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08:02 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "The CEO of America's largest bank is worried, and for good reason." https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/03/you-can-thank-ronald-reagan-economic-shitstorm-come | Source: Common Dreams
08:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | You Can Thank Ronald Reagan for the Economic Shitstorm to Come | Thom Hartmann
08:36 schestowitz-TR; On github as a social network gemini://erock.io/2022/06/03/github-as-social-network/ "Slowly I began to realize that these social networking sites were echo-chambers that really didn't mean much at all."
08:38 schestowitz-TR; "Github is the worst kind of social networking site. Like a virus, it has infected my mind and is constantly getting me to engage with it. It's a social networking site that I have to use for work." gemini://erock.io/2022/06/03/github-as-social-network/
08:39 schestowitz-TR; "Github isn't just a code repository, it's a social networking site. The network effect makes it really hard to host other open source projects anywhere else." gemini://erock.io/2022/06/03/github-as-social-network/
08:41 schestowitz-TR; "I really like sourcehut[1] and will be moving everything there. There are no "engagement" features like stars or trending projects. Drew, more than anyone, has made me realize that you don't have to participate in social networking in order to have people use your projects." "gemini://erock.io/2022/06/03/github-as-social-network/ "I really like sourcehut[1] and will be moving everything there. There are no "engagement" features like
08:41 schestowitz-TR; stars or trending projects. Drew, more than anyone, has made me realize that you don't have to participate in social networking in order to have people use your projects." "gemini://erock.io/2022/06/03/github-as-social-network/
08:44 Techrights-sec; ack
08:44 Techrights-sec; sr.ht seems ok
09:34 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Chomsky https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/03/a-response-to-yuriy-gorodnichenko-bohdan-kukharskyy-anastassia-fedyk-and-ilona-sologoub-regarding-their-critique-of-noam-chomsky-on-the-russia-ukraine-war/ | Source: Counter Punch
09:34 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-A Response to Yuriy Gorodnichenko,Bohdan Kukharskyy,Anastassia Fedyk andIlona SologoubRegarding Their Critique of Noam Chomsky on the Russia-Ukraine War - CounterPunch.org
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10:39 schestowitz-TR; tried thinking of venn diagrams for brands and threat types, but those would not fit well
10:39 schestowitz-TR; trying to come up with a more useful presentation
10:39 schestowitz-TR; an alternate approach is to highlight overlap in threats, as in surveillance and censorship having overlaps
10:39 schestowitz-TR; the goal is to do something nobody else did before
10:40 Techrights-sec; THere may be too many aspect for a simple chart for visualization
10:40 Techrights-sec; that might work better
10:40 Techrights-sec; simply cataloging them ought to be a good start
10:48 schestowitz-TR; the companies, the threats, or both?
10:48 schestowitz-TR; hardware lockdown is a reasonably new one
10:48 schestowitz-TR; btw, quite a few articles this morning about covid-19 patent barriers
10:48 schestowitz-TR; the problem was never solved
10:50 Techrights-sec; both
10:50 Techrights-sec; the chain of UEFI, Restricted Boot, TPM, etc ought to be prominent
10:50 Techrights-sec; People have been ignoring the slowing creeping assault, others are in denial
10:50 Techrights-sec; and claim they will just buy old hardware for all eternity. Even if the old
10:50 Techrights-sec; hardware remains available, the DRM'd software and new DRM'd hardware will
10:50 Techrights-sec; actively introduce incompatibilities so that it will be mariginalized and
10:50 Techrights-sec; rendered useless quickly anyway.
