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05:19 schestowitz-TR; gm
05:19 Techrights-sec; gm
05:19 Techrights-sec; whats lennart poettering's new job?
05:19 Techrights-sec; or employer?
05:22 schestowitz-TR; I saw speculations only
05:22 schestowitz-TR; like consulting
05:22 schestowitz-TR; no doubt he and his mates have a lot of control over gnu/linux
05:22 schestowitz-TR; maybe soon more than kernel/LF or even gnu
05:22 schestowitz-TR; as they control many very core components, from dns to booting, even user accounts and homedir
05:22 schestowitz-TR; maybe USA did "operation paperclip" on him ;-p
05:22 schestowitz-TR; btw, on friday we'll know the company's decision
05:22 schestowitz-TR; if the cake and cider don't get used on friday, then next tuesday
05:22 schestowitz-TR; either way, I invested about 5 hours yesterday planning TM migration
05:22 schestowitz-TR; and this morning I put the "factory reset" on my new laptop
05:22 schestowitz-TR; for when we take the old site read-only
05:22 schestowitz-TR; thrilling to do this after 18+ years, software was never built to last this long
05:22 Techrights-sec; ok
05:22 Techrights-sec; ack
05:25 schestowitz-TR; if we get what we asked for, then we start working 1am sat, then sunday 5:30 we finish, with 8-hour break in the middle (covered by new colleague from the US)
05:25 schestowitz-TR; then 128 hours free, sans additional cover for sick colleagues or holidays
05:25 schestowitz-TR; (for extra pay)
05:25 Techrights-sec; ack
05:25 Techrights-sec; https://www.history.com/news/what-was-operation-paperclip
05:25 Techrights-sec; when will they give their answer about the new schedule?
05:25 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-What Was Operation Paperclip? - HISTORY
05:26 schestowitz-TR; tentative or final decision friday afternoon
05:29 schestowitz-TR; I dare you to find a static and/or flat-file CMS (or "headless"... BS like "serverless") that has rss support
05:29 schestowitz-TR; or decent rss support
05:29 schestowitz-TR; the CMS status quo is bad.. few players are potent enough, the rest seems like hobbies
05:29 Techrights-sec; ok
05:29 Techrights-sec; Probably easier to write one, but then there is the matter of UI
05:30 schestowitz-TR; to me, the hard part is the rss stuff as it needs to know age of files and making a properly contructed FULL TEXT RSS feed that validates OK
05:30 schestowitz-TR; is not so easy
05:33 Techrights-sec; that's very easy to do in perl and not that hard in python
05:33 Techrights-sec; with raw, static HTML if the <meta /> element is used in the <head> element
05:33 Techrights-sec; then one can be the date of publication and that can be extracted using XPath
05:33 Techrights-sec; combined with some file system metadata that gets all the recently modified
05:33 Techrights-sec; files and their official publication dates
05:33 Techrights-sec; Static HTML with templates, supplemented with a validator, and CSS might
05:33 Techrights-sec; be the way to go if the generators seem poorly thought out and implemented
05:37 schestowitz-TR; right, I agree
05:37 schestowitz-TR; to me, a concerning aspect, based on my reading, many of those that do not have database still use a lot of CPU and RAM to
05:37 schestowitz-TR; "compute" something with php or similar, e.g. adding template stuff or blocks [sic]
05:37 schestowitz-TR; so you end up not really serving some .html file over and over again, there's still a loop
05:37 schestowitz-TR; let me leap a step ahead and say, it seem their real "savings" are, instead of having a *gasp*
05:37 schestowitz-TR; db let's just store every post as a file, then you can edit the file directly (DAV etc) instead of using INSERT/UPDATE
05:37 schestowitz-TR; but much of the rest is the same, namely some script compiling all the bits
05:37 schestowitz-TR; the DB itself is a file
05:37 schestowitz-TR; but a very large file
05:37 schestowitz-TR; so they say, let's make lots and lots of files
05:37 schestowitz-TR; kaniini wants cpu usage to go down a bit
05:37 schestowitz-TR; and mentioned movable type
05:37 schestowitz-TR; but many ran away from it because of the licence, it's still actively developed
05:37 schestowitz-TR; I always found it inflexible and ugly
05:37 schestowitz-TR; only very tasteless blogs still use it
05:42 Techrights-sec; PHP is not a good idea here
05:42 Techrights-sec; Now some things would have to be re-generated when new files are added and
05:42 Techrights-sec; perhaps the safer way would be to use SSI for many things.
05:42 Techrights-sec; I'm wondering how simplified the interactions can be with some shell or python
05:42 Techrights-sec; scripts and templates.
