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03:46 schestowitz-TR; in the home directory, you will find a new director, entitled accounting
03:46 schestowitz-TR; a week ago a new financial disclosure was quietly released (as I was expecting (end of July each year)
03:46 schestowitz-TR; I've included this latest one, plus the one from the year prior
03:46 schestowitz-TR; the 4 PNG files show (top) last year's and this year's, comparing analogous pages
03:46 schestowitz-TR; /home/roy/ on your machine
04:21 schestowitz-TR; I've configured git messaging, I'll not get system bell when git-tm has "pushed" changes (I'll NOW)
04:50 schestowitz-TR; since the qemu fix no bad backups, nothing in dmesg. see TR posts re uefi and linuxtoday.
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08:18 Techrights-sec2; otr: I'm not an accountant, I don't know how to read those numbers but they
08:18 Techrights-sec2; otr: seem like they are running out of money based on one of the lines
08:19 Techrights-sec; What method did you use for Git messaging? I think we are the first on the net
08:19 Techrights-sec; to have used standard "IoT" messaging. At least no one else has written about
08:19 Techrights-sec; using MQTT+TLS with Git.
08:20 Techrights-sec; Which one is about UEFI?
08:20 *Techrights-sec2 is now known as ts2
08:24 schestowitz-TR; re otr, yes, I made a mistake after rebooting, window in wrong channels
08:24 schestowitz-TR; the one about job offers from MSFT
08:24 Techrights-sec;
08:24 Techrights-sec; ack
08:24 Techrights-sec; np
08:24 Techrights-sec; checking
08:26 Techrights-sec; I saw that one but it did not mention UEFI by name. Important tidbit to have
08:26 Techrights-sec; documented there. It also means that he is in some kind of contact with M$ or
08:26 Techrights-sec; at least viceversa and that his work is attractive to M$ goals
08:26 Techrights-sec; ^s/his work/controlling his work/
08:29 schestowitz-TR; it is a URL
08:29 schestowitz-TR; re accounting, yes, I agree, but did not want to give that away upfront
08:29 schestowitz-TR; and it does not surprise me, hence our decision even prior to the meetings
08:29 schestowitz-TR; the calibre of client changed, as did the nature of the work
08:35 Techrights-sec; Can I talk you into looking at roy-monitor-git-with-mqtt.tar.gz ?
08:35 Techrights-sec; :)
08:35 Techrights-sec; checking
08:35 Techrights-sec; adding additional --topic options is possible so as to monitor multiple
08:35 Techrights-sec; services
08:35 Techrights-sec; each service can publish to its own topic, right now we just have two
08:35 Techrights-sec; I though TLSv1.3 was in use there?
08:35 Techrights-sec; Oh
08:35 Techrights-sec; mosquitto_sub --topic foo ... | tee -a /dev/stderr | awk ... | espeak
08:35 schestowitz-TR; I am already using that
08:35 schestowitz-TR; see git changes
08:35 schestowitz-TR; I did about 5 pushes overnight to test with
08:35 schestowitz-TR; mostly robots.txt
08:35 schestowitz-TR; I had to change to tls 1.2
08:35 schestowitz-TR; debian 10
08:37 Techrights-sec; I've had to expand my desktop to 6 panels now, there are so many subprojects
08:37 Techrights-sec; going on
08:37 Techrights-sec; something is wrong with the current usage, your session keeps trying to do
08:37 Techrights-sec; redundant connections. checking ...
08:38 schestowitz-TR; it is not wrong, at the moment it does both the old and the new approach, but I will alter the frequency of the latter
08:38 schestowitz-TR; it's on a visible screen, the other is for system bell etc.
08:38 Techrights-sec; but is mosquitto_sub being run once or in a loop? It should be run once and
08:38 Techrights-sec; left to wait.
08:39 schestowitz-TR; it runs only once, outside the loop
08:40 Techrights-sec; somehow it appears to be in a loop and while one is running another tries
08:40 Techrights-sec; (unsuccessfully) to usurp the connection.
08:40 schestowitz-TR; see daily-linux.sh in git
08:40 Techrights-sec; The loop is about 1 second long.
