/conspirituality-is-pervasive-but-why/

10:51 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-stop.zona-m.net | Conspirituality is pervasive, but why? | Stop at Zona-M

10:52 schestowitz-TR; his blog is spitting out updates again in rss

10:52 schestowitz-TR; for the first time this year, I think

10:52 schestowitz-TR; that blog is a mess

10:52 schestowitz-TR; drafts, missing stuff... it's like a desk with papers all over the place...

10:52 Techrights-sec; ack

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10:57 schestowitz-TR; I was thinking late last night

10:57 schestowitz-TR; or our repo of articles about epo

10:57 schestowitz-TR; in the context ofm whether the capsule still updatesd the wiki mirror ok

10:57 schestowitz-TR; if the epo goes under, it'll have impact on a number of orgs connected to it

10:57 schestowitz-TR; if not the profession in general

10:57 schestowitz-TR; I was also concerned about two or three irc users

10:57 schestowitz-TR; one connects "us" to nuttery

10:57 schestowitz-TR; two can connect us to "far right"

10:57 schestowitz-TR; if people aren't careful in grasping what irc is

10:57 schestowitz-TR; and our very liberal policy on speech

10:58 schestowitz-TR; I think the best approach is to rebut the BS, even insult the BS

10:58 schestowitz-TR; and make it clear the opinion is fringe even among us and we don't leave that unchallenged

10:58 schestowitz-TR; kaniini temporarily banned phanes a month ago

10:58 schestowitz-TR; after I had been told of a plan to hard-code into the server an INABILITY to ban

10:58 schestowitz-TR; see? epople are good at doing things.... as long as it suits them

10:58 schestowitz-TR; when it doesn't then there are "exceptions"


11 AM, August 6

11:00 Techrights-sec; yes

11:00 Techrights-sec; the nuttery is a means of disparagement through involuntary association

11:00 schestowitz-TR; the person was fedora ambassador for a while

11:00 schestowitz-TR; and even before changing name the person had already been into that crazy theory

11:00 schestowitz-TR; so many the identity change is connected to narcotics use

11:00 schestowitz-TR; or, as per admission, autism

11:00 schestowitz-TR; we cannot ban people for that, we need to learn how to better deal with it

11:06 schestowitz-TR; we've lasted as a site and as online community (irc is one of several means) for 1.5 decades

11:06 schestowitz-TR; so we must have done _some_ things right

11:06 schestowitz-TR; having said that, there's always room for improvement

11:06 schestowitz-TR; technical aspects of the improvements are important

11:06 schestowitz-TR; I have some ideas for TR capsule

11:06 schestowitz-TR; but work keeps "wasting" time

11:06 schestowitz-TR; and they don't let me go easily (still no updates from them)

11:06 schestowitz-TR; at least we get paid in the meantime, so I cannot complain

11:06 schestowitz-TR; I want to set up automated backup on the pi (external disk, 3tb, is already plugged in and even though it is mounted only user "pi" can 'see' it)

11:06 schestowitz-TR; the backup job is already a script, but it's not cronned

11:06 schestowitz-TR; next week I'll get more spare usb sticks to burn clones onto

11:07 schestowitz-TR; I like how the pi makes "hot spares"... plug and play

11:07 schestowitz-TR; the worst outage was when debian 10 died and we had to rebuild again on debian 11 in around jan 2022

11:07 schestowitz-TR; even though I have an up-to-date backup of /home

11:15 schestowitz-TR; just done a full sanity check ont eh pi forbulletin and irc archives

11:15 schestowitz-TR; tldr: there were two gaps

11:15 schestowitz-TR; one for the clone to preseent (march to august

11:15 schestowitz-TR; another for latest backup to present (july to august)

11:15 schestowitz-TR; I can see there are no gaps left

11:15 schestowitz-TR; also for blog posts I think it completed he gaps

11:15 schestowitz-TR; and the wiki

11:15 schestowitz-TR; I'm going to check how long a full backup to magnetic disk takes from usb (on sd card system it was rather fast, maybe under 1 hour)

11:15 Techrights-sec; yes, it's a nice feature being able to just move storage media pretty much

11:15 Techrights-sec; interchangeably

11:15 Techrights-sec; ack

11:17 schestowitz-TR; rianne's rsp400 also means we have a spare physical machines, either way

11:17 schestowitz-TR; she can use mine and plug in external keyboard

11:17 schestowitz-TR; now it's hard to get spares for s reasonable price w

11:17 schestowitz-TR; when she bought one just before the war (shortages worsened) it cost about 70 pounds

11:17 schestowitz-TR; iirc, it launched for retail price of about 50

11:19 Techrights-sec; The main downside to the RPi is that it is now very hard to get them

