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00:50 schestowitz-TR; Covid again... gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-06-01.covid_again.gmi "I had received my fourth dose just on May 19th and was feeling somewhat bulletproof.... That, to me, is the symptom unique to covid. I don't know if I am physiologically weird as I haven't heard anyone mention that."

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07:20 Techrights-sec; server cert is expired, for gemini link

07:20 Techrights-sec; tails 5.1 seems delayed by several days with no public announcements

07:21 schestowitz-TR; if they released on time, none of the FUD makers would have noticed anyway

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07:34 Techrights-sec; FUD makers work 24/7 against both Tor and Tails regardless

07:35 schestowitz-TR; it is worth repating again and again that Tor is used extensively to EXPOSE crime, not COMMIT crime

07:36 schestowitz-TR; partly because th e rich and powerful made it a 'crime' to expose them

07:36 schestowitz-TR; as we saw in Assange

07:36 schestowitz-TR; UK had the audacity to lecture russia on free flow of info this week

07:42 Techrights-sec; They're still kicking Assange around

07:43 schestowitz-TR; as i put it in yetserday in irc

07:43 schestowitz-TR; "we came, we saw, he died... well, he's dead"

07:43 schestowitz-TR; sociopaths want to see deaath sometimes

07:43 schestowitz-TR; reaffirms their power

07:51 schestowitz-TR; waiting for data to become available

07:51 schestowitz-TR; it'll be a bloodbath

07:51 schestowitz-TR; frankly, idg eet al should have covered such stuff

07:51 schestowitz-TR; they intentionally look the other way

07:51 Techrights-sec; the text needs to mention some brief stats

07:51 Techrights-sec; and in particular provide a number on the month-on-month downward slide

07:53 schestowitz-TR; I am waiting for the conrete number/s

07:53 schestowitz-TR; well, if I use table (html), gemini would struggle

07:53 schestowitz-TR; maybe "month: %"

07:53 schestowitz-TR; for those who cannot see pictures

07:53 Techrights-sec; key : value pairs, would work

07:54 schestowitz-TR; expect windows to be 25% or less

07:54 schestowitz-TR; i will add regional

08:33 schestowitz-TR; rant: a) what LF does upsets me. spamnil is again buying "views" (very very easy to tell and prove)

08:33 schestowitz-TR; (soem rants in today's IRC logs)

08:33 schestowitz-TR; b) not sure if you noticed, but around 5am GMT we had a momentary network issue at the server side, affecting TM and TR

08:33 schestowitz-TR; it probably lasted 2-5 mins

08:33 schestowitz-TR; I was alseep at the time

08:34 schestowitz-TR; other than that, all is well, I need topic ideas, last night's shift was last until weekend

08:34 schestowitz-TR; another rant: a asilly colleague (hannah) suggested that people work work 1-9am should be paid less than daytime because

08:34 schestowitz-TR; it's "quiet"; clearly she knows nothing about labour laws and was fending off for her partner

08:34 schestowitz-TR; but shows you what sort of dumarses we work with

08:34 schestowitz-TR; people with no actual compuiter skills, who compensate for it by talking shit

08:34 schestowitz-TR; and then having the audacity to suggest pay cuts for people who work the 200% slots

08:34 schestowitz-TR; I said, "better shut up than say something so insensitive and dumb"

08:34 schestowitz-TR; (said it to rianne, not on call)

08:35 Techrights-sec; wow what a foolish colleague

08:36 schestowitz-TR; the grain of truth, yes, our slots are a lot easier to cover

08:36 schestowitz-TR; but from a legal POV, good luck!!

08:38 Techrights-sec; stuff can still happen during those shifts and much of what they are paying for

08:38 Techrights-sec; is the availability of both skilll and experience, both of which are expensive

08:41 schestowitz-TR; yes, exactly, this is whatt he CLIENTS pay for

08:41 schestowitz-TR; on call and onsite person who can fix shit

08:41 schestowitz-TR; she cannot fix anything

08:41 schestowitz-TR; not sure if you see my IRC remarks about how they demonise the workers

08:41 schestowitz-TR; "unskilled"

08:41 schestowitz-TR; "Great Resignation"

08:41 schestowitz-TR; and you know their motivation

08:42 schestowitz-TR; those plutocrats who cannot themselves do the job

08:42 schestowitz-TR; and call their staff "expensive" or "biggest expense"

08:42 schestowitz-TR; then they buy the media to TELL US the same

08:42 schestowitz-TR; wqhy the f* would I wish to participoate in such a system?

