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07:12 schestowitz-TR; today I start the links in the middle
07:12 schestowitz-TR; glad to see CN saying "social control media" in a headline ;-
07:12 schestowitz-TR; ;-)
07:13 schestowitz-TR; *SN
07:15 schestowitz-TR; reading the comments now, they seem decent
07:31 Techrights-sec; excellent
07:31 Techrights-sec; openwashing caught on too
07:32 schestowitz-TR; openwashing caught on too
07:32 Techrights-sec; yes though the act of openwashing does not get called out enough
07:33 schestowitz-TR; I joked in IRC about Microsoft using 1995 abandonware for openwashing in PROPRIETARY shithub
07:33 schestowitz-TR; as the media is dead noboddy in "the media" called them out on it
07:38 Techrights-sec; M$ dumps abandoned code for *tiny* *irrelevant* programs and calls it supporting
07:38 Techrights-sec; Open Source or as the microsofters write it, open-source
07:40 schestowitz-TR; thenthe MSFT-sponsored "media" claps claps cmaps
07:40 schestowitz-TR; looks lik Wall Street is having some reality checks
07:40 schestowitz-TR; Lyft and Uber included
07:40 schestowitz-TR; Many people with high-risk investment are going to lose a lot of money
07:47 Techrights-sec; Uber and Lyft are scams but only on the surface, the main purpose looks to
07:47 Techrights-sec; be to knock whatremains of the bottom out of the labor market. There are now
07:47 Techrights-sec; tons of shit jobs with shit pay and part of the reason for the increase in
07:47 Techrights-sec; both is because of Uber, Lyft, and the other gig-oriented phone apps.
07:47 Techrights-sec; So anyone putting money into gig-oriented companies like Uber and Lyft are not
07:47 Techrights-sec; investing but gambling and the house always wins and the house, in that case,
07:47 Techrights-sec; uses some of its take to further attack the very concept of employment
07:48 schestowitz-TR; ebay barely brings any sales anymore
07:48 schestowitz-TR; I think it might work for very few "large sellers" who know how to "game" the system
07:48 schestowitz-TR; maybe similar to gulagtube after some changes
07:49 Techrights-sec; There are services in town here, which I won't patronize, where not only
07:49 Techrights-sec; are the workers given zero-hour contracts but also have to hire both the
07:49 Techrights-sec; space they use for work and the tools and equipment needed for said work. :(
07:51 schestowitz-TR; rianne and I spoke about car businesses that merely rent their cars
07:51 schestowitz-TR; that was yesterday afternoon
07:51 schestowitz-TR; I told her this industry sickens me and even our gym started merely renting its
07:51 schestowitz-TR; equipmetn
07:51 schestowitz-TR; "as a service"
07:51 schestowitz-TR; plus the maintenance, that's the service...
07:51 schestowitz-TR; IIRC, based on the video I saw after the Ukraine war had erupted
07:51 schestowitz-TR; most arirlines do not even own their planees
07:51 schestowitz-TR; they rent them
07:52 Techrights-sec; youtube does seem to be either on the way out or else in line for some very
07:52 Techrights-sec; major changes, beyond the ad spamming which has been recently inflicted on it
07:52 Techrights-sec; yep that's the kind of problm mentioned above
07:52 Techrights-sec; 2014 or 2022?
