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beginning of new day, December 4

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1 AM, December 4

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2 AM, December 4

02:37 Techrightssec; Sometime soon we could consider moving the DNS entry for tuxmachines.org to

02:37 Techrightssec; point to the new site and have a new name, old.tuxmachines.org or similar, to

02:37 Techrightssec; point to the old site and then monitor the http errors (e.g. 404) to see what

02:37 Techrightssec; if anything still needs to be ported over.


3 AM, December 4

03:03 schestowitz-TR; yes, tuxmachines needs further work, for sure...

03:03 schestowitz-TR; I need to think what DNS can do to help, without breaking any existing links

03:03 schestowitz-TR; as that would render a lot of "historic" articles, even distro reviews, orphaned or deranked

03:03 schestowitz-TR; distrowatch still links to many

03:03 schestowitz-TR; regarding "digital skills"

03:03 schestowitz-TR; it's a buzzwords pair of sorts

03:03 schestowitz-TR; like "IT"

03:03 schestowitz-TR; that typically accompanies BS talk

03:03 schestowitz-TR; and things like, "bank won't give you your balance, DOWNLOAD THE APP... Oh, and get a spyphone too"

03:42 schestowitz-TR; phone ownership = consumerism, sales

03:42 schestowitz-TR; library, books = "piracy", poverty (interfering with monopolies' way of controlling knowledge)

03:53 Techrightssec; Any ideas about how to ensure that existing links are not broken?

03:53 Techrightssec; I would guess that looking at the logs for items which are not redirected

03:53 Techrightssec; or links to the new site which have no corresponding document would be one

03:53 Techrightssec; way. If there are any and if there is a pattern then that could be addressed.

03:53 Techrightssec; With the stumbling that WordPress has been doing lately, I would suggest tht

03:53 Techrightssec; the move be prioritized.

03:53 Techrightssec; Right now four+ systems are maintained. Lowering that to three+ would be

03:53 Techrightssec; helpful, I think.

03:55 schestowitz-TR; redirections are not advisable

03:55 schestowitz-TR; for several reasons

03:55 schestowitz-TR; this is what makes things a bit trickier

03:55 schestowitz-TR; also, in drupal a page is not just a single object, there can be subpages and more

03:57 Techrightssec; Ok. Then, without redirections, we can check what remains on the old site.

03:57 Techrightssec; I don't think that it's feasible to maintain the old site indefinitely. That's

03:57 Techrightssec; way too much overhead.

03:58 schestowitz-TR; a CMS like that is in some sense the mistake

03:58 schestowitz-TR; lotsof things that over the course of 20 years become hard to keep going


4 AM, December 4

04:03 Techrightssec; Anwyay, would it be possible to have old.tuxmachines.org point to 23.161.112.115

04:03 Techrightssec; for now? That would allow some additional options.

04:03 Techrightssec; For many use-cases SQLite is more than enough. I have been seeing a lot of

04:03 Techrightssec; blog posts lately, relatively speaking, about people moving from a CMS to

04:03 Techrightssec; something smaller and often based on a set of homemade scripts (e.g. Python with

04:03 Techrightssec; Flask) and SQLite.

04:04 schestowitz-TR; going to add to dns in a few mins

04:04 schestowitz-TR; rianne thinks the following was inspired by us

04:04 schestowitz-TR; as it's very very very similar and came just 12 or so hours after going public:

04:04 schestowitz; http://www.mardy.it/blog/2022/12/leaving-canonical-again.html

↺ http://www.mardy.it/blog/2022/12/leaving-canonical-again.html

04:04 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.mardy.it | Leaving Canonical, again | Mardy

04:09 Techrightssec; ack

04:12 schestowitz-TR; added

04:13 Techrightssec; thanks!

04:39 Techrightssec; Just a glance at the old logs suggest that there is heavy bot traffic

04:53 Techrightssec; The main page of the legacy site could use a more clear pointer or even

04:53 Techrightssec; redirection to the new site: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node

04:53 Techrightssec; The "Quick Roundup" points to articles from the summer rather than to

04:53 Techrightssec; news.tuxmachines.org

04:53 Techrightssec; Perhaps the 'gallery' would be the easiest to move next.

04:53 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines | Do you waddle the waddle?

04:55 schestowitz-TR; will be away from home some of the day

04:55 schestowitz-TR; gallery can be move, it uses a DB from the container of the DBs


6 AM, December 4

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10 AM, December 4

10:11 Techrightssec; Can the gallery be converted to static HTML and preserved that way?

10:11 Techrightssec; Restarted httpd and mysqld on tm-old

10:11 Techrightssec; mysqld was hogging the CPU; however that has not helped and the load is back

10:11 Techrightssec; immediatelky

10:11 Techrightssec; HTTP traffic is not heavy though

10:13 schestowitz-TR; gallery has stuff like zoom

10:13 schestowitz-TR; but since nothing is being added I guess it is possible to experiment with DB-less

10:13 schestowitz-TR; the past 2 days tm-old had that pattern we run the script for

10:13 schestowitz-TR; it is running at my end, so no need for manual intervention

10:55 Techrightssec; ack

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11 AM, December 4

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11:52 schestowitz-TR; i installed gallry1, 2 and 3 in my personal site

11:52 schestowitz-TR; it's not so bad, the software is quite reliable

11:52 schestowitz-TR; I had to write some hacks or worksrounds for newer php versions

11:53 Techrightssec; Should the whole Gallery set up be moved to the new machine or would a

11:53 Techrightssec; static mirror be adequate?