11:19 Techrights-sec; but you have more options there in the UK for now as to where to buy them

11:19 schestowitz-TR; you can probably find them off ebay, but it would take days to ship, hence no >hot_ spare

11:21 Techrights-sec; the RPi units are so rare in part because of scalpers, such as what you find

11:21 Techrights-sec; on E-Bay :(

11:27 schestowitz-TR; I'd say hold on to what you have, put it to use though

11:27 schestowitz-TR; all our working machines are powered on and help augment workflows

11:27 schestowitz-TR; but that purpose is never immediately obvious

11:27 schestowitz-TR; needs lateral thinking

11:27 schestowitz-TR; I'm going to test duration of full backup now

11:27 schestowitz-TR; ok, it shows time of start

11:27 schestowitz-TR; then tries each device (drive) based on device unique id when mounted

11:27 schestowitz-TR; I'll assess the rate of growth to get estimate of duration

11:27 schestowitz-TR; oh, writing to external disk is still fast I see... 300 mb done in about a minute so far

11:28 Techrights-sec; I presume that is without LUKS encryption

11:28 Techrights-sec; LUKS will slow it down substantially and can make Rsync impossible

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11:36 schestowitz-TR; LUKS has a back door: torture

11:37 schestowitz-TR; psychological in the UK (unless they parcel you off to some CIA "black site")

11:37 schestowitz-TR; I still have my fist and mouth to stave off intruders

11:37 schestowitz-TR; rianne already knows what to do if cops come over (witness for protection, deterrence)

11:37 schestowitz-TR; not that they have ANY legtimate reason to visit

11:37 schestowitz-TR; LUKS is good when you travel physically with a device (e.g. laptop) and it contains sensitive info

11:37 schestowitz-TR; you cannot just access over the network instead

11:37 schestowitz-TR; like travel abaord, then ssh to home

11:37 schestowitz-TR; in which case border control gets just a "blank"

11:37 schestowitz-TR; and ssh does all the security

11:37 schestowitz-TR; rsync does a lot of checksums

11:37 schestowitz-TR; iirc

11:37 schestowitz-TR; you sent me pages, but I only did a very shallow read

11:37 schestowitz-TR; it relies on the files being mostly the same (identical checksum at target and dest)

11:37 schestowitz-TR; otherwise it would be no more efficient than a copy

11:37 schestowitz-TR; even slower is ALL the files are changed entirely

11:37 schestowitz-TR; not "half files"

11:37 schestowitz-TR; or "quarter files"

11:37 schestowitz-TR; slower because it has the overhead of needless comparison

11:37 schestowitz-TR; that results in negatices

11:37 schestowitz-TR; *negatives

11:37 schestowitz-TR; for LUKs, you need to decrypt everything, entirely, then get checksum

11:37 schestowitz-TR; I don't know if LUKS has per-individual-file access to objects

11:37 schestowitz-TR; if it does, maybe you can compare checksums of encrypted objects without dcceprting them fist

11:37 schestowitz-TR; assuming source and dest both use the same encryption key

11:37 schestowitz-TR; and the hashsums do not depend on the allocation of files on encrypted disk

11:37 schestowitz-TR; LUKS creates another risk factor: you getting locked out of your own system

11:37 schestowitz-TR; or damage to disk rendering the whole thing dead

11:37 schestowitz-TR; rather than partial damage

11:37 schestowitz-TR; PC-based encryption or access protection relies on the physical disk not being retreievable by physical access

11:37 schestowitz-TR; LUKS is for when you assume raid is possible and "they" can't get to your machine when it's powered on

11:37 schestowitz-TR; same for openpgp when password token is still stored in RAM

11:39 Techrights-sec; ack

11:39 Techrights-sec; yes, if a bit flips then the whole partition is lost as far as I know

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11:40 schestowitz-TR; wow.... SUPER LAG!!!

11:40 schestowitz-TR; I tried ctrl+s/q a million times

11:40 schestowitz-TR; but it was network

11:40 Techrights-sec; ack

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11:44 schestowitz-TR; assange had his computer on

11:44 schestowitz-TR; while he was kisnapped in the corridor and roughened up

11:44 schestowitz-TR; he had handcuffs in the office

11:44 schestowitz-TR; but he could not use them

11:44 schestowitz-TR; to protect himself from kidnappers

11:44 schestowitz-TR; he was claled to the other room

11:44 schestowitz-TR; where revocation of his nationality was read out to him

11:44 schestowitz-TR; and then he was snatched

11:44 schestowitz-TR; I assuime the laptop they then sent to the un of a

11:44 schestowitz-TR; was first imaged fully, while it was "unlocked"

11:44 schestowitz-TR; they had a decade to prepare for this

11:44 schestowitz-TR; and even audioned a little (coips entereing the enbassy a bit) dats prior

