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05:19 schestowitz-TR; gm

05:19 Techrights-sec; gm

05:19 Techrights-sec; whats lennart poettering's new job?

05:19 Techrights-sec; or employer?

05:22 schestowitz-TR; I saw speculations only

05:22 schestowitz-TR; like consulting

05:22 schestowitz-TR; no doubt he and his mates have a lot of control over gnu/linux

05:22 schestowitz-TR; maybe soon more than kernel/LF or even gnu

05:22 schestowitz-TR; as they control many very core components, from dns to booting, even user accounts and homedir

05:22 schestowitz-TR; maybe USA did "operation paperclip" on him ;-p

05:22 schestowitz-TR; btw, on friday we'll know the company's decision

05:22 schestowitz-TR; if the cake and cider don't get used on friday, then next tuesday

05:22 schestowitz-TR; either way, I invested about 5 hours yesterday planning TM migration

05:22 schestowitz-TR; and this morning I put the "factory reset" on my new laptop

05:22 schestowitz-TR; for when we take the old site read-only

05:22 schestowitz-TR; thrilling to do this after 18+ years, software was never built to last this long

05:22 Techrights-sec; ok

05:22 Techrights-sec; ack

05:25 schestowitz-TR; if we get what we asked for, then we start working 1am sat, then sunday 5:30 we finish, with 8-hour break in the middle (covered by new colleague from the US)

05:25 schestowitz-TR; then 128 hours free, sans additional cover for sick colleagues or holidays

05:25 schestowitz-TR; (for extra pay)

05:25 Techrights-sec; ack

05:25 Techrights-sec; https://www.history.com/news/what-was-operation-paperclip

↺ https://www.history.com/news/what-was-operation-paperclip

05:25 Techrights-sec; when will they give their answer about the new schedule?

05:25 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-What Was Operation Paperclip? - HISTORY

05:26 schestowitz-TR; tentative or final decision friday afternoon

05:29 schestowitz-TR; I dare you to find a static and/or flat-file CMS (or "headless"... BS like "serverless") that has rss support

05:29 schestowitz-TR; or decent rss support

05:29 schestowitz-TR; the CMS status quo is bad.. few players are potent enough, the rest seems like hobbies

05:29 Techrights-sec; ok

05:29 Techrights-sec; Probably easier to write one, but then there is the matter of UI

05:30 schestowitz-TR; to me, the hard part is the rss stuff as it needs to know age of files and making a properly contructed FULL TEXT RSS feed that validates OK

05:30 schestowitz-TR; is not so easy

05:33 Techrights-sec; that's very easy to do in perl and not that hard in python

05:33 Techrights-sec; with raw, static HTML if the <meta /> element is used in the <head> element

05:33 Techrights-sec; then one can be the date of publication and that can be extracted using XPath

05:33 Techrights-sec; combined with some file system metadata that gets all the recently modified

05:33 Techrights-sec; files and their official publication dates

05:33 Techrights-sec; Static HTML with templates, supplemented with a validator, and CSS might

05:33 Techrights-sec; be the way to go if the generators seem poorly thought out and implemented

05:37 schestowitz-TR; right, I agree

05:37 schestowitz-TR; to me, a concerning aspect, based on my reading, many of those that do not have database still use a lot of CPU and RAM to

05:37 schestowitz-TR; "compute" something with php or similar, e.g. adding template stuff or blocks [sic]

05:37 schestowitz-TR; so you end up not really serving some .html file over and over again, there's still a loop

05:37 schestowitz-TR; let me leap a step ahead and say, it seem their real "savings" are, instead of having a *gasp*

05:37 schestowitz-TR; db let's just store every post as a file, then you can edit the file directly (DAV etc) instead of using INSERT/UPDATE

05:37 schestowitz-TR; but much of the rest is the same, namely some script compiling all the bits

05:37 schestowitz-TR; the DB itself is a file

05:37 schestowitz-TR; but a very large file

05:37 schestowitz-TR; so they say, let's make lots and lots of files

05:37 schestowitz-TR; kaniini wants cpu usage to go down a bit

05:37 schestowitz-TR; and mentioned movable type

05:37 schestowitz-TR; but many ran away from it because of the licence, it's still actively developed

05:37 schestowitz-TR; I always found it inflexible and ugly

05:37 schestowitz-TR; only very tasteless blogs still use it

05:42 Techrights-sec; PHP is not a good idea here

05:42 Techrights-sec; Now some things would have to be re-generated when new files are added and

05:42 Techrights-sec; perhaps the safer way would be to use SSI for many things.

05:42 Techrights-sec; I'm wondering how simplified the interactions can be with some shell or python

05:42 Techrights-sec; scripts and templates.

