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01:26 schestowitz-TR; 24 hours later the copying of ~gemini still goes on

01:26 schestowitz-TR; when it's done I'll do some more tests, then clone the system again (to have a spare)

01:26 schestowitz-TR; because sealing the device and figuring out how to handle ipfs

01:26 schestowitz-TR; but I just want gemini resotred fully first (not an older clone)

01:33 schestowitz-TR; For the sixth time in 2 days, 'Linux Today' posts spammy "plugs" as "news". http://techrights.org/2022/08/01/linux-today-zdnet/

01:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Weird Editorial Choices in Linux Today These Past Few Hours (Updatedx4) | Techrights

02:02 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Sam Varghese no longer covers GNU/Linux or rebuts Microsoft lies. It's shallow fluff such as https://itwire.com/mobility/oppo-releases-two-models-of-a77-5g-device-in-australia.html

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02:05 schestowitz-TR; 02:05] <schestowitz> itwire.com

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02:15 schestowitz; > Subject: Recusing myself from Outreachy applicant selection decisions,

02:15 schestowitz; > internships funding

02:15 schestowitz; > Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:37:46 +0200

02:15 schestowitz; > Hey all,

02:15 schestowitz; > As of today, the person I'm involved with, Pauline Pommeret, is applying

02:15 schestowitz; > Outreachy internship in Debian (on the GPG cleanroom environment project - I

02:15 schestowitz; > don't see her mail on the list archive yet, so something must have gone

02:15 schestowitz; > but it should arrive soon enough).

02:15 schestowitz; > To avoid an obvious conflict of interest, I am recusing myself for any

02:15 schestowitz; > decisions regarding applicant selections for this round.

02:15 schestowitz; > I am of course still happy to serve as a liaison with the Outreachy program

02:16 schestowitz; > administrators, and to forward our applicants to them for general

02:16 schestowitz; > funding when

02:16 schestowitz; > selected, if the money allocated by Debian runs out.

02:16 schestowitz; > This would especially be relevant, in my opinion, to RTC projects, as

02:16 schestowitz; > I'm not

02:16 schestowitz; > sure at all that we should fund them from Debian money directly. Karen

02:16 schestowitz; > Sandler

02:16 schestowitz; > also told me that one of the Outreachy sponsors was interested in funding

02:16 schestowitz; > interns on Reproducible Builds. All in all, we should be able to have two or

02:16 schestowitz; > three internship slots with Debian only disbursing one.

02:16 schestowitz; > I'll stay on the outreach@d.o alias for now, but let me know if you need

02:16 schestowitz; > ranking applicants, and I'll ask DSA to remove me so you can discuss at

02:16 schestowitz; > Cheers,

02:16 schestowitz; > -- Nicolas Dandrimont

04:04 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> July COVID-19 Hospitalisation Statistics Compared: 3,008 in 2020, 18,513 in 2021, 47,018 in 2022 (This Past Month 16 Times More Than First Year of Coronavirus Breakout) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/covid19-hospitalisation-statistics/

04:04 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive July COVID-19 Hospitalisation Statistics Compared: 3,008 in 2020, 18,513 in 2021, 47,018 in 2022 (This Past Month 16 Times More Than First Year of Coronavirus Breakout)

04:26 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> United Kingdom (England, Scotland, Wales, NI) COVID-19 Hospitalisation Rates Compared: July 2022 Eleven Times Worse Than July 2020 https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/indifference-to-covid/

04:26 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive United Kingdom (England, Scotland, Wales, NI) COVID-19 Hospitalisation Rates Compared: July 2022 Eleven Times Worse Than July 2020

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05:05 schestowitz-TR; excellent, thanks

05:05 schestowitz-TR; gemini is almost fully restored for TR, but rsync still going

05:05 Techrights-sec; tm-generate-feed is fixed, it was quick to find the problem

05:05 Techrights-sec; please give it a test

05:05 Techrights-sec; tm-generate-feed is fixed, it was quick to find the problem

05:05 Techrights-sec; please give it a test

05:07 schestowitz; Record added

05:07 schestowitz; Can't locate object method "disconect" via package "DBI::db" at /usr/local/bin/tm-generate-feed.pl line 321.

05:07 schestowitz; Issuing rollback() due to DESTROY without explicit disconnect() of DBD::SQLite::db handle dbname=/var/www/tuxmachines.org/db/tm-static-site-generator.sqlite3 at /usr/local/bin/tm-generate-feed.pl line 321.

05:07 schestowitz; Can't locate object method "disconect" via package "DBI::db" at /usr/local/bin/tm-generate-feed.pl line 321.

05:08 Techrights-sec; wait, I have to copy the file :/

05:08 Techrights-sec; ok, for some reason the git clone is not getting updated automatically

05:08 Techrights-sec; by the update script

05:08 Techrights-sec; testing on site ...

05:17 Techrights-sec; yes, there are some other weirdnesses, the script works locally but not

05:17 Techrights-sec; on tm-new

05:17 Techrights-sec; checking ...

05:29 schestowitz-TR; planet gemini fully restored and tested now

05:29 schestowitz-TR; the main thing I 'lost' was a couple of lines in crontabs

05:29 schestowitz-TR; which I can bring back from memory

05:29 schestowitz-TR; and some days' gemini archives

05:29 schestowitz-TR; OS-wise I think the only changes we made since the last cloning was adding throttling scripts and sudoers

05:29 schestowitz-TR; I'll have to go through a list of items to restore, which I wrote down

05:29 schestowitz-TR; BTW, is an SD card becomes unbootable

05:29 schestowitz-TR; any chance of or reason to try to rewrite things to it afresh?

05:29 schestowitz-TR; like using the "bad" card as a clone for the USB system?

05:29 schestowitz-TR; just tested the 16GB cars, the one I got with the pi

05:29 schestowitz-TR; root cannot be mounted

05:29 schestowitz-TR; only boot and settings

05:29 schestowitz-TR; 3 partitions

05:29 schestowitz-TR; that's the debian 10 card

05:29 schestowitz-TR; nothing in the 32GB one can even be mounted afaict

05:30 schestowitz-TR; so I assume card damage

05:30 schestowitz-TR; I tried it on two laptop while under time pressure due to long outage and other issues

05:30 schestowitz-TR; rianne's clone card seems to work perectly OK, as it ought to

05:30 schestowitz-TR; but I'd not trust this latest 32GB one

05:30 schestowitz-TR; San Disk, but lasted barely 7 months

05:37 Techrights-sec; seems solved now, Git is still confusing and the old files were still present

05:37 Techrights-sec; and a lot of small changes have been pushed with now, finally, show up

05:37 Techrights-sec; in the clone

05:37 Techrights-sec; IPFS is very write intensive, that might be a factor in the short lives of

05:37 Techrights-sec; the microSD cards

05:40 schestowitz-TR; btw, are gemini permissions suffient for gemserv to send the gmi files?

