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01:27 Techrights-sec; $ date +" %H:%M %Z"; uptime
01:27 Techrights-sec; 01:25 UTC
01:27 Techrights-sec; 01:25:25 up 3:54, 2 users, load average: 5.85, 5.47, 5.39
01:27 schestowitz; there was an outage, wait for IRC logs
01:27 Techrights-sec; ack
01:29 schestowitz-TR; we need to redo the tmux layout, I think foir now we can
01:29 schestowitz-TR; do away with the tux machines protection script
01:30 Techrights-sec; np
01:30 schestowitz-TR; I want to clarify that I saw activity in ytalk, but aside from some load average something I did not catch a view of what exactly it was about
01:30 schestowitz-TR; then, when it was restarted ((ytalk) I said that I had lost sight of it
01:30 schestowitz-TR; then the session closed again
01:31 schestowitz-TR; hope nothing important was missed
01:33 Techrights-sec; no just the uptime output, then pressed some keys in the wrong window
01:33 Techrights-sec; I'll need to write something better than ytalk maybe this year
01:34 schestowitz-TR; OK, so nothing important missed. suffice to say, I'm, way behind schedule as was planned, but glad we lost no data, just downtime due to some idioc who pulled the plug
01:34 Techrights-sec; :/
01:47 schestowitz-TR; the tmux layoout before looked neat and all but it outlived its usefulness
01:47 schestowitz-TR; because it had been opimised for conditions and setups we had
01:47 schestowitz-TR; about 6 months ago
01:47 Techrights-sec; ok
01:47 schestowitz-TR; we need to refactor a bit
01:50 Techrights-sec; newer versions of tmux allow easier automated setup of panes
01:50 Techrights-sec; but automated setup is still possible even with outdated versions, just
01:50 Techrights-sec; with a lot of difficulty
01:50 Techrights-sec; however manual setup is probably best. I don't have too many preferences
01:50 Techrights-sec; about what goes in which pane.
01:50 schestowitz-TR; thye script you look for is in /root
01:50 schestowitz-TR; monitor-techrights.sh iirc
01:50 schestowitz-TR; thye script you look for is in /root
01:50 schestowitz-TR; monitor-techrights.sh iirc
01:51 Techrights-sec; ack
01:51 Techrights-sec; yep
01:51 schestowitz-TR; I am racing against the clock, 2:30, to finish daily links
01:51 schestowitz-TR; only had 1.5 hours of sleep
01:54 Techrights-sec; more sleep is preferable; cat naps help but at least two medium length blocks
01:54 Techrights-sec; are necessary
01:54 Techrights-sec; during a cycle
01:55 Techrights-sec; from top:
01:55 Techrights-sec; 5592 boycottn 20 0 439892 75776 16772 R 92.1 0.2 8:15.12 php-fpm
01:55 schestowitz-TR; I think we can do lots of tidying up after this reboot, which means we need to rearrange some thing regardless
01:55 schestowitz-TR; I like to use rebotos to think afresh about things
02:01 Techrights-sec; a major update is needed either of packages or the whole OS
02:01 Techrights-sec; 641 boycottn 20 0 429832 65400 16764 R 99.7 0.2 9:15.98 php-fpm
02:01 schestowitz-TR; as we did with gemini, I think we need to think of moving away from wordpress at some stage
02:01 schestowitz-TR; it's a good thing that we put the git stuff there
02:03 Techrights-sec; yes wordpress is past its prime
02:03 schestowitz-TR; bloating is part of the software modern lifecycle
02:08 schestowitz-TR; I want to think a tad more laterally thyan just cms change
02:08 schestowitz-TR; like, where does the www go?
02:08 schestowitz-TR; is www the future?
02:08 schestowitz-TR; how to best present thing?
02:09 schestowitz-TR; social control media a dead end?
02:09 schestowitz-TR; video?
02:09 schestowitz-TR; leaked docs with annotations?
02:09 schestowitz-TR; Andy has excellent insights on www and loves the videos, wants to talk to me more
02:09 schestowitz-TR; in private about ideas
02:09 schestowitz-TR; he also installed gemini and had a go at it
02:09 schestowitz-TR; as a host of a capsule that is, I still think elementary schools can teach it
02:09 schestowitz-TR; helps teach unix, proigrammer, gemtext
02:09 schestowitz-TR; not some API of some framework of JS
02:10 Techrights-sec; yes wordpress is past its prime
02:10 Techrights-sec; to often but not necessary or unavoidable part; however if a suite gets to
02:10 Techrights-sec; too complicated or bloated then refactoring is not an option;
02:10 Techrights-sec; then it has to be thrown away an started afresh; see openssl and ntpd
02:10 Techrights-sec; okI'm not sure about the WWW and don't have much of a feeling for the
02:10 Techrights-sec; pulse. A lot of 'developers' and 'researches' seem to be chasing crumbs and
02:11 Techrights-sec; leftovers from Google and Facebook and, to a lesser extent, Wikipedia.