07:52 Techrights-sec; THe air travel industry needs a complete makeover including scrapping of most
07:52 Techrights-sec; of the existing fleet
07:53 Techrights-sec; https://youtu.be/tKodtNFpzBA
07:53 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Invidious: https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=tKodtNFpzBA
07:53 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> invidious.osi.kr | The Machine that goes Ping - Invidious
07:57 schestowitz-TR; heh, some classic
07:57 schestowitz-TR; you could say it is virtual ownership
07:57 schestowitz-TR; now it is "as a service"
07:57 schestowitz-TR; "pay as you go"
07:57 schestowitz-TR; many now 'buy' their 'smart' 'phone' as a "plan" or "installman"
07:57 schestowitz-TR; spreading the fees
07:57 schestowitz-TR; so a lot of companies that "sell" things are basically links banks
07:57 schestowitz-TR; giving small loans
07:57 schestowitz-TR; ICBM included. for mainframes
07:57 schestowitz-TR; their clients are like bank clients
07:57 schestowitz-TR; paying monthly fees
07:57 schestowitz-TR; not sure what you meant by 2014 or 2022
08:04 Techrights-sec; the attack on Ukraine
08:04 Techrights-sec; the propaganda part ofthe war started considerably earlier but the
08:04 Techrights-sec; military moved in during 2014 and the EU sat on its hands
08:05 schestowitz-TR; For 4 years there was also a seating US Lukanshnko
08:25 schestowitz-TR; I've just noticed that in today's links, with "automated" part added, something in the format
08:25 schestowitz-TR; change a little
08:25 schestowitz-TR; and some sed 'regex' would not catch what it did before
08:25 schestowitz-TR; can the change be undone?
08:26 Techrights-sec; a <hr /> was added. It can be removed
08:28 schestowitz-TR; maybe tidy then changes the structure of things
08:28 schestowitz-TR; a little bit
08:28 schestowitz-TR; I've compared two files
08:28 schestowitz-TR; there are not empty <p></p<
08:28 schestowitz-TR; inside empty blockquote
08:28 schestowitz-TR; I actually handle these with perl
08:29 Techrights-sec; sed should never be used for HTML or any other XML / SGML derivative anyway
08:29 Techrights-sec; Ah. That is an attempt to clean up the automated links so that all items
08:29 Techrights-sec; have a similar structure regardless of whether they are empty or not.
08:29 Techrights-sec; It is part of tracking down missing descriptions
08:29 Techrights-sec; xmlstarlet is more appropriate than sed in this context
08:30 schestowitz-TR; OK, so it is that thing which led to the 'issue'
08:31 Techrights-sec; yes I think so
08:31 Techrights-sec; line breaks will also ruin sed scripts
08:31 Techrights-sec; xmlstarlet (for shell scripts) or else python or perl , etc
08:31 schestowitz-TR; it was just a dirty hack in perl to automated what I had done manually
08:33 Techrights-sec; perl but with XPath or another proper XML parser? Otherwise the brittlness
08:33 Techrights-sec; will be a pernennial problem.
08:38 Techrights-sec; Which script?
08:38 schestowitz-TR; timeline.sh
08:38 schestowitz-TR; lots of stale stuff in there too
08:38 schestowitz-TR; it's just a bunch of conversions plus other stuff on top
08:38 schestowitz-TR; preprocessng the files
08:42 Techrights-sec; That's got lots of sed
08:43 schestowitz-TR; it is a big pile of tchnical debt
08:43 schestowitz-TR; but not likely to ever be used by anyone but me
08:50 Techrights-sec; you can add a second line to process <blockquote><p> then
08:50 Techrights-sec; or else invest in xmlstarlet
08:53 schestowitz-TR; yeah, I just wondered what had changed
08:53 schestowitz-TR; a lot of the things there should really be commented out as they are
08:53 schestowitz-TR; for social control media and just add i/o overhead
08:53 schestowitz-TR; it's designed luke a thick layer of duct tape
08:53 schestowitz-TR; not even designed
08:58 Techrights-sec; "a week of coding will save an hour of planning"
08:58 Techrights-sec; try git, might need some tuning on your end
10:21 schestowitz-TR; bbiab exercise
10:21 Techrights-sec; ack
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11:46 schestowitz-TR; I've push some changes
11:46 schestowitz-TR; The latter change, I think, can save me about 30 secs per day and reduce chances of human
11:46 schestowitz-TR; error
11:46 schestowitz-TR; 30 secsx30 days = ~ 15 mins times 12 months = 3 hours
11:46 schestowitz-TR; I wish I had done this earlier
11:46 schestowitz-TR; I told rianne, the main question is, will this process lastg years?