05:42 Techrights-sec; Maybe the script can ask for and validate metadata, then fire up an editor,
05:43 Techrights-sec; validate the editing and use that as a body, then generate the new page and
05:43 Techrights-sec; update the SSI components
05:43 Techrights-sec; oh. I am weak at GUI
05:43 Techrights-sec; but the above would work with multiple users
05:43 Techrights-sec; however a disadvantage would be that I am thinking in a way that depends on
05:43 Techrights-sec; shell access
05:46 schestowitz-TR; remember we may need multiple users (e.g. marius) and some decent GUI for html code to be inserted
05:46 schestowitz-TR; and this would be done and redone many times a day
05:46 schestowitz-TR; if we roll out out own and go the shell way there is a lot that can be automated and made more efficient, like having many files open at the same time
05:47 schestowitz-TR; and then update as "followup" stories come
05:47 schestowitz-TR; to me, the "hard" part is likely rss
05:47 schestowitz-TR; as for templating, one common 90s technique was to put markers for the page and then scan all the files, inserting charges were thge markers are or at start and end
05:47 schestowitz-TR; like we do in video galleries in techright
05:47 Techrights-sec; RSS is "just" a matter of harvesting data and then writing an XML file
05:52 schestowitz-TR; here is an idea
05:52 schestowitz-TR; (bear with me)
05:52 schestowitz-TR; a) in "old" TM when we add a comment ('update') it shows the node at the top of an index at the front page
05:52 schestowitz-TR; it gets 'bumped' up
05:52 schestowitz-TR; the idea is, indicte to people a node has an update
05:52 schestowitz-TR; now...
05:52 schestowitz-TR; b) in "new" tm we can have a directory full of html files
05:52 schestowitz-TR; c) sort all files by age (might now scale well, but can be split into years as subdir
05:52 schestowitz-TR; d) then present 20 files based on last modified, generate rss feeds and front page from these
05:52 schestowitz-TR; pros: easy to manage, rsync for backups, with occasional full snapshots
05:52 schestowitz-TR; can be efficent if you regenerate the front page and rss every 3 mins, scanning all the files, adding something from template like <head>
05:52 schestowitz-TR; then write an index based on what's to follow
05:53 Techrights-sec; find -newerMT ...
05:53 Techrights-sec; yes b, c, and d are easy; a question is about how to 'preview' via the web while
05:53 Techrights-sec; editing via the shell in a reliable and non-public mannner; I guess there
05:53 Techrights-sec; are several ways to do that too
05:53 Techrights-sec; No need to scan everything repeatedly
05:53 Techrights-sec; with a new OS the inotify system can be used and incron used to fire up the
05:53 Techrights-sec; index and other processing tools wheneve a new file is added to the 'published'
05:53 Techrights-sec; directory
06:02 Techrights-sec; https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-inotify-examples-to-replicate-directories/
06:02 Techrights-sec; works well for small, infrequent additions or deletions
06:02 Techrights-sec; https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/incron-command-in-linux-with-examples/
06:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-inotify-examples-to-replicate-directories/ )
06:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.geeksforgeeks.org | Incron command in Linux with Examples - GeeksforGeeks
06:06 schestowitz-TR; just been upstairs, thought how to do the individual page files such that they contain some html in them other than the "core" bits
06:06 schestowitz-TR; such that pages can be served
06:11 Techrights-sec; creating the pages with a script is no problem but going back and editing
06:11 Techrights-sec; the pages would not be possible with the same script and would mean
06:11 Techrights-sec; editing raw HTML then; however it is amost unheard of to edit a page on TR or TM
06:11 Techrights-sec; SSI can allow the standardized bits (logos, menus, footers, etc) to be kept in
06:11 Techrights-sec; external files and thus in a single location
06:12 schestowitz-TR; OK, here is a trick
06:12 schestowitz-TR; Each file has a template, then some markers for start and end of "core" stuff
06:12 schestowitz-TR; the script that makes front page and rss feed uses those markers to only scan the "content" ("core")
06:12 schestowitz-TR; yes, that can be <body>, but maybe better <div> assuming that you want some page bits like menu
06:17 Techrights-sec; those markers are meta elements: https://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_meta.asp
06:17 Techrights-sec; those can be queried by a script and then an editor fired up for the article
06:17 Techrights-sec; text; then once the article is edited, the pieces combined into a single HTML
06:17 Techrights-sec; page and then the RSS and indexing scripts triggered
06:17 Techrights-sec; the actual HTML <body> element would have a heck of a lot more from the template
06:17 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.w3schools.com | HTML meta tag
06:17 Techrights-sec; there would be the logo, menus, and footers; a specific <div> element can be
06:17 Techrights-sec; singled out at replaced with the text produced by the above mentioned editor
06:17 Techrights-sec; metadata: date, title, slug, author, category
06:17 Techrights-sec; yes; and author can be from the login / user environment variable
06:17 Techrights-sec; ok not categories but maybe some descriptive keywords in an uncontrolled
06:17 Techrights-sec; vocabulary
06:17 Techrights-sec; yes data can be automatically filled in at the time of creation
06:17 schestowitz-TR; thge slug is the file name
06:17 schestowitz-TR; author does not matter
06:17 schestowitz-TR; categories might also be extra overhead for little practical gain
06:17 schestowitz-TR; the date can be derived from file last modified or created
06:25 schestowitz-TR; we can use the camelcase code to improve presentation of links, assuming P for Perl in LAMP
06:25 schestowitz-TR; but that's a side thing
06:25 schestowitz-TR; given the simplicity of the site I think this covers everything
06:25 schestowitz-TR; the web in 2004 involved many people leaving comments and comment spam was only starting to become a problem
06:26 Techrights-sec; comments would be a whole new can of worms and would not only require a full
06:26 Techrights-sec; web-based "framework" with authentication / login and such but also time
06:26 Techrights-sec; curating the comments and culling spam post haste. Best to stick with the
06:26 Techrights-sec; current policy of encouraging use of the IRC channels instead.