05:40 schestowitz-TR; I cannot get to any of them over gemini://

05:40 schestowitz-TR; but I assume this is far from finalised

05:40 schestowitz-TR; I'll go get rest soon, been up all night

05:44 schestowitz-TR; https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/covid19-hospitalisation-statistics/

05:44 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Resolving timed out after 10518 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/covid19-hospitalisation-statistics/ )

05:44 schestowitz-TR; at bottom, a new reference from the US gov.

05:45 schestowitz-TR; on how getting infected messes up the brain

05:45 schestowitz-TR; permanently, based on a study

05:45 schestowitz-TR; published july 2020

05:46 schestowitz-TR; sorry, 2022

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07:42 Techrights-sec; double checked the update scripts, they seem to work

08:01 schestowitz-TR; gemini rsync done

08:01 schestowitz-TR; now copying in the missing bulletins and irc log files (text, html, gmi)

08:01 schestowitz-TR; will later test as a sanity

08:01 schestowitz-TR; check.

08:01 schestowitz-TR; I am going to reboot this machine shortly, I want to also be sure the SD slot works OK

08:01 schestowitz-TR; I did a lot of work on it during the outage, worried I might have damaged something

08:01 schestowitz-TR; though judging by the state of the card, it's just the card itself having a defect

08:01 schestowitz-TR; I'll try to boot rianne's clone on it just to be sure

08:01 schestowitz-TR; then back to USB

08:01 schestowitz-TR; would you suggest cloning from USB to USB or USB to sd card? I'd have to buy a spare (still undecided on how to do IPFS)

09:07 schestowitz-TR; UDPATE: 9am - so rianne's microsd backup is fine, the sd slot works fine, it boots nicely and fast on

09:07 schestowitz-TR; my pi. I'll now finalise things here, still undecided on ipfs, then make a newer clone of rianne's

09:07 schestowitz-TR; machine to that same card. She uses that machine for NOC a lot.

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09:56 schestowitz-TR; all set up and tidied up

09:56 schestowitz-TR; took me a while to recall that in tcp logger I needed to set it to eth0

09:56 schestowitz-TR; that's all set in homedirs

09:56 schestowitz-TR; but you seE? not OS files...

09:56 schestowitz-TR; when done, I'll clone the OS again

09:56 schestowitz-TR; fixed now

09:56 schestowitz-TR; last time (first outage 2 monmths ago)

09:56 schestowitz-TR; I grepped for wlan0

09:56 schestowitz-TR; I'll do it again and push to git in case it's not done already

09:56 schestowitz-TR; seems I already pushed those changes, commented out wlan and explained when to change that over

10:11 Techrights-sec; I'm still wondering how to manage the system customizations for tm-new

10:11 Techrights-sec; a Git repository would lose the file permissions and such settings

10:11 Techrights-sec; but simply copying to a spare directory hierarchy and tar'ing that

10:11 Techrights-sec; would not track changes

10:14 schestowitz-TR; I've restored the hourly updates to planet

10:14 schestowitz-TR; but I think the IRC reminders were one liners in crontab files

10:14 schestowitz-TR; which I did not backup to ~pi/crontab

10:14 schestowitz-TR; recently enough

10:14 schestowitz-TR; but not much lost, just some one-liner, which probably annoys anyway

10:14 schestowitz-TR; chat should refrresh as often as the ddos wqatcher refreshes,

10:14 schestowitz-TR; if it runs, which it does not, every 10 mins

10:14 Techrights-sec; how often does gemini.techrights.org/chat/ get refreshed?

10:14 Techrights-sec; It says Aug 03 for some reason, today is Aug 04

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10:24 schestowitz-TR; try NOW

10:24 schestowitz-TR; updated OK, I can see it here now

10:24 schestowitz-TR; at 4am symlinks will be created for some "missing" files

10:24 schestowitz-TR; but I still don't know if I want to carry on running ipfs from the usb

10:24 Techrights-sec; The date on the RPi is ok

10:24 schestowitz-TR; started copying across ipfs files

10:24 schestowitz-TR; I can change my mind later

10:24 schestowitz-TR; it can take 1-2 days to copy!

10:24 schestowitz-TR; upside of this incident (main downside was loss of unimportant things and loss of time)

10:24 schestowitz-TR; network (wifi) OK again

10:25 schestowitz-TR; I can mout external disk again

10:25 schestowitz-TR; iptables works again

10:25 schestowitz-TR; it runs on usb, which I hope will last longer

10:25 schestowitz-TR; I'll try to get on with other stuff now

10:25 schestowitz-TR; a "necessary" nuisance, not my fault (like the 2 outages)

10:44 schestowitz; https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/gosling__Natural_Sounding_Text-to-Speech_in_the_Terminal.shtml symbol in the title seems to have been mishandled a bit

10:44 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines gosling Natural Sounding Text-to-Speech in the Terminal

11:02 Techrights-sec; checking

11:02 Techrights-sec; it's in the db ok so the problem lies with the extraction script

11:02 Techrights-sec; checking

11:02 Techrights-sec; ok check the URL now

11:02 Techrights-sec; thanks for spotting that, I think it's fixed and can be added to Git

11:02 Techrights-sec; hmm the deletion routine will have to be updated to handle removal of

11:02 Techrights-sec; files from the Gemini hierachy, too.

11:10 schestowitz-TR; sorry for late response

11:10 schestowitz-TR; re-ran end of month tasks on the pi

11:10 schestowitz-TR; as the last backup was right before end of month

11:10 schestowitz-TR; also posted Daily Links just now

11:10 schestowitz-TR; lots of Gemini catchup in these

11:10 schestowitz-TR; no politics yet

11:10 schestowitz-TR; I also feel lucky this week is as dry as a tumble

11:10 schestowitz-TR; news-wise

11:10 schestowitz-TR; so not much temptation to cover things, putting out fires instead

11:10 schestowitz-TR; hopefully no more outages for another 16 years, except those caused by us (fuse)

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11:15 Techrights-sec; major electrical outages are a PITA

11:16 schestowitz-TR; on /home/gemini (tux-machines-new)

11:16 schestowitz-TR; /n has + in permissions

11:16 schestowitz-TR; 2022 hasn't

11:16 schestowitz-TR; a limitation which I'm not sure imperils public access to nodes there

11:16 schestowitz-TR; didn't investigate yet

11:16 schestowitz-TR; I'm just "protecting" dirs with blank index.gmi

11:16 schestowitz-TR; though I think all gemini servers would serve nothing regardless