08:42 Techrights-sec; there's often a lot of general experience needed for those low paying jobs

08:42 Techrights-sec; some of them more than others

08:42 Techrights-sec; in the experience is a lot of domain specific knowledge

08:43 schestowitz-TR; or experience with particular clients and their systems

08:43 schestowitz-TR; staff retention is key here

08:43 schestowitz-TR; rianne knows how to fix a lot of things

08:43 Techrights-sec; yes, familiarity with context saves a lot of work and time

08:46 schestowitz-TR; there is a part of me wishing to battle this "IT" injustice

08:46 schestowitz-TR; even if some of the time I'm "inside" to earn a living

08:46 schestowitz-TR; it's rather cleasr to see what's happening in general

08:46 schestowitz-TR; and wer can refine, articulate the explanation of that over time...

08:46 schestowitz-TR; if other people start talking the same way, then you know it is succeeding

08:46 schestowitz-TR; then, they perpetuate the message and do the work

08:46 schestowitz-TR; GNU did a lot of that since the 80s

08:46 schestowitz-TR; which is why so many projecfts still pick copyleft

08:46 schestowitz-TR; even nvidia will soon relase gplv2 code

09:37 Techrights-sec; reciprocal licenses have many strategic advantages

09:37 Techrights-sec; in particular the strong licenses like GPL

09:37 Techrights-sec; Eben Moglen once described the non-reciprocal licenses as the ones you want

09:37 Techrights-sec; your competitors to use. Either way. however, participants eventually find

09:37 Techrights-sec; that there is more value in working with upstream code than trying to maintain

09:37 Techrights-sec; an increasingly divergent fork.

10:11 schestowitz-TR; that goes against what's taught in "business" "school"

10:40 Techrights-sec; but using real monry for counters

10:40 Techrights-sec; and using such counters doesn't make the LARPing real, just harmful

10:47 schestowitz-TR; I realised it was one year, I was one day off

10:47 schestowitz-TR; the goal here is to encourage others to follow

10:47 schestowitz-TR; even if only a few

10:47 schestowitz-TR; that would be a massive accomplishment

10:51 Techrights-sec; rather than celebrate libera.chat the focus ought to be on the unfortunate

10:51 Techrights-sec; demise of freenode; freenode was great and very important for many years

10:51 Techrights-sec; but eventually its main disadvantage, that of centralization, brought down

10:51 Techrights-sec; many projects. While some moved to libera.chat, many just gave up on IRC all

10:51 Techrights-sec; together. However, some, and these are the ones to praise, started their

10:51 Techrights-sec; own IRC networks. (Re-)Decentralization is the solution to many of the

10:51 Techrights-sec; problems people associate with the Internet nowadays.

10:51 Techrights-sec; ... and congratulations on a successful first year

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11:10 schestowitz-TR; statcounter updated mins ago

11:10 schestowitz-TR; see draft :-D

11:10 schestowitz-TR; I am still reading and amending

11:10 schestowitz-TR; the company that shits bricks is now "clown" company

11:10 Techrights-sec; checking -- oops too late

11:12 Techrights-sec; no stats in summary? gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/02/turkey-in-pictures/

11:17 schestowitz-TR; oh, right, I forgot

11:17 schestowitz-TR; let me add that

11:17 schestowitz-TR; I will make ODF (ODS)

11:17 schestowitz-TR; and then some text

11:17 schestowitz-TR; , check now

11:17 schestowitz-TR; OK, check now

11:28 Techrights-sec; so Turkey is hardening itself for "cyber" warfare, apparently

11:29 schestowitz-TR; FOSSPost wrote about turkey and gnu/linux ~4 days ago

11:49 Techrights-sec; the main FOSSpost page seem blocked by javascript

11:49 Techrights-sec; ^gratuitous javascript

11:49 Techrights-sec; found it. looks like good progress but they do seem to miss the importance

11:49 Techrights-sec; of establishing open formats across the sector first regardless of software

11:56 schestowitz-TR; am writing about norway atm

11:56 schestowitz-TR; to dispute the "linux for poor people" bs

11:56 schestowitz-TR; finalised, published

11:58 schestowitz-TR; I think we hit bith EPO and msft/github where it hurts a lot

11:58 schestowitz-TR; seeing that sandbag leaves FB, you know it must look REALLY awful from the inside

11:58 schestowitz-TR; maybe sandbag and sheela zemlin can "start something new"

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12:06 schestowitz-TR; one sandbag is not enough when the FB ship is sinking

12:06 schestowitz-TR; btw, re twitter

12:06 schestowitz-TR; wot da fork is going on???