11:44 schestowitz-TR; *audiotned

11:44 schestowitz-TR; *auditioned

11:44 schestowitz-TR; backup now halfway there, so it should take less than one hour all in all

11:44 schestowitz-TR; I'll write a script to wrap this thing up and do a nightly dump of /home/

11:44 schestowitz-TR; maybe a stack for past 3 days

11:44 Techrights-sec; ack

11:44 Techrights-sec; very little coverage of how illegal it was to kidnap him from within the

11:44 Techrights-sec; embassy; it was in violation of major treaties

11:44 Techrights-sec; yet nary a peep

11:47 schestowitz-TR; I hope he deleted identifying details about sources

11:47 schestowitz-TR; they got hundreds of them

11:47 schestowitz-TR; some unpublished

11:47 schestowitz-TR; WL was a leaks magnet not just for US

11:47 schestowitz-TR; snuffing out insiders in international committees

11:47 schestowitz-TR; who might be repeat leakers is of interest to three-letter agencies

11:47 schestowitz-TR; so they can better control what the public knows

11:48 Techrights-sec; yes

11:48 Techrights-sec; s/knows/believes/ :(

11:51 schestowitz-TR; btw, villege idiot steffno from osi s running an evene on "HEY HI"

11:51 schestowitz-TR; OSI is fast becoming a foes of our movement

11:51 schestowitz-TR; and Steff is bagging like $130,000 PER YEAR

11:51 schestowitz-TR; until OSI closes shop

11:51 schestowitz-TR; because it's of no more use to Bill and Lolita

11:51 schestowitz-TR; they are in the PR industry now

11:51 schestowitz-TR; they do nothing else

11:51 schestowitz-TR; no code, no nothing

11:51 schestowitz-TR; meetings on how to message "members" (corporations)

11:51 schestowitz-TR; and how to censor wikipedia... to "p[rotect the gays"

11:53 Techrights-sec; OSI has it out for Software Freedom and even, to a lesser extent, OSS too

11:53 Techrights-sec; uh oh: links within headings within lists:

11:53 Techrights-sec; /gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Android_Leftovers.gmi

11:53 Techrights-sec; https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Android_Leftovers.shtml

↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Android_Leftovers.shtml

11:53 Techrights-sec; checking ...

11:53 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Android Leftovers

11:57 schestowitz-TR; thanks

11:57 schestowitz-TR; we also use the pi as a file server for our open working files

11:57 schestowitz-TR; if the pi goes up in flames, kio slave (oooo!! dont' say dat1!!) will still keep all the open files in kate

11:57 schestowitz-TR; sadly, when the pi died days ago unopened files edited after july 29th lost their latest changes

11:57 schestowitz-TR; that's basically (afaik) two files, todo_archive (stuff I ALREADY gotr done)

11:57 schestowitz-TR; and tuxmachines.txt

11:57 schestowitz-TR; and reboot_notes.tyxt (only updated a little after the last reboot... inventory of things to do and check)

11:57 schestowitz-TR; had I done nightly backups of the pi, I'd not have lost any of these things

11:57 schestowitz-TR; so lessons learned, action taken

11:57 schestowitz-TR; no more SD

11:57 schestowitz-TR; nightly backups highly advisable


noon, August 6

12:04 Techrights-sec; biab

12:11 schestowitz-TR; backup complete. 35 mins.

12:11 schestowitz-TR; 15 gb of tar files

12:11 schestowitz-TR; cronning it now...

12:11 schestowitz-TR; for 1am

12:11 schestowitz-TR; no, better 5am... quieter and AFTER a lot of files get added 2-3am

12:11 schestowitz-TR; doen , cronnned 5:10am will check tomorrow3~3~

12:11 schestowitz-TR; I've fortified the pi some more and more the disk and stuff under a cabinet

12:11 schestowitz-TR; to better protect them from evil miss dust pen

12:11 schestowitz-TR; who kept knocking them over while cleaning

12:11 schestowitz-TR; removing or detaching some pins from the leds

12:11 schestowitz-TR; now the leds are screwed in better

12:11 schestowitz-TR; and the external disk holds down the wires under its weight

12:11 schestowitz-TR; [12:09] <techrights-news> After the latest mega-incident (whole OS and data just died after electric outage) we've set ipfs and gemini @ techrights (among many other things) to back up to external disk automatically every night at 5:10am. That ought to make recovery from disaster a lot more rapid.