02:11 Techrights-sec; It is mainly the first two which are not so quietly jockeyig for a position
02:11 Techrights-sec; where they can wrest sole control over all future development directions.
02:11 Techrights-sec; Excellent, he has good thoughts and is articulate.
02:11 Techrights-sec; The lack of client packaging is holding gemini back a lot but that might be
02:11 Techrights-sec; good in that it raises the technical barriers for initial entry
02:11 Techrights-sec; It would be great for schools and a web server used to be the "Hello, World"
02:11 Techrights-sec; equivalent for networking. So the same would be for Gemini, though
02:11 Techrights-sec; the TLS requirment would require a bit of explanation.
02:11 Techrights-sec; There was a little noise about "web0" the last few days but I think it might
02:11 Techrights-sec; still be ignoring the javascript plague and infestation that needs to be
02:11 Techrights-sec; eliminated along with the corporatisms. However, I have not read in depth
02:11 Techrights-sec; on "web0" as the one author called it.
02:11 schestowitz-TR; yes,, I saw the debate about it ages ago
02:11 schestowitz-TR; lke "web3" it's not the right thing
02:11 schestowitz-TR; cranks and stuff
02:11 Techrights-sec; Unfortunately the complexity of the javascript frameworks are taking precedent
02:11 Techrights-sec; over teaching properly structured information.
02:11 schestowitz-TR; tim bl took the JS route with MS Shithub
02:13 Techrights-sec; and EME
02:13 Techrights-sec; not sure how he got so detached from the world or if they had some solid
02:13 Techrights-sec; life threatening exchanges to bring hin around
02:13 Techrights-sec; .
02:13 schestowitz-TR; lol "solid"
02:13 schestowitz-TR; pun?
02:13 schestowitz-TR; well, they could have sent him to therapists and asked for apology to Microsofters ;-)
02:14 Techrights-sec; solid as in credible threats
02:14 Techrights-sec; like what happened with durusau and sjvn and co
02:14 Techrights-sec; or torvalds or rms etc
02:14 schestowitz-TR; wait, you know why solid is a pun... right?
02:15 Techrights-sec; not yet
02:15 Techrights-sec; ah he had some gimmick named "solid" which did the opposite of what he claimed
02:15 Techrights-sec; it aimed to do
02:16 schestowitz-TR; yes! :)
02:18 Techrights-sec; fwiw Git is now backed up; that needs to be automated also;
02:18 schestowitz-TR; been a while since I last backed up ergo irc as well
02:21 Techrights-sec; I just backed up the data / archives; if I am able to set up a NAS this year,
02:21 Techrights-sec; I may be able to cache locally on it too
02:21 schestowitz-TR; reminds me I need to back up my main laptop!
02:21 Techrights-sec; always a very good idea, especially incremental backups with periodic full
02:21 Techrights-sec; backups
02:25 schestowitz-TR; anyway, two things we can benefit from
02:25 schestowitz-TR; 1) how to better shape the site for the changing times
02:25 schestowitz-TR; bear in mind I have more docs than I can publish and comment on
02:25 schestowitz-TR; wikileaks ended up mostly dumping loads
02:25 schestowitz-TR; 2) operations, e.g. how to make tmux show better, automate backups
02:25 schestowitz-TR; xrevan said something about making irc have more than one point
02:25 schestowitz-TR; of failure
02:25 schestowitz-TR; (in logs, soon)
02:25 schestowitz-TR; having freenode was very helpful
02:26 Techrights-sec; yes, there are now a few more IRC networks than just during the freenode era
02:27 schestowitz-TR; I park in 4 networks
02:27 schestowitz-TR; i theory we already shadow in LC and I can meet people there, but do not want to encourage this
02:27 schestowitz-TR; *in theory, it even logs from there
02:28 schestowitz-TR; so all those networks work in conjunction really, albeit all the activity happens in one
02:28 Techrights-sec; lc is not so desirable
02:29 Techrights-sec; are they mirrored, sort of?
02:29 schestowitz-TR; yes, fully. but not bridged
02:30 schestowitz-TR; to put it simply [network]/[channel] write/s to same file/s
02:31 Techrights-sec; is it even desirable to bridge in those cases?