12:06 schestowitz-TR; all of a sudden silence

12:06 schestowitz-TR; also, it's not mentioned much in any context

12:06 schestowitz-TR; I think the death spiral was greatly accelebrated by Carl IMusk

12:06 schestowitz-TR; which I very much welcome

12:06 schestowitz-TR; if FB and Twitter go under, it would send a strong message to their copycats and heavy adopters

12:06 schestowitz-TR; "I used to be hung up on post counts, for some reason. On my ten year sludge through Twitter (2009-2019 (years lost forever)),

12:06 schestowitz-TR; I used to get worked up and enthusiastic about that I had 75K Tweets. It was a testament to how much time I wasted there, but i

12:06 schestowitz-TR; t was 75K of SOMETHING I had "done". Ridiculous thing to care about." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/992

12:06 schestowitz-TR; It was a testament to how much time I wasted there" -----> I posted 951k

12:06 schestowitz-TR; but back when it was a lot more busy a hub

12:06 schestowitz-TR; and in recent years I just sent nothing but copies

12:06 schestowitz-TR; didn't bother "engaging" at all

12:06 schestowitz-TR; now it seems so dead that i hardly see any replies

12:06 schestowitz-TR; even to old "tweets"

12:08 schestowitz-TR; TM was not responding or barelyt responding

12:08 schestowitz-TR; restarted httpd

12:25 schestowitz-TR; mental notes/coiredump: (when you are back, not afk)

12:25 schestowitz-TR; it might be worth putting together strategy notes on how to tackle diffetne types of issues and brands not the same thing...

12:25 schestowitz-TR; e.g. boycotts work well against brands and just saying "sofftware freedom" oversimplifies a multifaceted battle

12:25 schestowitz-TR; maybe I'll draft something for myself first...

12:26 Techrights-sec; I would agree that there are probably some responses to common situations

12:26 Techrights-sec; which could often be standardized, perhaps with variations

12:26 schestowitz-TR; so we need to outline, then factorise

12:34 schestowitz; very roguh draft

12:34 schestowitz; Amazon: cash cows include online retail business and clown computing (governments, businesses and people outsourcing to Amazon's Web Disservices)

12:34 schestowitz; Apple: overpriced "luxury" (or perceived luxury) goods, which are precarious in a weak economy with supply/demand anomalies and sanction wars

12:34 schestowitz; Netflix: rental to "content" (with DRM), akin to Spotify

12:34 schestowitz; Clownflare: unprofitable, for the same reason Uber and gig economy [sic] in general is a bit of a gamble

12:34 schestowitz; Google, Facebook and Twitter: a lot of surveillance capitalism with advertising and mental manipulation as the business model and force (YouTube does not seem to be profitable)

12:34 schestowitz; Microsoft: Like Google, a failing business in hosting (massive losses), with the same in GitHub and maybe LinkeIn (a failing competitor of Facebook). Like Skype, it's hard to extract money, so surveilance increasingly becomes the business model, even with Windows whose market share decreases and competition (e.g. ChromeOS) drives the price down

12:34 schestowitz; IBM (and Red Hat): Like HP and VMware, there's a languishing hardware and software business, with several failed attempts at hosting as a subscription-based business model

12:34 Techrights-sec; or first list the assertions which commonly need rebuttal

12:42 schestowitz-TR; as I type more I realisew Japan lost so much of its clout except in cars

12:43 Techrights-sec; amazon uses, if I understand correctly, proprietary interfaces to manage what

12:43 Techrights-sec; would have otherwise been commodity systems

12:43 Techrights-sec; so they may rent access to commodity GNU/Linux but they have definitely found

12:43 Techrights-sec; one way to decommodify it.

12:43 Techrights-sec; Similar with Red Hat (IBM). IBM has followed M$' outline from the Halloween

12:43 Techrights-sec; Documents and been able to use systemd to decommodify GNU/Linux in such

12:43 Techrights-sec; a way that it becomes so complex that their services must be hired in

12:43 Techrights-sec; so decommodification appears to possibly be a recurring theme here

12:44 schestowitz-TR; yes, openshit, [sic] ansible etc.