06:27 schestowitz-TR; SN will be gone one day, maybe even soon (<5 years)
06:27 schestowitz-TR; not under out control
06:27 schestowitz-TR; *our
06:29 schestowitz-TR; rolling out our own will give more flexibility and removal of 'feature churn'
06:29 schestowitz-TR; social control media or webapps are not a TM thing
06:29 schestowitz-TR; and that's actually a strength
06:29 schestowitz-TR; our core crowd is geeks, not phone slingers like zemlin
06:34 schestowitz-TR; just seen your remark on gulag noise
06:34 schestowitz-TR; I agree, but the explanation is simple
06:35 schestowitz-TR; you see what they are up to in the "front page"
06:35 schestowitz-TR; or the very poor curation os sources
06:35 schestowitz-TR; and I opted out of this shit
06:35 schestowitz-TR; so I can focus on signal
06:35 schestowitz-TR; they see wide and fast
06:35 schestowitz-TR; but the processing they then do it subpar to say the least
06:35 schestowitz-TR; the goals are financial, the users are a secondary concern
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06:54 schestowitz-TR; I reckon the only reason you sent some MSN links this past week was gulag noise
07:02 schestowitz-TR; 3 mins ago tuxmachines db had warnings again
07:02 schestowitz-TR; repairing
07:02 schestowitz-TR; might be down a few mins
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08:51 Techrights-sec; still wondering what the cause is, eventually it will break if it continues
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08:52 schestowitz-TR; I assume it'll be a lot more stable after >I restore from the backup
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08:58 Techrights-sec; ok
09:29 schestowitz-TR; irc post for today
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10:34 schestowitz-TR; ^ a
10:34 schestowitz-TR; b) back from exercise
10:34 schestowitz-TR; c) maybe nennart fogures red hat was his transmeta and now it's time for Lennux Foundation
10:34 schestowitz-TR; d) if we make a CMS for TM, as per above specs, we can later use the same for TR, maybe schestowitz.com too
10:51 Techrights-sec; c) :/ probably truye
10:51 Techrights-sec; d) specs are something to consider in detail then
10:56 schestowitz-TR; to keep number of files lower it can help to have one directory per year, but this would limit flexibility
10:56 schestowitz-TR; tuxmachines is about 15k files per year
10:56 schestowitz-TR; later we can add witty functionality for extra speed and better usability, e.g. scan for related titles and present "related"
10:56 schestowitz-TR; nodes
10:56 schestowitz-TR; then "attach" to the current new file before pressing save
10:56 schestowitz-TR; TR=soon 34k posts
10:56 schestowitz-TR; schestoweitz.com only about 2.5k
10:56 schestowitz-TR; many old CMS assumed people used large monitors
10:56 schestowitz-TR; hence many panes and stuff
10:56 schestowitz-TR; they replace one kind of bloat with another kind
11:26 Techrights-sec; how should graphics be uploaded / managed, and other formats beyond HTML ?
11:28 schestowitz-TR; the old traditional way
11:28 schestowitz-TR; upload to a directory, then link to that from html
11:29 Techrights-sec; please clarify?