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02:47 Techrights-sec; ack
02:47 Techrights-sec; ack
02:47 schestowitz-TR; noise/clutter down, signal up
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02:55 Techrights-sec; yes
02:55 schestowitz-TR; ok, now gnome3 shows me on two virtual desktops all the irc channels and a cumulative irc-monitor terminal, instead of s side screen I barely see
03:01 Techrights-sec; ack
03:01 Techrights-sec; http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-020122.html#tJan%2002%2021:
03:01 Techrights-sec; 46:09
03:01 Techrights-sec; back in a few hours
03:01 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, January 02, 2022
03:01 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-020122.html#tJan%2002%2021:46:09
03:01 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, January 02, 2022
05:02 schestowitz; [20:52] <schestowitz-TR> is he still with his brazilian wife?
05:02 schestowitz; [20:53] <Source> yeah, we talked about that because it came up that Graveley lived in Brazil
05:02 schestowitz; [20:54] <Source> Also mentioned a portuguese language film that I was disturbed by Alex's obsession with
05:02 schestowitz; [20:55] <Source> Talk to Her - about a male nurse raping a woman in a coma, but it's a romance
05:02 schestowitz; [20:55] <schestowitz-TR> gosh
05:02 schestowitz; [20:55] <schestowitz-TR> seems like we have a whols series
05:02 schestowitz; [20:55] <schestowitz-TR> not an article
05:03 schestowitz; [20:56] <schestowitz-TR> Source: Jimmy Savile dd that
05:03 schestowitz; [20:56] <schestowitz-TR> but to kids
05:03 schestowitz; [20:56] <schestowitz-TR> in a hospital
05:03 schestowitz; [20:57] <Source> It's relevant b/c Alex kept asking me to get blackout drunk to fulfill a kink
05:03 schestowitz; [20:58] <schestowitz-TR> wow
05:03 schestowitz; [20:59] <Source> Alex is a really bad dude. Nat seems to have been good at maintaining a wholesome persona publicly
05:03 schestowitz; [21:00] <Source> I'm trying to make people aware, but because i never worked at Github, journalists think it's a non-issue
05:03 schestowitz; [21:00] <schestowitz-TR> there are journalists still?
05:03 schestowitz; [21:00] <Source> good question lol
05:03 schestowitz; [21:01] <schestowitz-TR> many are cynical about what the occupation became
05:03 schestowitz; [21:01] <schestowitz-TR> even the other day my dad told me
05:03 schestowitz; [21:01] <Source> they seem to be working on all the workers rights
05:03 schestowitz; [21:01] <schestowitz-TR> a friend of his, retired journalist, was enraged about journalism becoming just corporate PR 15 years ago
05:03 schestowitz; [21:02] <Source> that's true. all the noise this week could just be giants firing shots at each other
05:03 schestowitz; [21:04] <schestowitz-TR> which publishers did you try?
05:03 schestowitz; [21:04] <schestowitz-TR> Remember Microsoft pays many for "advertising"
05:03 schestowitz; [21:05] <Source> vox, bloomberg, buzzfeed
05:03 schestowitz; [21:06] <schestowitz-TR> the first two are in Microsoft's pocket
05:03 schestowitz; [21:06] <Source> part of the issue is graveley's disinformation campaign against me has taken root
05:03 schestowitz; [21:06] <schestowitz-TR> not sure about the third
05:03 schestowitz; [21:07] <Source> vox did some reporting on the Github Nazi incident
05:03 schestowitz; [21:07] <schestowitz-TR> they usually believe the rich person
05:03 schestowitz; [21:07] <schestowitz-TR> we examine the evidence
05:03 schestowitz; [21:07] <schestowitz-TR> they also fer lawsuits (media)
05:03 schestowitz; [21:07] <Source> I guess Nat threw the female HR head under the bus and made himself the hero
05:03 schestowitz; [21:07] <schestowitz-TR> Source: but B-I broke the story
05:03 schestowitz; [21:07] <schestowitz-TR> on the nazi firing incident
05:03 schestowitz; [21:08] <Source> yeah, I think you're right. having a hard time keeping it straight
05:03 schestowitz; [21:08] <schestowitz-TR> we work with some Microsoft whistleblowers
05:03 schestowitz; [21:08] <Source> NYT, but after bad art friend, they don't look good
05:03 schestowitz; [21:08] <schestowitz-TR> they trust us
05:03 schestowitz; [21:08] <schestowitz-TR> because we don't self-censor
05:03 schestowitz; [21:08] <schestowitz-TR> NYTimes is a mixed bag
05:03 schestowitz; [21:08] <schestowitz-TR> they're harder to bribe
