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IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, February 02, 2023

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4 AM, February 2

04:07 schestowitz-TR2; started testing test06

04:07 techrightssec; There's a stylesheet in the works too.

04:10 schestowitz-TR2; got it

04:10 schestowitz-TR2; see scrollback.log

04:11 techrightssec; The script is just a preliminary sketch.

04:11 techrightssec; Checking

04:12 schestowitz-TR2; i manage tocover more daily links

04:12 schestowitz-TR2; fibre installation complete

04:12 schestowitz-TR2; no difference sensed except IF downloading large files

04:12 schestowitz-TR2; which is rare

04:12 schestowitz-TR2; latency the same

04:12 schestowitz-TR2; for the time being running very crude tools to find news from flattered list of feeds derived

04:12 schestowitz-TR2; from ompl

04:12 schestowitz-TR2; unstructured and barely reliable

04:16 techrightssec; The one feed has a bad certificate, not much to do except improve the exception

04:16 techrightssec; handling in the script.

04:21 schestowitz-TR2; informal remark, not complaint:

04:21 schestowitz-TR2; when i run my lousy script i find it hard to catch all exceptions for all feeds

04:21 schestowitz-TR2; so end up making subsets and debugging bits

04:21 schestowitz-TR2; to check what to set aside or handle apart

04:21 schestowitz-TR2; so atm i try to keep up with "the news" this way

04:21 schestowitz-TR2; until a more robusy apprach exists

04:21 schestowitz-TR2; *robust approach

04:21 schestowitz-TR2; i don't miss quiterss at all

04:21 schestowitz-TR2; reminds me of social control media

04:21 schestowitz-TR2; the gui is like inboxZero

04:21 schestowitz-TR2; i don't even like opening thunderbird anymore

04:21 schestowitz-TR2; it's like a todo list waiting to show up

04:22 techrightssec; Yes, that's generally a good approach.

04:22 techrightssec; The one feed has a broken certificate. The new action is to just skip such feeds and keep processing the OPML fi

04:22 techrightssec; le.

04:23 schestowitz-TR2; i will toss the file i use atm into /tmp

04:23 schestowitz-TR2; feedlist.py, there now

04:26 techrightssec; Try the new script (same location)

04:26 techrightssec; Checking

04:29 schestowitz[TR2]; Fetching http://reviewjolla.blogspot.fi/feeds/posts/default?alt=rss

↺ http://reviewjolla.blogspot.fi/feeds/posts/default?alt=rss

04:29 schestowitz[TR2]; Fetch failed

04:29 schestowitz[TR2]; Traceback (most recent call last):

04:29 schestowitz[TR2]; File "/home/roy/./test-06-opml-ttl-save-html-xslt.py", line 314, in <module>

04:29 schestowitz[TR2]; feeds = initialize_ttl(feeds)

04:29 schestowitz[TR2]; File "/home/roy/./test-06-opml-ttl-save-html-xslt.py", line 89, in initialize_ttl

04:29 schestowitz[TR2]; if 'ttl' in feed.feed:

04:29 schestowitz[TR2]; AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'feed'

04:29 schestowitz[TR2]; this one feed is always fatal

04:29 schestowitz[TR2]; both your script and mine

04:34 techrightssec; The Jolla feed is broken and cannot be parsed properly

04:34 techrightssec; Script updated to roll past that.

04:35 schestowitz-TR2; copying in

04:56 techrightssec; The script gets the URLs sequentially so it would be most useful to start

04:56 techrightssec; with a short OPML file. I suppose parallel fetching could be added later

04:56 techrightssec; ... maybe


5 AM, February 2

05:03 schestowitz-TR2; seee scrollback2.log

05:06 techrightssec; Checking

05:16 schestowitz-TR2; btw, might not SEEM productive today

05:16 schestowitz-TR2; i use the super-fastwire to download all my sites

05:16 schestowitz-TR2; long long ovedue

05:16 schestowitz-TR2; i was taking high risk

05:16 schestowitz-TR2; in case of server incidents

05:16 schestowitz-TR2; focused on db backups

05:22 techrightssec; The script now catches some more exceptions. If you have time there is a

05:22 techrightssec; tweaked version. There is also an easy way to do the fetching in parallel

05:22 techrightssec; but that would greatly complicate the current round of debugging.

05:22 techrightssec; checking

05:22 schestowitz-TR2; fectehd

05:22 schestowitz-TR2; rerunning

05:22 schestowitz-TR2; \

05:23 schestowitz-TR2; seee scrollback2.log

05:23 schestowitz-TR2; seee scrollback2.log

05:23 schestowitz-TR2; AAAseee scrollback3.log

05:31 techrightssec; Checking against OPML from QuiteRSS. It's slow. A surprising number of

05:31 techrightssec; feed seem to block by user agent.