12:13 Techrights-sec; ack

12:17 schestowitz-TR; one russian nukes stops them working

12:17 schestowitz-TR; *nuke

12:17 schestowitz-TR; a few seconds after the bright flash

12:17 schestowitz-TR; OK, I see the fix now in git

12:17 schestowitz-TR; no newline

12:24 Techrights-sec; ack

12:24 schestowitz-TR; nukes are good for pension companies

12:24 schestowitz-TR; they help prolong the scheme

12:24 schestowitz-TR; much like cancer-causing pills in USA

12:24 schestowitz-TR; *spills

12:24 schestowitz-TR; the football seasons kicks off today here in england

12:24 schestowitz-TR; more covid-19 for more working class "plebs"

12:24 schestowitz-TR; to shorten their lives and mess up their brains

12:24 schestowitz-TR; under the guise of "freedom"

12:24 schestowitz-TR; clcohol (booze) and life-shortening virus

12:25 Techrights-sec; probably a million people get drinking water from any given major riverway

12:25 Techrights-sec; poisoning the water like that will have long term public health effects,

12:25 Techrights-sec; all to the negative, not just for nature and the environment

12:25 Techrights-sec; :(

12:27 schestowitz-TR; we still washa dn quarantine

12:27 schestowitz-TR; food

12:27 schestowitz-TR; we still shut the lid before flushing

12:27 schestowitz-TR; I read in gemninispace about how people contract the virus

12:27 schestowitz-TR; usually relatives

12:27 schestowitz-TR; kids of otherwise

12:29 Techrights-sec; ack

12:30 schestowitz-TR; ANTOHER (previously-unadvertised) way in which having kids shortens your life and elongates youu working (for somebody else) hours

12:30 schestowitz-TR; responsible parenting: sending the kids "someplace" to import a nasty virus into your home

12:30 schestowitz-TR; with incubation period just about long enough to ensure everyone gets its before it's detectable

12:30 schestowitz-TR; and now the US has baby formula shortages (russe for price hikes probably; it's a monopoly, so pric-ce-fixing is easy and there are no "alternatives")

12:30 schestowitz-TR; daemonFC said that in walmart they're begun putting baby formula in locked cabinets as if they're jewellery

12:31 Techrights-sec; most things are a ruse for price hikes, there has been some (but minimal)

12:31 Techrights-sec; reporting on the phenomenon

12:32 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR> daemonFC said that in walmart they're begun putting baby formula in locked cabinets as if they're jewellery

12:32 DaemonFC; When it costs $60 to feed your baby for several days, why not?

12:32 DaemonFC; I don't know how long a small can of formula lasts, so that's a guess.

12:32 DaemonFC; It's really expensive though.

12:33 schestowitz-TR; "but it'sssssss yooooo baaaaby"

12:33 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: cheaper to send it back to the womb, then eat lots of bread

12:34 schestowitz-TR; then, even the GOP will protect the baby

12:34 schestowitz-TR; they are embryophiles

12:35 Techrights-sec; ack

12:35 DaemonFC; Once you have kids your choices go away.

12:35 DaemonFC; All of your choices.

12:36 DaemonFC; You won't sleep.

12:36 DaemonFC; Even if you do get a short break from work to sleep, the kids will wake you up about something.

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12:54 schestowitz-TR; up here in Manc we've had quite a bit of rainfall these past 2 weeks

12:54 schestowitz-TR; I hope for no more hosepipe bans for years to come

12:54 schestowitz-TR; those bans always happen (obviously) when your grass is yellow and the plants perish

12:55 schestowitz-TR; less oxygen

12:55 schestowitz-TR; and the place generally looks worse


1 PM, August 6

13:12 Techrights-sec; ack


2 PM, August 6

14:31 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Englands COVID-19 Deaths in July: 561 in 2020 (Coronavirus Breakout), 1,430 Last Year, 4,199 This Year https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/06/getting-worse/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/06/getting-worse/

14:31 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Englands COVID-19 Deaths in July: 561 in 2020 (Coronavirus Breakout), 1,430 Last Year, 4,199 This Year

14:32 Techrights-sec; back?

14:32 Techrights-sec; yep

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14:56 schestowitz-TR; Albert Woodfox Dies of COVID-19 https://www.democracynow.org/2022/8/5/michael_mable_robert_king_albert_woodfox | Source: Democracy Now

↺ https://www.democracynow.org/2022/8/5/michael_mable_robert_king_albert_woodfox

14:56 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.democracynow.org | Albert Woodfox Dies of COVID; Loved Ones Remember the Life & Legacy of Famed Political Prisoner | Democracy Now!

14:56 schestowitz-TR; "died at the age of 75 due to complications tied to COVID-19." https://www.democracynow.org/2022/8/5/albert_woodfox_black_panthers_angola_three

↺ https://www.democracynow.org/2022/8/5/albert_woodfox_black_panthers_angola_three

14:56 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.democracynow.org | Albert Woodfox in His Own Words on 43 Years in Solitary, the Black Panthers & Fighting Injustice | Democracy Now!

