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beginning of new day, March 3

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1 AM, March 3

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2 AM, March 3

02:47 schestowitz-pi2; i can now say that I've 'mastered' the new workflow

02:47 schestowitz-pi2; yesterday i had many other tasks

02:47 schestowitz-pi2; associated with organising things in the house, going a few places

02:47 schestowitz-pi2; i hope i'll be able to find the tech news faster now

02:47 schestowitz-pi2; and then do artcles/videos

02:47 schestowitz-pi2; i still don't fully understand how 09.py retains or discards stories from past generation cycles

02:47 schestowitz-pi2; but i'll learn over time


3 AM, March 3

03:14 techrights[sec]; The -d option is optional but it sets the cutoff date. In a correctly formatted

03:14 techrights[sec]; feed, each item has the date of publication or update for that item. The

03:14 techrights[sec]; cutoff date defaults to 00:00 as two days ago, calculated when the script is run

03:14 techrights[sec]; If the items are older, they are skipped. The default cutoff date can be

03:14 techrights[sec]; overridden with the -d option. That's one cut. The other is that it stores

03:14 techrights[sec]; the date and time of the most recent attempt and the most recent successful

03:14 techrights[sec]; retrieval. The HTTP requests include an If-Modified-Since header so if the

03:14 techrights[sec]; feed itself has not changed since last successful retrieval, then it is skipped.

03:14 techrights[sec]; That can be overrrun by using the --force option, or at least it should.

03:14 techrights[sec]; The primary principle at work here is the time-management rule of processing

03:14 techrights[sec]; each item once and only once. The browser tracks whether you've seen the

03:14 techrights[sec]; web page linked to by the feed's item. The script tracks whether you've

03:14 techrights[sec]; loaded that particular edition of the feed. Reloading the script without

03:14 techrights[sec]; having done the manual work of checking the items will ensure that they are

03:14 techrights[sec]; hidden from view and skipped. You can reset the state by reloading the

03:14 techrights[sec]; whole OPML file, but that will be slow as it will try to bring in /all/ the

03:14 techrights[sec]; feeds.

03:14 techrights[sec]; one approach: don't re-run the script until the current page's feed items

03:14 techrights[sec]; have been reviewed

03:16 schestowitz-pi2; this is precisely what i am doing right now, based on these assumptions

03:16 schestowitz-pi2; i am failing to get some feeds, esp. google/youtube/blogspot ones

03:16 schestowitz-pi2; so in falkon i scoop up things I'd otherwise overlook

03:16 schestowitz-pi2; but btw, the abundance of sources and items now may mean i'll feel a lot

03:16 schestowitz-pi2; less guilty about 'missing' something

03:16 schestowitz-pi2; and rianne has a very similar opml file anyway, so she catches the important stuff

03:16 schestowitz-pi2; very fast

03:49 schestowitz-pi2; Latvian Foreign Ministry bans TikTok on work phones https://eng.lsm.lv/article/politics/politics/latvian-foreign-ministry-bans-tiktok-on-work-phones.a498883/

↺ https://eng.lsm.lv/article/politics/politics/latvian-foreign-ministry-bans-tiktok-on-work-phones.a498883/

03:49 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-eng.lsm.lv | Latvian Foreign Ministry bans TikTok on work phones / Article

03:51 schestowitz-pi2; irrespective of their reasons, motivations, explanations

03:51 schestowitz-pi2; this is a goodthing(R)

03:51 schestowitz-pi2; and I hope that, over time, they'll recognise those harmful programsd

03:51 schestowitz-pi2; aren't just the ones from china

03:51 schestowitz-pi2; and not only politicians are at risk

03:52 schestowitz-pi2; not every "binary" (code) is useful by virtue of merely existing

03:52 schestowitz-pi2; and usage does not imply usefulness

03:52 schestowitz-pi2; no more than vodka use implies happiness and satisfaction

03:52 schestowitz-pi2; so i feel optimism in this area

03:52 schestowitz-pi2; at 5am we'll repost ryan's followup on microsoft hiring more criminals


4 AM, March 3

04:15 schestowitz-pi2; Zuckerberg said he would "fuck them in the ear"... do you trust this sociopath? He mocked people who trusted him, calling them "dumb fucks" https://gizmodo.com/meta-horizon-worlds-facebook-instagram-zuckerberg-1850178955

↺ https://gizmodo.com/meta-horizon-worlds-facebook-instagram-zuckerberg-1850178955

04:15 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gizmodo.com | 'Halt This Plan': Senators Tell Meta Not to Open Horizon Worlds to Teens

04:16 techrights[sec]; Yes, however, it is almost like the conversations are all actively steered away

04:16 techrights[sec]; from examining the manipulation and disinformation that social control media

04:16 techrights[sec]; -- all social control media -- has as its base service. Social control media

04:16 techrights[sec]; is not service for those that obsessively click and "emit behaviors" on it. It

04:16 techrights[sec]; is a service for the large companies and the nations which pay to modified

04:16 techrights[sec]; public opinion in one direction or another, The West has not been aware of

04:16 techrights[sec]; that or else simply not acted on it while hostile entities have.

