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2 AM, June 6

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9 AM, June 6

09:08 schestowitz-TR; building a DC does not beget profits

09:08 schestowitz-TR; it symbolises an ambition

09:08 schestowitz-TR; mitchel has manwhile taken note of some Microsofgt DCs being mothballed

09:08 schestowitz-TR; remember windows is perishing

09:08 schestowitz-TR; they need something to replace that

09:08 schestowitz-TR; azure has not been financially viable, but like gulag with youtube

09:08 schestowitz-TR; they fudge the numbers to buy time

09:08 schestowitz-TR; in 2022 gulag admitted youtube was not performing well

09:08 schestowitz-TR; I posted about half a dozen link about this in IRC during the weekend

09:08 schestowitz-TR; while I was researching netflix, spotify and, gulagtube

09:08 schestowitz-TR; for microsoft, the "hosting" approach to collecting "rents" is the ambition

09:08 schestowitz-TR; billg is already struggling to sell his "doses"

09:08 schestowitz-TR; and soon half his wealth will be parted with

09:08 schestowitz-TR; in 10-20 years he'll be dead

09:08 Techrights-sec; not it begets control and political influence as well as surveillance

09:08 Techrights-sec; M$ does not have the money to keep them all running, I'd guess they stay

09:08 Techrights-sec; up only where the Pentagon is willing to pay for data

09:12 schestowitz-TR; this regime is largely insolvent

09:12 schestowitz-TR; after 2008 the debt was a lot smaller than now

09:12 schestowitz-TR; it's shooting up, out of control (see cumulative debt charts)

09:12 schestowitz-TR; and now the general population feels that in inflation, too

09:12 schestowitz-TR; all that graft will be harder to justify

09:12 schestowitz-TR; when the population is not preoccupied with attacking one another

09:12 schestowitz-TR; china has also been waiting patiently

09:12 schestowitz-TR; now it commands the markets

09:12 schestowitz-TR; like the effect of beijing lockdowns

09:12 schestowitz-TR; it's good they will adopt gnu/linux, but I don't think

09:12 schestowitz-TR; they will contribute anything, or as much ss Europe does

09:12 schestowitz-TR; I think "Linux" will be missing the point

09:12 schestowitz-TR; we're already there with Android

09:12 schestowitz-TR; but look how people use Android

09:13 Techrights-sec; The West is very poor at understanding the bility to scheme in the long term

09:13 Techrights-sec; in general, not just in the context of Russia, China, and Islam.

09:13 Techrights-sec; Or how Android uses people, rather. And the fact that it's more or less

09:13 Techrights-sec; closed source in practice despite being ostensibly open source. It's

09:13 Techrights-sec; a pervasive problem which I hope is no longer growing. Look at BigBlueButton

09:13 Techrights-sec; which is ostensibly FOSS but in practice a closed blob.

09:18 schestowitz-TR; many things we wrote over the years aged well wrt openweasing

09:18 schestowitz-TR; afaik I coined the term

09:18 schestowitz-TR; and it's not just android, also "chrome" (ium, vscodium...)

09:18 schestowitz-TR; I don't know BBB well enough, we deployed it ages ago

09:18 schestowitz-TR; rigth now rianne has 3 computer and 3 (three!) phones to keep up

09:18 schestowitz-TR; because all the accounts are all over the place, even VPNs

09:18 schestowitz-TR; it's mad1

09:18 schestowitz-TR; *!

09:18 schestowitz-TR; and jabber was silently killed

09:18 schestowitz-TR; by idiots

09:18 schestowitz-TR; it used OpenLDAP

09:18 schestowitz-TR; this is a symptom of a problem previously alluded to by your train of thought

09:18 schestowitz-TR; namely, the short term thinking in the west

09:18 schestowitz-TR; impulsive buying

09:18 schestowitz-TR; impluses everywhere

09:18 schestowitz-TR; no plans for 10-20 years down the line

09:18 schestowitz-TR; "God help us"... "thoughts and prayers"

09:18 schestowitz-TR; not to even comment on "Inshaallah"