14:57 Techrights-sec; ack


3 PM, August 6

15:05 schestowitz; Marco Fioretti https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/12/nudification-is-for-women-near-you/

↺ https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/12/nudification-is-for-women-near-you/

15:05 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-stop.zona-m.net | Nudification is for women NEAR you | Stop at Zona-M

15:05 schestowitz; does he smack of a bad person?

15:07 schestowitz-TR; but in person?

15:14 schestowitz-TR; I'll ignore his feeds from now

15:14 schestowitz-TR; I know those clique types

15:14 schestowitz-TR; nationality aside

15:14 schestowitz-TR; italo, piana, stefanno

15:14 schestowitz-TR; the "oopen source" people

15:14 schestowitz-TR; piana entered OSI too

15:14 schestowitz-TR; like italo and stafano

15:14 schestowitz-TR; they have been doing some things I do not like

15:14 schestowitz-TR; and are connected not only by lan

15:15 schestowitz-TR; and are connected not only by language


4 PM, August 6

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5 PM, August 6

17:31 schestowitz-TR; charles schultz vanished not so long after he had got a kid

17:31 schestowitz-TR; though he was pivotal in LO

17:31 schestowitz-TR; and was on a techbytes episode too


6 PM, August 6

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18:15 schestowitz-TR; he did vanish, but never did something rude

18:17 schestowitz-TR; for context, after his great success rallying people around LO IIRC he was hired by OpenMandriva (IIRC) to get people iunvolved,

18:17 schestowitz-TR; but the success was very limited

18:17 schestowitz-TR; maybe that setback set the scene for quiet cadence

18:30 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> GNU/Linux market share in Hong Kong up to around 5% https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/hong-kong/#monthly-200901-202208

↺ https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/hong-kong/#monthly-200901-202208

18:30 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gs.statcounter.com | Desktop Operating System Market Share Hong Kong | Statcounter Global Stats

18:30 schestowitz-TR; I amk trying to get a better understanding of what's going on

18:30 schestowitz-TR; as media certainly does not investigate anything anymoe

18:30 schestowitz-TR; linuxtoday became a total shame

18:31 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Englands COVID-19 Deaths in July: 561 in 2020 (Coronavirus Breakout), 1,430 Last Year, 4,199 This Year https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/

18:31 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com

18:31 schestowitz-TR; football is BACK today, after 2-3 months

18:31 schestowitz-TR; because hey, covid-19 is just some little thing in history anyway

18:32 Techrights-sec; ack

18:32 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Make better vaccines to protect people, not patent monopolies https://michaelwest.com.au/concern-over-low-third-vaccine-dose-rates-2/

↺ https://michaelwest.com.au/concern-over-low-third-vaccine-dose-rates-2/

18:32 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-michaelwest.com.au | Concern over low third vaccine dose rates - Michael West

18:33 schestowitz-TR; now they want to do the same with monkeypox without clinical trials

18:33 schestowitz-TR; the "new nornal"

18:33 schestowitz-TR; the reason regulation exists is past incidents that killed many people

18:33 schestowitz-TR; "TRUST COMPANIES!"

18:34 Techrights-sec; ack

18:34 Techrights-sec; actually they want to reinforce the obedience to companies too

18:37 schestowitz-TR; my mom keeps getting reinfected

18:37 schestowitz-TR; being ill in bed is the new normal for her

18:37 schestowitz-TR; after doses and infections

18:37 schestowitz-TR; she thinks this is freedom

18:37 schestowitz-TR; though it does leave some permanent damage

18:37 schestowitz-TR; I've noticed that people who got infected already are dismissive of the harm

18:37 schestowitz-TR; they choose to think it's no big deal, evenm if they insisted so before

18:37 schestowitz-TR; like a girl who lost her virginity and starts seleeeping around with anyone

18:40 schestowitz-TR; if you've been bed-bound somany times maybe it's about time you just simply reassess all your assumptinos and the stratetygy as a whole

18:40 schestowitz-TR; but people are better ajt justifying past behaviour than admitting errors and advising others accoridngly

18:46 Techrights-sec; ack

18:46 schestowitz-TR; we've been observing with great caution the situation, inc. availability of discounted foods and living expenses in general as licving in

18:46 schestowitz-TR; introvert mode or living like a hermit indoors (except exercise and some visits with masks and distances) would be OK, compatible\

18:46 schestowitz-TR; with what we've become accustomed to. if others arer dismissive of this, that's their own business, not ours

18:46 schestowitz-TR; but like I said, many are 0imho - doing self harm for the sake of compliance with the nor aka "the new normal"

18:46 schestowitz-TR; *norm

18:46 schestowitz-TR; case of point: flying

18:46 schestowitz-TR; 1980s: I have nice cusion, good meal, no strip searching, not too many people at airport

18:46 schestowitz-TR; good service, not "budget" crew

18:46 schestowitz-TR; now: security theatre, unreliable budget planes, passengers who barely know how to behave on a bug, no meals, stinking lavatories, long queues, delays

18:46 schestowitz-TR; almost every single time, new pews ("securuty") and after covid-19 also test requirements, masks, antiseptic etc.