04:21 schestowitz-pi2; <techrights-news> We Found 28,000 Apps Sending TikTok Data. Banning the App Won't Help. https://gizmodo.com/tiktok-ban-joe-biden-28000-apps-sdk-data-china-1850174019

↺ https://gizmodo.com/tiktok-ban-joe-biden-28000-apps-sdk-data-china-1850174019

04:21 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gizmodo.com | We Found 28,000 Apps Sending Data to TikTok. A Ban Won't Help.

04:22 schestowitz-pi2; again, missing the point that the privacy aspects are not the principal issue

04:22 schestowitz-pi2; Saudi twitter is meanwhile siccing crazy people on women

04:22 schestowitz-pi2; and that's considered OK

04:23 techrights[sec]; Yes, I recall reports of Zuckerberg's email on the topic. Yet there was puff

04:23 techrights[sec]; piece after puff piece extolling the (perceived) benefits of social control

04:23 techrights[sec]; media and of Facebook in particular.

04:23 techrights[sec]; Every time Facebook seemed to be on the ropes, droves of articles turned up

04:23 techrights[sec]; playing on the Fear Of Missing Out, especially in tabloids.

04:23 techrights[sec]; They are only a symptom. The Biden administration is being mislead by

04:23 techrights[sec]; microsofters embedded on the staff so they are not going to be able to from

04:23 techrights[sec]; a cogent policy anyway.

04:24 schestowitz-pi2; like chris krebs

04:24 schestowitz-pi2; under trump

04:24 schestowitz-pi2; they are lots of 'ex' MSFT

04:24 schestowitz-pi2; and 'ex' IBM

04:24 schestowitz-pi2; the latter worry me a lot more

04:24 schestowitz-pi2; many left ICBM decades ago

04:25 techrights[sec]; IBM is bad but there are no redeeming characteristics of "former" microsofters

04:25 techrights[sec]; Yet they are allowed to continue to pose as IT workers because the industry

04:25 techrights[sec]; fails to police itself.

04:27 schestowitz-pi2; Mr. Kink was a Windows users

04:27 schestowitz-pi2; brought three women he had slept with to the company

04:27 schestowitz-pi2; at best, they could figure out how to put a VM on Windows

04:27 schestowitz-pi2; with his help

04:27 schestowitz-pi2; VirtualBox

04:27 schestowitz-pi2; so imagine a company of geeks turning into this trash

04:27 schestowitz-pi2; and paying $800 a month in AWS bills

04:27 schestowitz-pi2; for almost nothing

04:27 schestowitz-pi2; we already had a whole rack or two of servers

04:27 schestowitz-pi2; in the office

04:28 techrights[sec]; VMs on Windows never work out. All the time there is wasted on Windows-related

04:28 techrights[sec]; problems and never with the actual contents of the VM.

04:28 techrights[sec]; Again, microsofters posing fraudulently as IT workers. >:(

04:29 schestowitz-pi2; but, to be fair, he did work very hard

04:29 schestowitz-pi2; and even prior to this the company was having issues

04:29 schestowitz-pi2; but the key point is, you cannot run a FOSS specialists with 'hires' like these

04:29 schestowitz-pi2; we need people who can complete jobs, not blow jobs

04:29 schestowitz-pi2; and also show up on time

04:29 schestowitz-pi2; or apologise when they are late

04:31 schestowitz-pi2; i realise now I link to gizmodo yoo much giving its quality

04:31 schestowitz-pi2; it's no better than "sister" engagdet

04:31 schestowitz-pi2; inc. obvious, blatant clickbait and microsoft spam

04:31 schestowitz-pi2; spam as in, obv. PR plant

04:31 schestowitz-pi2; maybe I'll cull that out next

04:31 schestowitz-pi2; in the next round of culling

04:31 schestowitz-pi2; cnet has become a total joke, all you have to do is see the RSS outlinee... WTH???

