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01:03 schestowitz; >>> but the tweet words are about FSFE, that is these photos and links:
01:04 schestowitz; >>>
01:04 schestowitz; >>> https://fsfellowship.eu/matthias-kirschner-fsfe-objectifies-women-valentines-day/
01:04 schestowitz; >>> (Bonnie Mehring)
01:04 schestowitz; >>>
01:04 schestowitz; >>> https://fsfellowship.eu/matthias-kirschner-fsfe-coercing-interns-to-be-photographed/
01:04 schestowitz; >>> (Olga Gkotsopoulou)
01:04 schestowitz; >> This is not a mistake. I didn't select the photo, Twitter picks up the
01:04 schestowitz; >> photos. The sentence quoted is the first sentence in the corresponding
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01:04 schestowitz; >> article.
01:04 schestowitz; > I understand you didn't tell Twitter to use that photo but nonetheless
01:04 schestowitz; > it is not the right photo for that text, if there is any way you can
01:04 schestowitz; > change the photo it would be helpful.
01:04 schestowitz; >
01:04 schestowitz; >> Either way, I think you should write about someone in Germany, FSFE I
01:04 schestowitz; >> assume, working to censor mere tweets behind the scenes. Twitter could
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01:04 schestowitz; >> take action without even telling me.
01:04 schestowitz; > I already assumed that they have silent censorship, for example, they
01:04 schestowitz; > tend to let feel-good causes go viral but if you post something deep and
01:04 schestowitz; > meaningful they don't want other users to feel stressed so they bury it.
01:04 schestowitz; >
01:04 schestowitz; > I actually warned the world about Twitter and Facebook in my comments at
01:04 schestowitz; > the UN forum, did you see the video?
01:04 schestowitz; >
01:04 schestowitz; > https://archive.fosdem.org/2021/schedule/event/free_comms/
01:04 schestowitz; >
01:04 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-archive.fosdem.org | FOSDEM 2021 - Towards free, private and secure communications
01:04 schestowitz; >> I've asked Twitter to allow me to challenge this.
01:04 schestowitz; > Having an account with Twitter, Facebook or Google only gives them
01:04 schestowitz; > credibility
01:04 schestowitz; >
01:04 schestowitz; > When you put effort into building a following on Twitter it is like
01:04 schestowitz; > fixing a house that you are renting. As a tenant, you don't get to keep
01:04 schestowitz; > the benefits of the work you do there.
01:04 schestowitz; That is a great analogy.
01:04 schestowitz; Years ago I stopped putting any efforts into such sites.
01:04 schestowitz; Whatever exists, if it requires no additional efforts, might stay.
01:04 schestowitz; >>> but the tweet words are about FSFE, that is these photos and links:
01:04 schestowitz; >>>
01:04 schestowitz; >>> https://fsfellowship.eu/matthias-kirschner-fsfe-objectifies-women-valentines-day/
01:04 schestowitz; >>> (Bonnie Mehring)
01:04 schestowitz; >>>
01:05 schestowitz; >>> https://fsfellowship.eu/matthias-kirschner-fsfe-coercing-interns-to-be-photographed/
01:05 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fsfellowship.eu | Matthias Kirschner & FSFE: Objectifying women for Valentines Day
01:05 schestowitz; >>> (Olga Gkotsopoulou)
01:05 schestowitz; >> This is not a mistake. I didn't select the photo, Twitter picks up the
01:05 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fsfellowship.eu | Matthias Kirschner & FSFE: Coercing interns to be photographed
01:05 schestowitz; >> photos. The sentence quoted is the first sentence in the corresponding
01:05 schestowitz; >> article.
01:05 schestowitz; > I understand you didn't tell Twitter to use that photo but nonetheless
01:05 schestowitz; > it is not the right photo for that text, if there is any way you can
01:05 schestowitz; > change the photo it would be helpful.
01:05 schestowitz; >
01:05 schestowitz; >> Either way, I think you should write about someone in Germany, FSFE I
01:05 schestowitz; >> assume, working to censor mere tweets behind the scenes. Twitter could
01:05 schestowitz; >> take action without even telling me.