12:44 schestowitz-TR; they use buzzwords like "transformation" and "legacy"

12:44 schestowitz-TR; to urge you to throw shit like containes and even k8s everywhere

12:44 schestowitz-TR; then struggle to find a sysadmin who can handle that

12:44 Techrights-sec; ansible seemed interesting at first glance, but the complexity does not

12:44 Techrights-sec; give a good return on investment on learning it over whipping up some casual

12:44 Techrights-sec; custom shells scripts

12:46 schestowitz-TR; two colleagues here were fighting, sort of

12:46 schestowitz-TR; within the limits permitted

12:46 schestowitz-TR; over oone deploying puppet after tyhe other had spent/wasted a lot of time studying and deploying ansible

12:46 schestowitz-TR; me? i just get popcorn

12:47 Techrights-sec; a lot of managers, in particular, fall victim to the sunk cost fallacy. They

12:47 Techrights-sec; assert that because time and money have been spend chasing an uproductive or

12:47 Techrights-sec; dead end direction that the same path must be continued rather than cutting

12:47 Techrights-sec; losses and quickly pivoting to a useful approach

12:52 schestowitz-TR; going back on topic, as we did with novell before, it's important to look further at what comes next

12:52 schestowitz-TR; I think there's no overemcompassing explanation of the relationshiop betwen what the "brands" do

12:52 schestowitz-TR; the national identity matters because of cultural differences and demostic expertise

12:55 schestowitz-TR; Europe is, imho, laughably behind on "share"

12:55 schestowitz-TR; but I support that because

12:55 schestowitz-TR; 1) more giants does not mean more income, many are a yoke on the economy

12:55 schestowitz-TR; 2) potential for abuse

12:55 schestowitz-TR; the US wasted 1.1 trillion dollars a year on "defence" around 2015

12:55 schestowitz-TR; it must be a lot more now

12:55 schestowitz-TR; but the complete numbers are harder to find than what congress signs in public

12:55 schestowitz-TR; tesla/musk is graft, always was

12:56 Techrights-sec; one essential factor to consider is that ICT is a pawn in major war efforts

12:59 schestowitz-TR; text might be hard to digest for what I'm after, I need to look into some diagrammin g software

12:59 schestowitz-TR; doing this the gimp was will look mickey mouse-ish

13:01 Techrights-sec; gimp can do a lot if one has patience. But any program will give poor results

13:01 Techrights-sec; if one spends only 10 minutes on the graphics, or for that matter only 2 hours

13:01 Techrights-sec; Good art is usually quite time consuming and not worth the return in this context

13:01 Techrights-sec; one-off does not merit a lot of effort unless the appearance affects

13:01 Techrights-sec; the message

13:02 schestowitz-TR; maybe I can find some shitty "online" tool

13:02 schestowitz-TR; as it's a one-off

13:03 schestowitz-TR; alternative is networked wiki pages with actions of strategies for each companies

13:03 schestowitz-TR; rooted upon a type or types of threat/s

13:04 Techrights-sec; citation lists / references are good, along with relevant quotes, so that

13:04 Techrights-sec; there is link (plus quote) to cite when countering BS

13:08 schestowitz-TR; <li>thread </il>

13:08 schestowitz-TR; <li>company #1 for threat (not thread)

13:08 schestowitz-TR; linking to pages that explain what those companies do and how to counter them

13:08 schestowitz-TR; some wiki pages, e.g. "Amazon", already contain a list of articles, if I attach a numeric value to these refrences I can then

13:08 schestowitz-TR; refer to them with [list,of,posts]

13:16 Techrights-sec; it is important to keep an archive of quotes from links because they can

13:16 Techrights-sec; still be cited, in principle, even after the site itself has vanished or been

13:16 Techrights-sec; or just the old pages removed from the site

13:17 schestowitz-TR; billwatch did some of that

13:17 schestowitz-TR; in the past out publication style iuncluded a ton of blockquote

13:17 schestowitz-TR; back when more journalism did exist

13:17 schestowitz-TR; 2020 is "desert"

13:17 schestowitz-TR; OK, so I think I have an excuse to modernise the wiki or bring it up to date on some topic

13:17 schestowitz-TR; though that may mean no blog posts for a while

13:20 schestowitz-TR; there is some room for overlap with "librethreat database" from "matey"

13:20 schestowitz-TR; though he focused on inside threats

13:20 Techrights-sec; his database could be linked to periodically to refresh awareness of it

13:20 Techrights-sec; such lists age well, unfortunately

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15:32 schestowitz-TR; the wiki has many pages with names of "brands"

15:32 schestowitz-TR; there are many links to such pages

15:32 schestowitz-TR; so changing what the pages contain affects context

15:32 schestowitz-TR; however, adding a new section to these pages would not have a negative effect

15:32 schestowitz-TR; so I might do just that

15:32 schestowitz-TR; we do not have consistent templates

15:32 schestowitz-TR; tome pages are a list derived from a search, ghenerated bty "matey"

15:32 schestowitz-TR; I do not update those pages as they can be 'regenerated" to include newer posrs

15:32 schestowitz-TR; I think our wiki pages are underutilised

15:57 Techrights-sec; yes but they are high-maintenance as they are

15:59 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wiki/Librethreat_Forecast

15:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Librethreat Forecast - Techrights

16:00 Techrights-sec; in which way could they be used more effectively?