11:16 schestowitz-TR; they don't do directory listings

11:16 schestowitz-TR; oh, I see now, group membership exluded from writing

11:16 Techrights-sec; checking permisssions (ACLs are a necessary evil to overcome umask settings

11:16 Techrights-sec; in a group situation)

11:16 Techrights-sec; yes, the settings are correct

11:16 Techrights-sec; the subdirectories need correction though

11:26 schestowitz-TR; this helps explain why you could add to gemini and I could not

11:26 schestowitz-TR; you own the dirs and no "w" for group

11:26 schestowitz-TR; group gemtext

11:26 schestowitz-TR; I see you've g + w

11:26 schestowitz-TR; I think the dummy index.gmi I put there can be later made to list something for year, month, date

11:26 schestowitz-TR; like in techrights, in case navigation was ever to include that level of granularity, such as

11:26 schestowitz-TR; monthly archives

11:26 schestowitz-TR; that would be similar in WWW

11:26 schestowitz-TR; => January

11:26 schestowitz-TR; => February

11:26 schestowitz-TR; for crawlers' sake

11:26 schestowitz-TR; but probably far, far from an urgent need

11:26 schestowitz-TR; /n/2022 is drwxrwsr-x without a +

11:26 schestowitz-TR; unlike /n and /n/2022/[months]

11:26 schestowitz-TR; and for pertinent days only 8/4 is +

11:34 Techrights-sec; yes the umask is a chronic problem in group work situations on EXT

11:34 Techrights-sec; its enough if she tries a few per day, just to smoke out more bugs with

11:34 Techrights-sec; either the software or the work flow

11:34 schestowitz-TR; for crawlers' sake

11:34 schestowitz-TR; but probably far, far from an urgent need

11:34 schestowitz-TR; /n/2022 is drwxrwsr-x without a +

11:34 schestowitz-TR; unlike /n and /n/2022/[months]

11:34 schestowitz-TR; and for pertinent days only 8/4 is +

11:34 schestowitz-TR; later today I'll instruct rianne to post in parallel from account rianne

11:34 schestowitz-TR; she did this as tuxmachines before

11:34 schestowitz-TR; for now, images are not so important, so usually we can leave out the top part (image)

11:34 schestowitz-TR; when pasting in tuxmachines-new

11:34 schestowitz-TR; where GD fails, Features can be used as a fallback? I gues..?

11:34 schestowitz-TR; going upstairs now to guide her

11:34 schestowitz-TR; i think her pi clone is also complete now, full root backup, bootable

11:35 schestowitz-TR; (back. her pi400 earns us a living, very valuable as a NOC with our biggest screen at home)

11:35 schestowitz-TR; strongswan+openvpn+wireguard

11:35 Techrights-sec; For what it's worth, it can handle two screens concurrently and save space

11:35 Techrights-sec; and electricity by obviating the need for one of the other computers.

11:40 schestowitz-TR; she si now logged in, hunting for stories to post

11:40 schestowitz-TR; btw, she uses 2 machines

11:41 schestowitz-TR; +1 NOC

11:41 schestowitz-TR; she used to do all the NOC stuff from her laptop, which is underpowered

11:41 schestowitz-TR; the pi400 simplified things greatly

11:41 schestowitz-TR; it would not work with 2 screens in the sense that the other 2 machines are single head and it cannot be "reused" by the pi

11:41 schestowitz-TR; and one gets used as a phone

11:46 schestowitz-TR; we got our "corrected" gas bills again, second time in a week,

11:46 schestowitz-TR; coz we don't allow spy meters

11:46 schestowitz-TR; our power bills are still about 100 a month or 3.30 a day

11:46 schestowitz-TR; so maybe 1 for hot showers

11:46 schestowitz-TR; 1 home alliances (ovens, laundry)

11:46 schestowitz-TR; and just over 1 per day for 5 laptops, 2 pis

11:46 schestowitz-TR; no, 6 laptops, 2 pis, 5 external screens running 24/7

11:46 schestowitz-TR; +router, but that takes about as much a s router

11:46 schestowitz-TR; so energy prices aren't that high, albeit kliklely higher than food bills

11:46 schestowitz-TR; I know people who pay a lot more just for "telly" and having temperature control (they don't want or cannot

11:46 schestowitz-TR; keep it shut)

11:46 schestowitz-TR; so the time is, to us, more valuable than some laptop voltage

11:46 schestowitz-TR; when the laptops are idle or not used they dim down

11:46 schestowitz-TR; a bit like "smart" lights except the sensors part

11:48 Techrights-sec; yes laptops have kind of a buit-in UPS

11:51 schestowitz-TR; I was told 2 months ago why the exchanges still work during outages

11:51 schestowitz-TR; they have data and power retention built in

11:51 schestowitz-TR; so in theoryy during outages I can still surf the Web from the laptops

11:51 schestowitz-TR; but only if the router keeps power

11:51 schestowitz-TR; so I said, ok... if these outages take a while to solve (they found the culprit the second time around)

11:51 schestowitz-TR; I'll buy a UPS to share between the router and the pi, which is brittle

11:51 schestowitz-TR; I reminded rianne twice that millioniae Torvalds was offline for 6 days due to blixzzard storm in oregon

11:51 schestowitz-TR; he never thought of getting a generator

11:51 schestowitz-TR; or a satelliute link

11:51 schestowitz-TR; to him that would be slush funds

11:51 schestowitz-TR; and help the project immensely

11:51 schestowitz-TR; James and Sheela Microsoft probably cannot even wrap their heads around the idea of fallbacks like these

11:53 Techrights-sec; utes total

11:53 Techrights-sec; otr: of maintenance

11:53 Techrights-sec; yes they have UPS on site, same for the mobile phone towers

11:53 Techrights-sec; yes and the RPi has serial and gpio so it can be used to control the other

11:53 Techrights-sec; systems and power them down and then power itself down

11:53 Techrights-sec; power used to be reliable in the US. Not any more and now a disturbingly

11:53 Techrights-sec; large number of households have backup generators rather than forcing the

11:53 Techrights-sec; politicians to fix the grid.

11:57 schestowitz-TR; if it worsens (these 2 recent outages are first in 16 years, and both connected... should not be resolved as they replaced the damaged underground cable)

11:57 schestowitz-TR; I will purchase a budget (about 50 pounds) UPC for the router and pi so I can carry on working even during blackout

11:57 schestowitz-TR; also helps with the job, where being vigilant is the key function

11:57 schestowitz-TR; not like programming, where one can say, I'll carry on later

11:57 schestowitz-TR; a colleague also had an outage recently

11:57 schestowitz-TR; not related to the weather, for sure (it's summer)

11:57 schestowitz-TR; speaking of generators, rianne's parents live in a place where one is needed to add water pressure in case

11:57 schestowitz-TR; you want a "proper" shower

11:57 schestowitz-TR; some things are taken for granted

11:57 schestowitz-TR; in the US, it seems, what used to work is takern away

11:57 schestowitz-TR; good for generator companies

11:57 schestowitz-TR; like the oil industry against electirc cars, I'm sure they're "lobby" (bribe)

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12:10 Techrights-sec; yes same with the phones and just about everything there

12:10 schestowitz-TR; ok, rianne posted two nodes, the cloning of her pi is complete and she's feeling safer for the fallbacks

12:10 schestowitz-TR; landlines sucking (happens here sometimes; voice quality) steers people towards tracking devices

12:10 schestowitz-TR; what's more, what's left of public phone booths is poorly maintain, rarely works

12:10 schestowitz-TR; and "can I use your landline" would be "can I borrow your mobile?"