01:05 schestowitz; > I already assumed that they have silent censorship, for example, they
01:05 schestowitz; > tend to let feel-good causes go viral but if you post something deep and
01:05 schestowitz; > meaningful they don't want other users to feel stressed so they bury it.
01:05 schestowitz; >
01:05 schestowitz; > I actually warned the world about Twitter and Facebook in my comments at
01:05 schestowitz; > the UN forum, did you see the video?
01:05 schestowitz; >
01:05 schestowitz; > https://archive.fosdem.org/2021/schedule/event/free_comms/
01:05 schestowitz; >
01:05 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-archive.fosdem.org | FOSDEM 2021 - Towards free, private and secure communications
01:05 schestowitz; >> I've asked Twitter to allow me to challenge this.
01:05 schestowitz; > Having an account with Twitter, Facebook or Google only gives them
01:05 schestowitz; > credibility
01:05 schestowitz; >
01:05 schestowitz; > When you put effort into building a following on Twitter it is like
01:05 schestowitz; > fixing a house that you are renting. As a tenant, you don't get to keep
01:05 schestowitz; > the benefits of the work you do there.
01:05 schestowitz; That is a great analogy.
01:05 schestowitz; Years ago I stopped putting any efforts into such sites.
01:05 schestowitz; Whatever exists, if it requires no additional efforts, might stay.
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04:16 schestowitz; <li>
04:16 schestowitz; <h5><a href="https://fossforce.com/2022/01/new-community-manager-at-opensource-com-to-focus-on-accessibility/">New Community Manager at OpenSource.com to Focus on Accessibility</a></h5>
04:16 schestowitz; <blockquote>
04:16 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fossforce.com | New Community Manager at OpenSource.com to Focus on Accessibility - FOSS Force
04:16 schestowitz; <p>A major open source internet destination has a new senior community manager.</p>
04:16 schestowitz; <p>In an article published on Red Hats community website on New Years Day, AmyJune Hineline introduced herself as Opensource.coms new senior community manager.</p></blockquote></li>
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08:43 TechrightsBN; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBN running phIRCe v0.75
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09:10 schestowitz-TR; I think that the general direction isn't trying to fix or stay with IBM but to sh
09:10 schestowitz-TR; ift away from that thing, one bit at a time
09:11 Techrights-sec; whose general direction?
09:17 Techrights-sec; more legible:
09:17 Techrights-sec; rpms mess things up, grub2 is IMO unreliable, yet these are important updates
09:17 Techrights-sec; $ yum check-updates | sed -e '0,/^$/d' | wc -l
09:18 schestowitz-TR; iirc, you got the whole thing running on a laptop with devuan
09:18 Techrights-sec; yes a few years ago (2018 iirc) those are all gone but I do the daily backup stil
09:18 Techrights-sec; l
09:18 schestowitz-TR; very good, thank you. I was about to back up IRC
09:21 Techrights-sec; It'd probably take a day or two but I could get it running on a laptop again
09:21 Techrights-sec; however the way is slow, clumsy, and wrong due to lack of familiarity with LXC
09:21 Techrights-sec; there are also some very important security changes needed such as
09:21 Techrights-sec; not running HTTPd as a login account
09:22 Techrights-sec; If that much work / refactoring is to be done, it would be about the same or
09:22 Techrights-sec; less work to move to a static site generator at the same time
09:42 schestowitz-TR; ack
09:42 schestowitz-TR; I have two question I wished to ask you
09:42 schestowitz-TR; 1) OSI sent a nice message to me. Can we reconcile?
09:42 schestowitz-TR; 2) should I be posting again in Twitter AT ALL?
09:43 Techrights-sec; If that much work / refactoring is to be done, it would be about the same or
09:43 Techrights-sec; less work to move to a static site generator at the same time
09:43 Techrights-sec; 1) reconilliation would require substantial reform on their part
09:43 Techrights-sec; given the direction they have chosen to head recently, thatwill be challenging
09:43 Techrights-sec; at best.