16:03 schestowitz-TR; maybe as strategy outline

16:03 schestowitz-TR; I'm still thinking

16:03 schestowitz-TR; the lazy way is, make a video, throw some text in, but it's not suitable here

16:03 schestowitz-TR; Free Software timeline (older) http://techrights.org/wiki/Free_Software_timeline

16:03 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Free Software timeline - Techrights

16:09 Techrights-sec; a word or two about the role Alexandre Oliva had at the time LibrePlanet

16:09 Techrights-sec; censored him and the importance of it in the bigger picture are needed

16:10 schestowitz-TR; the page is a little outdated by now and I don't want to edit without permission from key maintainer

16:10 schestowitz-TR; as it can lead to tension

16:10 schestowitz-TR; I created a new page

16:10 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wiki/High-Priority_Opponents

16:10 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | High-Priority Opponents - Techrights

16:11 Techrights-sec; How active is Fig now?

16:11 Techrights-sec; THe nature of a wiki is that many can edit and update

16:13 schestowitz-TR; http://techrights.org/wiki/High-Priority_Opponents

16:13 schestowitz-TR; that nature is OK based on the assumption of no vandalistic spam like 1000 spam edits an hour

16:13 schestowitz-TR; I did try this before

16:13 schestowitz-TR; the www is a shitstorm

16:13 schestowitz-TR; see /wiki/index.php in apachetop

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17:05 Techrights-sec; I have the feeling that atop fails in some way to account for certain closed

17:05 Techrights-sec; or abandoned connections.

17:07 schestowitz-TR; the reason I installed apachetop years ago was to better detect and understand ddos attacks

17:07 schestowitz-TR; tail -f on logs isn't too helpful, unless you deal with a small amount of requests

17:07 schestowitz-TR; I'vejust added some seminal text to http://techrights.org/wiki/High-Priority_Opponents

17:07 schestowitz-TR; it is still work in progress and based largely on our conversation

17:07 schestowitz-TR; maybe the next stage will be mind-mapping

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19:06 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> It's 7PM already. It's Thursday. The British government failed to release its weekly mortality report. :/ https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/weekly-all-cause-mortality-surveillance-2021-to-2022

19:06 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Weekly all-cause mortality surveillance: 2021 to 2022 - GOV.UK

19:07 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "Latest data provided on 27 May 2022" SERIOUSLY? WTF???? That's SIX days ago. Months ago updates were daily, even during weekends! https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

19:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ )

19:09 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "In line with weekday only reporting, the dashboard will not be updated over the bank holiday weekend. Following the update on Wednesday 1 June, the next update will be on Monday 6 June." WHAT? DA? FORK?? https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=nation&areaName=England

19:09 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=nation&areaName=England )

19:09 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> UK COVID-19 policy in summer 2022 in two words: HIDE STUFF.

19:11 schestowitz-TR; UK now at around 197,000 deaths with "COVID-19" named in the death certificate.

19:18 schestowitz-TR; Is COVID-19 at new lows in UK? No! The TESTING (i.e. visibility of the virus) had reached new lows https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/testing

19:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/testing )

19:21 schestowitz-TR; the banality of fatality

19:21 schestowitz-TR; "pro-lifers"

19:29 Techrights-sec; no word from Tails about their delay with 5.1. Something has happened, it

19:29 Techrights-sec; would be helpful for them to give a hint about what's going on.

19:30 schestowitz-TR; tails is already 2 days behind schedule

19:30 schestowitz-TR; maybe some people who to leak some docs

19:30 schestowitz-TR; I got some leaks this morning

19:40 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> 'Linux' Foundation has just done it again. http://techrights.org/2022/05/31/the-linux-foundation-politics/ see http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/lf-politics.png and http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation

19:40 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Has Turned Its Blog (and the Linux.com Web Site) Into Politics (Updated) | Techrights

19:40 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights

19:43 schestowitz-TR; Linux Foundation: only racists and bigots and sexists and blah blah blah would oppose our toxic, imperialistic agenda that favours bombing people and engaging in large-scale espionage. And issuing PR for Microsoft amid serious crimes...

19:43 schestowitz-TR; Linux Foundation: military-grade propaganda, brought to you by PEOPLE WHO DO NOT EVEN USE LINUX http://techrights.org/2021/11/09/linux-foundation-greenwash/

19:43 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Has Become Even Worse Than Climate Science Deniers | Techrights

19:48 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Based on latest available figures, about 100 people per day die in the UK with COVID-19 in their death certificate. That's a pace of 36,500 per year.

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