12:11 schestowitz-TR; devuan

12:11 schestowitz-TR; Peppermint OS Now Also Offers a Systemd-free Devuan Variant! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167992

12:11 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Peppermint OS Now Also Offers a Systemd-free Devuan Variant! | Tux Machines

12:12 Techrights-sec; Excellent news! I am glad to read that more distros are beginnging to track

12:12 Techrights-sec; Devuan. It would have been easier for them to have made the switch back

12:12 Techrights-sec; in 2014 but now is a good time too. Now is certainly better than later.

12:21 schestowitz-TR; if we sort out the acl bit in "2022" dir, I can change my irc stuff to also post gemini links

12:21 schestowitz-TR; I think the path leading to 08/04 is OK except at that level

12:21 schestowitz-TR; days prioe to 08/04 lack the extra acl permission

12:21 schestowitz-TR; oh, I think gemini is still not generated by default with add_and_refresh_from_db

12:29 Techrights-sec; ok checking

12:29 Techrights-sec; try now

12:29 Techrights-sec; EXT sure is annoying

12:29 Techrights-sec; checking *.sh

12:30 schestowitz-TR; ooh! nice.

12:30 schestowitz-TR; the conversion to gemtext is very good

12:30 schestowitz-TR; and shows a legend of news items in lagrange

12:30 schestowitz-TR; like it does in techrights daily links, similar format...

12:31 Techrights-sec; The conversion is less advanced though. It can only handle things one layer

12:31 Techrights-sec; deep and no special classes. However, that should not be much of an issue

12:31 Techrights-sec; since as far as I know the posts are quite short and simple.

12:31 Techrights-sec; The -a option can be added to (re-)generate the whole site, if run manually.

12:35 schestowitz-TR; I'm going to write something with sed to give us the gemini url, based on the http-xml feed

12:35 schestowitz-TR; are newly-added nodes exported to gemini with new revisions, or should thatbe done manually for now?

12:36 Techrights-sec; which context for the URL? It would be easier to add that to a perl script

12:36 Techrights-sec; which already gets run, I would guess

12:36 Techrights-sec; All three wrapper scripts now update Gemini, but it would be good to double

12:36 Techrights-sec; check that old records are updated there too.

12:37 schestowitz-TR; I'm going to give that a test

12:41 Techrights-sec; found more UTF 8 trouble :/

12:41 Techrights-sec; http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/01/Emmabunt%C3%BCs:_On_August_1st,_2022,_Emma_DE4_2nd_update.shtml

12:41 Techrights-sec; at least it's getting into the db ok so those parts are good

12:41 Techrights-sec; the extraction script seems to be the weak point

12:41 Techrights-sec; looking into it ...

12:41 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Emmabunts: On August 1st, 2022, Emma DE4 2nd update

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12:50 schestowitz-TR; I'm going to give that a test

12:50 schestowitz-TR; atm I try to figure out why some long gemini urls in the navigation pane at the top give "Not Found"

12:50 schestowitz-TR; the shorter urls work ok

12:50 schestowitz-TR; still trying to understand the pattern

12:50 Techrights-sec; yes /n/ is missing from the navigation

12:51 schestowitz-TR; yes, I was just about to say the same

12:51 schestowitz-TR; it evades me at first

13:05 Techrights-sec; working ...

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13:11 schestowitz; Record added

13:11 schestowitz; Wide character in print at /usr/local/bin/tm-extract-posts-sql.pl line 388.

13:12 schestowitz; Wide character in print at /usr/local/bin/tm-extract-posts-sql.pl line 388.

13:12 schestowitz; Could not open '/home/gemini/gemini/n/2022/08/04/16_Best_Open-source_Free_Ghost_Blog_Themes_for_2022.gmi' for writing: Permission denied

13:12 schestowitz; roy:/home/gemini/gemini/n/2022/08/04%

13:16 Techrights-sec; ok some improvements have been made but individual navigation links here

13:16 Techrights-sec; and there are broken, looking into that now

13:22 Techrights-sec; yes the wide character problem will not be addressed in the near future

13:22 Techrights-sec; it'll be a bit before I get the gemtext generator working enough to test

13:22 Techrights-sec; further

13:22 schestowitz-TR; I see..

13:23 schestowitz-TR; the latter error means that when I add new node it'll empty existing gmi files

13:23 schestowitz-TR; due to a permission error, I use my personal account

13:23 Techrights-sec; no worries, they can be regenerated, it is the db which is the important

13:23 Techrights-sec; component, and the db is ok for now

13:23 Techrights-sec; yes checking again, it is a matter of umask and forcing that with an ACL

13:26 Techrights-sec; no error, only your and my account are in gemtext, rianne and marius need

13:26 Techrights-sec; to be added ...

13:26 Techrights-sec; all set

13:26 Techrights-sec; they are added now

13:30 Techrights-sec; be sure to log in again if the group membership has not applied, but you've been

13:30 Techrights-sec; in the group for a long time

13:30 Techrights-sec; can amfora handle commas in URLs? Something is causing it to choke on links

13:30 Techrights-sec; it seems it cannot handle colons, maybe other punctuations as well

13:32 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> First Release Candidate of Krita 5.1.0 is out Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167996 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/First_Release_Candidate_of_Krita_5.1.0_is_out.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/First_Release_Candidate_of_Krita_5.1.0_is_out.gmi

13:32 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | First Release Candidate of Krita 5.1.0 is out | Tux Machines

13:32 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines First Release Candidate of Krita 5.1.0 is out

13:32 schestowitz-TR; first of its kind ^

13:32 schestowitz-TR; thanks! I'll try to add a new node now as "roy"

13:32 schestowitz-TR; I'm not sure ay RFCs exist to specify allowed chars in URLs

13:33 Techrights-sec; rats. that is the case. No one follows the specs anyway and ther are lots

13:33 Techrights-sec; of misunderstandings. Daniel Stenberg did a very good analysis of the problem

13:33 Techrights-sec; years ago. tldr; there is no common agreement anywhere about what goes into