09:43 Techrights-sec; 2) no, but it would be important to fight that mark which certainly accompanied
09:43 Techrights-sec; the ban, ... BUT ... opponents do exploit silence in twitter so that abuse
09:43 Techrights-sec; has to be addressed in some way, but prefereably not in twitter itself
09:44 Techrights-sec; one reason, of many, to avoid twitter is that M$ and the others with armies of
09:44 Techrights-sec; astroturfers can effectively pull a DoS by tangling you up in admnistrivia
09:44 Techrights-sec; or bans, eventually the algorithm will kick in and there will be real difficulty
09:44 Techrights-sec; especially if the reasons for the bans are not contested, it's a pain and they
09:44 Techrights-sec; mean it to be a pain, that way twitter and those backed by the interests backing
09:44 Techrights-sec; twitter (i.e. the current OSI board companies) can speak unopposed
09:44 Techrights-sec; renting is a very good analogy, but in the case of a lot of computing
09:44 Techrights-sec; a more accurate analogy would be sharecropping
09:46 schestowitz-TR; thanks for these answers. I could barely see the text at first because of the sun
09:46 schestowitz-TR; about to start new epo series
09:48 Techrights-sec; ack
09:51 Techrights-sec; I wonder what could be done to get national news in EU countries to
09:51 Techrights-sec; pick up on the EPO? A major barrier to coverage is the inability to compress
09:51 Techrights-sec; it to soundbites and the general deference IT (bullshit) has been given and
09:51 Techrights-sec; how much it is controlled by bill's fifth columnists.
09:52 schestowitz-TR; in 2021 you wrote a short page about the situation, and it was read thousands of times
09:52 schestowitz-TR; I think such pages can help, esp. if composed for outsiders (to the system)
09:54 Techrights-sec; Link?
09:54 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO_in_2021
09:54 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | EPO in 2021 - Techrights
09:56 schestowitz-TR; see drafts, just added one
09:56 schestowitz-TR; typos very very likely
09:59 Techrights-sec; yes, such pages can help
09:59 Techrights-sec; one difficulty is that all regions and countries are engaged in races to the
09:59 Techrights-sec; bottom and people are subjected to the psychological equivalent of a buffer
09:59 Techrights-sec; overflow due to too many outrages and unaddressed scandals to manage.
09:59 Techrights-sec; social control media makes the problem worse by having each week a
09:59 Techrights-sec; tempest in a teapot for people to becoe appoplectic about for a few hours
09:59 Techrights-sec; or days before moving on to the next contrived outrage, while the real
09:59 Techrights-sec; scandalous news lies ignored completely by design
09:59 schestowitz-TR; exactly!!
10:10 schestowitz-TR; sorry, was away for a bit in kitchen chat
10:10 schestowitz-TR; talked to rianne about what we had discussed, she
10:10 schestowitz-TR; will also bring tux machines up to date shortly
10:10 schestowitz-TR; re EPO, I think we need toi rethink the publicstion modality
10:10 Techrights-sec; Thus it is very important to publish news from the staff perspective while
10:10 Techrights-sec; any staff remain.
10:10 Techrights-sec; ^ at the EPO. Already the patent examiners seem to have been culled many times
10:10 Techrights-sec; and through many means.
10:14 schestowitz-TR; tossing long videos online is not the way
10:14 schestowitz-TR; spamnil abuses me a lot
10:14 schestowitz-TR; with his single-digit (view) crapola
10:14 schestowitz-TR; there was a good number of sites that did, in the past, experiment with alternati
10:14 schestowitz-TR; ve publication methods
10:14 schestowitz-TR; rianne says confronting in twitter is still necessary
10:14 schestowitz-TR; the temptation to lose patience for it all is there
10:15 Techrights-sec; yes
10:15 Techrights-sec; It is telling that LF flushes money down the toilet on his antics.
10:15 Techrights-sec; that is part of their game, as mentioned before. Those at the top political
10:15 Techrights-sec; level all play many games concurrently. One of them is that the first to
10:15 Techrights-sec; lost composure is out. Unfortunately we are in a period of time when it has
10:15 Techrights-sec; become acceptable to engage in lies and other unacceptable behavior in order
10:15 Techrights-sec; to elicit emotional responses and thus manipulate opponents out of contention.