05:42 Techrights-sec; Maybe the script can ask for and validate metadata, then fire up an editor,

05:43 Techrights-sec; validate the editing and use that as a body, then generate the new page and

05:43 Techrights-sec; update the SSI components

05:43 Techrights-sec; oh. I am weak at GUI

05:43 Techrights-sec; but the above would work with multiple users

05:43 Techrights-sec; however a disadvantage would be that I am thinking in a way that depends on

05:43 Techrights-sec; shell access

05:46 schestowitz-TR; remember we may need multiple users (e.g. marius) and some decent GUI for html code to be inserted

05:46 schestowitz-TR; and this would be done and redone many times a day

05:46 schestowitz-TR; if we roll out out own and go the shell way there is a lot that can be automated and made more efficient, like having many files open at the same time

05:47 schestowitz-TR; and then update as "followup" stories come

05:47 schestowitz-TR; to me, the "hard" part is likely rss

05:47 schestowitz-TR; as for templating, one common 90s technique was to put markers for the page and then scan all the files, inserting charges were thge markers are or at start and end

05:47 schestowitz-TR; like we do in video galleries in techright

05:47 Techrights-sec; RSS is "just" a matter of harvesting data and then writing an XML file

05:52 schestowitz-TR; here is an idea

05:52 schestowitz-TR; (bear with me)

05:52 schestowitz-TR; a) in "old" TM when we add a comment ('update') it shows the node at the top of an index at the front page

05:52 schestowitz-TR; it gets 'bumped' up

05:52 schestowitz-TR; the idea is, indicte to people a node has an update

05:52 schestowitz-TR; now...

05:52 schestowitz-TR; b) in "new" tm we can have a directory full of html files

05:52 schestowitz-TR; c) sort all files by age (might now scale well, but can be split into years as subdir

05:52 schestowitz-TR; d) then present 20 files based on last modified, generate rss feeds and front page from these

05:52 schestowitz-TR; pros: easy to manage, rsync for backups, with occasional full snapshots

05:52 schestowitz-TR; can be efficent if you regenerate the front page and rss every 3 mins, scanning all the files, adding something from template like <head>

05:52 schestowitz-TR; then write an index based on what's to follow

05:53 Techrights-sec; find -newerMT ...

05:53 Techrights-sec; yes b, c, and d are easy; a question is about how to 'preview' via the web while

05:53 Techrights-sec; editing via the shell in a reliable and non-public mannner; I guess there

05:53 Techrights-sec; are several ways to do that too

05:53 Techrights-sec; No need to scan everything repeatedly

05:53 Techrights-sec; with a new OS the inotify system can be used and incron used to fire up the

05:53 Techrights-sec; index and other processing tools wheneve a new file is added to the 'published'

05:53 Techrights-sec; directory


6 AM, July 6

06:02 Techrights-sec; https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-inotify-examples-to-replicate-directories/

↺ https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-inotify-examples-to-replicate-directories/

06:02 Techrights-sec; works well for small, infrequent additions or deletions

06:02 Techrights-sec; https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/incron-command-in-linux-with-examples/

↺ https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/incron-command-in-linux-with-examples/

06:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-inotify-examples-to-replicate-directories/ )

↺ https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-inotify-examples-to-replicate-directories/

06:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.geeksforgeeks.org | Incron command in Linux with Examples - GeeksforGeeks

06:06 schestowitz-TR; just been upstairs, thought how to do the individual page files such that they contain some html in them other than the "core" bits

06:06 schestowitz-TR; such that pages can be served

06:11 Techrights-sec; creating the pages with a script is no problem but going back and editing

06:11 Techrights-sec; the pages would not be possible with the same script and would mean

06:11 Techrights-sec; editing raw HTML then; however it is amost unheard of to edit a page on TR or TM

06:11 Techrights-sec; SSI can allow the standardized bits (logos, menus, footers, etc) to be kept in

06:11 Techrights-sec; external files and thus in a single location

06:12 schestowitz-TR; OK, here is a trick

06:12 schestowitz-TR; Each file has a template, then some markers for start and end of "core" stuff

06:12 schestowitz-TR; the script that makes front page and rss feed uses those markers to only scan the "content" ("core")

06:12 schestowitz-TR; yes, that can be <body>, but maybe better <div> assuming that you want some page bits like menu

06:17 Techrights-sec; those markers are meta elements: https://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_meta.asp

↺ https://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_meta.asp

06:17 Techrights-sec; those can be queried by a script and then an editor fired up for the article

06:17 Techrights-sec; text; then once the article is edited, the pieces combined into a single HTML

06:17 Techrights-sec; page and then the RSS and indexing scripts triggered

06:17 Techrights-sec; the actual HTML <body> element would have a heck of a lot more from the template

06:17 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.w3schools.com | HTML meta tag

06:17 Techrights-sec; there would be the logo, menus, and footers; a specific <div> element can be

06:17 Techrights-sec; singled out at replaced with the text produced by the above mentioned editor

06:17 Techrights-sec; metadata: date, title, slug, author, category

06:17 Techrights-sec; yes; and author can be from the login / user environment variable

06:17 Techrights-sec; ok not categories but maybe some descriptive keywords in an uncontrolled