11:29 Techrights-sec; fwiw sqlite is not multi-user so in theory for concurrent editing postgresql
11:29 Techrights-sec; or mariadb would be needed
11:29 Techrights-sec; uploading to a directory and then linking manually from the HTML introduces
11:29 Techrights-sec; a lot of steps each with potential for mistakes
11:39 schestowitz-TR; concurrent editing better done with git, which we can do
11:39 schestowitz-TR; but for tuxmachines version conttrol seems over the top for mere "nodes"
11:43 Techrights-sec; that's an idea: build the site in Git and publish via pull
11:43 Techrights-sec; however consistency and standardization is not possible with manual action
11:43 Techrights-sec; alone, there have to be a lot of helper scripts to create chokepoints at
11:43 Techrights-sec; which incorrect markup (not valid or nonconforming to the right style) are
11:43 Techrights-sec; blocked from publishing
11:43 Techrights-sec; the work flow has to end up being as simple as filling in a form IMHO
11:46 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> EU Parliament https://www.eff.org/press/releases/eff-statement-eu-parliaments-formal-approval-digital-services-act-and-digital-markets EFF still ignores EPO corruption entirely, says "rein in the power of Facebook, Google, Apple, and Amazon" and leaves out MIRCOSOFT (why again?)
11:46 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | EFF Statement on EU Parliaments Adoption of Digital Services Act and Digital Markets Act | Electronic Frontier Foundation
11:47 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Nowadays it's easy to feel like EFF became a bit of a front group for Microsoft. It even gives AWARDS to Microsoft employees and shills Microsoft proxies like DDG. Then it defames RMS. What the actual funk?
11:47 schestowitz-TR; I was about to say,
11:47 schestowitz-TR; knowing Marius is the only VALUABLE contributor we have,
11:47 schestowitz-TR; we can set up user accounts on the server
11:47 schestowitz-TR; with ssh keys
11:47 schestowitz-TR; then make a script that asks you to enter the html bits
11:47 schestowitz-TR; then opens it for preview locally in your browser
11:47 schestowitz-TR; then copies to the server
11:47 schestowitz-TR; editing existing notes, e.g. to add more links, would be another wordflow, maybe DAV-like
11:47 schestowitz-TR; but that's thinking several steps ahead already
11:47 schestowitz-TR; (this kind of work will give us a lot of material to publish... articles, videos... I plan to record soon
11:47 schestowitz-TR; about youtube over gemini... yes, it's a thing now)
11:54 Techrights-sec; ack
11:57 schestowitz-TR; further thought
11:57 schestowitz-TR; rianne does android leftovers
11:57 schestowitz-TR; saves as android.html
11:58 schestowitz-TR; runs script
11:58 schestowitz-TR; script adds date
11:58 schestowitz-TR; 06-07-2022-android.html
11:58 schestowitz-TR; opens it in browser
11:58 schestowitz-TR; if OK, add footer, header etc. from template and upload
11:58 schestowitz-TR; rianne gets to keep local copies, so there are "backups"m too
11:58 Techrights-sec; ack
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12:32 schestowitz-TR; bad cat
12:32 Techrights-sec; more or less
12:48 schestowitz-TR; draft
12:48 Techrights-sec; checking
12:48 Techrights-sec; The Gemini protocol still (AFAIK) has a bug which prevents handling of very
12:48 Techrights-sec; large files and therefore Video over Gemini is /not/ possible.
12:48 Techrights-sec; s/possible/feasible/
12:48 schestowitz-TR; in this case, it worked OK
12:48 schestowitz-TR; 78mb, 10 min, hd
12:51 Techrights-sec; the protocol cannot handle large files, it might work /sometimes/ but is
12:51 Techrights-sec; neither reliable nor accurate in that regard; anything other than small files
12:51 Techrights-sec; is very strongly inadvisable
12:51 Techrights-sec; yes, something will download but it will not necessarily be either complete or
12:51 Techrights-sec; accurate
12:52 schestowitz-TR; mind if I add this as footnote?