13:33 Techrights-sec; a URL, what is not allowed, and how it is structured. :/

13:34 schestowitz-TR; yes, I was about to say the same, but no need to change that retroactively

13:34 schestowitz-TR; what's done is done

13:34 schestowitz-TR; maybe from now on, urls can omit or skip more symbols, or maybe use hyphens

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13:36 Techrights-sec; Therefore the only way to allow the HTTP links to map to the Gemini links

13:36 Techrights-sec; would be to adjust how the HTTP links are written and remove the characters

13:36 Techrights-sec; which choke Gemini

13:36 Techrights-sec; no it's easy to fix retroactively; this is an alpha site anyway

13:36 Techrights-sec; yes the script can zap the punctuation, a problem is that there is a lot of

13:36 Techrights-sec; punctuation to choose from; perhaps there is a character class in perlre which

13:36 Techrights-sec; covers it

13:37 schestowitz-TR; the stanard for url is "works with ie" -> "works with ie +firefox" -> "works with chrom* + clones"

13:38 schestowitz-TR; am literally falling asleep (almost) at my chair, back in an hour or two

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16:06 Techrights-sec; the POSIX class can be used in perl

16:11 Techrights-sec; is the editing going ok? I see that the db is locked

16:12 schestowitz-TR; there is an issue, I cannot enter data, it hands before it goes to nano

16:12 Techrights-sec; yes it is locked by rianne

16:12 Techrights-sec; hence the question

16:13 schestowitz-TR; she posted while I was alseep, got stuck with the second one

16:13 schestowitz-TR; I'll go check

16:13 Techrights-sec; thanks

16:16 schestowitz-TR; OK, not I understand why she got stuck

16:16 schestowitz-TR; tried using the same slug, Android Leftovers, twice

16:16 schestowitz-TR; I explained to her how to avoid that

16:19 Techrights-sec; did the script give a proper warning about the duplicate?

16:19 schestowitz-TR; she did the right thing by stopping when she was not sure and told me right away when I woke upo

16:19 schestowitz-TR; I didn't ask for the details

16:19 schestowitz-TR; and yes, the warning said another slug was needed

16:19 schestowitz-TR; she now knows

16:19 schestowitz-TR; I told her use something like "2" or anything unique _for that day_

16:20 Techrights-sec; maybe there should be a unique, autoincrement number ther

16:21 schestowitz-TR; wordpress automates it, adds a "2", or "3"...

16:21 schestowitz-TR; not sure I remember what drupal does uponm dupes

16:21 schestowitz-TR; techrights has so many slugs I cannot even recall what would be unique, but it shows me suggestioins, before I decided...

16:32 Techrights-sec; it'd be feasible to add, it would involve only the add and extract scripts

16:32 Techrights-sec; this too is improvised

16:33 schestowitz-TR; you seem to have built a full scale, stripped down, gemini+http content management system

16:33 schestowitz-TR; which afaik is a monster that barelyu exists

16:33 schestowitz-TR; only improved things

16:33 schestowitz-TR; *improvised

16:33 schestowitz-TR; everything starts this way

16:33 schestowitz-TR; later generalised if it's of wider appeal

16:33 Techrights-sec; it's more generic than the tr version

16:38 schestowitz-TR; it looks like you already reused some code from there, I think sometimes convergence then becomes attrative

16:38 schestowitz-TR; my script start as:

16:38 schestowitz-TR; 1) do some shit

16:38 schestowitz-TR; 2) write a command to do the same shit

16:38 schestowitz-TR; 3) expand the comment to do that shit

16:38 schestowitz-TR; 4) toss in a script named helpfully for late

16:38 schestowitz-TR; 5) improve the script

16:38 schestowitz-TR; 6) add comments, vars

16:38 schestowitz-TR; 7) add 'gui' (dialog or graphical... leanred not to do the latter due to past experiene doing very nice GUIS that only I myself ever used)

16:38 schestowitz-TR; 8) version control

16:38 schestowitz-TR; very few projects become mambo (extinct), zope

16:38 schestowitz-TR; or even change the world likw wordpress

16:38 schestowitz-TR; wordpress was a 'ripoof' of michel's ugly heck

16:38 schestowitz-TR; b2 (france

16:38 schestowitz-TR; you can still see the php gui of b2

16:38 schestowitz-TR; it was VERY simple

16:38 schestowitz-TR; wordpress picked gpl

16:38 schestowitz-TR; because of b2

16:38 schestowitz-TR; linux did the same

16:38 schestowitz-TR; and torvalds admits this is what got so mnay people involved in his "hobby"

16:38 schestowitz-TR; inc. some "raspe apologist"

16:39 schestowitz-TR; gpl = if I hate Torvalds' guts, I take this whole shit and coordinate with other people who hate his guts

16:39 schestowitz-TR; to do whatever we want with ALL the same code

16:39 schestowitz-TR; so Torvalkds must be nice... to people who deserve it

16:39 schestowitz-TR; mgj "forked" Linux in github

16:39 schestowitz-TR; nobody even joined that git... nobody with talent

16:40 schestowitz-TR; mambo and jooma (and other one whose name I forgot) are connected through forking

16:40 schestowitz-TR; *joomla

16:43 schestowitz-TR; the only project I did that became of wider appeal is TR

16:43 schestowitz-TR; TM is not mine... it found appeal because of texstar, susan, and texstar's distro (pclos was #1 in distrowatch) putting TM in the Firefox bookm ark

16:43 schestowitz-TR; when I installed PCLOS for my dad TM was already up there in his browser

16:43 schestowitz-TR; from my understanding, drupal was set up by texstar (I spoke to him when we took over) and susan was his partner. she sold the site she

16:43 schestowitz-TR; made with texstar when she remarried his former husband

16:43 schestowitz-TR; that's personal, so I'll stop there

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16:49 schestowitz-TR; observation

16:49 schestowitz-TR; why did so many people help wordpress for free, myself included?

16:49 schestowitz-TR; we were users

16:49 schestowitz-TR; and we hacked at the code

16:49 schestowitz-TR; and we engaged in the community

16:49 schestowitz-TR; it became collective work

16:49 schestowitz-TR; same with linux and early gnu/linux users

16:50 schestowitz-TR; so for a cms it helps to get more people to deploy

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16:50 schestowitz-TR; then they maake improvements

16:50 schestowitz-TR; and give them back to youi (agpl)

16:50 schestowitz-TR; some of them might be of use to you too

16:50 schestowitz-TR; I started at wordpress 1.2 IIRC

16:50 schestowitz-TR; not long after it had started

16:50 Techrights-sec; wp is not so good any more and more of a money mill for the company and

16:50 Techrights-sec; for all practical purposes close despite being FOSS

16:50 schestowitz-TR; when it became commercialised (Automattic) I increasingly lost interest

16:50 schestowitz-TR; there's a lot of WP ftatigue now

16:50 schestowitz-TR; not Wordperfect

16:50 schestowitz-TR; because people realise 1,000-file CMS is not suitable for sites with 10 pages

16:50 schestowitz-TR; and all this automatic update stuff worsens the maintaenance overhead

16:50 schestowitz-TR; so they need to get expensive hosting that includes backups, support, uypgrades...