10:50 Techrights-sec; Gate''s PR team has already poisoned the well on that topic though so
10:50 Techrights-sec; there is a bit of an uphill fight to get it acknowleged as a real problem
10:52 schestowitz-TR; I've nearly cleaned all my feeds apart from patents (which is mostly noise and causes annoyanace... not good for my head)
10:52 schestowitz-TR; I'll try to produce some abstraction of the threat landscape
10:52 schestowitz-TR; btw, fsf has been supoer quiet this past month, not sure if it's just me noticing that
10:54 Techrights-sec; they've been quiet for a long time but especially quiet of late, but the
10:54 Techrights-sec; general long period of quiet masks that
10:54 Techrights-sec; dunno
10:55 schestowitz-TR; I've just checcked, rms talk starts in 3:05 (hours: mins), but it's in French so not sure a live feed would be worth embedding
10:55 schestowitz-TR; I don't suppose many readers grasp french even at the rms level
10:58 schestowitz-TR; I've just checcked, rms talk starts in 3:05 (hours: mins), but it's in French so not sure a live feed would be worth embedding
10:58 schestowitz-TR; I don't suppose many readers grasp french even at the rms level
10:58 schestowitz-TR; I've chedked 2 online venn diagramming tools (JS, obv.), both crap and unfit for purpose
10:58 schestowitz-TR; I might just bake it like a pie from scratch in GIMP
10:58 schestowitz-TR; while it's important to crush not only Microsoft but also Microsoftism ("ex" staff), we must also look at the broader
10:59 schestowitz-TR; picture
10:59 schestowitz-TR; to me, Microsoft looks a lot weaker than in 2006 when Windows was EVERYWHERE
10:59 Techrights-sec; use layers for that
10:59 Techrights-sec; Not enough is done in the world to counter the damage from "former" microsofters and from embedded sales reps on company salar
10:59 Techrights-sec; y but working against the
10:59 Techrights-sec; company to the nenefit of M$
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11:02 schestowitz-TR; you might not like me saying that, but in our company we don't have THAT threat but a few "MacDiots" and people
11:02 schestowitz-TR; who worship clown everything
11:02 schestowitz-TR; that mindset too needs eradicating
11:02 schestowitz-TR; I recognise that in other companies Microsoftism is a bigger problem
11:02 Techrights-sec; clown is a problem two , but as harmful as it is it is nonetheless a smaller
11:02 Techrights-sec; threat than M$ and its minions
11:04 schestowitz-TR; I will use layers
11:04 schestowitz-TR; I think I might later get small icons for companies to represent examples of the threat, without many words
11:04 Techrights-sec; TM just hiccupped
11:06 schestowitz-TR; I did not notice, thanks for keeping an eye
11:06 schestowitz-TR; I have been managing to post a ton of updates there lately
11:06 schestowitz-TR; I cannot say anything good about lzer's editorial choices of late
11:06 schestowitz-TR; very drunk at the wheel
11:06 schestowitz-TR; broken URLs
11:06 schestowitz-TR; links to links
11:06 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft promotion
11:06 schestowitz-TR; total OT stuff
11:06 schestowitz-TR; makes you wonder
11:06 schestowitz-TR; slashdot is a farce
11:06 Techrights-sec; I didn't have time to check the cause
11:06 Techrights-sec; :(
11:07 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, The whole idea of wireless connectivity is pretty bad too in consumer electronics.
11:08 DaemonFC; Usually it doesn't function well even with "premium" brands. They want you to use proprietary software which they clearly won't always support.
11:08 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: yes, I considered moving to ethernet
11:08 DaemonFC; In the case of Bose, it's that stupid SoundTouch model which bolts on a huge thing to the underside of your Wave system, and then wants smartphone apps.
11:08 schestowitz-TR; but it would look ugly and messy
11:09 DaemonFC; The reviewers I was looking at said the app was a clunky mess. It made them spend hours just doing firmware updates on the SoundTouch before it even worked, and then they had dropouts and disconnects.
11:09 DaemonFC; But the Bluetooth worked.
11:09 DaemonFC; Why should I have to pay another $150 for a huge bolted-on dock just to get fucking Bluetooth!?
11:11 schestowitz-TR; OK, I will use squares rather than circles
11:11 schestowitz-TR; easier to edit and more suitable when some are subthreats
11:11 schestowitz-TR; this morning's gz files are OK
11:11 schestowitz-TR; inc. wiki
11:11 schestowitz-TR; I might spend more time working on the wiki
11:11 schestowitz-TR; maybe soon some upgrades too, but with this software when you upgrade you get unwanted and dangerous features
11:11 schestowitz-TR; more js, xss, more things that can go wrong
11:11 schestowitz-TR; like people uploading scripts
11:13 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Like, this dock is something you can't remove later and if there's a new Bluetooth spec, you can't upgrade to it.
11:13 DaemonFC; So you'd be stuck with it, and it costs more and is bulky.
11:13 DaemonFC; It's crazy.