09:18 schestowitz-TR; that's just nihilism

09:18 schestowitz-TR; but a lot of what exists now will die soon

09:18 schestowitz-TR; like Goolgle+

09:18 schestowitz-TR; and JoinDiaspora

09:18 schestowitz-TR; and Google Hangouts

09:18 schestowitz-TR; yes, they killed that too

09:18 schestowitz-TR; they still try to figure out how to 'monetise' other people's chats

09:19 Techrights-sec; yesm that is good

09:19 Techrights-sec; inaction in face of hostile opponents who have long term plans which exploit

09:19 Techrights-sec; that inaction

09:20 schestowitz-TR; reducing dependence on fossil fuel is a start

09:20 schestowitz-TR; not just "Russian gas"

09:21 Techrights-sec; not just that but they work against and agitate against all forms of open

09:21 Techrights-sec; standards and general interoperability.

09:21 Techrights-sec; I refuse to forgive Digg for taking side against open standards at a time

09:21 Techrights-sec; when Digg was at its peak popularity. Digg is gone but the damage it helped

09:21 Techrights-sec; do is not.

09:23 schestowitz-TR; in history timelines for the www many forget or leave out complely digg.com

09:23 schestowitz-TR; though it peaked for about 2 years

09:23 schestowitz-TR; I don't suppose Slashdot is regarded as much, either

09:23 schestowitz-TR; the life cycle of many sites is like this

09:23 schestowitz-TR; phoronix turned 18 yesterday

09:23 schestowitz-TR; today in shitter (twitter) I saw a microsofter linking to my posts about phoronix selling out

09:23 schestowitz-TR; not sure what to make of that...

09:32 Techrights-sec; slashdot died after a series of severe blows, each one successively worse

09:32 Techrights-sec; that the previous. Those were the repeated sales. It's mostly a spam site

09:32 Techrights-sec; with spam comments nowadays, the domain is still in use though even if only

09:32 Techrights-sec; [for spam

09:32 Techrights-sec; not sure, M$ is alwaus malevolent, so they certainly did not mean well by

09:32 Techrights-sec; lining, in any case.


11 AM, June 6

11:55 schestowitz-TR; I've just watched some "the linux gamer"

11:55 schestowitz-TR; videos, he made a new channel with his girlfriend

11:55 schestowitz-TR; I think (guess) some youtuber don't see their future

11:55 schestowitz-TR; there, judging by recent (years old) trends

11:55 schestowitz-TR; I feel bad for those who dropped out of college to do

11:55 schestowitz-TR; their youtube 'career'

11:55 schestowitz-TR; I explained video hosting to rianne yesterday

11:55 schestowitz-TR; as she tends to assume youtube is always

11:55 schestowitz-TR; "just there"...

11:55 schestowitz-TR; far too many people weree enticed by the 'free'

11:55 schestowitz-TR; with russian energy being cut, maybe Microsoft DCs can stop up and heat up the homes

11:55 schestowitz-TR; the DCs will burn lumber and oxygen

11:55 schestowitz-TR; then deliver what's left of the combustion

11:55 schestowitz-TR; "data processing"

11:55 schestowitz-TR; LF insists that Microsoft burning all this energy is "green" (bribed-for PR)

11:55 schestowitz-TR; and the other day christine hall promotes the DC openwashing initiative of

11:55 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft after LF had taken onboard

11:55 schestowitz-TR; she's so deep in LF pockets now that she would even participate in

11:56 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft openwashing

11:56 schestowitz-TR; sorry, this I cannot accept

11:56 schestowitz-TR; better retire like miss jones


noon, June 6

12:00 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Inside the risky world of 'Migrant TikTok' Rest of World https://restofworld.org/2022/migrant-tiktok-flourishes/ Glorifying illegal activities. Source: restofworld

↺ https://restofworld.org/2022/migrant-tiktok-flourishes/

12:00 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-restofworld.org | Inside the risky world of Migrant TikTok - Rest of World

12:02 Techrights-sec; yep she is undoing her past work and her past (good) reputation

12:02 Techrights-sec; smuggling and human trafficking is mediated via tiktok and facebook, they are

12:02 Techrights-sec; complicite in those crimes as well as the incidental loss of life resulting

12:02 Techrights-sec; from the process.