08:47 Techrights-sec; $ find tuxmachines.org/ -type f -name 'daily-linux.sh' -print | wc -l
08:47 Techrights-sec;
08:47 Techrights-sec; found it, it is in the 'wrong' repository, checking
08:47 Techrights-sec; somehow it is going off every second, when run standalone, monitor-git.sh
08:47 Techrights-sec; will just wait
08:47 Techrights-sec; can you try stopping the daily-links.sh script for bit and try running
08:47 Techrights-sec; monitor-git.sh by itself?
08:47 Techrights-sec; thanks
08:52 Techrights-sec; see :/var/log/mosquitto/mosquitto.log
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14:32 schestowitz-TR; hi
14:32 schestowitz-TR; good news: they found the issues with the underwater cable and fixed it afaik
14:32 schestowitz-TR; I spoke to thr workers, they still work on olther cablle
14:32 schestowitz-TR; bad newS: the downtime]\
14:32 schestowitz-TR; *underground, not underwater
14:32 schestowitz-TR; although the rain may have played a role
14:32 schestowitz-TR; would rather move on, not talk about uit
14:32 schestowitz-TR; lkots of catchinmg upw to do
14:32 schestowitz-TR; pi rebooted, will work tor estaore services...
14:33 Techrights-sec; hi
14:33 Techrights-sec; ack
14:54 Techrights-sec; ok
14:54 Techrights-sec; can you please check the update to Git tr-git from this morning and
14:54 Techrights-sec; try pgrep/pkill to cull the multiple background processes?
14:54 Techrights-sec; commit : dd083557d76d542d39c46dc79478b59570899b4d
14:55 schestowitz-TR; I cannot seem to reboot the pi from d card
14:55 schestowitz-TR; could the outage have ruined it?
14:55 schestowitz-TR; I did some better coverage of the pi while down
14:55 schestowitz-TR; like enclosures and all
14:55 schestowitz-TR; but why shuld the sd card be affected?
14:55 schestowitz-TR; many a number of sequential outages ruined it?
14:55 schestowitz-TR; I have backup from a few days ago, but only for /home/*
15:02 Techrights-sec; I'm not sure, the system on the card should generally not be affected by an
15:02 Techrights-sec; unclean shutdown. It would require a fsck on boot up. Maybe you can try
15:02 Techrights-sec; fsck on the EXT partition there via another machine. Do you have an adaper
15:02 Techrights-sec; still?
15:05 schestowitz-TR; yes, let me try
15:05 schestowitz-TR; what command btw?
15:06 Techrights-sec; I'm not sure off the top of my head but it would be fsck and then the parition's
15:06 Techrights-sec; device
15:06 Techrights-sec; be sure not to fsck the wrong partition or the wrong device
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15:15 schestowitz-TR; I can get dmesg to see it, i run fsck anbd e2fsck
15:15 schestowitz-TR; but it complaints about superblock not being found
15:15 schestowitz-TR; I can try to see if rianne's pi can boot this sd card
15:15 Techrights-sec; hmm. reading online about it
15:15 Techrights-sec; ok
16:15 schestowitz-TR; the pi now runs off the USB clone
16:15 schestowitz-TR; but it's very slow
16:15 schestowitz-TR; same as with rianne
16:15 schestowitz-TR; even on USB3 port
16:15 schestowitz-TR; one option is, clone this system to another SD card
16:15 schestowitz-TR; then boot from that
16:15 schestowitz-TR; then copy across from backup, which is maybe 2 days old
16:15 schestowitz-TR; even then it would be out of date a bitkaniini said sd cards are not reliable
16:15 schestowitz-TR; and my experience has been the same
16:15 schestowitz-TR; though I cannot say for sure the outages led to thir
16:15 schestowitz-TR; and maybe I can still recover this one?
16:16 Techrights-sec; yes most people would agree with that assessment
16:16 Techrights-sec; you could boot from USB stick. It might be worth it to keep the data on a
16:16 Techrights-sec; separate device. /home/ on a separate stick
16:23 Techrights-sec; probably did you try to use the superblock backup?