12:52 Techrights-sec; np
12:53 Techrights-sec; best to write an article which avoids using large files though
12:56 Techrights-sec; schools are still paying the price for using m$ products in that they are
12:56 Techrights-sec; hit multiple times by ransomware and even then still don't learn their lesson
12:58 schestowitz-TR; they should pay Microsoft to issue an analytical report like it did for Ukraine
12:58 schestowitz-TR; money well spent ^_^
12:58 schestowitz-TR; or have a "Ransomware task force"
12:58 Techrights-sec; :(
12:58 Techrights-sec; or invite them to Washington DC to meet with more politicians :/
12:58 Techrights-sec; ^sarcasm
13:01 schestowitz-TR; old company story in a nutshell
13:01 schestowitz-TR; we once had a "boss" called john
13:01 schestowitz-TR; he was not a techie
13:01 schestowitz-TR; he worked behind our backs to poach our clients into his own thing
13:01 schestowitz-TR; since I joined he was at least the second person to do this and get caught
13:01 schestowitz-TR; after we sacked him he wrote in twitter a tweet like
13:01 schestowitz-TR; "some things are better left to Microsoft';
13:01 schestowitz-TR; when justifying using some Microsoft things
13:01 schestowitz-TR; prior to that, for his meetings he insisted on using skype
13:01 schestowitz-TR; of course workers were upset
13:01 schestowitz-TR; so that's the story in a nutshell
13:01 schestowitz-TR; you can find better employees than him in ther street, holding a sign "will coe html for food"
13:01 schestowitz-TR; they would be more reliable
13:05 Techrights-sec; microsofters are trying to get ukraine to allow m$ to hold their data hostage
13:05 Techrights-sec; in their "cloud"
13:06 schestowitz-TR; so we must call them out on it
13:06 schestowitz-TR; if we have refs and a way to respond well
13:06 schestowitz-TR; I often put such stories in Security leftovers in TM as well
13:06 schestowitz-TR; that's just the most we can do tbh
13:06 Techrights-sec; yes
13:06 Techrights-sec; and lobbyists including brad smith are in and out of high politicians' offices
13:06 Techrights-sec; like there were in a cheap motel
13:06 Techrights-sec; instead of being thrashed and locked up, he and his assistants are all over DC
13:08 schestowitz-TR; I saw his photos in that new article
13:08 schestowitz-TR; it is in TM too
13:08 schestowitz-TR; to help amplify those who did the legwork to explain what Microsoft is up to
13:11 Techrights-sec; they have 10s of thousands of minions aroud the world all working overtime
13:11 Techrights-sec; to weaken the cyberdefense in their respective countries
13:11 Techrights-sec; s/weaken/weaken and undermine/
13:12 schestowitz-TR; this number will decrease proportional to their lessened profits or losses
13:12 schestowitz-TR; so we need to keep hacking away at their corporse of a company
13:12 schestowitz-TR; it's a lot bigger than novell
13:12 schestowitz-TR; so much hacking will be needed
13:12 Techrights-sec; they would have gone away long ago if not for the bailouts
13:13 schestowitz-TR; yes, beat me to it
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13:25 Techrights-sec; ack
13:25 Techrights-sec; how comforatble are rianne and marius with nano or other text-based editor?
13:26 schestowitz-TR; rianne uses nano at work
13:26 schestowitz-TR; marius is a unix/linuix geek, so...
13:26 schestowitz-TR; and we mostly paste into browser/terminal from a text editor like kate anyway
13:27 Techrights-sec; ok
13:27 Techrights-sec; thanks
13:27 Techrights-sec; which static site generator(s), if any, made the shortlist?
13:28 schestowitz-TR; htmly
13:28 schestowitz-TR; but for its rss support
13:28 schestowitz-TR; however the feeds seem abbreviated
13:28 schestowitz-TR; we need full text rss feeds to reat users with more than "click here" BS (to drive up useless "hits")
13:28 Techrights-sec; it looks like it might be extensible or at least modifiable
13:37 schestowitz-TR; see their dependencies
13:37 schestowitz-TR; many of the ones I looked at are node or laravel or some other framework and lots of github everywhere
13:37 schestowitz-TR; my mental framework goes like, will this be properly supported in 10 years?
13:38 schestowitz-TR; many GUI stuff I did in the past 20+ years can barely even run
13:38 schestowitz-TR; gtk1, cogl, qt
13:38 schestowitz-TR; it's OK if you want to write and rewrite things
13:38 schestowitz-TR; same for python and php
13:38 schestowitz-TR; xul, swf, javafx..