12:34 schestowitz-TR; draft

12:34 schestowitz-TR; hardshly worded or OK?

12:35 Techrights-sec; checking

12:35 Techrights-sec; ok, as long as the assertions are well-documented

12:35 Techrights-sec; might want to mention (along with the links) that they /are/ well-documented

12:35 schestowitz-TR; his response to me was a long non-denial

12:37 Techrights-sec; right but TR does have pages backing up the assertions still and those can

12:37 Techrights-sec; be linked to. Otherwise, it might be softened, but only slightly.

12:37 schestowitz-TR; therea<re 4 links there

12:42 Techrights-sec; ack

12:43 Techrights-sec; the last one is clearly labeled

12:43 Techrights-sec; yes

12:43 Techrights-sec; correct, but repetition / reminders are necessary : memories are short and new

12:43 Techrights-sec; people do show up and arrive in the middle of the saga

12:44 schestowitz-TR; this one I am quite certain about

12:45 schestowitz-TR; and he did have his window for response

12:45 schestowitz-TR; I don't publish things I might regret or unpublish at a later point

12:45 schestowitz-TR; there was an incentive for me to protect and send him traffic

12:45 schestowitz-TR; but I could no longer carry on

12:45 schestowitz-TR; this crate is a pandor'a box

12:45 schestowitz-TR; IU'm susprised he keeps publishing it

12:45 schestowitz-TR; some people's greatest weakness is a lack of reluctrance to show off

12:45 schestowitz-TR; it can become self-exposing if not incriminating

12:45 schestowitz-TR; many youtubers are like that

12:47 schestowitz-TR; oh, btw, gardiner insinuated that some criticiswm of mozills is "conspiracy theories"

12:47 schestowitz-TR; though he said conceded that some of it is legitimate

12:48 schestowitz-TR; I did not see any cracks speaking about mozilla

12:48 schestowitz-TR; then again, maybe I don't check shitpost sites like reddit

12:48 Techrights-sec; I've been ignoring Gardiner lately. He has gone out of his way to burn his

12:48 Techrights-sec; remaining credibility.

12:51 schestowitz-TR; he started a channel with his g/f emily (after the house move) and that channel is absolutely garbage

12:51 schestowitz-TR; but I am judging only by the first video there, which got the most views

12:52 schestowitz-TR; I thought of him because

12:52 schestowitz-TR; 1) the showoff thing (making a video about getting a huge house with BTC... where from? while turning the channelk into valvevi

12:52 schestowitz-TR; lla)

12:52 schestowitz-TR; 2) I was checking that fiefox video while shaving this morning

12:52 schestowitz-TR; *valveville

12:52 schestowitz-TR; then making a joke video about selling out

12:52 schestowitz-TR; then going mostly silent, with the odd valve video or just nothing

12:54 Techrights-sec; Yes, where from?

12:54 Techrights-sec; And changing the name of his channel

12:54 Techrights-sec; mostly by removing "Linux" from the title.

12:54 Techrights-sec; Lunduke also dropped FOSS / Linux topics completely, as well.

12:54 Techrights-sec; yes

12:56 schestowitz-TR; it's not just gardiner btw

12:56 schestowitz-TR; jason evangelho is now back... as the thunderbird blogger

12:56 schestowitz-TR; but his valve shilling blog shut abruptly

12:56 schestowitz-TR; so you know some of these "influencers" were feeding off a palm directly and indiurectly

12:56 schestowitz-TR; valve = former microsofter makes a gaming/drm company

12:56 schestowitz-TR; his new firefox video mentions "Linux" not even once

12:56 schestowitz-TR; and showers EDGE with some praises

12:56 schestowitz-TR; claims it has 20% of the market if I got this right (which is a lie)

12:56 schestowitz-TR; and says Gogle is "AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE WORSE" than Microsoft in the 1990s antitrust days

12:56 schestowitz-TR; in terms of market power

12:56 schestowitz-TR; which is a phony BS

12:57 Techrights-sec; apropos data centers, M$ is now attacking Lithuania and pressing to reduce