16:50 schestowitz-TR; like php upgrades, OS upgrades, lots of dependencies in WP

16:50 schestowitz-TR; some months agoi a very small site, bytes media, took 1-2 hours of my time because after php upgrade

16:50 schestowitz-TR; some code no longer worked

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16:50 schestowitz-TR; and I had to fix the code by hand, otherwise blank pages

16:50 schestowitz-TR; with sttaic pages it would at least give you something

16:51 schestowitz-TR; years ago there was a react controversy in wordpress

16:51 schestowitz-TR; due to the licence

16:51 schestowitz-TR; and my initial reactionm was

16:51 schestowitz-TR; WTF? WTF dopes react do in wordpress (FB, bloat)

16:51 schestowitz-TR; maybe their new GUI and stuff

16:51 schestowitz-TR; which can increase complexity instead of lowering it

16:51 schestowitz-TR; feature churn

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16:59 Techrights-sec; refreshed Gemtext documents and XHTML documents using the punctuation-free

16:59 Techrights-sec; file names

16:59 schestowitz-TR; there are LOADS os static site gnerators(generalised) vying to become the "statis wordpress'\

17:00 schestowitz-TR; but few are still actively maintained,

17:00 schestowitz-TR; ghoist, hgo and jekyll are among the better known ones

17:00 schestowitz-TR; the market does not reward many

17:00 schestowitz-TR; it gravitates towards "hgegemony" like 6-EYES and systemd and Microsoft Windows... or Android in mobile

17:00 schestowitz-TR; because being countercurrent is making life a little harder

17:00 schestowitz-TR; "why don't you just use X like everyone else?"

17:00 Techrights-sec; unfortunately so

17:00 schestowitz-TR; banks say that a lot

17:03 schestowitz-TR; wordpress was not alwats "easy" to install

17:03 schestowitz-TR; it still is not

17:03 schestowitz-TR; I installed it last year and in 2004

17:03 schestowitz-TR; CNET hired Matt Mullenweg to install it for them so the staff can blog

17:03 schestowitz-TR; they probably paid some lincence for an expensive prioprioetary cms up to that point... since the 90s

17:03 schestowitz-TR; later came "WordPress MU" (multiuser)

17:03 schestowitz-TR; and then deals with ISPs and WQebhosts

17:03 schestowitz-TR; and Fantastico etc.

17:03 schestowitz-TR; all those "one click install" scripts wrapped up in a GUI

17:03 schestowitz-TR; so it was a lot to do with bundling

17:03 schestowitz-TR; then came wordpress.coim

17:03 schestowitz-TR; which it turn became like a webhost

17:03 schestowitz-TR; Drupal's company moved in the same direction

17:03 schestowitz-TR; afaik, it's still the host of opensource.com

17:03 schestowitz-TR; Red Hat can't even manage Drupal on their olwn?

17:03 schestowitz-TR; FSF can

17:04 schestowitz-TR; mlee complaint about wordpress needing many updates

17:04 schestowitz-TR; iirc, fsf used to have joomla or something

17:04 schestowitz-TR; I recently showed visually the history of the FSF site

17:06 schestowitz-TR; rms told me they'd look into serving gnu and fsf pages over gemini but of coursew not much gets done by the fsf these days

17:06 schestowitz-TR; 2-3 years ago they said they'd make a code repo project akin to gitlab, in order to replqce github

17:06 schestowitz-TR; don't even remind them now... as nothing gone done, you might even call all their projected daya vapourware

17:06 schestowitz-TR; *date (they kept saying stuff like later this year)

17:06 schestowitz-TR; /s/mlee/mattL

17:12 Techrights-sec; I'm still concerned about the passivity of the FSF and the derailed nature of

17:12 Techrights-sec; the EFF

17:15 schestowitz-TR; the sad thing is that they don't care about your concern and don't want to be saved, as they do not think

17:15 schestowitz-TR; they need saving. they do exactly what some people who took the baton always wanted to do

17:15 schestowitz-TR; in the EFF's case, I don't consider doctorow to be a flag bearer but a mascot who is salaried for "mascotting"

17:15 schestowitz-TR; isn eckersely or whatever his name was still there?

17:15 schestowitz-TR; rather than the modern diversity candidate with no technical background, just some history in politics

17:15 schestowitz-TR; and by politics I mean part of some hornets' net in sopcial control media

17:17 Techrights-sec; There's now a field reserved for making the URLs unique in the keys table.

17:17 Techrights-sec; Any preference on what it shall be called? Only the add and extract will

17:17 Techrights-sec; need to use it, the former read-write and the latter read-only.

17:19 schestowitz-TR; if slug is already a named field, maybe UURL?

17:19 Techrights-sec; Yes doctorow is kind of a mascot or a distraction to keep the old school

17:19 Techrights-sec; members off their backs

17:19 Techrights-sec; ballast?

17:19 Techrights-sec; I hope that they would listen more to Cory Doctorow more than they do. He

17:19 Techrights-sec; has figured out the situation and has a good idea of a feasible way forward.

17:22 schestowitz-TR; they will not promote him

17:22 schestowitz-TR; it would threaten people who rely on eff having c and d... and z types

17:22 schestowitz-TR; they already ousted gilmore after so many years there

17:22 schestowitz-TR; doctorow "got the message" loud and clear

17:22 schestowitz-TR; haha, and don't expet him to write anything about billg there

17:22 schestowitz-TR; eff has been too busy picking on RMS

17:22 schestowitz-TR; mentioning bill's evil patents can put off big funders like mark cuban, who also

17:22 schestowitz-TR; invested in patent trolls

17:22 schestowitz-TR; but later funded a campaign against "bad patents"

17:22 Techrights-sec; unfortunately so

17:26 schestowitz-TR; I recently read an article about class solidarity at the TOP

17:26 schestowitz-TR; they map their "enemies".... the ones who must be kept quiet, like the two melbourne students

17:26 schestowitz-TR; Assange and Pocock

17:26 schestowitz-TR; unlike Francis Gurry (also same university/) from WIPO... the agency which deploatformed Pocock

17:26 schestowitz-TR; doctorwow speaks a lot about class issue, like russell brand, so he's just there to be a jester

17:26 schestowitz-TR; and won't be put in a suit

17:26 schestowitz-TR; the suit is reserved for James and Sheela Microsoft

17:26 schestowitz-TR; Torvbalds can get old, cold, and die in a bathrobe

17:26 schestowitz-TR; "I actually made Linux... when that word meant something"

17:26 schestowitz-TR; Larry Sagner: I co-founded Wikipedia

17:26 schestowitz-TR; two men: tesla is our company, but we were paid not to tell you this. hush hush.