06:17 Techrights-sec; vocabulary

06:17 Techrights-sec; yes data can be automatically filled in at the time of creation

06:17 schestowitz-TR; thge slug is the file name

06:17 schestowitz-TR; author does not matter

06:17 schestowitz-TR; categories might also be extra overhead for little practical gain

06:17 schestowitz-TR; the date can be derived from file last modified or created

06:25 schestowitz-TR; we can use the camelcase code to improve presentation of links, assuming P for Perl in LAMP

06:25 schestowitz-TR; but that's a side thing

06:25 schestowitz-TR; given the simplicity of the site I think this covers everything

06:25 schestowitz-TR; the web in 2004 involved many people leaving comments and comment spam was only starting to become a problem

06:26 Techrights-sec; comments would be a whole new can of worms and would not only require a full

06:26 Techrights-sec; web-based "framework" with authentication / login and such but also time

06:26 Techrights-sec; curating the comments and culling spam post haste. Best to stick with the

06:26 Techrights-sec; current policy of encouraging use of the IRC channels instead.

06:27 schestowitz-TR; SN will be gone one day, maybe even soon (<5 years)

06:27 schestowitz-TR; not under out control

06:27 schestowitz-TR; *our

06:29 schestowitz-TR; rolling out our own will give more flexibility and removal of 'feature churn'

06:29 schestowitz-TR; social control media or webapps are not a TM thing

06:29 schestowitz-TR; and that's actually a strength

06:29 schestowitz-TR; our core crowd is geeks, not phone slingers like zemlin

06:34 schestowitz-TR; just seen your remark on gulag noise

06:34 schestowitz-TR; I agree, but the explanation is simple

06:35 schestowitz-TR; you see what they are up to in the "front page"

06:35 schestowitz-TR; or the very poor curation os sources

06:35 schestowitz-TR; and I opted out of this shit

06:35 schestowitz-TR; so I can focus on signal

06:35 schestowitz-TR; they see wide and fast

06:35 schestowitz-TR; but the processing they then do it subpar to say the least

06:35 schestowitz-TR; the goals are financial, the users are a secondary concern

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06:54 schestowitz-TR; I reckon the only reason you sent some MSN links this past week was gulag noise


7 AM, July 6

07:02 schestowitz-TR; 3 mins ago tuxmachines db had warnings again

07:02 schestowitz-TR; repairing

07:02 schestowitz-TR; might be down a few mins

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08:05 *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer).

08:06 *Now talking on #boycottnovell

08:51 Techrights-sec; still wondering what the cause is, eventually it will break if it continues

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08:52 schestowitz-TR; I assume it'll be a lot more stable after >I restore from the backup

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08:58 Techrights-sec; ok


9 AM, July 6

09:29 schestowitz-TR; irc post for today


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10:34 schestowitz-TR; ^ a

10:34 schestowitz-TR; b) back from exercise

10:34 schestowitz-TR; c) maybe nennart fogures red hat was his transmeta and now it's time for Lennux Foundation

10:34 schestowitz-TR; d) if we make a CMS for TM, as per above specs, we can later use the same for TR, maybe schestowitz.com too

10:51 Techrights-sec; c) :/ probably truye

10:51 Techrights-sec; d) specs are something to consider in detail then

10:56 schestowitz-TR; to keep number of files lower it can help to have one directory per year, but this would limit flexibility

10:56 schestowitz-TR; tuxmachines is about 15k files per year

10:56 schestowitz-TR; later we can add witty functionality for extra speed and better usability, e.g. scan for related titles and present "related"

10:56 schestowitz-TR; nodes

10:56 schestowitz-TR; then "attach" to the current new file before pressing save

10:56 schestowitz-TR; TR=soon 34k posts

10:56 schestowitz-TR; schestoweitz.com only about 2.5k

10:56 schestowitz-TR; many old CMS assumed people used large monitors

10:56 schestowitz-TR; hence many panes and stuff

10:56 schestowitz-TR; they replace one kind of bloat with another kind


11 AM, July 6

11:26 Techrights-sec; how should graphics be uploaded / managed, and other formats beyond HTML ?

11:28 schestowitz-TR; the old traditional way

11:28 schestowitz-TR; upload to a directory, then link to that from html

11:29 Techrights-sec; please clarify?

11:29 Techrights-sec; fwiw sqlite is not multi-user so in theory for concurrent editing postgresql

11:29 Techrights-sec; or mariadb would be needed

11:29 Techrights-sec; uploading to a directory and then linking manually from the HTML introduces

11:29 Techrights-sec; a lot of steps each with potential for mistakes

11:39 schestowitz-TR; concurrent editing better done with git, which we can do

11:39 schestowitz-TR; but for tuxmachines version conttrol seems over the top for mere "nodes"

11:43 Techrights-sec; that's an idea: build the site in Git and publish via pull

11:43 Techrights-sec; however consistency and standardization is not possible with manual action

11:43 Techrights-sec; alone, there have to be a lot of helper scripts to create chokepoints at

11:43 Techrights-sec; which incorrect markup (not valid or nonconforming to the right style) are

11:43 Techrights-sec; blocked from publishing

11:43 Techrights-sec; the work flow has to end up being as simple as filling in a form IMHO

11:46 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> EU Parliament https://www.eff.org/press/releases/eff-statement-eu-parliaments-formal-approval-digital-services-act-and-digital-markets EFF still ignores EPO corruption entirely, says "rein in the power of Facebook, Google, Apple, and Amazon" and leaves out MIRCOSOFT (why again?)