13:38 Techrights-sec; ack
13:40 schestowitz-TR; software need to slow the f* down
13:40 schestowitz-TR; focus or devote resources to keeping existing things
13:40 schestowitz-TR; not feature churn
13:40 schestowitz-TR; I use the Microsoft Office analogy a lot
13:41 schestowitz-TR; yesterday in IRC I last did this
13:41 schestowitz-TR; mom and pop writing a letter don't need a 500MB program
13:41 schestowitz-TR; (or a new PC fore that matter)
13:41 schestowitz-TR; I get weather forecats from two independent source, one in the CLI another in Gemini, then compare
13:41 schestowitz-TR; tomorrow might be good for bike ride
13:41 schestowitz-TR; that takes like 1mb of ram
13:41 schestowitz-TR; BillBC Weather is 200-300MB for the browser alone, before getting to any pages
13:41 Techrights-sec; ack
13:43 Techrights-sec; htmly seems rather primitive and, worse, awkward; however, I'm not sure
13:43 Techrights-sec; how much better we could do ourselves here
13:45 schestowitz-TR; as I said today, or maybe yestyerday, CMS space is either hobby or bloat
13:45 schestowitz-TR; consolidation around several bloatware
13:45 schestowitz-TR; with 90% stuff TM does NOT need
13:45 schestowitz-TR; not for routine things
13:45 schestowitz-TR; the other stuff I found I'd not trust to scale well to 10k...50k nodes
13:45 schestowitz-TR; wordpress 1.2 still could not deal with "too many" posts in the same catagory
13:45 schestowitz-TR; therea was no pagination
13:45 schestowitz-TR; you had to add plugins for pagination
14:06 Techrights-sec; ack
14:07 schestowitz-TR; billbc: cranks belittle covid-19
14:07 schestowitz-TR; but it's OK when we do the same
14:07 schestowitz-TR; because we're the bill fucking c(unt)
14:07 Techrights-sec; ack
14:07 schestowitz-TR; this sort of doublestandardism is abundant
14:07 schestowitz-TR; like icbm using the word "master" all the time
14:07 schestowitz-TR; we need to call them out on it
14:33 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Spamnil has just bought himself another round of clickfraud in YouTube. Linux Foundation passes money to a fraud. http://techrights.org/2022/06/08/lf-defrauding-clients/
14:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | New Lows: Linux Foundation Defrauding Clients | Techrights
14:37 Techrights-sec; ack
14:37 Techrights-sec; I don't ever click on his links, not that I'd run across them anyway
14:37 Techrights-sec; LF now exists to degrade the brand
14:37 Techrights-sec; and run it into the ground
14:37 schestowitz-TR; LF is scamming companies
14:37 schestowitz-TR; inc. startups
14:37 schestowitz-TR; they deserve to know
14:38 schestowitz-TR; rathger, I would say,
14:38 schestowitz-TR; it sells the brand to those looking to destroy Linux itself
14:38 schestowitz-TR; aka "controlled opposition
14:38 schestowitz-TR; there's more money in doing that than in promoting free-as-in-freedom FAIF s/w
14:39 Techrights-sec; yes that's probably a more clear way to put it
14:47 schestowitz-TR; over time more and more people/sites/orgs see it the same way
14:47 schestowitz-TR; which is what we want
14:47 schestowitz-TR; epo is quitly tense at the moment, they cannot hire examiners
14:47 schestowitz-TR; LF has not hired high-calibre people in recent years
14:47 schestowitz-TR; just many incognitos and posers
14:47 schestowitz-TR; reminds me of Novell and now Red Hat
14:47 schestowitz-TR; one way to hurt an org is to make it unable to attract capable workers
14:47 schestowitz-TR; as they research before accepting a job offer
14:47 schestowitz-TR; plus, many capable people leave, and projects are in dire straits
14:47 schestowitz-TR; shithub has been relativbely quiet and now sfc surprisingly "moves for the kill
14:47 schestowitz-TR; matey is a lot more pessimistic than I am
14:50 schestowitz-TR; orgs are different, the blueprints and methods are largely the same
14:50 schestowitz-TR; the largeer the org (or better connected), the more blows it takes
14:50 schestowitz-TR; you hardly hear of "black duck" anymore
14:50 schestowitz-TR; snyk is the new "black duck"
14:53 Techrights-sec; ack
14:54 schestowitz-TR; a)m their tactics is to portray the critics as insane or hatefyl
14:54 schestowitz-TR; b) we need patients, happiness, health (anger harms morale and corrodes the mind)
14:54 schestowitz-TR; *patience
14:54 schestowitz-TR; c) if you don't censor, they call you what they call those whom you don't censor. If you censor, they call you tyrant etc.