04:33 schestowitz-pi2; OpenAI Says It Won't Steal Data From Those Who Use Its New API to Train ChatGPT https://gizmodo.com/open-ai-c

↺ https://gizmodo.com/open-ai-c

04:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://gizmodo.com/open-ai-c )

↺ https://gizmodo.com/open-ai-c

04:33 schestowitz-pi2; hatgpt-api-bing-google-ai-1850174901

04:33 schestowitz-pi2; "open [sic] heyn hi says"

04:33 schestowitz-pi2; "bill sez"

04:33 schestowitz-pi2; check what's true

04:33 schestowitz-pi2; not what microsoft proxy says

04:33 schestowitz-pi2; this is not journalism


5 AM, March 3

05:33 schestowitz-pi2; the latest Daily Links is the size I'll aim for

05:33 schestowitz-pi2; i'm getting more productive but am still adjusting

05:33 schestowitz-pi2; but what sort of excites me are the office changes

05:33 schestowitz-pi2; and the general workflow

05:33 schestowitz-pi2; as the potential is vast and now I can do this full time

05:33 schestowitz-pi2; with exercise on top (running outside, barbells indoors)

05:33 schestowitz-pi2; the health benefits of low stress levels is vast

05:33 schestowitz-pi2; and lately I've not seen many anti-Linux pieces

05:33 schestowitz-pi2; annoying news? yes. but not a lot of anti-free software


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↺ http://TechRights.org

06:57 *Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz!~roy@haii6za73zabc.irc at Tue Jun 1 20:22:10 2021

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06:59 schestowitz-pi2; <techrights-news> Were going teetotal: Its goodbye to The Daily Swig https://portswigger.net/daily-swig/were-going-teetotal-its-goodbye-to-the-daily-swig

↺ https://portswigger.net/daily-swig/were-going-teetotal-its-goodbye-to-the-daily-swig

06:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-portswigger.net | Were going teetotal: Its goodbye to The Daily Swig | The Daily Swig


7 AM, March 3

07:00 schestowitz-pi2; we've just lost the connection to the HV again

07:00 schestowitz-pi2; for almost 10 mins

07:00 schestowitz-pi2; so did other users in europe

07:00 schestowitz-pi2; so i suspect it's something to do with the war

07:00 schestowitz-pi2; but cannot prove it

07:00 schestowitz-pi2; maybe ddos vs ISPs

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07:02 mjg59_; Occam's razor, dude

07:03 schestowitz-pi2; your vpn is in ireland

07:03 schestowitz-pi2; the people who lose persistent connection are in europe

07:03 schestowitz-pi2; and there was a report about ddos

07:07 mjg59_; So (1) no I don't have a VPN in Ireland and (2) from the US I still had access to my European machines, so it wasn't that European ISPs were losing access to the US in general

07:07 mjg59_; It's massively more likely that your server hosting or one of their upstreams lost connectivity for a period

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07:32 techrights[sec]; There's an awful lot of overlap between the sites being covered in search of

07:32 techrights[sec]; links. It might make more sense to divide up the pool of sites as it does

07:32 techrights[sec]; not make sense to check the same ones two or even three times.

07:36 schestowitz-pi2; got a lot of epo material to bring "public" today

07:36 schestowitz-pi2; the pension thing on hold for now...

07:36 schestowitz-pi2; impending probe by colleague as well

07:52 schestowitz-pi2; biab, workout

07:52 schestowitz-pi2; maybe some fibre/isp is targeted

07:52 schestowitz-pi2; doesn'r matter the cause as much as the effect

07:52 schestowitz-pi2; connections from Europe to Calif can drop

07:52 schestowitz-pi2; for 2 minutes, one hour...

07:52 schestowitz-pi2; affects hungary,m germany, NL...

07:52 schestowitz-pi2; *nl

07:52 schestowitz-pi2; daemonfc dropped too

07:52 schestowitz-pi2; i asked if he used europe vpn

07:52 schestowitz-pi2; he said yes

07:52 schestowitz-pi2; has been having connection issues lately

07:52 schestowitz-pi2; but if you see an actual report/article, it would be more authorative

07:52 schestowitz-pi2; than guesswork

07:52 techrights[sec]; It may be only the UK - US connection, IIRC there are other connections

07:54 DaemonFC; I use a Netherlands VPN.

07:55 DaemonFC; I block the cookie notices in my browsers anyway and by law they can't do the tracking unless you click yes.

07:55 DaemonFC; Since the ad blocker gets rid of the notice where I can't see it to click on anything....


8 AM, March 3

08:22 techrights[sec]; When the connecton there goes out, maybe he could try traceroute over the VPN

08:22 techrights[sec]; and try exit nodes in different countries.

08:59 techrights[sec]; If all traffic goes through the VPN. traceroute can be used.