05:03 schestowitz; [21:09] <schestowitz-TR> you can only keep them silent some of the time, not all the time
05:03 schestowitz; [21:09] <schestowitz-TR> Gates bribed The Verge to fire a reporter who worked with us
05:03 schestowitz; [21:09] <schestowitz-TR> on a story exposing Gates Foundation abuses like 8 years ago
05:03 schestowitz; [21:09] <Source> jesus
05:03 schestowitz; [21:09] <schestowitz-TR> he eventually went too far
05:03 schestowitz; [21:10] <schestowitz-TR> now a lot more people know the RealBill
05:04 schestowitz; [21:10] <schestowitz-TR> Real Deal
05:04 schestowitz; [21:10] <schestowitz-TR> Bill also bribed by boss
05:04 schestowitz; [21:10] <schestowitz-TR> it didn't work
05:04 schestowitz; [21:10] <Source> well, sounds like I finally have some answers
05:04 schestowitz; [21:10] <schestowitz-TR> it happened just after I had started my series about the arrest at his home
05:04 schestowitz; [21:10] <schestowitz-TR> read up on what Weinstein
05:04 schestowitz; [21:10] <schestowitz-TR> did to media
05:04 schestowitz; [21:11] <schestowitz-TR> and how he suppressed the story for many years
05:04 schestowitz; [21:11] <schestowitz-TR> similar tactics
05:04 schestowitz; [21:11] <schestowitz-TR> woman-shaming
05:04 schestowitz; [21:11] <Source> I used to work in disinfo research
05:04 schestowitz; [21:11] <schestowitz-TR> spying on them
05:04 schestowitz; [21:11] <schestowitz-TR> spiking stories etc.
05:04 schestowitz; [21:11] <schestowitz-TR> they had to group in large numbers to break the media silence
05:04 schestowitz; [21:11] <Source> I'm aware of a lot of the mechanics
05:04 schestowitz; [21:11] <schestowitz-TR> there are agencies for this
05:04 schestowitz; [21:11] <schestowitz-TR> 'consultant'
05:04 schestowitz; [21:11] <schestowitz-TR> 'crisis management'
05:04 schestowitz; [21:12] <Source> yeah... there's lots of women that don't want to talk about what Alex did to them
05:04 schestowitz; [21:12] <schestowitz-TR> Weinstein hired spies
05:04 schestowitz; [21:12] <Source> TallPoppy
05:04 schestowitz; [21:12] <schestowitz-TR> now more people know about Gamma Group, NSO Group etc.
05:04 schestowitz; [21:12] <Source> TallPoppy is trying to turn that into a service
05:04 schestowitz; [21:13] <schestowitz-TR> do you have written correspondence with those publishers?
05:04 schestowitz; [21:13] <schestowitz-TR> we should do a part or two about their role in covering up for the powerful interests
05:04 schestowitz; [21:13] <Source> yes
05:04 schestowitz; [21:13] <schestowitz-TR> good
05:04 schestowitz; [21:13] <schestowitz-TR> Chelsea Manning tried WashPo (now Bezos) and NYTimes
05:04 schestowitz; [21:14] <schestowitz-TR> they were not interested in war crimes
05:04 schestowitz; [21:14] <schestowitz-TR> so Chelsea (Brad back then) went to Wikileaks
05:04 schestowitz; [21:14] <Source> I don't think Dropbox has dirty hands. They just wanted his patents and fired him for abuse
05:04 schestowitz; [21:14] <schestowitz-TR> and now people know this and remember this
05:04 schestowitz; [21:14] <schestowitz-TR> Dropbox had or still has Condy Rice on the Board
05:04 schestowitz; [21:14] <schestowitz-TR> it's not a lovey-dovey company
05:04 schestowitz; [21:14] <schestowitz-TR> they also work for the NSA as informant
05:04 schestowitz; [21:15] <schestowitz-TR> with direct data access to NSA
05:04 schestowitz; [21:15] <schestowitz-TR> based on PRISM leaks (2013)
05:04 schestowitz; [21:15] <Source> something something elasticsearch
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09:00 schestowitz; <li>
09:01 schestowitz; <h5><a href="https://www.windowscentral.com/tired-windows-its-time-give-linux-try">Tired of Windows? It's time to give Linux a try.</a></h5>
09:01 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.windowscentral.com/tired-windows-its-time-give-linux-try">Tired )
09:01 schestowitz; <blockquote>
09:01 schestowitz; <p>It's been a full two years since I wrote about how Linux is now a viable OS for PC gaming and in that time a lot has changed. The open-source desktop OS isn't just for gaming. It's also great for a bunch of other computing tasks one usually does on Windows or even macOS. After using Windows for more than two decades, I find myself no longer able to put up with it.</p></blockquote></li>
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