18:46 schestowitz-TR; and risk that you cannot fly back tdue to getting infected at the destrination

18:47 Techrights-sec; flying ought to be banned, especially private jets

18:47 Techrights-sec; budget planes == price dumping to kill train travel

18:47 Techrights-sec; ack

18:49 schestowitz-TR; it did not occur to me that weeding out investment in rail/trains was a goal

18:49 schestowitz-TR; rails move a low more slowly, but are more spacious and make up for the speed becausse boardinfg i s faster and there's no takeoff/landing

18:49 schestowitz-TR; some people here take planes for distances that a train covers in just under 2 hours

18:49 schestowitz-TR; the trains here usually leave and arrive on time

18:49 schestowitz-TR; unlike planes

18:49 Techrights-sec; as far as I know that is one of the main goals -- kill competition either

18:49 Techrights-sec; financially or by establising unproductive travel habits

18:55 schestowitz-TR; s/rails move/carriages move/

18:55 schestowitz-TR; I've not taken a train or plane or bus since jan 2020

18:55 schestowitz-TR; I did take a taxi though


7 PM, August 6

19:56 schestowitz-TR; going by the little data we do have,

19:56 schestowitz-TR; preparing a quick post

19:56 schestowitz-TR; see draft

19:56 schestowitz-TR; I think there's something interesting in this data

19:56 schestowitz-TR; afaik, china makes no territorial claims to mongolia

19:57 Techrights-sec; ack

19:57 Techrights-sec; the rate of change would be very important to note there also

19:57 Techrights-sec; AFAIK the China - Mongolia war is at a slow simmer, never having really stopped

19:57 Techrights-sec; It's certainly not all-out genocide like has been against Tibet for 7 decades

19:57 Techrights-sec; Also China is biting of chunks of Kashmir, India and also bits of Pakistan

19:57 Techrights-sec; ^off

19:58 schestowitz-TR; adding words on pace of expansion

19:58 Techrights-sec; In the TM capsule, e.g.

19:58 Techrights-sec; gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Raspberry_Pi_Projects_and_News.gmi

↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/06/Raspberry_Pi_Projects_and_News.gmi

19:58 Techrights-sec; how should the previous and next links be marked or arranged?

19:58 Techrights-sec; Next first and then previous second or as it is now which is previous first

19:58 Techrights-sec; and next second? I'd like to avoid tagging them with unicode since that

19:58 Techrights-sec; screws up screen readers


8 PM, August 6

20:02 schestowitz-TR; re gemini,

20:02 schestowitz-TR; good question

20:02 schestowitz-TR; I wondered the same

20:02 schestowitz-TR; let me check again

20:02 schestowitz-TR; if instead of unicode you added "next: " it would lead to ambiguity

20:02 schestowitz-TR; as we have no #bold# and there would be

20:02 Techrights-sec;

20:02 Techrights-sec; ack

20:02 Techrights-sec; ok

20:02 schestowitz-TR; Next: Security: ... . ..

20:02 schestowitz-TR; I'm trying to think how other capsules dealt with it

20:02 schestowitz-TR; I saw some that draw a calendar with numbers in it

20:02 schestowitz-TR; gimme a moment, checking...

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20:08 schestowitz-TR; trying to locate an example I had in mind

20:08 schestowitz-TR; but search in geminispsace is very limited

20:08 schestowitz-TR; how about [NEXT]

20:08 schestowitz-TR; and [PREV]

20:08 schestowitz-TR; I suppose you saw the NYTimes article on how WWW tortures blind people

20:08 schestowitz-TR; I found it in RSS and then saw you had already sent it to me days earlier

20:09 schestowitz-TR; I saw it last weekend, i.e. july

20:10 Techrights-sec; I'm thinking that it may make the most senst to have the next link first

20:10 Techrights-sec; and then the previous link second, the reverse of what we have now

20:10 Techrights-sec; that's got symbols in it, some punctuation might be less problematic

20:10 Techrights-sec; next: next,

20:10 Techrights-sec; not yet

20:10 Techrights-sec; just the summary a while ago

20:10 Techrights-sec; I can recheck, It was last month, yes, https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/technology/ai-web-accessibility.html

↺ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/technology/ai-web-accessibility.html