12:57 Techrights-sec; self-hosting in the public and private sectors: https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/1711331/minister-invites-microsoft-to-expand-in-lithuania

↺ https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/1711331/minister-invites-microsoft-to-expand-in-lithuania

12:58 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.lrt.lt | Minister invites Microsoft to expand in Lithuania - LRT

12:58 schestowitz-TR; an act of treason

12:59 Techrights-sec; basically, and it's coming from a minister so that charge would be highly

12:59 Techrights-sec; appicable


1 PM, June 6

13:00 schestowitz-TR; it is a very corrupt country; if they could pocket Munich, this is just dress rehearsal

13:00 schestowitz-TR; but this is a political problem

13:00 schestowitz-TR; from a cult, not a company

13:00 schestowitz-TR; but an arm of the "security state"

13:00 schestowitz-TR; putin would approve of course

13:00 schestowitz-TR; microsoft is swiss... cheese

13:08 Techrights-sec; Germany is highly corrupt, at least in regards to ICT

13:08 schestowitz-TR; ok, to twist this for better morale

13:08 schestowitz-TR; their aspirations in east europe may show thewy lose a lot of ground where the nations are richer

13:08 schestowitz-TR; in the same way FB tried to get into china and africa

13:08 schestowitz-TR; to hide th rapid loss of active users

13:08 schestowitz-TR; or gulag with all sorts of dying disservices

13:08 schestowitz-TR; inc. their clown efforts, which lose a ton of money

13:10 schestowitz-TR; germany pride and shitty press helps cover up what's happening

13:10 schestowitz-TR; inc. on lesser technical issues

13:10 schestowitz-TR; they self-gag

13:10 Techrights-sec; it's the coverups which enable it to continue

13:10 Techrights-sec; it's probably also related to their turning a blind eye to EPO corruption and

13:10 Techrights-sec; illegal activities

13:11 schestowitz-TR; we did a 20-part series on germany complicity

13:11 schestowitz-TR; and compared that to the immigration crisis

13:11 schestowitz-TR; and how the media would not play ball

13:11 schestowitz-TR; do you want the link?

13:12 Techrights-sec; I recall the contents, more or less, but I am wondering about the best way

13:12 Techrights-sec; to occasionally revisit open cases like that

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13:31 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> The real alternative to Clownflare is stuff like Varnish. Ankush Das names only clown computing/outsourcing -- a false dichotomy

13:31 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> These alternatives are also proprietary and harmful to the Web https://linuxhandbook.com/cloudflare-alternati

↺ https://linuxhandbook.com/cloudflare-alternati

13:32 schestowitz-TR; ves/

13:32 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://linuxhandbook.com/cloudflare-alternati/ )

↺ https://linuxhandbook.com/cloudflare-alternati/

13:35 Techrights-sec; yes

13:35 Techrights-sec; Varnish, and to certain extent Squid or Nginx can be a front end for heavily

13:35 Techrights-sec; visited sites. However, DDoS based on bandwidth can only be limited by the

13:35 Techrights-sec; network providers, AFAIK. DDoS based on targeting the backend of a service

13:35 Techrights-sec; needs a third approach.

13:38 schestowitz-TR; there's software and even self-hosted appliances (bsd/gnu/linux) that can help thwarts bad actors before they even reach the se

13:38 schestowitz-TR; rver, like a firewall

13:38 schestowitz-TR; then the isp is the bottleneck

13:38 schestowitz-TR; but the idea that we should therefore surrender to clownflare, a hostage operation, means the web is already

13:38 schestowitz-TR; not worth having

13:38 schestowitz-TR; because we tolerated back doors and botnets for far too long

13:38 schestowitz-TR; even clownflare is barely coping, it's overclassifying "threats"

13:38 schestowitz-TR; and in many cases demands you run programs because you are presumed a botnet

13:39 Techrights-sec; yes but they don't provide the censorship and surveillance that CloudFlare

13:39 Techrights-sec; enables

13:39 Techrights-sec; presumably accompanied by contributions in kind or monetary

13:39 Techrights-sec; Bill Gates (via M$) has made bad engineering not just acceptable but expected

13:39 Techrights-sec; across the globe

13:39 Techrights-sec; CloudFlare blocks a lot of posts in LinuxQuestions even when nothign

13:39 Techrights-sec; dangerous or even controverisal is provided in either the question or the

13:39 Techrights-sec; answer.