11:13 DaemonFC; You could just get a 3.5 mm splitter, turning the Aux In into two things, and then plug in a Bluetooth receiver to one of them.
11:14 DaemonFC; They sell them for cars and older stereos for like $25-50.
11:14 DaemonFC; They did a really good radio but I don't think whoever did the SoundTouch model really put a lot of care into it.
11:15 DaemonFC; That's probably why longtime Bose customers are complaining about the innovation stopping when Amar Bose died.
11:15 DaemonFC; I couldn't imagine he'd be happy with what the Wave IV SoundTouch model does.
11:16 DaemonFC; You could easily build in Bluetooth at no extra charge and have one model of radio and not increase the size at all.
11:16 DaemonFC; It's not like Bluetooth chips are big or produce a lot of heat or are power hogs.
11:17 DaemonFC; If I had to name another example of a company behaving this way, it would have to go back into the 90s with Sega.
11:17 DaemonFC; They released way too many adapters for their consoles, and the Genesis especially turned into a "Choose Your Own Adventure" of dongles, which didn't work together.
11:18 DaemonFC; Like, you could attack a Sega 32X and have a 32-bit Genesis system, but then you had to use cartridges, which could not fit complex games.
11:18 DaemonFC; Or you could use a Sega CD, and have CD-ROM games that could be very big, but were limited to the processing capabilities of the base system.
11:19 DaemonFC; If they had released one adapter that plugged into the cartridge port and did both and retailed for $99, they could have killed Nintendo.
11:19 DaemonFC; Just absolutely killed them.
11:21 DaemonFC; Then you had compatibility with the old system by removing the adapter, or an entirely new console that used the original one for co-processors, by plugging it in.
11:21 DaemonFC; You know, I could have done better as a CEO than the one they had.
11:22 DaemonFC; "Get in there and give me something that does this, this, and this. We'll sell it at cost, and then we'll make a whole heap of money on games when the customer realizes that our system is faster than Nintendo's with better graphics, for half the money, and will be for 5 more years at least!"
11:23 DaemonFC; Backwards compatibility was something that nobody did back then, and absolutely nobody was going to give you what was essentially a brand new console for $99.
11:24 DaemonFC; What Bose is doing with the SoundTouch is a middle finger to customers who want basic wireless functionality that all of their competitors have in the base model mini Hi-Fi market.
11:24 DaemonFC; They need to do something about this eventually or they're cooked.
11:26 DaemonFC; As for jsut passing along the raw files, I get that, but DLNA or something is a better choice than a proprietary app.
11:26 DaemonFC; I could set up DLNA in less than five minutes.
11:26 DaemonFC; And the protocol doesn't change in incompatible ways or get discontinued like some app in Google Play will.
11:31 schestowitz-TR; yes
11:32 schestowitz-TR; Upgrades might be good if they are not a trojan for more JS
11:32 Techrights-sec; yes
11:32 Techrights-sec; Upgrades might be good if they are not a trojan for more JS
11:32 schestowitz-TR; atm I think splitting it into several charts would work better
11:32 schestowitz-TR; to avoid text becoming too small
11:32 schestowitz-TR; I can refine these easily, I keep it simple with all plain text aside in a text editor
11:41 Techrights-sec; yes venn diagrams work best with just two or three main sets, it ca
11:41 Techrights-sec; can get too complicated to visualize otherwise
11:42 schestowitz-TR; I will share a crude draft first
11:42 schestowitz-TR; I think several charts can be interconnected via BLOB -> see chart 2 for blob's context
11:42 schestowitz-TR; like an expanding magicbox
11:43 Techrights-sec; ack
11:44 schestowitz-TR; in turn, each box can get a number
11:44 schestowitz-TR; and that number than has a list of icons aside, or names of companies
11:44 schestowitz-TR; easier to update these
11:44 schestowitz-TR; as time goes by
11:44 DaemonFC; In the early 90s, Sega was a household name with millions and millions of installed units.
11:45 DaemonFC; Pitching a $99 upgrade would have worked had the upgrade deck been well planned.
11:45 DaemonFC; The annual expected failure rate for a Genesis console was so low that many of them still work fine today.
11:47 DaemonFC; The fact that the Genesis was still going strong years after Nintendo released the SNES showed that the Genesis was originally designed pretty well.