11:46 schestowitz-TR; if I had known it would, I could save a ton of time
11:47 schestowitz-TR; next thurs have gulag "Meet", I will record it
11:47 Techrights-sec; it pays to periodically refactor and to aim one step ahead
11:47 Techrights-sec; checking git ...
11:51 schestowitz-TR; LOL, Ubuntu LoCo Council has begun deleting the spam or restored from backup
11:52 schestowitz-TR; or both
11:52 schestowitz-TR; today while shaving I watched some kde neon interviews with jriddell
11:52 schestowitz-TR; who was aacked by Shutjtleworth
11:52 schestowitz-TR; beccause I use his distro
11:52 schestowitz-TR; Ubuntu is "opportunist" feeding off Debian
11:52 schestowitz-TR; Daniel P sent me an email
11:52 schestowitz-TR; he will be speaking in a UN event this summer
12:04 Techrights-sec; ack
12:04 Techrights-sec; very good, do you know in advance the topic he will present to the UN?
12:05 schestowitz-TR; I would have to open thunderbird (massive strain on swap) to check
12:17 Techrights-sec; ack
12:38 schestowitz-TR; today I have some spare time in the sense that I can sense no urgency
12:38 schestowitz-TR; so I will try to tidy up some scripts
12:38 schestowitz-TR; I've also just checked to ensure that the 'expired' SSD, based on mtime,
12:38 schestowitz-TR; does not have something I fear losing
12:38 schestowitz-TR; in case it completely breaks down
12:38 schestowitz-TR; I did the same with 'ted' in 2020
12:38 schestowitz-TR; this one can be dedeemed by a new drive, but I want to get my money's worth off of it
12:38 Techrights-sec; ack
12:38 schestowitz-TR; it does a lot of i/o in video processing
12:38 schestowitz-TR; so maybe it's a good idea to separate that machine from sensitive data
12:39 schestowitz-TR; gemini or Planet Gemini has a new section in it
12:39 schestowitz-TR; I want to improve a few things here and there
12:39 schestowitz-TR; I use that a lot
12:39 schestowitz-TR; searching workpress for "gemini://" I get 522 past posts
12:39 schestowitz-TR; some of them have over a dozen links
12:39 schestowitz-TR; I'd have to run an sql query on wrdps.posts (not revisions) to know the total
12:40 Techrights-sec; what still needed is general support with a proper gemini client packaged
12:40 Techrights-sec; for debian
12:41 schestowitz-TR; Michel packaged one for Fedora (Lagrange), days ago he packaged something for Ubuntu and said
12:41 schestowitz-TR; he would do Debian next
12:41 schestowitz-TR; Give it time, give them user
12:41 schestowitz-TR; the users themselves would sooner or later either package that themselves or ask
12:41 schestowitz-TR; someone to
12:41 schestowitz-TR; Fedora is in a tough place
12:46 Techrights-sec; fedora is mostly IBM staff and the rest only those willing to toe the IBM
12:46 Techrights-sec; line
12:46 Techrights-sec; if I understand the Fedora situation. I don't follow it much
12:48 schestowitz-TR; Yes, me saying this rep;eatedly has not helped the project, but it is true and I'd like
12:48 schestowitz-TR; to see those same volunteers putting the same effort into Arch, Gentoo, Neon etc.