10:19 Techrights-sec; Why can't FSFE and FFII pick up some of the load? sw patents are a direct
10:19 Techrights-sec; threat to both groups' interests. Have they become dining clubs instead?
10:20 schestowitz-TR; ack
10:20 schestowitz-TR; not much is (in practice) left of ffii excpe my mate ben
10:20 schestowitz-TR; pieter died, too
10:20 Techrights-sec; yes that was a sore blow but institutions can recover if designed well
10:20 Techrights-sec; However, regardless of design, the stronger the person running things the
10:20 Techrights-sec; more of a vacuum they leave when gone.
10:20 Techrights-sec; I saw that as a student and decided that leaders should be judged by how
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10:20 Techrights-sec; well things run during the two or three years after their departure.
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10:20 schestowitz-TR; I find this conversation very motivational and constructive, so bear with me...
10:21 Techrights-sec; np
10:22 schestowitz-TR; processing and internalising a number of things at once, lost my marbles a bit after irc network reboot and all the rest
10:23 schestowitz-TR; btw, andy is very eager to do collabs with us
10:23 Techrights-sec; excellent! That is very good news.
10:24 schestowitz-TR; whereasd the person who taught me ipfs vanished so suddently along with his web site and email address. I do not even know how to contact him
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10:25 Techrights-sec; His series has been great and each post
10:25 Techrights-sec; has hit very important topics, in an approachable manner.
10:25 Techrights-sec; :/ that leaves a question about what to do about IPFS support in the longer term
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10:28 schestowitz-TR; I was contacted by Twitter and then by email by some "web3" company
10:28 schestowitz-TR; which says it can help us I am sceptical, but did not commit to anything
10:29 Techrights-sec; I don't know enough about either IPFS or the company to make an assessment
10:29 Techrights-sec; Apologies but I will defer IPFS questions to others. I seem to be missing
10:29 Techrights-sec; some core concept regarding IFPS
10:31 schestowitz-TR; the ts;dr version
10:31 schestowitz-TR; it is p2p
10:31 schestowitz-TR; but hashes or addresses are in circulation among peeers so no single point of fai
10:31 schestowitz-TR; lure like TPB
10:31 Techrights-sec; yes, the P2P I see, the details elude me however and those are necessary for
10:31 Techrights-sec; dealing with IPFS in practice.
10:35 schestowitz-TR; lots and lots od dht packets, about as useful as crypto [sic] cranks
10:39 Techrights-sec; cryptcurrency?
10:39 Techrights-sec; cryptocurrency == waste of electricity / CO2
10:40 SomeH4x0r; agreed
10:41 SomeH4x0r; my opinion is that Bitcoin is a failed experiment on electronic cash, which was turned into evil thing by big entities
10:41 SomeH4x0r; and it exists because unaware individuals who think it is still "decentralized"
10:42 SomeH4x0r; though really idk why do people pay for NFT
10:42 schestowitz-TR; that just lets us satirise the whole mentality
10:44 Techrights-sec; bitcoin was a very successful experiment, but it *ended* completely in 2009
10:44 Techrights-sec; what's left well that's not the experiment but simply a crowd sifting through
10:44 Techrights-sec; lab trash out on the curb.
10:52 Techrights-sec; bitcoin and other cryptocurrency: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogs
10:52 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Milk caps (game) - Wikipedia
10:52 schestowitz-TR; lol, I used to collect those
10:59 Techrights-sec; https://firstwefeast.com/drink/2016/01/surprising-history-of-pogs-juice-company
10:59 Techrights-sec; Back to EPO, I would suspect that the end game they have planned is
10:59 Techrights-sec; financialization. That would enable them to fire the staff and keep a handful
10:59 Techrights-sec; of beancounters around, with whom they share ideals and goals. One or two
10:59 Techrights-sec; patent examiners would be kept around so they could claim to be in business
10:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-firstwefeast.com | The Surprising History of Pogs, the '90s-Era Craze Sparked By a Juice Company | First We Feast
10:59 Techrights-sec; but the examiner(s) would be on a really short leash, more so than now.