16:26 Techrights-sec; "Recover superblock on ext4 filesystem"
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16:34 schestowitz-TR; yes, I tried all the above, both manuals, from 2 laptops
16:34 schestowitz-TR; not erven getting close
16:34 schestowitz-TR; I am thinking, what if I just keep it on USB, which is slow, then backup to external sd card periodically?
16:34 schestowitz-TR; I think on / (not /home) the main missing stuff is the scripts for changing throttle mode for ipfs
16:34 schestowitz-TR; for the other files, I can resotr eto a recent snapsho
16:34 schestowitz-TR; and then copy across some missing files
16:34 schestowitz-TR; I think this would be doable
16:36 Techrights-sec; both could be backed up. One option might be to have all four USB ports in
16:36 Techrights-sec; use, but have two offline. Two for the system and two for the data. Or
16:36 Techrights-sec; just two, one for the system+data + one offline as a mirror. Or along those
16:36 Techrights-sec; lines, I wonder if it is possible to have a RAID1 system, as in the whole system?
16:36 Techrights-sec; Preliminarily it looks like it is possible in general, the question is how and
16:36 Techrights-sec; how, specifically on the RPi.
16:36 Techrights-sec; https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=306729
16:36 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-forums.raspberrypi.com | Root partition on RAID1 storage - Raspberry Pi Forums
16:56 schestowitz-TR; let's try going back to recovery
16:56 schestowitz-TR; so when I enter the card into the laptops there is /dev/sdb
16:56 schestowitz-TR; but not sdb1 etc.
16:56 schestowitz-TR; running the comemnts suggested gives no progress
16:56 schestowitz-TR; my last backup was 2 days ago
16:56 schestowitz-TR; however it lacks very few system customisations, which we might have in git or homedir anyway
16:56 schestowitz-TR; this usb that's inside rtight now works with wifi and iptables
16:56 Techrights-sec; ack
16:56 Techrights-sec; from what I recall, USB sticks advertise a 5-year guarantee
16:56 Techrights-sec; ack
16:56 schestowitz-TR; like it did before those issues months ago
16:56 schestowitz-TR; its load average, with ipfs, is high
16:56 schestowitz-TR; but gemini and gemini proxy seem responsive
16:56 schestowitz-TR; I've move from one catastrophe to another
16:56 schestowitz-TR; and today weon't feel productive
16:56 schestowitz-TR; if I stay with usb, I can copy in from the latest backup
16:56 schestowitz-TR; then copy across more recent irc logs and bulletins
16:56 schestowitz-TR; then I'd have to redo some end of month tasks (not many)
16:56 schestowitz-TR; either way, I have some text (not important at all) that I added to the pi after backupos
16:57 schestowitz-TR; the important files were still open on other PCs, so nothing lst there..
16:57 schestowitz-TR; your call
16:57 schestowitz-TR; what to do now..
16:57 schestowitz-TR; I tried again to salvage something from sd... nowhere near close
16:57 schestowitz-TR; of course it would barely be detected
16:57 schestowitz-TR; I didn't try on rianne's pi
16:57 schestowitz-TR; but I suppose the outcome would be the same
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17:10 schestowitz-TR; should we stick with usb stick then
17:10 schestowitz-TR; and bring back in latest file?
17:10 schestowitz-TR; some stuff will have been lost with the dead sd card
17:10 schestowitz-TR; but nothing crucial
17:10 schestowitz-TR; I can tighten the screws again
17:10 schestowitz-TR; and restore it to a working state
17:10 schestowitz-TR; no more ds card
17:10 Techrights-sec; probably stay with USB stick from now on
17:10 schestowitz-TR; except for clone backup?
17:11 schestowitz-TR; that's what I shall do then
17:11 schestowitz-TR; expect some gemini and proxy downtimes while I copy across home directories
17:21 Techrights-sec; ack
17:21 Techrights-sec; another option would be to make a read-only system for the OS and have the
17:21 Techrights-sec; data on a second device.