12:48 schestowitz-TR; Fedora is ahead of the surve in some regard, but I think it's mostly a toy
12:48 schestowitz-TR; for IBM to get bug reports before pushing stuff to their crown jewels
13:04 Techrights-sec; yes it looks like a development testbed for RHEL and any deviation from
13:04 Techrights-sec; that goal is squelched
13:08 schestowitz-TR; this longstanding perception has meant Fedora has not many forks or derivs
13:08 schestowitz-TR; but I think there are technical reasons for that too
13:08 schestowitz-TR; GNU/Linux is doing OK, I feel a lot more "at home" now with bleeding edge
13:08 schestowitz-TR; KDE
13:08 schestowitz-TR; but kde neon is not what I would use for a mission-critical system so to speak
13:08 schestowitz-TR; vonick is still my main machine, but the data on it I regard as transient
13:08 schestowitz-TR; even the text files I edit on there are edited over ssh
13:08 schestowitz-TR; I love this approach a great deal as it means that unless two machines are
13:08 schestowitz-TR; down at the same time your work is quite safe
13:08 schestowitz-TR; it's the master/slave approach, but we cannot say this anymore
13:08 schestowitz-TR; the main reason I bought bubi was, thunderbird is big and I don't trust a rotting
13:08 schestowitz-TR; drive with my mail boxes
13:08 schestowitz-TR; vlc on kde neon causes issues, including (I suspect) severe memory leaks
13:33 Techrights-sec; ack
13:56 Techrights-sec; I tried ordering the book "Digital Vegan" via a bookshop in the capitol
13:56 Techrights-sec; but they were not able to get ahold of it. The remaining local bookshop
13:56 Techrights-sec; doesn't take special orders any more so I am not sure of a domestec
13:56 Techrights-sec; source for the book. Ordering from the UK has some prohibitve costs
13:56 Techrights-sec; and bureaucracy attached.
14:02 schestowitz-TR; you can see the Gemini Planet now
14:02 schestowitz-TR; I am still working on the script
14:02 schestowitz-TR; I will try to de-duplicate qith uniq or similar
14:02 schestowitz-TR; I have decided to attempt clustering, not de-duplication
14:02 schestowitz-TR; I think I need imperative programming or OOP for this, with bash scripting it can be hard
14:02 schestowitz-TR; the problem is like this:
14:02 Techrights-sec; ack
14:02 Techrights-sec; looking
14:02 schestowitz-TR; file1 file2 file3
14:02 schestowitz-TR; each has
14:02 schestowitz-TR; # Date
14:02 schestowitz-TR; under each date a list:
14:02 schestowitz-TR; => x
14:02 schestowitz-TR; => y
14:02 schestowitz-TR; =>
14:03 schestowitz-TR; we want a new file, file x, that combined for each date all the items below it
14:03 schestowitz-TR; (a sort of planet of planets)
14:03 schestowitz-TR; one option is, create a file for reach data
14:03 schestowitz-TR; and then spill onto it
14:03 schestowitz-TR; then uniq -u
14:03 schestowitz-TR; then display x latest days
14:03 schestowitz-TR; I think I might do it like that
14:04 Techrights-sec; ok
14:04 Techrights-sec; I was just thinking but don't quite understand the goal so I won't intefere
14:08 schestowitz-TR; I think I can handle it, unless "looking" is no longer applicable?
14:08 schestowitz-TR; one upside is, we are left with a dated archive of a lot of geminispace
14:08 schestowitz-TR; one file per date
14:08 schestowitz-TR; that file can, later on,
14:08 schestowitz-TR; *FILES
14:08 schestowitz-TR; be presented in one page that is an index
14:08 schestowitz-TR; so planet gemini becames like
14:08 Techrights-sec; maybe 'offsite' in the path name?
14:08 schestowitz-TR; Gemini Archive
14:08 schestowitz-TR; come to think of it... let's start with an archive
14:08 schestowitz-TR; then, presenting days {present} to {x days ago}
14:08 schestowitz-TR; is super-simple
14:08 schestowitz-TR; and we get 2 in 1
14:08 schestowitz-TR; what directory to use to not confuse people (assuming wrongly it's techrights archive)?
14:08 schestowitz-TR; gemini:techrights.org/Geminispace-Archive ?
14:08 schestowitz-TR; like Wayback machine except without local copies but just links?
14:08 schestowitz-TR; ok, offsite
14:11 Techrights-sec; or 'outerspace' ?
14:12 schestowitz-TR; some of these are Techrights (we are in some planets) and some are gopher
14:13 Techrights-sec; or 'planets' ?