20:10 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nytimes.com | For Blind Internet Users, the Fix Can Be Worse Than the Flaws - The New York Times

20:14 schestowitz-TR; don't mean to sound mean, but relatives I speak to talk about ear pain after the shots and/or infection

20:14 schestowitz-TR; I think a hearing crisis may be looming

20:14 schestowitz-TR; my uncle who was hospitalised (he'll be back home soon, he mailed me last night from hospital)

20:14 schestowitz-TR; lost a lot of his hearing in his 70s

20:14 schestowitz-TR; when I visited him in 2006 in Davie he was already struggling to hear, even with a piece on

20:14 schestowitz-TR; iirc, he blamed it on military service

20:14 schestowitz-TR; eardrum damage

20:14 schestowitz-TR; rianne's sense of hearing is noticably worse than mine, eyesight it's the opposite

20:14 schestowitz-TR; esp. for long distances

20:14 schestowitz-TR; prob. due to excessive screen time

20:14 schestowitz-TR; If I started driving again, I might need to have lenses/glasses (which I never had)

20:16 schestowitz-TR; if the shots started leading to tooth decay and people's teeth started falling off, there would

20:16 schestowitz-TR; be outrage, not gaslighting by COVID profiteers-connected media

20:16 Techrights-sec; likely

20:16 schestowitz-TR; people's ears are fewer and more important than one's teeth

20:16 schestowitz-TR; you can get flase teeth, you cannot get artificial hearing

20:16 schestowitz-TR; if the shots started leading to tooth decay and people's teeth started falling off, there would

20:16 schestowitz-TR; be outrage, not gaslighting by COVID profiteers-connected media

20:18 *Techrights-sec2 is now known as ts2

20:19 Techrights-sec; the compression artifacts from the mobile phones are far worse than anything

20:19 Techrights-sec; else since they distort the sound and compound the damage to the sound quality

20:19 Techrights-sec; with each lossy algorithm. Some callers are completely unintelligible

20:19 Techrights-sec; .

20:20 Techrights-sec; nope

20:22 Techrights-sec; The worst part (IMO) about the vaccine profiteering is that it seems that they

20:22 Techrights-sec; are exploiting the situation and maybe using some of the profit to block

20:22 Techrights-sec; development of far more effective vaccines. Work on those seems to have

20:22 Techrights-sec; slammed to a halt while a tiny handful of companies colled 25 EUR per patient per dose

20:22 Techrights-sec; for vaccines which don't actually halt the spread

20:25 schestowitz-TR; I agree 100%

20:25 schestowitz-TR; had I not worked from home, my choices would likely be different

20:26 schestowitz-TR; rianne has just made a very special tea, bought a 1L teapot of it

20:26 schestowitz-TR; *brought

20:26 schestowitz-TR; we probably use up a lot of water just sanitising things

20:26 schestowitz-TR; but seeing the (aforementioned infection, death, and hospitalisation rates) facts, it would make no sense to curtails this

20:26 schestowitz-TR; not or to go BACK to town, given that it was 10 times safer 2 summers ago

20:28 schestowitz; https://www.hollandandbarrett.com/the-health-hub/vitamins-and-supplements/supplements/collagen/best-collagen-drinks/

↺ https://www.hollandandbarrett.com/the-health-hub/vitamins-and-supplements/supplements/collagen/best-collagen-drinks/

20:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.hollandandbarrett.com | 9 Of The Best Collagen Drinks 2022 | Holland & Barrett

20:28 schestowitz-TR; my bad, it is not tea

20:28 schestowitz-TR; she has mader it for day

20:28 schestowitz-TR; *days

20:28 schestowitz-TR; https://www.hollandandbarrett.com/the-health-hub/vitamins-and-supplements/supplements/collagen/best-collagen-drinks/

↺ https://www.hollandandbarrett.com/the-health-hub/vitamins-and-supplements/supplements/collagen/best-collagen-drinks/

20:28 Techrights-sec; ack

20:31 schestowitz-TR; the fallback plan has been good diet, supplements, testing when needed

20:31 schestowitz-TR; I want to show you something, I'll communicatew it to you in a blog...

20:31 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collagen

↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collagen

20:31 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Collagen - Wikipedia

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20:39 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> UK's COVID-19 Testing Rates Falling to New Lows in Spite of Deaths and Hospitalisations Being About 10 Times Worse Than Summer of 2020 https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/06/covid-testing-rates-new-lows/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/06/covid-testing-rates-new-lows/

20:39 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive UKs COVID-19 Testing Rates Falling to New Lows in Spite of Deaths and Hospitalisations Being About 10 Times Worse Than Summer of 2020

20:39 schestowitz-TR; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collagen

↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collagen

20:39 schestowitz-TR; I think she bought it based on something she read

20:39 schestowitz-TR; I'm making a meme too now

20:42 Techrights-sec; also should non-Gemini links have markers?