11:47 DaemonFC; Sega really began running into trouble with the Saturn.
11:47 DaemonFC; By the time they gave up on adapters and retired the Genesis and got the Saturn on the market, Nintendo had the 64 and Sony had the Playstation.
11:48 DaemonFC; Sega was always a few years ahead of their competitors, but their competitors used FUD and vaporware to keep people on the fence about buying someone else's console.
11:48 DaemonFC; I think the XBOX was a success because Microsoft had plenty of practice with that already.
11:50 DaemonFC; The original XBOX got off to a really bad start and it was still more than another year AFTER it launched (so 2003) before there were decent titles hitting the market.
11:50 DaemonFC; But they managed to deploy enough FUD and vaporware to keep people reluctant to buy the Dreamcast, which was out in 1998.
11:51 DaemonFC; Microsoft's original plan was to buy Nintendo.
11:51 DaemonFC; They couldn't get anyone at Nintendo to even talk to them about it.
11:52 DaemonFC; The plan to buy Nintendo was really a threat.
11:52 DaemonFC; They figured if Nintendo didn't sell, they could just destroy them.
11:52 DaemonFC; The only console I have right now is a Nintendo Switch.
11:52 DaemonFC; It does not overpower the others by any means, but that's fine. I like the games better.
11:53 DaemonFC; Microsoft and Sony play to the crowd that respond to computer specifications over how many decent titles the system has and what each one shall cost.
11:54 DaemonFC; There's unfortunately a market for that, but they're slugging it out between themselves because the Switch is plenty of fun and people realize it.
12:19 schestowitz-TR; ok, check the png on /home/roy/ on your device
12:20 schestowitz-TR; I'm sure many more can be added
12:20 schestowitz-TR; this is focused on some clusters of threats
12:20 schestowitz-TR; no numbers, companies, examples... yet
12:20 schestowitz-TR; those can be added as editable text, where topology does not matter
12:22 schestowitz-TR; there are less than 24 labels to add in total, so can use A-Z for legend
12:38 schestowitz-TR; I have just uploaded a newer version with legend added
12:51 Techrights-sec; ack
12:51 Techrights-sec; checking
12:51 Techrights-sec; way to "busy" to interpret, are these groupings?
12:51 Techrights-sec; maybe a plain HTML table would be better if these are groupings
12:51 Techrights-sec; In the disenfrachisement category, "complexity" could be added
12:51 Techrights-sec; "entrapment" could be "decommodification", since it was used so much in the
12:51 Techrights-sec; Halloween documents or maybe just "vendor lock-in"
12:51 Techrights-sec; The font size needs to be consistent within each block
12:53 schestowitz-TR; OK, I think we'll focus on text then
12:53 schestowitz-TR; and the visual chart will be secondary
12:53 schestowitz-TR; I was thinking
12:53 schestowitz-TR; use h1-h4
12:53 schestowitz-TR; for levels
12:53 schestowitz-TR; list the item
12:53 schestowitz-TR; then give a list of companies
12:53 schestowitz-TR; as links to pages inside the wiki
12:54 schestowitz-TR; and then they can be alluded by by "letter" for the "map"
12:54 schestowitz-TR; I'll go draft something...
12:54 schestowitz-TR; hang on...
12:54 schestowitz-TR; (coffee in percolator)
12:54 Techrights-sec; ack
12:55 schestowitz-TR; charts would be PITA to update in the long run anyway
12:55 schestowitz-TR; usually a one-off
12:55 schestowitz-TR; so the meat will be in text and links
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13:09 Techrights-sec; ok
13:09 Techrights-sec; maybe even a hierarchical DL in HTML ?
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13:18 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wiki/High-Priority_Opponents
13:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | High-Priority Opponents - Techrights
13:20 Techrights-sec; The graphic is not really usable
13:20 Techrights-sec; The TOC works better though
13:22 schestowitz-TR; yes, the graphics was a fast, crue attemp
13:22 schestowitz-TR; crude
13:22 schestowitz-TR; shall we add a list of Examples:
13:22 schestowitz-TR; with list of companies linking to the wiki?