↺ https://www.eff.org/press/releases/eff-statement-eu-parliaments-formal-approval-digital-services-act-and-digital-markets

11:46 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | EFF Statement on EU Parliaments Adoption of Digital Services Act and Digital Markets Act | Electronic Frontier Foundation

11:47 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Nowadays it's easy to feel like EFF became a bit of a front group for Microsoft. It even gives AWARDS to Microsoft employees and shills Microsoft proxies like DDG. Then it defames RMS. What the actual funk?

11:47 schestowitz-TR; I was about to say,

11:47 schestowitz-TR; knowing Marius is the only VALUABLE contributor we have,

11:47 schestowitz-TR; we can set up user accounts on the server

11:47 schestowitz-TR; with ssh keys

11:47 schestowitz-TR; then make a script that asks you to enter the html bits

11:47 schestowitz-TR; then opens it for preview locally in your browser

11:47 schestowitz-TR; then copies to the server

11:47 schestowitz-TR; editing existing notes, e.g. to add more links, would be another wordflow, maybe DAV-like

11:47 schestowitz-TR; but that's thinking several steps ahead already

11:47 schestowitz-TR; (this kind of work will give us a lot of material to publish... articles, videos... I plan to record soon

11:47 schestowitz-TR; about youtube over gemini... yes, it's a thing now)

11:54 Techrights-sec; ack

11:57 schestowitz-TR; further thought

11:57 schestowitz-TR; rianne does android leftovers

11:57 schestowitz-TR; saves as android.html

11:58 schestowitz-TR; runs script

11:58 schestowitz-TR; script adds date

11:58 schestowitz-TR; 06-07-2022-android.html

11:58 schestowitz-TR; opens it in browser

11:58 schestowitz-TR; if OK, add footer, header etc. from template and upload

11:58 schestowitz-TR; rianne gets to keep local copies, so there are "backups"m too

11:58 Techrights-sec; ack


noon, July 6

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12:32 schestowitz-TR; bad cat

12:32 Techrights-sec; more or less

12:48 schestowitz-TR; draft

12:48 Techrights-sec; checking

12:48 Techrights-sec; The Gemini protocol still (AFAIK) has a bug which prevents handling of very

12:48 Techrights-sec; large files and therefore Video over Gemini is /not/ possible.

12:48 Techrights-sec; s/possible/feasible/

12:48 schestowitz-TR; in this case, it worked OK

12:48 schestowitz-TR; 78mb, 10 min, hd

12:51 Techrights-sec; the protocol cannot handle large files, it might work /sometimes/ but is

12:51 Techrights-sec; neither reliable nor accurate in that regard; anything other than small files

12:51 Techrights-sec; is very strongly inadvisable

12:51 Techrights-sec; yes, something will download but it will not necessarily be either complete or

12:51 Techrights-sec; accurate

12:52 schestowitz-TR; mind if I add this as footnote?

12:52 Techrights-sec; np

12:53 Techrights-sec; best to write an article which avoids using large files though

12:56 Techrights-sec; schools are still paying the price for using m$ products in that they are

12:56 Techrights-sec; hit multiple times by ransomware and even then still don't learn their lesson

12:58 schestowitz-TR; they should pay Microsoft to issue an analytical report like it did for Ukraine

12:58 schestowitz-TR; money well spent ^_^

12:58 schestowitz-TR; or have a "Ransomware task force"

12:58 Techrights-sec; :(

12:58 Techrights-sec; or invite them to Washington DC to meet with more politicians :/

12:58 Techrights-sec; ^sarcasm


1 PM, July 6

13:01 schestowitz-TR; old company story in a nutshell

13:01 schestowitz-TR; we once had a "boss" called john

13:01 schestowitz-TR; he was not a techie

13:01 schestowitz-TR; he worked behind our backs to poach our clients into his own thing

13:01 schestowitz-TR; since I joined he was at least the second person to do this and get caught

13:01 schestowitz-TR; after we sacked him he wrote in twitter a tweet like

13:01 schestowitz-TR; "some things are better left to Microsoft';

13:01 schestowitz-TR; when justifying using some Microsoft things

13:01 schestowitz-TR; prior to that, for his meetings he insisted on using skype

13:01 schestowitz-TR; of course workers were upset

13:01 schestowitz-TR; so that's the story in a nutshell

13:01 schestowitz-TR; you can find better employees than him in ther street, holding a sign "will coe html for food"