20:44 schestowitz-TR; that would help if not too much work/trouble

20:44 schestowitz-TR; the capsule was submitted today

20:44 schestowitz-TR; but not any rss feed

20:44 schestowitz-TR; Google picked up the new site without any intervention

20:44 schestowitz-TR; I assume it saw links in irc logs and started processing pages

20:44 schestowitz-TR; at least they say it's alpha at the very top

20:44 schestowitz-TR; after cloning the pi to another usb stick I'll sort out IPFS

20:44 schestowitz-TR; I want ipfs to work on another surface if possivle

20:45 schestowitz-TR; gemini is very light i/o-wise

20:47 Techrights-sec; ok

20:49 schestowitz-TR; "I got into Gemini more or less at the culmination of my techno-minimalism phase. I'd gotten annoyed with "bloat" and considered the WWW a massive disaster." gemini://samsai.eu/gemlog/2022-08-06-heartbeat-signal.gemini

↺ gemini://samsai.eu/gemlog/2022-08-06-heartbeat-signal.gemini

20:49 Techrights-sec; ack

20:49 schestowitz-TR; I've finished many of the weekend tasks already

20:49 schestowitz-TR; so can do projects and such

20:49 schestowitz-TR; I've finished many of the weekend tasks already

20:49 schestowitz-TR; so can do projects and such


9 PM, August 6

21:04 schestowitz-TR; got the changes showing

21:04 schestowitz-TR; + $text = " ".$text;

21:04 schestowitz-TR; ytalk does not handle those symbols well

21:04 schestowitz-TR; just looked at all 6 new blocks

21:04 schestowitz-TR; @@ -842,7 +842,12 @@ sub xhtml_to_gemtext {

21:04 schestowitz-TR; trailing space atr end of third line:

21:04 schestowitz-TR; + $text = " ".$text;

21:04 schestowitz-TR; I only noticed because I know how strict TR's repo is

21:04 schestowitz-TR; I have a script to automate removing trailing spaces

21:04 schestowitz_log; REMOVE TRAILING SPACE: sed -i 's/[[:space:]]*$//' functions.php

21:07 Techrights-sec; ack

21:07 Techrights-sec; the commit message might be more useful than the code itself in ytalk

21:07 Techrights-sec; there feels like there is a bit of redunancy there, I think it is consistent

21:07 Techrights-sec; enough that it can be split off into a function

21:07 Techrights-sec; ok the hooks never get checked out / cloned along with the rest of the

21:07 Techrights-sec; repository, that's one check that always has to be redone

21:07 Techrights-sec; It'll be checked automatically

21:07 Techrights-sec; One can set up a lot of hooks but they can easily get lost, destroyed, or

21:07 Techrights-sec; overwritten

21:07 Techrights-sec; The pre-commit hook now checks for various whitespace problems including

21:07 Techrights-sec; trailing whitespace and will block the commit until they are fixed, but

21:07 Techrights-sec; as mentioned hooks can get lost, destroyed, or overwritten all too easily

21:07 Techrights-sec; Hmm. Git won't allow .git/hooks/pre-commit to be added to the repository

21:07 Techrights-sec; So this problem is fixed for now but could likely happen again in the future.

21:07 Techrights-sec; when a new clone is made.

21:12 schestowitz-TR; I am grateful that I get real-time alerts about pushes and then, at my time of convenience, I run one

21:12 schestowitz-TR; command to see what was changed in the window adjacement to ytalk

21:12 schestowitz-TR; it's a good cli-based collaboration tool and runs over ssh

21:12 schestowitz-TR; with deers in the background (translucent terminals *deer

21:12 schestowitz-TR; *adjacent

21:12 schestowitz-TR; I will refine it some more over time, it seems like something that's worth investing in

21:12 schestowitz-TR; btw, this morning I checked all the gz files (backups)

21:12 schestowitz-TR; all are fine, that problem was qemu when i/o was very high

21:12 schestowitz-TR; kaniini upgraded qemu

21:12 schestowitz-TR; so I could cross out (intend) this TODO off my list

21:14 schestowitz-TR; all those backups are made around 4:30am

21:14 schestowitz-TR; the tuxmachines temote backup is around 5pm

21:14 schestowitz-TR; local at 5:10am

21:14 schestowitz-TR; to cover 12-hour priods

21:14 schestowitz-TR; I will stillr evert back to 27/6/22 version (TM) at some point

21:14 schestowitz-TR; after making static copies of all nodes after that date, then redirect the requests

21:14 schestowitz-TR; as some old nodes got damaged with the DB recoveries

21:20 Techrights-sec; ack


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