14:55 schestowitz-TR; wait till MS finds out and openly acknowledges android uses Linux
14:56 schestowitz-TR; (to zemlin's credit, he does mention this a lot)
14:56 schestowitz-TR; and he uses iphone!1LOL
14:56 schestowitz-TR; /s/MS/MSM
14:56 Techrights-sec; yep they attack regardless
14:56 Techrights-sec; :/ zemlin is a turd
14:57 schestowitz-TR; I was going to say poophead, but you beat me to it
14:57 schestowitz-TR; no matter the words, his actiosns speak volumes
14:57 schestowitz-TR; like spamnil on his mac, with a banner that says "LINUX" behind him in videos
14:57 schestowitz-TR; where he speaks to proprietary shits and promotes crap
14:58 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2022/07/02/finland-share-summer-2022/
14:58 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Finland Turns 18 | Techrights
14:59 Techrights-sec; :)
14:59 Techrights-sec; still low but much improved
14:59 schestowitz-TR; the Tipping Point (TM)
15:00 Techrights-sec; strange that the FreeBSD wankers have only 0%, but that is on the desktop only
15:03 schestowitz-TR; they will brag about netflix
15:03 schestowitz-TR; which is going down
15:03 schestowitz-TR; btw, ms will never recover on OS share
15:03 schestowitz-TR; nor emerge again in mobile
15:03 schestowitz-TR; with winCE (IIRC), about 20 years ago, they waged a war agaibT Palm OS and got some share of what was then still
15:03 schestowitz-TR; a small but growing market
15:03 schestowitz-TR; with blackberry also to join
15:03 schestowitz-TR; the mobile "widows" devices were too heavy
15:03 schestowitz-TR; too much reuse of paste code
15:04 schestowitz-TR; *pasta
15:04 schestowitz-TR; iPaq was one example
15:04 schestowitz-TR; when i was not yet an apple thing
15:04 schestowitz-TR; ipod was born around this time
15:04 schestowitz-TR; The EpsteinStarterKit
15:05 schestowitz-TR; with a t at the end, not a d
15:07 schestowitz-TR; we don'tm have lobbyists and advertisers (LF is Microsoft, we are the advertisers... as volunteers), so the media
15:07 schestowitz-TR; will almost make us seem smaller and worse than we actually ar
15:07 schestowitz-TR; elikewise, in patent debates they try to make 90% of the population seem insane or "pirate
15:07 schestowitz-TR; the copyright cartel does the same
15:07 schestowitz-TR; they play a game of moralitry from their peanut gallaeryk, at the gallery's expenses
15:07 schestowitz-TR; or the theatre's expoense rather
15:08 Techrights-sec; yes especially in recent years since M$ has become a lobbying / political
15:08 Techrights-sec; entity back 15 years ago or so
15:09 schestowitz-TR; 15 years ago they lacked an incentive to improve their "products"
15:09 schestowitz-TR; so they signed a novell patent deal and attacked everyone with protectionism (patrents)
15:09 schestowitz-TR; and settled lawsuits to reduce crimes' visibility
15:19 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Gardiner Bryant became de facto Valve marketing rep - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=uvyLngqwg0E Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
15:19 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Set up DoomRPG on the Steam Deck (in under 5 minutes) - Invidious
15:24 Techrights-sec; ack
15:24 schestowitz-TR; see draft
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16:44 Techrights-sec; checking
16:44 Techrights-sec; nicknames always need to be preceded or acompanied by the real name, for
16:44 Techrights-sec; several reasons including associating the article with search results for
16:44 Techrights-sec; their name
17:24 schestowitz-TR; [16:04] <Ariadne> schestowitz[TR]: will try to get it done tonight, yesterday i was not running on much sleep because of my stupid neighbors launching fireworks at 4:30am
17:25 Techrights-sec; excellent
17:38 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/07/06/north-korean-state-sponsored-cyber-actors-use-maui-ransomware see http://techrights.org/2020/06/09/windows-disaster-zones/
17:38 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cisa.gov | North Korean State-Sponsored Cyber Actors Use Maui Ransomware to Target the Healthcare and Public Health Sector | CISA
17:38 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Index of the Series About Windows Inside Hospitals (Causing Hospitals to Become Disaster Zones) | Techrights
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17:48 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "It seems to me that I have been force-fed Google's services by almost everyone in my life: friends, family, but most notably school. My school's tech department *really* loves Google and uses it for blaming-everything-on-linux.gif blaming-everything-on-linux.webm - Google Classroom for homework assignments, Gmail for all communications" gemini://tilde.cafe/~winter/gemlog/2022-07-06_forced_google.gmi
17:49 schestowitz-TR; Andy wrote about this too
17:49 schestowitz-TR; another issue we'll have to tackle in years to come
17:49 schestowitz-TR; at least raise awareness
17:49 schestowitz-TR; for me, getting rid of gulag entirely means people cannot use the typical counteratgument
17:53 psydroid2; Microsoft brigade?
17:54 schestowitz-TR; psydroid2: context|?
17:54 Techrights-sec; ack
17:54 schestowitz-TR; psydroid2: Oh, I see
17:54 schestowitz-TR; maybe not Microsoft
17:55 schestowitz-TR; anyone who uses Gulag and looks for excuses not to desist
17:55 schestowitz-TR; and then attacks those who successfully refrain
17:55 schestowitz-TR; that's why many people gleefully joined the anti-RMS mob
18:06 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> SJVN... business trip... with ChromeOS??? https://www.zdnet.com/article/a-new-chromebook-saved-my-bacon-when-my-old-one-died-in-mid-business-trip/#ftag=RSSbaffb68
18:06 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-A new Chromebook saved my bacon when my old one died mid-business trip | ZDNet
18:07 schestowitz-TR; UNIX beard -> GNU/Linux beard -> Linux bird -> Gulag used
18:13 Techrights-sec; https://www.gov.uk/cma-cases/microsoft-slash-activision-blizzard-merger-inquiry
18:13 Techrights-sec; the deadline for you, Rianne, Andy, etc to comment is 20 July
18:13 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Microsoft / Activision Blizzard merger inquiry - GOV.UK
18:13 psydroid2; -> got his brain eaten by a praying mantiss and turned into a zombird
18:13 schestowitz-TR; I could put in a letter but without money *hush hush* inside the envelope
18:13 schestowitz-TR; criminals usually get their way here
18:14 Techrights-sec; it'd still be worth turning in a formal comment
18:14 schestowitz-TR; maybe this weekend, plus copy in TR
18:18 Techrights-sec; excellent!