13:01 schestowitz-TR; they would be more reliable

13:05 Techrights-sec; microsofters are trying to get ukraine to allow m$ to hold their data hostage

13:05 Techrights-sec; in their "cloud"

13:06 schestowitz-TR; so we must call them out on it

13:06 schestowitz-TR; if we have refs and a way to respond well

13:06 schestowitz-TR; I often put such stories in Security leftovers in TM as well

13:06 schestowitz-TR; that's just the most we can do tbh

13:06 Techrights-sec; yes

13:06 Techrights-sec; and lobbyists including brad smith are in and out of high politicians' offices

13:06 Techrights-sec; like there were in a cheap motel

13:06 Techrights-sec; instead of being thrashed and locked up, he and his assistants are all over DC

13:08 schestowitz-TR; I saw his photos in that new article

13:08 schestowitz-TR; it is in TM too

13:08 schestowitz-TR; to help amplify those who did the legwork to explain what Microsoft is up to

13:11 Techrights-sec; they have 10s of thousands of minions aroud the world all working overtime

13:11 Techrights-sec; to weaken the cyberdefense in their respective countries

13:11 Techrights-sec; s/weaken/weaken and undermine/

13:12 schestowitz-TR; this number will decrease proportional to their lessened profits or losses

13:12 schestowitz-TR; so we need to keep hacking away at their corporse of a company

13:12 schestowitz-TR; it's a lot bigger than novell

13:12 schestowitz-TR; so much hacking will be needed

13:12 Techrights-sec; they would have gone away long ago if not for the bailouts

13:13 schestowitz-TR; yes, beat me to it

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13:25 Techrights-sec; ack

13:25 Techrights-sec; how comforatble are rianne and marius with nano or other text-based editor?

13:26 schestowitz-TR; rianne uses nano at work

13:26 schestowitz-TR; marius is a unix/linuix geek, so...

13:26 schestowitz-TR; and we mostly paste into browser/terminal from a text editor like kate anyway

13:27 Techrights-sec; ok

13:27 Techrights-sec; thanks

13:27 Techrights-sec; which static site generator(s), if any, made the shortlist?

13:28 schestowitz-TR; htmly

13:28 schestowitz-TR; but for its rss support

13:28 schestowitz-TR; however the feeds seem abbreviated

13:28 schestowitz-TR; we need full text rss feeds to reat users with more than "click here" BS (to drive up useless "hits")

13:28 Techrights-sec; it looks like it might be extensible or at least modifiable

13:37 schestowitz-TR; see their dependencies

13:37 schestowitz-TR; many of the ones I looked at are node or laravel or some other framework and lots of github everywhere

13:37 schestowitz-TR; my mental framework goes like, will this be properly supported in 10 years?

13:38 schestowitz-TR; many GUI stuff I did in the past 20+ years can barely even run

13:38 schestowitz-TR; gtk1, cogl, qt

13:38 schestowitz-TR; it's OK if you want to write and rewrite things

13:38 schestowitz-TR; same for python and php

13:38 schestowitz-TR; xul, swf, javafx..

13:38 Techrights-sec; ack

13:40 schestowitz-TR; software need to slow the f* down

13:40 schestowitz-TR; focus or devote resources to keeping existing things

13:40 schestowitz-TR; not feature churn

13:40 schestowitz-TR; I use the Microsoft Office analogy a lot

13:41 schestowitz-TR; yesterday in IRC I last did this

13:41 schestowitz-TR; mom and pop writing a letter don't need a 500MB program

13:41 schestowitz-TR; (or a new PC fore that matter)

13:41 schestowitz-TR; I get weather forecats from two independent source, one in the CLI another in Gemini, then compare

13:41 schestowitz-TR; tomorrow might be good for bike ride

13:41 schestowitz-TR; that takes like 1mb of ram

13:41 schestowitz-TR; BillBC Weather is 200-300MB for the browser alone, before getting to any pages

13:41 Techrights-sec; ack

13:43 Techrights-sec; htmly seems rather primitive and, worse, awkward; however, I'm not sure

13:43 Techrights-sec; how much better we could do ourselves here

13:45 schestowitz-TR; as I said today, or maybe yestyerday, CMS space is either hobby or bloat

13:45 schestowitz-TR; consolidation around several bloatware

13:45 schestowitz-TR; with 90% stuff TM does NOT need

13:45 schestowitz-TR; not for routine things

13:45 schestowitz-TR; the other stuff I found I'd not trust to scale well to 10k...50k nodes

13:45 schestowitz-TR; wordpress 1.2 still could not deal with "too many" posts in the same catagory

13:45 schestowitz-TR; therea was no pagination

13:45 schestowitz-TR; you had to add plugins for pagination


2 PM, July 6

14:06 Techrights-sec; ack

14:07 schestowitz-TR; billbc: cranks belittle covid-19

14:07 schestowitz-TR; but it's OK when we do the same

14:07 schestowitz-TR; because we're the bill fucking c(unt)