13:22 schestowitz-TR; some companies need a NEW pages in the wiki
13:22 schestowitz-TR; as a sort of mnemonic at the last
13:22 schestowitz-TR; a lot of this is a mental exercise in 'mapping' the threat
13:22 schestowitz-TR; so we can properly respond
13:22 Techrights-sec; probably better without it for the time being, it is a hard visualization
13:22 Techrights-sec; to produce
13:22 Techrights-sec; Yes, some examples under each line item would help, possibly with links
13:22 Techrights-sec; to the relevant wiki pages
13:29 schestowitz-TR; biab
13:29 schestowitz-TR; we have no wikip page for "Google"
13:29 schestowitz-TR; if we start one, what to have in it?
13:29 Techrights-sec; no need to add it yet, for the time being just link to any existing, relevant
13:29 Techrights-sec; wiki pages
13:30 schestowitz-TR; I put aside a list ot topics/companies for which a wiki page would help
13:30 schestowitz-TR; it can even link to similar pages from rms
13:30 schestowitz-TR; he keeps list of articles demonstrating bad things they do
13:38 Techrights-sec; ack
13:38 Techrights-sec; google got so bad they've started nym shifting (alphabet, etc)
13:41 schestowitz-TR; good call, microsoft took another approach
13:41 schestowitz-TR; grab lots of companies, use them for graft (e.g. hololens)
13:41 schestowitz-TR; and try to ensure people do not associate them with the real operator
13:41 schestowitz-TR; skype, github, linkedin, minecraft...
13:41 schestowitz-TR; also, it is a hack against antitrust enforcement
13:41 schestowitz-TR; they preactively "split" themselves
13:41 schestowitz-TR; and even have multiple CEOs, like Paul at Red Hat
13:41 schestowitz-TR; the media does the same
13:41 schestowitz-TR; one company, many tentacles
13:41 schestowitz-TR; so you don't realise who controls the channels
13:41 schestowitz-TR; or when you order water and orange juce at a fast food chain but those too are controlled by Coke (or Pepsico)
13:41 schestowitz-TR; soon enough there will be a lot more genders than corporations
13:42 Techrights-sec; yes M$ works by porxy as much as they can get away with
13:42 Techrights-sec; a duopoly; coke and pepsie basically take turns on the display case
13:42 Techrights-sec; :/
13:47 schestowitz-TR; I've just complted a quic, crude, first pass for examples
13:47 schestowitz-TR; might need to add a few words to explain the threats and maybe break down further
13:47 schestowitz-TR; as we see fit, over time...
13:53 schestowitz; I am now adding more in http://techrights.org/wiki/High-Priority_Opponents#Other_Threats_.28Peripheral.29
13:53 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | High-Priority Opponents - Techrights
13:53 schestowitz; I think we will use this page for reference a lot in the coming years, once it's a lot more polished...
13:55 schestowitz-TR; I've just noted that the gates foundation wqiki page approaches 1m views.
13:55 schestowitz-TR; *noticed
14:00 Techrights-sec; ack
14:00 Techrights-sec; legal attacks: COC
14:00 Techrights-sec; administrivia DoS
14:00 Techrights-sec; more ruels and committees than coders
14:00 schestowitz-TR; the "legal" sectiuon has been rewritten
14:02 Techrights-sec; 1M is good, his reputation laundering budget would be interesting to know now
14:02 Techrights-sec; it was $300 M USD per year a long time ago, with Epstein and everything else,
14:02 Techrights-sec; I can't see it having gone down
14:02 schestowitz-TR; sometyimes one "bad" piece about billg can do enough damage that even 100 puff pieces won't cancel it out (IME)
14:02 schestowitz-TR; you just need to explin the key points, e.g. world's richest DOES NOT speak for the poor
14:02 schestowitz-TR; OR for the CHILDREN
14:02 schestowitz-TR; or tell us about climate change while keeping 3 kids and 4 saircrafts
14:02 schestowitz-TR; *aircrafts