13:39 Techrights-sec; That's just one example.

13:39 schestowitz-TR; bill <3 back doors

13:40 Techrights-sec; yes.

13:42 schestowitz-TR; I think you are mistaking two things, but it's considered correct that Microsoft played ball for NSA around that time

13:56 schestowitz; I remember what you allude to. Also: "Microsoft will carry on pretending that it is ones patriotic duty to support and fund Microsoft, even using bailout money (i.e. the expense of taxpayers)." http://techrights.org/2009/04/10/microsoft-sails-overseas/

http://techrights.org/2009/04/10/microsoft-sails-overseas/

13:56 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft Finds Cost-Cutting Measures: Moves Overseas | Techrights

13:57 schestowitz-TR; (btw, lithuania has very good talent that can be employed for a laughabls salary.. same in Belarus)

13:58 Techrights-sec; the very presence of M$ products on the net is such a liability that it is

13:58 Techrights-sec; 100% incompatible with national defense in even the smallest way.


2 PM, June 6

14:00 schestowitz-TR; Stan Beer (ITwire) recently complained that they then CHARGE you money to fix their own security-failing aftermath

14:00 schestowitz-TR; you might be able to find it as it's about a month ol

14:00 schestowitz-TR; so cleaning up one's own mess is also a business model

14:00 schestowitz-TR; even without selling "up[grades"

14:00 schestowitz-TR; it harms most those who use that crap

14:00 schestowitz-TR; but at a national level that includes taxpayers and implicates personal data likle medical filkes

14:01 Techrights-sec; It's not even cleaning up the mess, just stirring the mess around -- for an

14:01 Techrights-sec; additional fee, but no progress is ever made towards actual cleanup

14:01 schestowitz-TR; some garages work like that

14:04 Techrights-sec; One very irritating aspect is that the public accepts all that.

14:07 schestowitz-TR; no

14:07 schestowitz-TR; the public is unware

14:07 schestowitz-TR; hence not part of the equation

14:07 schestowitz-TR; we can change that

14:07 schestowitz-TR; agitators will always try to just discredit those who are speaking about such matters

14:07 schestowitz-TR; in the way that they do

14:07 schestowitz-TR; because the very mode of thinking represents a threat to the status quo

14:07 schestowitz-TR; such as explaining to people that "encryption" and e2ee is not the same thing

14:07 schestowitz-TR; or clown computing is basically an illegal action, a data breach

14:07 schestowitz-TR; politicians do not seem to understand that or get paid to pretend not to understand the facts

14:08 Techrights-sec; yes, some of that is due also to severe corruption, such as in Germany

14:08 Techrights-sec; not to mention the US

14:12 schestowitz-TR; we need to "keep at it"

14:12 schestowitz-TR; we are doing OK

14:12 schestowitz-TR; the each person you spread the message to there will be some colleagues are are told the same

14:12 schestowitz-TR; to the point where lies cannot sustain themselves

14:12 schestowitz-TR; then they try to compensate for it by spending millions on PR and marketing

14:12 schestowitz-TR; and that's when you know you may be "winning"

14:12 schestowitz-TR; not losing

14:12 schestowitz-TR; because they see no choice other than making a shitstorm of noise

14:12 schestowitz-TR; to regain respect

14:12 schestowitz-TR; and that shitstorm itself can be self-discrediting

14:12 schestowitz-TR; LF, Moz, EFF, OSI, EPO...