18:02 schestowitz-TR; still coying
18:02 schestowitz-TR; i/o is slow on the usb
18:02 schestowitz-TR; for backups I can do incremental overnight
18:02 schestowitz-TR; I just don't have faith in sd cards anymore; you, kaniini, psydroid all witnessed the same
18:02 schestowitz-TR; so it would probably be a mistake to try again with one
18:02 schestowitz-TR; even if they're fast
18:03 Techrights-sec; probably; although there are claims around the net that if you get a name-brand
18:03 Techrights-sec; microSD card it will last, I have not found that to be the case;
18:06 schestowitz-TR; i guess I can consiodere myself lucks as
18:06 schestowitz-TR; a) no serioust data loss
18:06 schestowitz-TR; b) finally they seem to have found and fixed the cause of the outage (also the last one that caused
18:06 schestowitz-TR; similar pi issues
18:06 schestowitz-TR; c) I'm off work till sat
18:06 schestowitz-TR; I'll take it slowly, please bear with me and try not to give me more tasks
18:06 schestowitz-TR; I am taking things on a prioority basis
18:06 schestowitz-TR; and my dad annoys me a lot
18:06 schestowitz-TR; also I went to a soliciitor today for naturalisation
18:06 schestowitz-TR; jst to avoids staying at home
18:06 schestowitz-TR; so now I'm drowning in things
18:06 schestowitz-TR; I have some articles I'll try to publish
18:06 schestowitz-TR; right now I post links sent
18:06 schestowitz-TR; then I need to clean rss
18:06 schestowitz-TR; gemini and proxy work now,. are they respecsive from your end too?
18:06 schestowitz-TR; that's more important to me than ipfsa
18:06 schestowitz-TR; ipfs is a lost cause for this scale
18:06 Techrights-sec; excellent news on all three points then
18:06 Techrights-sec; np
18:06 Techrights-sec; I'll stop nagging for a while ;)
18:06 Techrights-sec; solicitors are stressful events
18:06 Techrights-sec; checking
18:06 Techrights-sec; gemini works
18:07 schestowitz-TR; do they work fast?
18:07 schestowitz-TR; I access them on lan so cannot judge
18:08 schestowitz-TR; I'll sync in the july 30 pages soonish
18:09 Techrights-sec; the proxy works
18:09 Techrights-sec; congratulations on restoring the system, it's always a nail-biting experience
18:09 Techrights-sec; yes quite snappy
18:09 Techrights-sec; I was surprised by how fast the proxy worked
18:14 schestowitz-TR; of course the energy provider never keps the callback promises
18:14 schestowitz-TR; and was hard to reache
18:14 schestowitz-TR; ven when you tell their machine it's an emergency
18:14 schestowitz-TR; but I have confidence that now, unlike last time, there is actual a resolution
18:14 schestowitz-TR; my last such outage (not fuse at home) was round 2005
18:14 schestowitz-TR; so I am not accustomed to this situation
18:14 schestowitz-TR; last such outage caused the pi to reboot and I ASSUME due to update (maybe NOT) it would
18:14 schestowitz-TR; not have wifi, would not mount external drive, iptables stopped working
18:14 schestowitz-TR; IIRC (not sure) I all along knew we missed something in the latest clone (USB) and it was that
18:14 schestowitz-TR; tc-2 and tc-6 throttling things with permissions set in sudoers for gemini
18:14 schestowitz-TR; but after 2 months I realise I can just leave on ipfs when I'm afk
18:14 schestowitz-TR; and wifi is no longer needed really, we changed location
18:14 schestowitz-TR; maybe we can move the gemini hosting to new techrights at some stage, at least it is RAIDed afaik (or guess)
18:15 schestowitz-TR; but then against gemini scales OK for hosting from home, so it would be a regression
18:23 Techrights-sec; ack
18:25 schestowitz-TR; thanks for the advice btw, very supportive when I needed it
18:25 schestowitz-TR; we'll cruise past this by tomorrow, the pi is not as reliable as a laptop
18:25 schestowitz-TR; but it has its many other advantages
18:25 schestowitz-TR; (the anger direacted is related to retiring early btw, but too personal for details)
18:25 schestowitz-TR; I have some good news re market share, epo not as urgent atm
18:25 Techrights-sec; np
18:27 Techrights-sec; which market desktop or server?