14:02 Techrights-sec; Astroturfing and shilling are also a way to wear down projects, too many
14:02 Techrights-sec; project leaders seem to think that the majority of the comments are legitimate
14:02 Techrights-sec; in forums
14:03 schestowitz-TR; case of point: abuse in sourcehut
14:03 schestowitz-TR; which put drew devault in "depressive" (his word) episode
14:05 Techrights-sec; s/in/of/
14:05 Techrights-sec; yes that was one of the cases I had in mind
14:05 Techrights-sec; he may think that the attacks are from real people or represent actual opinions
14:05 Techrights-sec; rather than realizing that M$ or other group(s) are behind the *desperate*
14:05 Techrights-sec; attacks against his very successful project; he's doing a lot for software
14:05 Techrights-sec; freedom along the way, hence the pressure
14:06 schestowitz-TR; he competes with shithub
14:06 schestowitz-TR; and afaict they gained a lot of devs+projects
14:06 schestowitz-TR; that momentum needed [sic] to be curtailed
14:06 schestowitz-TR; "toxic" site
14:06 schestowitz-TR; need a "safe space" like Microsoft
14:06 schestowitz-TR; just don't be a woman and upset Alex Graveley
14:06 schestowitz-TR; you will cease to be a problem... or exist
14:08 schestowitz-TR; tasking a break from the wiki for a bit, catching up with rss
14:08 schestowitz-TR; will make pages later for 7 companies identified as needing at the very least a stub
14:09 Techrights-sec; I'll probably look at RSS tomorrow or Monday
14:11 schestowitz-TR; lots of very insightful ranrs about the state of the Net and Web in gopher and gemini space/s
14:11 schestowitz-TR; I think we must prepare for changes
14:11 schestowitz-TR; many people have sunken much effort into ticking time bombs
14:11 Techrights-sec; yes
14:36 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wiki/Google
14:36 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Google - Techrights
14:36 Techrights-sec; I wonder if a Geocities parallel can be drawn
14:38 schestowitz-TR; Now there is neocities
14:38 schestowitz-TR; but it outlived its usefulness
14:38 schestowitz-TR; except nostalgic value
14:38 schestowitz-TR; in geminispace a lot of hosting or arrangements for hosting are like geocities
14:38 schestowitz-TR; and managed siomilarly
14:43 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wiki/Clownflare
14:43 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Clownflare - Techrights
14:44 Techrights-sec; yes
14:44 Techrights-sec; I was thinkin that people build up large hosted communities for the hoster
14:44 Techrights-sec; to eventually get shut down having been bought out or for other reasons
14:44 schestowitz-TR; opriginally maybe for altruistic reasons
14:44 schestowitz-TR; but those purposes do not outlive founders
14:45 schestowitz-TR; and those who inherit it have other ideas in mind
14:45 schestowitz-TR; at least with tuxmachines we kept the original spirit
14:45 schestowitz-TR; and even removed all the ads that susan had put in there
14:48 schestowitz-TR; only two pages are now rophaned
14:48 schestowitz-TR; need a stub
14:48 schestowitz-TR; spotify and netflix
14:48 schestowitz-TR; I am going to link to the RMS pages about these
14:48 Techrights-sec; ack
15:18 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_200
15:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Cargo 200 - Wikipedia
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17:32 schestowitz-TR; my young sister is getting married
17:32 schestowitz-TR; b/f proposed today in italy
17:32 schestowitz-TR; more pressure off me re ofspring, I guess
17:32 schestowitz-TR; through my other sister my dad has just found out I want to go part time
17:33 schestowitz-TR; so at least he is aware ( a little prematurely)
17:33 schestowitz-TR; i went to the nearby electric store
17:33 schestowitz-TR; what a joke!