14:07 Techrights-sec; ack

14:07 schestowitz-TR; this sort of doublestandardism is abundant

14:07 schestowitz-TR; like icbm using the word "master" all the time

14:07 schestowitz-TR; we need to call them out on it

14:33 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Spamnil has just bought himself another round of clickfraud in YouTube. Linux Foundation passes money to a fraud. http://techrights.org/2022/06/08/lf-defrauding-clients/

http://techrights.org/2022/06/08/lf-defrauding-clients/

14:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | New Lows: Linux Foundation Defrauding Clients | Techrights

14:37 Techrights-sec; ack

14:37 Techrights-sec; I don't ever click on his links, not that I'd run across them anyway

14:37 Techrights-sec; LF now exists to degrade the brand

14:37 Techrights-sec; and run it into the ground

14:37 schestowitz-TR; LF is scamming companies

14:37 schestowitz-TR; inc. startups

14:37 schestowitz-TR; they deserve to know

14:38 schestowitz-TR; rathger, I would say,

14:38 schestowitz-TR; it sells the brand to those looking to destroy Linux itself

14:38 schestowitz-TR; aka "controlled opposition

14:38 schestowitz-TR; there's more money in doing that than in promoting free-as-in-freedom FAIF s/w

14:39 Techrights-sec; yes that's probably a more clear way to put it

14:47 schestowitz-TR; over time more and more people/sites/orgs see it the same way

14:47 schestowitz-TR; which is what we want

14:47 schestowitz-TR; epo is quitly tense at the moment, they cannot hire examiners

14:47 schestowitz-TR; LF has not hired high-calibre people in recent years

14:47 schestowitz-TR; just many incognitos and posers

14:47 schestowitz-TR; reminds me of Novell and now Red Hat

14:47 schestowitz-TR; one way to hurt an org is to make it unable to attract capable workers

14:47 schestowitz-TR; as they research before accepting a job offer

14:47 schestowitz-TR; plus, many capable people leave, and projects are in dire straits

14:47 schestowitz-TR; shithub has been relativbely quiet and now sfc surprisingly "moves for the kill

14:47 schestowitz-TR; matey is a lot more pessimistic than I am

14:50 schestowitz-TR; orgs are different, the blueprints and methods are largely the same

14:50 schestowitz-TR; the largeer the org (or better connected), the more blows it takes

14:50 schestowitz-TR; you hardly hear of "black duck" anymore

14:50 schestowitz-TR; snyk is the new "black duck"

14:53 Techrights-sec; ack

14:54 schestowitz-TR; a)m their tactics is to portray the critics as insane or hatefyl

14:54 schestowitz-TR; b) we need patients, happiness, health (anger harms morale and corrodes the mind)

14:54 schestowitz-TR; *patience

14:54 schestowitz-TR; c) if you don't censor, they call you what they call those whom you don't censor. If you censor, they call you tyrant etc.

14:55 schestowitz-TR; wait till MS finds out and openly acknowledges android uses Linux

14:56 schestowitz-TR; (to zemlin's credit, he does mention this a lot)

14:56 schestowitz-TR; and he uses iphone!1LOL

14:56 schestowitz-TR; /s/MS/MSM

14:56 Techrights-sec; yep they attack regardless

14:56 Techrights-sec; :/ zemlin is a turd

14:57 schestowitz-TR; I was going to say poophead, but you beat me to it

14:57 schestowitz-TR; no matter the words, his actiosns speak volumes

14:57 schestowitz-TR; like spamnil on his mac, with a banner that says "LINUX" behind him in videos

14:57 schestowitz-TR; where he speaks to proprietary shits and promotes crap

14:58 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2022/07/02/finland-share-summer-2022/

http://techrights.org/2022/07/02/finland-share-summer-2022/

14:58 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Finland Turns 18 | Techrights

14:59 Techrights-sec; :)

14:59 Techrights-sec; still low but much improved

14:59 schestowitz-TR; the Tipping Point (TM)


3 PM, July 6

15:00 Techrights-sec; strange that the FreeBSD wankers have only 0%, but that is on the desktop only

15:03 schestowitz-TR; they will brag about netflix

15:03 schestowitz-TR; which is going down

15:03 schestowitz-TR; btw, ms will never recover on OS share

15:03 schestowitz-TR; nor emerge again in mobile

15:03 schestowitz-TR; with winCE (IIRC), about 20 years ago, they waged a war agaibT Palm OS and got some share of what was then still

15:03 schestowitz-TR; a small but growing market

15:03 schestowitz-TR; with blackberry also to join

15:03 schestowitz-TR; the mobile "widows" devices were too heavy

15:03 schestowitz-TR; too much reuse of paste code

15:04 schestowitz-TR; *pasta

15:04 schestowitz-TR; iPaq was one example

15:04 schestowitz-TR; when i was not yet an apple thing

15:04 schestowitz-TR; ipod was born around this time

15:04 schestowitz-TR; The EpsteinStarterKit

15:05 schestowitz-TR; with a t at the end, not a d

15:07 schestowitz-TR; we don'tm have lobbyists and advertisers (LF is Microsoft, we are the advertisers... as volunteers), so the media