18:18 Techrights-sec; can you ask others there in the UK, too?
18:19 schestowitz-TR; maybe, but not now as I race against the clock to make time in case we get a fresh new machine today and I can configure the stack, dns etc.
18:19 schestowitz-TR; and start prototyping ;-)
18:29 Techrights-sec; ack
18:36 schestowitz-TR; psydroid2: are you interested in getting involved?
18:37 schestowitz-TR; we are likely making a simple CMS
18:37 schestowitz-TR; and if it's good, it'll be used in Techrights too
18:37 psydroid2; schestowitz-TR, I don't know anything about web technologies, so I don't think I would be of any help
19:07 schestowitz-TR; LibreOffice: we have "over 200 million users around the globe" https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/07/06/join-the-libreoffice-team-as-a-web-technology-engineer-m-f-d-10-20h-per-week-remote/
19:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.documentfoundation.org | Join the LibreOffice Team as a Web Technology Engineer (m/f/d), 10-20h per week, remote - The Document Foundation Blog
19:07 Techrights-sec; ack
19:20 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> NSA Bruce https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/07/nist-announces-first-four-quantum-resistant-cryptographic-algorithms.html
19:20 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-NIST Announces First Four Quantum-Resistant Cryptographic Algorithms - Schneier on Security
19:38 Techrights-sec; ack
19:42 schestowitz-TR; he loves squids
19:42 schestowitz-TR; know for...
19:42 schestowitz-TR; eyesight (all seeing)
19:42 schestowitz-TR; many tentacles
19:42 schestowitz-TR; strong "teeth"
19:42 schestowitz-TR; going under
19:42 schestowitz-TR; shrewdness and shape-shifting
19:42 schestowitz-TR; I was about to add colour shifting too
19:42 schestowitz-TR; based on videos I saw
19:42 schestowitz-TR; and some typos above
19:42 schestowitz-TR; but I still don't know the history well know to understand why he does that friday squid theme
19:42 schestowitz-TR; I used to think because of squid the s/w
19:42 schestowitz-TR; NSA uses the squid for some symbolism
19:42 Techrights-sec; ack
19:42 Techrights-sec; color shifting
19:42 Techrights-sec; no idea
19:49 schestowitz-TR; holy s*
19:49 schestowitz-TR; covid numbers preview
19:49 schestowitz-TR; writing...
19:49 schestowitz-TR; itwire = shit site, with a needle in its haystack, almost always from one person, who himself does a lot of fake "reporting"
19:49 schestowitz-TR; probably a condition for him staying
19:49 Techrights-sec; https://itwire.com/it-people-news/people-moves/logicalis-engages-antoniou-as-microsoft-engagement-manager.html
19:49 Techrights-sec; yes it is. however the troubling news is that the one company is paying
19:49 Techrights-sec; the salary of a microsofter working for microsoft but inside the company
19:49 Techrights-sec; the one company is basically paying for an M$ handler
19:49 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-iTWire - Logicalis engages Antoniou as Microsoft engagement manager
19:50 schestowitz-TR; I don't know anything about this company
19:50 schestowitz-TR; and I doubt this is newsworthy
19:50 schestowitz-TR; propos, see what I just published re phoronix
19:50 schestowitz-TR; hope it's not TOO harsh
19:53 Techrights-sec; the specific company is not important the problem is that M$ has been trying
19:53 Techrights-sec; to do that for years and are increasing their aggressive and burdenship
19:53 Techrights-sec; relationship to other companies
19:53 Techrights-sec; it's similar to when they started naming sales teams like they were official
19:53 Techrights-sec; public sector government jobs
19:53 Techrights-sec; meh if there was not sufficient disclaimer there at phoronix ...
19:53 Techrights-sec; disclaimer / disclosure of conflict of interest ...
20:07 schestowitz-TR; COVID-19: We're Back to Wintertime Crisis Levels (and It's Only July) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/06/wintertime-crisis-levels-in-summer/
20:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive COVID-19: Were Back to Wintertime Crisis Levels (and Its Only July)
20:08 schestowitz-TR; 0/
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