14:15 schestowitz-TR; to keep it simple it'll only update the file and grow the file for the current day or past 3 days
14:15 schestowitz-TR; then leave alone older ones
14:15 schestowitz-TR; maybe /planet/archive/ ?
14:15 Techrights-sec; or 'othercapsules' ?
14:15 schestowitz-TR; yes, I will do that
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14:49 Techrights-sec; sed can kind of do that so can AWK
14:49 Techrights-sec; sed -n -e '/spat/,/e[pat/p'
14:49 Techrights-sec; sed -n -e '/spat/,/epat/p'
14:49 Techrights-sec; awk '/spat/,/epat/'
14:49 Techrights-sec; a blank line is /^$/
14:50 schestowitz-TR; can you think of trick to step grep -A NUM until some pattern in a line is found, e.g. a blank line?
14:50 schestowitz-TR; I'm close to doing all this with a one-liner of bash
14:50 schestowitz-TR; need to "delimit" the output before the prior date starts
14:50 schestowitz-TR; I think I know a trick
14:50 schestowitz-TR; do the same for prior day, then subtract the output
14:50 schestowitz-TR; thanks, getting very close now
15:18 Techrights-sec; ack
15:19 schestowitz-TR; done
15:19 schestowitz-TR; testing now
15:19 schestowitz-TR; it is generating and regenrating today's and yesterday's
15:19 schestowitz-TR; as some items can "arrive" a day late
15:19 schestowitz-TR; I will make an index page for the archive
15:32 Techrights-sec; ack
15:34 Techrights-sec; Chris Trottier pointed out on mastodon that
15:34 Techrights-sec; 1. Microsoft paid SCO $14 million in Unix Licenses
15:34 Techrights-sec; 2. SCO debtors had to pay IBM $14,250,000
15:39 schestowitz-TR; Who is this guy and what are the connections other than the similarity in sums so many years apart?
15:39 schestowitz-TR; could be someone saw similar numbers and connected the numbers, like people connecting triange, saucers,
15:39 schestowitz-TR; and other random symbols
15:39 schestowitz-TR; or some creases on the trousers of Lady Obama
15:40 Techrights-sec; no clue
15:40 Techrights-sec; there's no corresponding blog post or article
15:40 Techrights-sec; could be
15:40 Techrights-sec; but the creases have a shape
15:42 schestowitz-TR; yes, but then that becomes an Obama strawman about First Lady literally donning a penis
15:42 schestowitz-TR; and distracts from all sorts of real Obama issues
15:42 schestowitz-TR; in the case of SCO, the payments from Microsoft are not news
15:42 schestowitz-TR; Bruce Pernes wrote about it in Linux.com
15:42 schestowitz-TR; before the site became a shit dump
15:43 Techrights-sec; https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/30/sco_tsg_vs_ibm_settlement/
15:43 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.com | SCO v. IBM settlement deal is done, but zombie case shuffles on elsewhere The Register
15:48 Techrights-sec; https://www.heise.de/news/SCO-vs-Linux-IBM-soll-14-25-Millionen-US-Dollar-zahlen-6179831.html
15:48 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.heise.de | SCO vs. Linux: IBM soll 14,25 Millionen US-Dollar zahlen | heise online
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16:04 Techrights-sec; not finding anything recent on SCO
16:04 schestowitz-TR; it's like novell, just some history lesson
16:04 schestowitz-TR; (of course some try to change history and present distortion versions of it)
16:04 schestowitz-TR; like OSI deleting the halloween documents from tis site and taking microsoft bribes
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16:17 Techrights-sec; not finding anything recent on SCO
16:17 Techrights-sec; yes in the quiet interval, the revisionists can push their agenda more easily
16:17 Techrights-sec; ack
16:17 Techrights-sec; " my fellow boardmembers at the Open Source Initiative made me move this off the OSI site"
16:17 Techrights-sec; http://www.catb.org/~esr/not-the-osi/halloween-rant.html
16:17 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.catb.org | The Halloween Documents: An Appreciation
16:21 schestowitz-TR; boardmembers - whose?