14:12 schestowitz-TR; they have deep pockets

14:12 schestowitz-TR; they don't lay down and die

14:12 schestowitz-TR; if you ask actual people NOT shills

14:12 schestowitz-TR; i.e. not the random "username" in WWW

14:12 schestowitz-TR; you quicly see people dislike Microsoft very strongly

14:12 schestowitz-TR; and Microsoft knows it

14:12 schestowitz-TR; they try to perpetuate the idea of being reformed and having gained acceptance

14:12 schestowitz-TR; this is a faked non-existent sentiment

14:14 Techrights-sec; ue also to severe corruption, such as in Germany

14:14 Techrights-sec; not to mention the US

14:14 Techrights-sec; ack

14:14 Techrights-sec; yes but unlike in decades past, they are made to believe that they are alone

14:14 Techrights-sec; and unique in their trouble with M$. Microsofters have long lied to people

14:14 Techrights-sec; about their problems, saying to them that they are the only ones who have the

14:14 Techrights-sec; problem.

14:14 schestowitz-TR; also, spending millions on marketing ("Microsoft loves Linux") in areas where you operate at a LOSS, e.g. GitHub, is not someth

14:14 schestowitz-TR; ing you can carry on doing for many years

14:14 schestowitz-TR; you need to justify that by showing progress (gullible people or profits)

14:14 schestowitz-TR; GitHub, like ClownFlare, is in "honeymoon mode"

14:14 schestowitz-TR; like YouTube for the first 10 years

14:14 schestowitz-TR; when they actually PAID some creators

14:16 Techrights-sec; the ideology behing making everything suck is driven by MBAs mostly

14:16 schestowitz-TR; the "everything sucks" PR is not compelling and it's not free

14:16 schestowitz-TR; they recently did a tonload of articles about "Open Source" security crises

14:17 schestowitz-TR; helped by theor puppet, VMware, among others

14:17 schestowitz-TR; they convinced Zemlin

14:17 schestowitz-TR; but f* this guy :-)

14:17 schestowitz-TR; most people don't even take that prick seriously

14:17 schestowitz-TR; certainly not those who he CLAIMS to speak for

14:19 schestowitz-TR; "everything sucks" is a defence mechanism, proactive

14:19 schestowitz-TR; if I fail, it's OK

14:19 schestowitz-TR; if I don't fail, great

14:19 schestowitz-TR; you win either way

14:19 schestowitz-TR; even for making the worst decisions

14:19 schestowitz-TR; so the strategy is to make Linux seem like a seucity nightmare

14:19 schestowitz-TR; so that staying with Windows or moving to it seems "reasonable"

14:19 schestowitz-TR; they have spent a lot of money on these lies

14:19 schestowitz-TR; and now that so many things have been migrated to gnu/linux (from unix and

14:19 schestowitz-TR; from windows) they see no other way to stop it or slow it down

14:23 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Orange Pi 800 Offers the Raspberry Pi 400 Keyboard Some Fresh Competition http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165616#comment-33896

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165616#comment-33896

14:23 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Orange Pi 800 Keyboard PC - A Raspberry Pi 400 alternative powered by Rockchip RK3399 | Tux Machines

14:24 schestowitz-TR; this is catching on, forcing prices down

14:24 schestowitz-TR; the future will be OK for those who steer away from the unisys-in-our-lifetime, Microsoft

14:24 schestowitz-TR; Windows keeps losing share, reminds me to check the latest data...

14:30 schestowitz-TR; won't be part of the future: christome, gardiner, spamnil...

14:30 schestowitz-TR; they bailed out

14:30 schestowitz-TR; btw, some of spamnil's videos are still heavily click-bot'ed

14:30 schestowitz-TR; when you see 3,000 views with zero commands and one like you know it's that

14:30 schestowitz-TR; adjecent to videos with the same interaction but maybe 30 views

14:30 schestowitz-TR; and they both suck equally

14:30 schestowitz-TR; he's trying to market himself as "occassionally viral"

14:30 schestowitz-TR; by breaking google's ToS

14:30 schestowitz-TR; I'm not cruel enough to report him to Gulag

14:30 schestowitz-TR; wow, he has accelerated the bots

14:30 schestowitz-TR; sooner or later they'll catch him and take action, I suppose

14:32 Techrights-sec; perhaps but the cynic in me says there were be few repercussions for

14:32 Techrights-sec; even getting caught out at that kind of fraud.