11:55 schestowitz-TR; linking is done to images rather than pages sometimes

11:55 schestowitz-TR; the db stays as is

11:55 schestowitz-TR; the server needs php (not sure range of compat) and that's abbout it

11:55 schestowitz-TR; imagemagick and such would not be needed if we upload nothing further to process

11:56 Techrightssec; Imagemagick is used in TM for images accompanying new posts on tm-new.


noon, December 4

12:00 schestowitz-TR; yes, i had that in mind, but the good news is, no need for heavy db to be installed

12:00 schestowitz-TR; php connected to one on the local network

12:00 schestowitz-TR; but that might still meean it needs db-client, not db-server (host)

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1 PM, December 4

13:03 Techrightssec; ack

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13:27 schestowitz-TR; 30mins

13:27 Techrightssec; ack

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13:58 schestowitz-TR; whose host?

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2 PM, December 4

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14:57 Techrightssec; ack


3 PM, December 4

15:12 schestowitz-TR; did you see the blog post about hoping blogging+rss would gain rather than mastodon?

15:12 schestowitz-TR; i think gruber wrote it

15:12 schestowitz-TR; kotke is also back (blogging, not tweet shit)

15:12 schestowitz-TR; after a long break

15:12 schestowitz-TR; iirc, david winer was the first "blogger" with rss

15:21 Techrightssec; yes, it was good

15:21 Techrightssec; afaik it is the links for yesterday or today

15:21 Techrightssec; excellent

15:21 Techrightssec; There was a blogger from the middle East who wrote about 10 years ago about

15:21 Techrightssec; the sad state of blogging; He had just gotten released from prison at the

15:21 Techrightssec; height of social control media but had gone in a the (first) peak of blogs.

15:21 Techrightssec; THe contrast before and after his time in jail was tremendous and shocking.

15:21 Techrightssec; Now the world has the chance to restore a little dignity and self-determination

15:21 Techrightssec; to written communication by blogging. Since most CMSs have RSS or Atom capabilities, that is a further advantage.

15:24 schestowitz-TR; a theory of mine

15:24 schestowitz-TR; which is based on or inspired by thigns are read

15:24 schestowitz-TR; is that the ad industry, and the biggest spy/advertiser (google)

15:24 schestowitz-TR; worked to slowly kill rss without making it seem so

15:24 schestowitz-TR; e.g. remove rss from browser

15:24 schestowitz-TR; making it look scary

15:24 schestowitz-TR; buy feedburner

15:24 schestowitz-TR; than burn it

15:24 schestowitz-TR; offer google reader to kill similar competition likle feedlounge ()I was beta tester)

15:24 schestowitz-TR; oerating at a LOSS

15:24 schestowitz-TR; then shutting down google reader

15:24 schestowitz-TR; all seems like irrational behaviour

15:24 schestowitz-TR; than hiding rss from some google page like GulgaNoise

15:24 schestowitz-TR; and blogs too

15:24 schestowitz-TR; making those seem like they're no longer applicable

15:24 schestowitz-TR; for advertisers (Google also) it helps

15:24 schestowitz-TR; because of JS etc.

15:25 schestowitz-TR; also, experiments with in-rss ads failed

15:25 schestowitz-TR; those were done a lot around 2005

15:25 schestowitz-TR; like alex kind (wordpresS)

15:25 schestowitz-TR; trying to monetise their readers over rss

15:25 schestowitz-TR; people who would not open actual 'web' pages (scripts)

15:30 Techrightssec; RSS is not filterable by Google, nor is it easy to interject advertising

15:30 Techrightssec; and tracking like with the various "frameworks". Those two aspects are *so*

15:30 Techrightssec; central to Google's activities, that they have forced a rewriting of the HTTP

15:30 Techrightssec; spec to accomodate both as well as javascript-based ad auctions during initial

15:30 Techrightssec; loading of the pages prior to rendering. RSS and Atom are good as they are

15:30 Techrightssec; and do not need further extension, if they support Dublin Core. The only

15:30 Techrightssec; area work is needed is in the modules supporing both.


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10 PM, December 4

22:36 schestowitz-TR; New Paper: Autopsy-based Histopathological Characterization of Myocarditis After Anti-SARS-CoV-2-Vaccination https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/12/04/autopsy-study-germany/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/12/04/autopsy-study-germany/

22:36 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive New Paper: Autopsy-based Histopathological Characterization of Myocarditis After Anti-SARS-CoV-2-Vaccination

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11 PM, December 4

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23:48 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.pussthecat.org/festinalenteaaa/status/1599505410767360000#m

↺ https://nitter.pussthecat.org/festinalenteaaa/status/1599505410767360000#m

23:48 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.pussthecat.org | Kylie (@festinalenteaaa): "The lancet has lost almost all scientific credibility over recent years man. Its funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates foundation. http://techrights.org/2011/01/10/lancet-gates-exxon-mobil/" | Nitter | PussTheCat.org

http://techrights.org/2011/01/10/lancet-gates-exxon-mobil/"


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