18:27 schestowitz-TR; draft
18:29 Techrights-sec; Android is the main system there
18:29 Techrights-sec; ack
18:30 schestowitz-TR; i will try multikasking a bit
18:30 schestowitz-TR; to feel more productive
18:30 schestowitz-TR; the power of being effective is related to stress management and omposure I think
18:30 schestowitz-TR; yesterday rianne said she never ever saw me cry
18:30 schestowitz-TR; and then described siatuations (hypothetical) and said, "would you cry?"
18:30 schestowitz-TR; we have our 10th anniverary in sept.
18:30 schestowitz-TR; maybe she'll submit the docs by then, there's no hard deadline
18:39 Techrights-sec; congratulations, in advance
18:39 Techrights-sec; it's supposedly an "aluminum/aluminium" anniversary?
18:39 Techrights-sec; or tin?
18:39 Techrights-sec; I hope the paperwork goes smoothly
18:40 schestowitz-TR; birthday this month, but last one sucked due to covid restrictions and risks
18:40 schestowitz-TR; btw, I might leave the pi perpetually hooked to external disk
18:40 schestowitz-TR; it can back up everything to it overnight
18:40 schestowitz-TR; the risk is system compromise, which unless I remove the wire is still a thing
18:40 schestowitz-TR; 3tb drive
18:41 schestowitz-TR; I am still trying to make things robuest to failure and catastrophe
18:41 schestowitz-TR; do you have a full backup of tx-new btw, inc. git?
18:41 schestowitz-TR; at least that annoying xfs issue is gone for good
18:41 schestowitz-TR; and afaik it led to no loss that I can detect
18:42 Techrights-sec; ack
18:42 Techrights-sec; you could do an "overlay filesystem" making it read-only for the system partition but that'd be a lot of fuss to update in that two reboots would probably be
18:42 Techrights-sec; necessary each time
18:42 Techrights-sec; no I do not have a full backup but I do have some tarballs of Git
18:43 schestowitz-TR; ok, good for my ptsd (ish) after today's nuisance
18:43 schestowitz-TR; didn't take it very hard
18:43 schestowitz-TR; my main concern was catching up with all the tasks as eome pile up and tehre is downtimes
18:46 Techrights-sec; and I copied the database today but that's for the next phase not a backup
18:46 Techrights-sec; oh, i was too slow in commenting, but if another similar post is done, it
18:46 Techrights-sec; would be useful to name OEM lock-in specifically as a problem inhibiting
18:46 Techrights-sec; growth of GNU/Linux on the desktop/laptop. It already dominates the other
18:46 Techrights-sec; domains: server, embedded, mobile, and supercomputer
18:52 Techrights-sec; The posts are very convenient to read on Gemini
18:52 schestowitz-TR; it is like reading email, except my email client is very bloated
18:53 Techrights-sec; I have one account which has inflicted webmail on everybody and it is hell
18:53 Techrights-sec; webmail is an unpleasant toy
18:53 schestowitz-TR; it is ok when you travel and use some public terminal
18:53 schestowitz-TR; but not a replacment on one's nature workstation
18:56 Techrights-sec; It's better than nothing but that still does not mean much
18:56 Techrights-sec; Correct, it's not a replacement for a proper client on a real workstation
18:56 Techrights-sec; One of the reasons so many now hate e-mail is that they only experience it as
18:56 Techrights-sec; either webmail or via phone. The other is that Bill's armada of botnets
18:56 Techrights-sec; spew spam 24/7, that's the technical side. On the political side, politicians
18:56 Techrights-sec; decided ~ 20 years ago that spam was the way to go. It was on the way out
18:56 Techrights-sec; until one key EU politician announced loudly that spam was "good for the
18:56 Techrights-sec; economy", she tried to walk back the comments a week later but took no real
18:56 Techrights-sec; action to make good and the floodgates opened at that point
18:56 Techrights-sec; Spam is also probably a cover for a lot of covert breaches
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