16:21 schestowitz-TR; that's why I don't like such orgs
16:21 schestowitz-TR; later they also banned him
16:21 schestowitz-TR; pay money, become boardmember/s, oust the org from the guy inside out
16:21 schestowitz-TR; like in eff
16:21 schestowitz-TR; except in eff one died on his own
16:21 schestowitz-TR; and his friend didn't enjoy protection anymore
16:21 schestowitz-TR; at the end the money calls the shots
16:21 schestowitz-TR; btw, rianne left bargain-hunting 10 mins ago
16:21 schestowitz-TR; before she left she told me almost 20k workers in groceries will now be redundant
16:21 schestowitz-TR; as mccools, where we find the most discounted goods, is going bust :(
16:21 schestowitz-TR; that can impact our food bill
16:21 Techrights-sec; pay to play
16:21 Techrights-sec; they set up the organization for such a take over, either naively or
16:21 Techrights-sec; intentionally
16:21 Techrights-sec; "redundant" == fired for increased short term profit, long term loss
16:23 schestowitz-TR; no, the whole company goes into "administration"
16:23 schestowitz-TR; britishism for going under
16:23 schestowitz-TR; there is no rescue plan
16:23 schestowitz-TR; we can expect all the stores to shut down
16:23 schestowitz-TR; with some of our friends who sell us food
16:23 schestowitz-TR; this is a big blow, the other stores are further away and don't stock same discount levels
16:23 schestowitz-TR; in mccolls we got used to finding milk or bread for just 10p given the right times
16:23 schestowitz-TR; paying full price for food when prices soar is a bad thing
16:24 Techrights-sec; well that sucks then
16:24 Techrights-sec; the gradual creation of food deserts in the city
16:25 schestowitz-TR; this changes many calculations
16:25 schestowitz-TR; inc. quitting the company
16:25 schestowitz-TR; if we no longer go to the gym and if we cannot find good discounts in many stores in town, we can
16:25 schestowitz-TR; move further away from the city
16:26 schestowitz-TR; at the moment home prices are a bubble
16:26 schestowitz-TR; bad time to buy one
16:35 schestowitz-TR; quick thoughts
16:35 schestowitz-TR; I have 3 tests left to do here
16:35 schestowitz-TR; re fb, cnetralised comms was always easier, now it's innovation to move back to it?
16:35 schestowitz-TR; news/media very slow today, rianne barely found anything
16:35 schestowitz-TR; re tests, i added a new page called latest
16:35 schestowitz-TR; it's a combined page for all capsules for today and yesterday
16:35 schestowitz-TR; as expected, as a whole it takes longer than initially expected, mostly because I add more things that I
16:35 schestowitz-TR; had intended at first
16:35 schestowitz-TR; gemini will soon be about 10% of our Daily Links
16:35 Techrights-sec; every day is a slow news day in recent years
16:36 Techrights-sec; amfora and elpa-elpher are both in Debian now!!
16:37 Techrights-sec; Devuan 5 (daedalus)
16:37 schestowitz-TR; good news.
16:37 schestowitz-TR; debian 10, 11, or both? I can do a video where I show 'live' how to add it
16:37 schestowitz-TR; and to say it's aded to debian, hence sparkylinux etc.
16:37 schestowitz-TR; let me apt search on 10 and 11
16:38 Techrights-sec; elpa-elpher is in Raspberry Pi OS so far
16:38 Techrights-sec; ack
16:44 schestowitz-TR; I have just chedked. bullseye has elpher and 10 (buster) had none
16:44 schestowitz-TR; so maybe it's a devuan thing
16:44 schestowitz-TR; or maybe some other explanation
16:52 Techrights-sec; ack
16:52 Techrights-sec; it's based on Bookworm (debian 12)
16:52 schestowitz-TR; deadalus based on deadian, as MinceR might say
16:55 Techrights-sec; yes it is a cleaned up version of debian but the question is whether
16:55 Techrights-sec; systemd can metastacize faster than dvuan can excise it
16:55 Techrights-sec; maybe if more debian derivatives join in ...