17:26 schestowitz-TR; fraudurocracy

17:28 schestowitz-TR; wozniak did not get canceled or forcibly sent to therapist, but he's a niche and only erevered among geeks

17:28 schestowitz-TR; to the average apple "consumer" it's all Jobs and Crook

17:28 schestowitz-TR; marketing people and financiers

17:30 schestowitz-TR; wozniak did not get canceled or forcibly sent to therapist, but he's a niche and only erevered among geeks

17:30 schestowitz-TR; to the average apple "consumer" it's all Jobs and Crook

17:30 schestowitz-TR; marketing people and financiers

17:30 schestowitz-TR; kooyman is dutch and has too much decency in the culture to "do a zemlin" on rms imho

17:30 schestowitz-TR; it's no bully de bblanc or deb icaza, but fsf has stagnated regardless (inaction)

17:34 Techrights-sec; sadly, wozniak scrambled his own brains in an unnecessary plane crash which

17:34 Techrights-sec; came very close to outright killing him off. That's why he's been off to the

17:34 Techrights-sec; It could have been much worse, but it could also have been much better.

17:34 Techrights-sec; Without the severe, permanent brain damage he could have continued in some

17:34 Techrights-sec; kind of engineering role until cancellation

17:34 Techrights-sec; or retirement

17:37 schestowitz-TR; I'm looking for links to add, it's a slow news day tbh

17:37 schestowitz-TR; which suits me (as does the week off work) because of the incidents

17:37 schestowitz-TR; slept like a baby knowing tuxmachines if finally in gemini:// too

17:37 schestowitz-TR; and for now it's only advertised in irc

17:37 schestowitz-TR; not in the html pages or the official (old) site

17:37 schestowitz-TR; although the capsule does not replace anything, so in theory it could be advertised

17:37 schestowitz-TR; before the "replacement" CMS

17:37 schestowitz-TR; I tested itr earlier with lagrange, I no longer keep like 5 gemini clients open like I used to

17:37 schestowitz-TR; a year ago when I tried to promote adoption of gemini

17:40 schestowitz-TR; what I did not envision before is that tuxmachines migration would make migration of techrights a lot easier

17:40 schestowitz-TR; as it's the same OS and there's room for reuse. we moaned a lot about www and systemd and better later than never

17:40 schestowitz-TR; to do something outselves, too, about those issues. And best in august when it's quiet. rianne is focusing now on

17:40 schestowitz-TR; exams for citizenship so we can proceed in sept. can take 6-9 months.

17:42 Techrights-sec; 6 to 9 months is a long time, is it a large course load?

17:45 schestowitz-TR; 6 months is how long they process application, the course is like 150 multiple choice ("Murican style") questions

17:45 schestowitz-TR; and should be easy enugh for "halima" and "singh" and "chong" to pass too

17:45 schestowitz-TR; so rianne can do ok, same for english test

17:45 schestowitz-TR; the paper reqs are very easy too

17:45 schestowitz-TR; the key thing is, be in the country a lot the past 5 years, have no criminal record

17:45 schestowitz-TR; turns out employment record is barely a factor, just 2 letters oif recomm

17:45 schestowitz-TR; I too would apply, but after brexit I hold on to my existing passport

17:57 schestowitz-TR; "oligarch" like peter thiel can just buy themselves passports anywhere without all those "Acid tests" that weed out opportunists, imposters,

17:57 schestowitz-TR; pretenders and even terrorists

17:57 schestowitz-TR; because his class is the one deciding the laws and assessing merit

17:57 schestowitz-TR; if you check irc logs in gemini, you'll see tuxmachines links now come with gemini urls, too

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18:08 schestowitz-TR; Techrights updates done by polling or sending a signal over ssh when new articles are published

18:08 schestowitz-TR; with tuxmachines it is instant and the hosting resides on the same machine

18:08 schestowitz-TR; with nginx and gemini-proxy the address gemini.tuxmachines.org can also serve over http/s

18:08 schestowitz-TR; but then it needs to decipher the subdomain parts so as to not conflate with "news" or "beta" etc.

18:08 schestowitz-TR; so one option is to use apache and change the config

18:08 schestowitz-TR; but tbh, not practical use to that

18:08 schestowitz-TR; a proxy for a gemini version of a site that already serves https, and does so better

18:08 schestowitz-TR; atm if you enter gemin.tuxmachines.org in a browser it gives the proper site

18:08 schestowitz-TR; so no point running gemini-proxy there, ignore my out-loud thought

18:08 schestowitz-TR; I answered my own question, sort of

18:16 schestowitz-TR; 'doing a pelosi' = trying to undermine other superpowers to distract from the failure of your own

18:16 schestowitz-TR; see also: zero-summers, Microsoft infiltrators

18:16 schestowitz-TR; rianne is furious as she worked in taiwan

18:16 schestowitz-TR; and I told her, taiwan can be the "eastern front" ukraine

18:16 schestowitz-TR; it'll take 10 million chinese missiles while we wave wtaiwan flags and boast about the hereism of the people

18:16 schestowitz-TR; of taiwan

18:16 schestowitz-TR; just so that they can destroy like 1000 chinese tanks, based on soviet designs

18:16 schestowitz-TR; plus, US weapon sales, so you profit while you watch the cannon foder languishing (*fodder)

18:16 schestowitz-TR; waving taiwanese symbols and flags in an homage for their bravery

18:16 schestowitz-TR; slavix moujahadeen, "chinito" moujahadeen, who next?

18:18 schestowitz-TR; during and/or after wars (if you withstand them) you can justify going into higher gdp/debt ratio

18:18 schestowitz-TR; japan is still about 1:3

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18:24 schestowitz-TR; (that's not to say us i to blame for japan's imperial ambitions of that US/EU started the Ukraine war)

18:24 Techrights-sec; japan was not connected to the US politically prior to WWII

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18:27 schestowitz-TR; japan's imperial navala and air force is connected to the british, which taught and equipped them

18:27 schestowitz-TR; empires sees alike

18:27 schestowitz-TR; but japan chose the "wrong" allies and went too far against china, like hitler in russia

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18:35 schestowitz-TR; news.tuxmachines.org is already in google's search index

18:35 schestowitz-TR; I'm starting to add more nodes now, it gives me 3 urls

18:36 schestowitz-TR; old, new, and gemini

18:36 schestowitz-TR; I think I found a bug, the latest page added has ":" and "," in the URL

18:36 schestowitz-TR; lagrange cannot access it

18:52 Techrights-sec; checking

18:52 schestowitz-TR; thanks, and sorry if I typed too much this past hour or two

18:52 schestowitz-TR; I'm getting back to my routine for the first time since the outage

18:52 schestowitz-TR; I get system bell-ed now when you commit

18:52 schestowitz-TR; and afaik, the multiple listener issue is not resolved

18:54 Techrights-sec; checking the mqtt logs ...