15:07 schestowitz-TR; will almost make us seem smaller and worse than we actually ar

15:07 schestowitz-TR; elikewise, in patent debates they try to make 90% of the population seem insane or "pirate

15:07 schestowitz-TR; the copyright cartel does the same

15:07 schestowitz-TR; they play a game of moralitry from their peanut gallaeryk, at the gallery's expenses

15:07 schestowitz-TR; or the theatre's expoense rather

15:08 Techrights-sec; yes especially in recent years since M$ has become a lobbying / political

15:08 Techrights-sec; entity back 15 years ago or so

15:09 schestowitz-TR; 15 years ago they lacked an incentive to improve their "products"

15:09 schestowitz-TR; so they signed a novell patent deal and attacked everyone with protectionism (patrents)

15:09 schestowitz-TR; and settled lawsuits to reduce crimes' visibility

15:19 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Gardiner Bryant became de facto Valve marketing rep - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=uvyLngqwg0E Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia

↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=uvyLngqwg0E

15:19 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Set up DoomRPG on the Steam Deck (in under 5 minutes) - Invidious

15:24 Techrights-sec; ack

15:24 schestowitz-TR; see draft


4 PM, July 6

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16:44 Techrights-sec; checking

16:44 Techrights-sec; nicknames always need to be preceded or acompanied by the real name, for

16:44 Techrights-sec; several reasons including associating the article with search results for

16:44 Techrights-sec; their name


5 PM, July 6

17:24 schestowitz-TR; [16:04] <Ariadne> schestowitz[TR]: will try to get it done tonight, yesterday i was not running on much sleep because of my stupid neighbors launching fireworks at 4:30am

17:25 Techrights-sec; excellent

17:38 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/07/06/north-korean-state-sponsored-cyber-actors-use-maui-ransomware see http://techrights.org/2020/06/09/windows-disaster-zones/

↺ https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/07/06/north-korean-state-sponsored-cyber-actors-use-maui-ransomware

http://techrights.org/2020/06/09/windows-disaster-zones/

17:38 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cisa.gov | North Korean State-Sponsored Cyber Actors Use Maui Ransomware to Target the Healthcare and Public Health Sector | CISA

17:38 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Index of the Series About Windows Inside Hospitals (Causing Hospitals to Become Disaster Zones) | Techrights

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17:48 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "It seems to me that I have been force-fed Google's services by almost everyone in my life: friends, family, but most notably school. My school's tech department *really* loves Google and uses it for blaming-everything-on-linux.gif blaming-everything-on-linux.webm - Google Classroom for homework assignments, Gmail for all communications" gemini://tilde.cafe/~winter/gemlog/2022-07-06_forced_google.gmi

↺ gemini://tilde.cafe/~winter/gemlog/2022-07-06_forced_google.gmi

17:49 schestowitz-TR; Andy wrote about this too

17:49 schestowitz-TR; another issue we'll have to tackle in years to come

17:49 schestowitz-TR; at least raise awareness

17:49 schestowitz-TR; for me, getting rid of gulag entirely means people cannot use the typical counteratgument

17:53 psydroid2; Microsoft brigade?

17:54 schestowitz-TR; psydroid2: context|?

17:54 Techrights-sec; ack

17:54 schestowitz-TR; psydroid2: Oh, I see

17:54 schestowitz-TR; maybe not Microsoft

17:55 schestowitz-TR; anyone who uses Gulag and looks for excuses not to desist

17:55 schestowitz-TR; and then attacks those who successfully refrain

17:55 schestowitz-TR; that's why many people gleefully joined the anti-RMS mob


6 PM, July 6

18:06 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> SJVN... business trip... with ChromeOS??? https://www.zdnet.com/article/a-new-chromebook-saved-my-bacon-when-my-old-one-died-in-mid-business-trip/#ftag=RSSbaffb68

↺ https://www.zdnet.com/article/a-new-chromebook-saved-my-bacon-when-my-old-one-died-in-mid-business-trip/#ftag=RSSbaffb68

18:06 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-A new Chromebook saved my bacon when my old one died mid-business trip | ZDNet

18:07 schestowitz-TR; UNIX beard -> GNU/Linux beard -> Linux bird -> Gulag used

18:13 Techrights-sec; https://www.gov.uk/cma-cases/microsoft-slash-activision-blizzard-merger-inquiry

↺ https://www.gov.uk/cma-cases/microsoft-slash-activision-blizzard-merger-inquiry

18:13 Techrights-sec; the deadline for you, Rianne, Andy, etc to comment is 20 July

18:13 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Microsoft / Activision Blizzard merger inquiry - GOV.UK

18:13 psydroid2; -> got his brain eaten by a praying mantiss and turned into a zombird

18:13 schestowitz-TR; I could put in a letter but without money *hush hush* inside the envelope

18:13 schestowitz-TR; criminals usually get their way here

18:14 Techrights-sec; it'd still be worth turning in a formal comment

18:14 schestowitz-TR; maybe this weekend, plus copy in TR

18:18 Techrights-sec; excellent!