17:33 schestowitz-TR; the only sound systems they sell are overpriced pieces of shit
17:33 schestowitz-TR; absolute shit
17:33 schestowitz-TR; "sound bars"
17:33 schestowitz-TR; that's the fashion now
17:33 schestowitz-TR; and they cost a lot, maybe for a brand
17:33 schestowitz-TR; even the monitors are a lot more pricey than they need to be
17:33 schestowitz-TR; I think they intentionally stock it like that
17:33 schestowitz-TR; they also never have affordable peripheral
17:33 Techrights-sec; yes the sound bars are probably unlicensed Linux in violation of the license
17:33 Techrights-sec; the stock here has turned like that too. Last I checked, there were no plain
17:33 Techrights-sec; loudspeakers to be had anywhere
17:36 schestowitz-TR; sometimes rianne noticed the fast opening also, less under an hour
17:36 schestowitz-TR; "just clean the garden... and bloom it goes out of where moments later"
17:36 schestowitz-TR; *neaned
17:36 schestowitz-TR; *nowhere
17:36 schestowitz-TR; anyway, I will try to do some blog posts now
17:36 schestowitz-TR; seems EPO is pretending to be poor
17:36 schestowitz-TR; like our gov... until andrew's mom is throwing a party
17:37 Techrights-sec; yep
17:37 Techrights-sec; ack
17:40 schestowitz-TR; status:
17:40 schestowitz-TR; flying: sucks
17:40 schestowitz-TR; stores: suck (unless I really need something)
17:40 schestowitz-TR; parties: superspreaders
17:40 schestowitz-TR; I'm running out of reasons to go out, except for running (or cycling)
17:40 schestowitz-TR; sad to say this, years ago it would seem unthinkable
17:40 schestowitz-TR; I am NOT going to pay for a single speaker what a whole laptop (WITH speakers) cost me
17:40 schestowitz-TR; I still have my 1990s stereo, which works... but we use that for exercise
17:40 schestowitz-TR; of course you can never find a mouse or keyboard for a sane price there, either
17:40 schestowitz-TR; it's a bsiness decision
17:48 Techrights-sec; ack
17:48 Techrights-sec; flying has gotten progressively worse due to the security theatre degrading
17:48 Techrights-sec; both the experience of flying and the dignity of the fliers. The latter
17:48 Techrights-sec; is almost certainly the main reason it is deployed like it is.
17:48 Techrights-sec; there have to be 2 EUR worth of parts and labor in your average mouse
17:48 Techrights-sec; yet the price is many times that
17:49 schestowitz-TR; like a light bulb, it is possible to make electronics that last decades
17:49 schestowitz-TR; there has been no business incentive though
17:49 schestowitz-TR; and regulation has flatlined
17:55 Techrights-sec; the lightbulb is a good example, along with nylong stockings. The early
17:55 Techrights-sec; instances of incandescent bulbs lasted a long time. The cartel cut that
17:55 Techrights-sec; down to 2000 hours and did a marketing campaign to make it sound like
17:55 Techrights-sec; and improvement. Run-free nylons were available decades ago but the companies
17:55 Techrights-sec; which manufacture them engineer them to be ruined after a few uses
17:56 schestowitz-TR; oh, btw
17:56 schestowitz-TR; the model I bought in march is not available now
17:56 schestowitz-TR; it's the same now except 5 pounds more and HD is 128GB SSD instead of 1000GB magnetic
17:56 schestowitz-TR; I don't consider this an upgrade
17:56 schestowitz-TR; just more expensive
17:56 Techrights-sec; right. they change models every few months
18:04 schestowitz-TR; right. they change models every few months
18:04 schestowitz-TR; it keeps the marketeers busy, if companies fired the marketeers they'd have
18:05 schestowitz-TR; a lot of spare money and probably sell just as much
18:07 Techrights-sec; it keeps the marketeers busy, if companies fired the marketeers they'd have
18:07 Techrights-sec; a lot of spare money and probably sell just as much
18:08 schestowitz-TR; tbh, I'm alone in this floor so headphones serve me ok, no need to broadcast sound outwards to neighbours and rianne
18:08 schestowitz-TR; also, the sound is mp3 quality, around 128 whatsDatUnit, so no need for fancy system
18:08 schestowitz-TR; we had a decent one from ebay (35 pounds), 7 pieces, since 2013
18:08 schestowitz-TR; but it broke down last yuear
18:08 schestowitz-TR; (logitech)
18:08 Techrights-sec; ack
18:08 Techrights-sec; mp3 still sucks
18:08 Techrights-sec; the sound is highly distorted even on "high" quality files and that distortion
18:08 Techrights-sec; is amplified by the bluetooth and other shortcomings
18:08 Techrights-sec; it's hard to know which ones are good quality in advance because they are
18:09 Techrights-sec; changing (on purpose) all the time
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20:17 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.it/BryanWilhite/status/1532952299684843520#m
20:17 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Bryan D. Wilhite (@BryanWilhite): "When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions Having boasted about hardware worth as much as a house (likely in breach of FTC regulations, not just the most fundamental ethical guidelines), apparently comi http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=311124 #rxa "|nitter.it
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