18:56 schestowitz-TR; does it fit your screen ok?

18:56 Techrights-sec; which session>

18:56 Techrights-sec; the multiple listener issue seems fixe

18:58 schestowitz-TR; can you see the new tmux pane

18:58 schestowitz-TR; sorry, im meant windows, not pane

18:58 Techrights-sec; the multiple listener issue seems fixe

18:58 Techrights-sec; which session name?

19:00 schestowitz-TR; there are now vertically-split panes at my end

19:00 schestowitz-TR; not sure if you see those too

19:01 Techrights-sec; there's no shared tmux session called ytalk on tm-new

19:01 Techrights-sec; those are different sessions not connected except through ytalk

19:01 Techrights-sec; so what you see will be separatefrom what I see

19:01 schestowitz-TR; no,the one we use right now, on your pi

19:06 schestowitz-TR; I see, I'll keep it like this at my end to spare an extra open terminal

19:06 schestowitz-TR; (I use your pi to connect to my pi, which routes to my laptop that does periodic alerts re git

19:06 schestowitz-TR; if you sudo su roy

19:06 schestowitz-TR; and then tmux a -t ytalk in another terminal you will see what I mean

19:21 Techrights-sec; those are different sessions not connected except through ytalk

19:21 Techrights-sec; so what you see will be separatefrom what I see, they're in different acccounts

19:21 Techrights-sec; I can guess but don't want to disturb the session there

19:24 schestowitz-TR; resized the windows a bit, ctrl+b+up/down

19:24 schestowitz-TR; so beneath your size I can see the latest links, and git commits for each repo, plus some details

19:24 schestowitz-TR; mqtt does real-time alerts

19:24 schestowitz-TR; todo: use that as a trigger

19:24 schestowitz-TR; send message to knotify so I don't have to check the terminal

19:30 schestowitz-TR; added window in tandem for git show

19:30 schestowitz-TR; when something new comes in

19:30 schestowitz-TR; as code can communicate better than words and save you the hassle explaining

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19:31 Techrights-sec; nice, I'll take a look

19:32 schestowitz-TR; the git show thing is a separate terminal though, running on the LAN

19:32 schestowitz-TR; the screen in front of my face, where ytalk is at the centre

19:32 schestowitz-TR; (I've not done videos in days, but have no good topics to cover either)

19:38 schestowitz-TR; cd ~/Git-TM/tuxmachines.org/tuxmachines.org/ && git show && cd ~/Git && git show

19:46 schestowitz-TR; hit needed: how to add hook to sub_forgotitsname for executing a command

19:46 schestowitz-TR; second thought: I already get real-time system bell, can run it manually when that happens and am not in the middle of something

19:55 britney; cocaine is a hell of a drug

19:57 schestowitz-TR; you tried it?

19:57 schestowitz-TR; Techrights-sec:

19:57 schestowitz-TR; - $post = &xhtml_to_gemtext($post);

19:57 schestowitz-TR; are you reusing code?

19:57 schestowitz-TR; I think some perl libs were done that help with conversions

19:57 schestowitz-TR; I saw that in "awesomeGemini"

19:57 schestowitz-TR; newswaffle reuses a lot of things to make its very decent conversions

19:59 schestowitz-TR; + $body = &xhtml_to_gemtext($body);

19:59 schestowitz-TR; now it's easy for me to see what happens in real time ^_^

20:03 schestowitz-TR; literally just finished the dails links, will do my quiterss feeds now, there will be updates in TM

20:04 Techrights-sec; yes, reusing code

20:04 Techrights-sec; if functions turn up in more than one script I can split them out into a module

20:04 Techrights-sec; but I think there is only one function like that so far and so that's still

20:04 Techrights-sec; on the list of things to do

20:04 Techrights-sec; there are still some UTF8 matters to clear up among other things

20:05 schestowitz-TR; if it's any solace, utf-x issues were also a pain in old TM

20:05 schestowitz-TR; drupal cannot, in particular, cope with emoji and other "high bit" input

20:05 schestowitz-TR; which means I need to double-check everything I post there

20:05 britney; <schestowitz-TR> you tried it?

20:06 schestowitz-TR; I had a canadian girldfriend ages ago

20:06 schestowitz-TR; and she did schrooms sometimes

20:06 schestowitz-TR; in parties

20:06 schestowitz-TR; as a teen

20:06 schestowitz-TR; *shrooms

20:06 schestowitz-TR; I germanised that

20:06 britney; shrooms are kinda intense

20:07 britney; if i had a choice between mushrooms and LSD, I'd take the LSD

20:07 schestowitz-TR; I never even tried pot

20:07 schestowitz-TR; our neighbours smoke it in t he back yard

20:07 schestowitz-TR; stinks

20:08 britney; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ16H0hsQiQ

20:08 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Invidious: https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=RZ16H0hsQiQ

20:08 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> invidious.namazso.eu | Rick James - Cocaine Is A Hell Of A Drug - Invidious

20:08 Techrights-sec; well it's only half a problem since the characters are getting into the db

20:08 Techrights-sec; and being stored there correctly

20:11 schestowitz-TR; I need to massivel improve my TM workflow and rianne's two

20:11 schestowitz-TR; for posting in two sites in tandem

20:11 schestowitz-TR; haven't found the right screen setup and copy-paste order yet

20:11 schestowitz-TR; going upstairs to discuss with rianne

20:11 schestowitz-TR; she's listing in ebay lots of stuff she got in yorkshire

20:11 britney; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FmYmdGRONI

20:11 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Invidious: https://invidious.flokinet.to/watch?v=2FmYmdGRONI

20:11 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> invidious.flokinet.to | what did the 5 fingers said to the face? I`m rick James Biatch - Invidious

20:11 britney; im rick james bitch

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20:31 schestowitz-TR; it does a 4-way hop now, due to router bug

20:31 schestowitz-TR; laptop->my laptop->rianne's lapto->tuxmachines-new

20:31 schestowitz-TR; or I could just place her ssh keys on that laptop

20:31 schestowitz-TR; to avoid two levels of indirection I've just passed her keys to thatother laptops

20:31 schestowitz-TR; so both can access the site/s , back end with tux.sh on ~

20:31 Techrights-sec; ssh -J -J -J dest

20:31 Techrights-sec; or make new keys

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