14:32 Techrights-sec; s/were/will/

14:32 schestowitz-TR; can lose the entire channel

14:33 Techrights-sec; I would hope so, but the accountability is generally lacking. They are too

14:33 Techrights-sec; busy spending resources demonitizing legitimate channels.

14:35 schestowitz-TR; anyway, feels like kicking a man while he's down

14:35 schestowitz-TR; he used to be a big fan of BN

14:35 schestowitz-TR; I'm waiting for the EPO's meeting that can (probably won't) oust Campinos

14:35 schestowitz-TR; if the circus carries on, it gives us more to publish

14:36 Techrights-sec; Either with him or without him they are most likely to be a clown show

14:36 Techrights-sec; for a while. It will take determination above all, followed by a lot of

14:36 Techrights-sec; effort, to restore the dignitiy and functionality of the institution.

14:36 Techrights-sec; The first step there would be ousting him and changing the hiring procedures

14:36 Techrights-sec; to prevent getting more of the same in the next replacement.

14:39 schestowitz-TR; the national delegates are of the same religion and the social circles overlap

14:39 schestowitz-TR; that too is a challnge -- one that will need expanding upon

14:39 schestowitz-TR; the 50-part series showed many examples of that

14:39 schestowitz-TR; this is NOT an ideaological battle

14:40 schestowitz-TR; it ios a class battle

14:40 schestowitz-TR; these people with their peach-to-the-choir events are fronting for corporpoations and magnates

14:40 schestowitz-TR; they won't budge as long as they're well rewarded

14:40 schestowitz-TR; so we need to convince the workers, those are are not ringleaders in respectgive nations,

14:40 schestowitz-TR; to demand a return to sanity

14:40 schestowitz-TR; any showing of solidarity to the mission, or stated goals, helps change t he sentiments

14:40 schestowitz-TR; KEI was doing this in the area of access to medicine

14:40 schestowitz-TR; I've not heard or seen James Love for years

14:40 Techrights-sec; Correct, like many things these days which are also dressed up as something

14:40 Techrights-sec; else, it is a class battle.

14:44 schestowitz-TR; in the past 2-4 years they've dressed a lot of the "IP" stuff as "D&I" or "DEI"

14:44 schestowitz-TR; they even make up acronyms for these

14:44 schestowitz-TR; LF did the same

14:44 schestowitz-TR; but those are simple to refuse

14:44 schestowitz-TR; IBM has quit some of these pseudo-ethics PR charades

14:44 schestowitz-TR; I suppose seeing it was backfirting rather badly

14:44 schestowitz-TR; just this past sunday I showed how UPC bullshitters were trying to leverage "DUI"

14:44 schestowitz-TR; "DEI"

14:44 schestowitz-TR; with their "DUI" EWPO presiodent ;-)

14:44 schestowitz-TR; /s/refuse/refute/

14:44 schestowitz-TR; important typo

14:44 schestowitz-TR; if the next series is 10 parts, it can start 12 days before the meeting, 5 pasrts would be a week prior

14:44 schestowitz-TR; for maximal effect (short memory span)

14:44 schestowitz-TR; the reps keep asking for the recording

14:44 schestowitz-TR; to bring the topic back

14:45 schestowitz-TR; the f*ing topic back

14:45 schestowitz-TR; f* became a common joke in the EPo

14:45 schestowitz-TR; F* this F* that

14:45 Techrights-sec; ack

14:48 schestowitz-TR; the predictable spoiler is, the petition and the survey will bear results before writing to the Council

14:48 schestowitz-TR; showing 0% approval for Campinos

14:48 schestowitz-TR; you cannot just extend a term of a person if a survey taken by most staff shows this

14:48 schestowitz-TR; or else you too, the Council, get 0%

14:48 schestowitz-TR; (in 2020 the Council was already 0%, Campinos was 3% approval)

14:48 Techrights-sec; one can hope that is the case and that the survey is not just brushed under the

14:48 Techrights-sec; rug

14:49 schestowitz-TR; epi, all the media, maybe except one blogger in kluwer patent blog, will ignore it