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11:02 Techrights-sec; AFAIK, both Apple and M$ have changed to financialization and gotten mostly
11:02 Techrights-sec; out of their original business of hardware and marketing respectively. However,
11:02 Techrights-sec; M$ and to a lesser extent Apple retain their activities in lobbying, since it is
11:02 Techrights-sec; a necessity at that level, apple with its trillions and m$ with its debt.
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23:39 schestowitz; > Hi,
23:39 schestowitz; >
23:39 schestowitz; > Hope you had a great holiday break. Very best wishes for 2022!
23:39 schestowitz; >
23:39 schestowitz; > For me, 2021 ended and 2022 began with a 10 part series published on
23:39 schestowitz; > techrights.org, a popular site for software freedom issues.
23:40 schestowitz; > It continues the theme of living a "healthy digital life" - as much as
23:40 schestowitz; > we can.
23:40 schestowitz; >
23:40 schestowitz; > Starting ere you can probably find links to all the parts.
23:40 schestowitz; >
23:40 schestowitz; > https://techrights.org/2022/01/03/article-on-digital-rights-in-2021-part-10/
23:40 schestowitz; >
23:40 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | My Year as a Digital Vegan Part X Happy New Year: Thoughts for 2022 and Beyond | Techrights
23:40 schestowitz; > I hope _you_ are keeping very well, still happy and thriving
23:40 schestowitz; > and not letting technology drive you too crazy.
23:40 schestowitz; Re: Article: 2021 Review. My year as a Digital Vegan
23:56 schestowitz; RMS:
23:56 schestowitz; >> Packaging a program in distros is crucial for the community because it
23:56 schestowitz; >> leads to various teams that independently work on the program, and
23:56 schestowitz; >> thus have a chance to make sure it is honest. This is why free
23:56 schestowitz; >> software tends not to be malware.
23:56 schestowitz; > This does not happen in practice but it could happen.
23:56 schestowitz; >
23:56 schestowitz; > In Debian I've observed that people put more scrutiny on each other than
23:56 schestowitz; > on the code.
23:56 schestowitz; >
23:56 schestowitz; > The words used in their most recent mob outbreak can be seen as a
23:56 schestowitz; > confession that decisions are made by secret tribunals and secret
23:56 schestowitz; > (fictional) evidence.
23:56 schestowitz; >
23:56 schestowitz; > The mentality behind that needs careful analysis: they are saying "trust
23:57 schestowitz; > us because we are a distribution". Yet the moment we let our guard down
23:57 schestowitz; > and give anybody absolute trust, they will change the rules. It is
23:57 schestowitz; > human nature and it happens in every domain.
23:57 schestowitz; >
23:57 schestowitz; > Several character attack emails, including the anti-Appelbaum mob (2016)
23:57 schestowitz; > and anti-RMS mob at Easter 2021, were linked to a Pentagon employee,
23:57 schestowitz; > Paul Tagliamonte. He was pictured with the chairman of the joint
23:57 schestowitz; > chiefs. We are asked to trust all the words of these mobs because "it
23:57 schestowitz; > is Debian". In Afghanistan, when they made a drone strike on a guy
23:57 schestowitz; > transporting water bottles, the Pentagon also asked us to trust them,
23:57 schestowitz; > their anonymous experts had confirmed he was a suicide bomber.
23:57 schestowitz; >
23:57 schestowitz; > These people and their goals appear to be intent upon preventing
23:57 schestowitz; > distributions from fully achieving their potential as independent and
23:57 schestowitz; > trustworthy reviewers of code. Above all else, they are creating a cult
23:57 schestowitz; > around their name. The code, even if it is better than malware, is
23:57 schestowitz; > still second to their aggressive (anti-)social agendas.
23:57 schestowitz; >
23:57 schestowitz; >> You may be right that it doesn't particularly help on other dimensions,
23:57 schestowitz; >> but this one is a must.
23:57 schestowitz; >>
23:57 schestowitz; >> Also, we in our community use distros of GNU/Linux, so if we sponsor or promote
23:57 schestowitz; >> a program (game or not) we will want it to be packaged for our distros.
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