08:59 techrights[sec]; Otherwise, if only the end point of the VPN can be changed, it can be moved

08:59 techrights[sec]; around until reconnection is possible assuming the VPN itself does not go

08:59 techrights[sec]; unavailable during the same interval.


9 AM, March 3

09:00 schestowitz-pi2; gonna OTA in a moment

09:00 schestowitz-pi2; EPO internal aplenty!!

09:00 schestowitz-pi2; SHTF

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10:42 schestowitz-pi2; done

10:42 schestowitz-pi2; now working on the text

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noon, March 3

12:16 schestowitz-pi2; the po scandals are MASSIVE

12:17 schestowitz-pi2; you would THINK that MEPs and the 'media' would give

12:24 schestowitz-pi2; a shit

12:24 schestowitz-pi2; *EPO

12:24 techrights[sec]; MEPs are probably part of the problem and not just through passivity

12:24 techrights[sec]; Media avoids anything even remotely related to technology policy, in any shape

12:24 techrights[sec]; or form. That's in part thanks to the Bill and Lolita slush fund which

12:24 techrights[sec]; is used liberally to prevent such coverage lest people bring up the topic

12:24 techrights[sec]; of software Freedom.

12:24 techrights[sec]; Or of no-M$ software.

12:40 techrights[sec]; checking

12:40 schestowitz-pi2; paste by accident

12:40 schestowitz-pi2; wrong window

12:40 schestowitz-pi2; not my DE of choice

12:40 schestowitz-pi2; btw, I might only refresh [sic] rss once a day

12:40 schestowitz-pi2; to simplify my reading cycles

12:40 schestowitz-pi2; but undecided

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12:56 techrights[sec]; Once a day is probably sufficient. The feeds are generally not updated so

12:56 techrights[sec]; frequently as to warrant more often. Though the Indian news papers always

12:56 techrights[sec]; have new material throughout the day nearly all of it is not relevant in any

12:56 techrights[sec]; way to ICT.

12:56 techrights[sec]; ]

12:56 techrights[sec]; or ICT policy.


1 PM, March 3

13:50 techrights[sec]; Going to test redirection of the gallery from tm-old

13:50 techrights[sec]; Using 301 Moved Permanently, since such an old version of Apache does not

13:50 techrights[sec]; support 308 Permanent Redirect

13:50 techrights[sec]; Do you recall the status of the old nodes? I think those are complete and

13:50 techrights[sec]; can also be redirected. But there is not an index.html for the whole collection

13:50 techrights[sec]; overview.

13:50 techrights[sec]; Spot check shows that /node is not complete yet


2 PM, March 3

14:01 schestowitz-pi2; complete mirror is hard because of permalinks with url that is not "node/something"

14:01 schestowitz-pi2; and the sheer scale of that site

14:01 schestowitz-pi2; there is also the JS in the "tabs" in the page

14:01 schestowitz-pi2; which I'm not sure how to tackle

14:01 schestowitz-pi2; then printer/pdf

14:01 schestowitz-pi2; gallery was simpler and smaller

14:01 schestowitz-pi2; modern web is just very hard to manage unlike gemini

14:01 schestowitz-pi2; and there's no easy solution

14:01 schestowitz-pi2; in groklaw they zapped like 100k comments

14:06 techrights[sec]; Yes though more of the nodes could be archived.

14:06 techrights[sec]; Any thoughts on further approaches?

14:06 techrights[sec]; JS is not on the list to save.

14:06 techrights[sec]; Yes.

14:06 techrights[sec]; The "modern" web is halfway to those horrible web "apps" that have replaced

14:06 techrights[sec]; web pages.

14:06 techrights[sec]; Groklaw could have mirrored with a different option and gotten all the

14:06 techrights[sec]; comments but appeared to have elected to delete most of them.

14:06 techrights[sec]; wget on tm-old is too old to use any selection criteria and would just

14:07 techrights[sec]; get lost in loops, unlike more recent versions. But running the more recent

14:07 techrights[sec]; version from a remote machine will eat bandwidth. :/

14:07 techrights[sec]; .

14:08 schestowitz-pi2; i can think of another approach

14:08 schestowitz-pi2; i'll have a go at it this weekend

14:08 schestowitz-pi2; ut there would be loads of web pages lying around

14:08 schestowitz-pi2; having experimented with it for a while, i'll need to consider what's already there

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14:42 techrights[sec]; Ok.

14:42 techrights[sec]; On closer look, /nodes might be complete already but it wouldn't hurt to

14:42 techrights[sec]; double check.


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5 PM, March 3

17:17 schestowitz-pi2; i got very tired really fast today

17:17 schestowitz-pi2; and will go in a moment

17:17 schestowitz-pi2; but weekend gives ample time to read it and catch up

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