14:49 schestowitz-TR; epi is a joke

14:49 schestowitz-TR; the whole systen is like a global force of occupation

14:49 schestowitz-TR; wipo and wto are like the hq foir the nrve sstem

14:49 schestowitz-TR; so we want to find and call out the cross-pollination and inter-orgs corruption

14:55 schestowitz-TR; yes!! windows down to 27%

14:55 schestowitz-TR; brb

14:55 Techrights-sec; ack


3 PM, June 6

15:02 schestowitz-TR; these figures are a pain to microsoft's salespeople and ISVs

15:02 schestowitz-TR; draft

15:05 Techrights-sec; ack

15:05 Techrights-sec; might mention the context: that of client or desktop; all other fields have

15:05 Techrights-sec; basically no trace of M$ except servers and there they are very weak, too

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15:07 schestowitz-TR; the moment you say Android people "get" that

15:07 schestowitz-TR; and these figures already factor in the insignificance of Microsoft in a lot of sectors

15:07 schestowitz-TR; maybe I could do another video about netcraft, but there would be a lot of repetition

15:07 schestowitz-TR; the idea is kill the cash cows

15:07 schestowitz-TR; and stop the bailouts

15:07 schestowitz-TR; see the rats jumping to other ships :/

15:07 schestowitz-TR; like 'Linux' Foundation

15:07 schestowitz-TR; I'm not sure if jperlow left, he may have been replaced by that "new guy"

15:07 schestowitz-TR; atm we have several orgs on the "run" from a PR POV

15:07 schestowitz-TR; but their stance or damage control strategy is to never publicly acknowledge it

15:08 schestowitz-TR; that campinos went insane because of techrights only egged me on

15:11 Techrights-sec; ack

15:11 Techrights-sec; too bad he was not locked up for any of his infractions or law-breaking

15:11 Techrights-sec; the idea is /to/ kill the cash cows

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15:15 schestowitz-TR; I've juust added some bits and link to wikipedia on "common carrier"

15:15 schestowitz-TR; as people underestimate the strategic importance of windows

15:15 Techrights-sec; ack

15:15 Techrights-sec; Common Carrier is very important but not related in anyway to that post

15:17 schestowitz-TR; bug #1 is being resolved, so now Mark Shuttleworth can shill WSL to help Windows retain or gain share

15:17 Techrights-sec; apparently

15:23 schestowitz-TR; published.

15:23 schestowitz-TR; in the coming years we'll need to compound and explain the point about "phones" and "clown" being bad

15:23 schestowitz-TR; no matter whose brand

15:23 schestowitz-TR; no need for digital hermits or "vegans"

15:23 schestowitz-TR; just saner society

15:23 schestowitz-TR; moderation

15:23 schestowitz-TR; social control meida seems to be waning everywhere

15:23 schestowitz-TR; interactions in mastodon became very few

15:23 schestowitz-TR; same thing that happened in diapora years ago

15:23 schestowitz-TR; you have people posting, but little happens beyond that

15:23 Techrights-sec; ack

15:23 schestowitz-TR; going tot ake a break now and think


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8 PM, June 6

20:37 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> so wordpress uploads all content to their CDN servers i2.wp.com even when self hosted https://dwaves.de/2022/06/06/so-wordpress-uploads-all-content-to-their-cdn-servers-i2-wp-com-even-when-self-hosted/ if true, quite a scandal

↺ https://dwaves.de/2022/06/06/so-wordpress-uploads-all-content-to-their-cdn-servers-i2-wp-com-even-when-self-hosted/

20:37 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- so wordpress uploads all content to their CDN servers i2.wp.com even when self hosted | dwaves.de


9 PM, June 6

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10 PM, June 6

22:14 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> UK COVID-19 Status: We've Almost Stopped Testing, Death Figures Are 17 Days Behind https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/06/covid19-death-figures-17-days-behind/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/06/covid19-death-figures-17-days-behind/

22:14 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive UK COVID-19 Status: Weve Almost Stopped Testing, Death Figures Are 17 Days Behind


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