16:58 Techrights-sec; https://www.devuan.org/os/devuan-distros
16:58 Techrights-sec; https://distrowatch.com/search.php?basedon=Devuan#simple
16:58 Techrights-sec; that second link does not give accurate results
16:58 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.devuan.org | Devuan-Based Distributions | Devuan GNU+Linux Free Operating System
16:58 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.
17:01 schestowitz; gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/index.gmi
17:01 schestowitz; gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/
17:02 schestowitz; if this looks OK to you, I shall push to git.
17:02 schestowitz-TR; forgot the most important page:
17:02 schestowitz-TR; gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/latest
17:04 schestowitz-TR; found and fixed another bug just now, wrong date was shown in a title
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17:10 Techrights-sec; ack
17:10 Techrights-sec; what's with all the cyrillic?
17:11 schestowitz-TR; CAPCOM syndicates at least one russian capsule
17:16 schestowitz-TR; UK COVID-19 Deaths 'Backlog' http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/05/06/uk-deaths-covid-19-in-april/
17:16 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive UK COVID-19 Deaths Backlog
17:16 schestowitz-TR; OTA (will mention buster/boomwork/bullseye)
17:16 schestowitz-TR; *bookworm
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18:06 schestowitz-TR; draft
18:21 Techrights-sec; ack
18:21 Techrights-sec; the link to distrowatch is, as mentioned above, wrong
18:21 schestowitz-TR; what to use instead?
18:22 Techrights-sec; the one from devuan above
18:22 schestowitz-TR; the link is there in the post as well
18:24 Techrights-sec; yes but the distrowatch one should be removed since it is wrong
18:25 schestowitz-TR; I will put wikipedia there instead
18:25 Techrights-sec; great
18:28 Techrights-sec; the "based on" link ought to go to wikipedia;
18:28 Techrights-sec; the "impact many" ought to be the https://www.devuan.org/os/devuan-distros
18:28 Techrights-sec; link
18:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.devuan.org | Devuan-Based Distributions | Devuan GNU+Linux Free Operating System
20:01 Techrights-sec; http://web.archive.org/web/20021215191808/opensource.org/halloween/halloween1.php
20:01 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | Open Source Initiative OSI - Doc1:Halloween Documents
20:32 schestowitz-TR; Social control media is bad for you https://www.bath.ac.uk/announcements/social-media-break-improves-mental-health-new-study/
20:32 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.bath.ac.uk | Social media break improves mental health new study
20:32 SomeH4x0r; is IRC social control media?
20:33 SomeH4x0r; I have nothing to do irl
20:33 SomeH4x0r; idk if I'm autistic or something, but I think my life is fucked up
20:33 schestowitz-TR; being in ukraine at the moment is hard
20:33 SomeH4x0r; it is not about Ukraine
20:33 schestowitz-TR; IRC predates by 15 years what media dubbed "social"
20:33 SomeH4x0r; the war is not relevant for this
20:34 schestowitz-TR; you said your parents are abusive towards you
20:34 schestowitz-TR; but that's a personal thing
20:35 SomeH4x0r; there is no proper way to raise a child, I think
20:35 SomeH4x0r; I "live" online. No irl friends, reality being annoyance.
20:36 SomeH4x0r; I used to escape the reality in MMO games, though then I realized they are evil, and quit them
20:38 schestowitz-TR; they are addictive
20:38 schestowitz-TR; and they are controlled by a corporation
20:38 schestowitz-TR; governments are too
20:38 schestowitz-TR; but not one corporation
20:39 SomeH4x0r; yes, so I quit
20:41 schestowitz-TR; good, it's not easy
20:41 schestowitz-TR; all of these things designed to addict are better avoided to begin with
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