18:18 Techrights-sec; can you ask others there in the UK, too?

18:19 schestowitz-TR; maybe, but not now as I race against the clock to make time in case we get a fresh new machine today and I can configure the stack, dns etc.

18:19 schestowitz-TR; and start prototyping ;-)

18:29 Techrights-sec; ack

18:36 schestowitz-TR; psydroid2: are you interested in getting involved?

18:37 schestowitz-TR; we are likely making a simple CMS

18:37 schestowitz-TR; and if it's good, it'll be used in Techrights too

18:37 psydroid2; schestowitz-TR, I don't know anything about web technologies, so I don't think I would be of any help


7 PM, July 6

19:07 schestowitz-TR; LibreOffice: we have "over 200 million users around the globe" https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/07/06/join-the-libreoffice-team-as-a-web-technology-engineer-m-f-d-10-20h-per-week-remote/

↺ https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/07/06/join-the-libreoffice-team-as-a-web-technology-engineer-m-f-d-10-20h-per-week-remote/

19:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.documentfoundation.org | Join the LibreOffice Team as a Web Technology Engineer (m/f/d), 10-20h per week, remote - The Document Foundation Blog

19:07 Techrights-sec; ack

19:20 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> NSA Bruce https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/07/nist-announces-first-four-quantum-resistant-cryptographic-algorithms.html

↺ https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/07/nist-announces-first-four-quantum-resistant-cryptographic-algorithms.html

19:20 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-NIST Announces First Four Quantum-Resistant Cryptographic Algorithms - Schneier on Security

19:38 Techrights-sec; ack

19:42 schestowitz-TR; he loves squids

19:42 schestowitz-TR; know for...

19:42 schestowitz-TR; eyesight (all seeing)

19:42 schestowitz-TR; many tentacles

19:42 schestowitz-TR; strong "teeth"

19:42 schestowitz-TR; going under

19:42 schestowitz-TR; shrewdness and shape-shifting

19:42 schestowitz-TR; I was about to add colour shifting too

19:42 schestowitz-TR; based on videos I saw

19:42 schestowitz-TR; and some typos above

19:42 schestowitz-TR; but I still don't know the history well know to understand why he does that friday squid theme

19:42 schestowitz-TR; I used to think because of squid the s/w

19:42 schestowitz-TR; NSA uses the squid for some symbolism

19:42 Techrights-sec; ack

19:42 Techrights-sec; color shifting

19:42 Techrights-sec; no idea

19:49 schestowitz-TR; holy s*

19:49 schestowitz-TR; covid numbers preview

19:49 schestowitz-TR; writing...

19:49 schestowitz-TR; itwire = shit site, with a needle in its haystack, almost always from one person, who himself does a lot of fake "reporting"

19:49 schestowitz-TR; probably a condition for him staying

19:49 Techrights-sec; https://itwire.com/it-people-news/people-moves/logicalis-engages-antoniou-as-microsoft-engagement-manager.html

↺ https://itwire.com/it-people-news/people-moves/logicalis-engages-antoniou-as-microsoft-engagement-manager.html

19:49 Techrights-sec; yes it is. however the troubling news is that the one company is paying

19:49 Techrights-sec; the salary of a microsofter working for microsoft but inside the company

19:49 Techrights-sec; the one company is basically paying for an M$ handler

19:49 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-iTWire - Logicalis engages Antoniou as Microsoft engagement manager

19:50 schestowitz-TR; I don't know anything about this company

19:50 schestowitz-TR; and I doubt this is newsworthy

19:50 schestowitz-TR; propos, see what I just published re phoronix

19:50 schestowitz-TR; hope it's not TOO harsh

19:53 Techrights-sec; the specific company is not important the problem is that M$ has been trying

19:53 Techrights-sec; to do that for years and are increasing their aggressive and burdenship

19:53 Techrights-sec; relationship to other companies

19:53 Techrights-sec; it's similar to when they started naming sales teams like they were official

19:53 Techrights-sec; public sector government jobs

19:53 Techrights-sec; meh if there was not sufficient disclaimer there at phoronix ...

19:53 Techrights-sec; disclaimer / disclosure of conflict of interest ...


8 PM, July 6

20:07 schestowitz-TR; COVID-19: We're Back to Wintertime Crisis Levels (and It's Only July) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/06/wintertime-crisis-levels-in-summer/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/06/wintertime-crisis-levels-in-summer/

20:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive COVID-19: Were Back to Wintertime Crisis Levels (and Its Only July)

20:08 schestowitz-TR; 0/

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