05:32 schestowitz-TR2; probably not the feeds per see but shittycdn like clownflare

05:32 schestowitz-TR2; *se

05:32 schestowitz-TR2; probably not the feeds per see but shittycdn like clownflare

05:32 schestowitz-TR2; *se

05:32 schestowitz-TR2; remember i type on a verydistant keyboard

05:32 schestowitz-TR2; i gave up trying to configure 'free' synergy

05:32 schestowitz-TR2; they weed out the downloads

05:47 techrightssec; ack

05:47 techrightssec; What about barrier

05:47 techrightssec; ?

05:48 schestowitz-TR2; it is used on newer machines


6 AM, February 2

06:03 techrightssec; Is Pogson active any more? His domain is still registered but the web server

06:03 techrightssec; seems unresponsive.

06:04 schestowitz-TR2; casualty of changing times

06:08 schestowitz-TR2; oh,very nice!

06:08 techrightssec; Thanks

06:15 techrightssec; It needs to mark defunct / unavailable feeds.

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06:17 schestowitz-TR2; configured two new landlines

06:17 schestowitz-TR2; will try to record today after shower etc

06:17 schestowitz-TR2; but like i said, also copying sites

06:17 schestowitz-TR2; tr might take 2 hours to copy, 150gb

06:17 schestowitz-TR2; this is priority

06:17 schestowitz-TR2; safet first

06:17 schestowitz-TR2; back in 2 hrs

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06:19 techrightssec; How is the sound quality on the new landlines?

06:20 schestowitz-TR2; it was VEY awful before

06:20 schestowitz-TR2; VERY bad

06:20 schestowitz-TR2; i have not tested the new ones yet

06:20 schestowitz-TR2; they overcomplicste some thind

06:20 schestowitz-TR2; i will use them for alarms too

06:20 schestowitz-TR2; their sound is very nice

06:20 schestowitz-TR2; biab


7 AM, February 2

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8 AM, February 2

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10 AM, February 2

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10:08 techrightssec; Do you have the currenrt versions?

10:08 techrightssec; ./test-06-opml-ttl-save-html-xslt.py > x.html; firefox x.html

10:08 techrightssec; with opml2html.css in the same directory as x.html

10:08 schestowitz-TR2; it tries to run h1 as a command in python

10:21 schestowitz-TR2; wow, this is superuseful

10:21 schestowitz-TR2; i open the html in kate

10:21 schestowitz-TR2; and in a browser

10:21 schestowitz-TR2; and survey what's new

10:21 schestowitz-TR2; then work with it in kate

10:23 techrightssec; It's getting there. Quite a lot remains and then after those loose ends are

10:23 techrightssec; tidied, parallel fetching can be added. That's not as hard as I thought but

10:23 techrightssec; it makes debugging harder so it can be postponed.

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10:33 techrightssec; Empty branches still ned

10:33 techrightssec; to be marked as such, that's probably next.

10:35 schestowitz-TR2; VERY nice work

10:35 schestowitz-TR2; i clled rianne over to see it

10:35 schestowitz-TR2; and showed her my news workflow

10:35 schestowitz-TR2; *new

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11 AM, February 2

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11:45 schestowitz-TR2; got epo material

11:45 schestowitz-TR2; recorded 2 videos

11:45 schestowitz-TR2; now processing

11:45 schestowitz-TR2; back 'in business'

11:45 schestowitz-TR2; excited abut news analysis tools

11:45 schestowitz-TR2; did a 5-mi video about that


noon, February 2

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1 PM, February 2

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3 PM, February 2

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15:51 schestowitz-TR2; tiktoker https://nypost.com/2023/02/02/tiktoker-reveals-husband-suffered-brain-injury-at-their-wedding/

↺ https://nypost.com/2023/02/02/tiktoker-reveals-husband-suffered-brain-injury-at-their-wedding/

15:51 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nypost.com | TikToker reveals husband suffered brain injury at their wedding

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4 PM, February 2

16:25 schestowitz-TR2; How Google has downgraded importance of news websites in search results https://pressgazette.co.uk/media-audience-and-business-data/news-publishers-lose-google-search-visibility-2022/

↺ https://pressgazette.co.uk/media-audience-and-business-data/news-publishers-lose-google-search-visibility-2022/

16:25 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pressgazette.co.uk | News publishers Google search visibility: 2022's winners and losers

16:51 schestowitz-TR2; oh, i see empty ones are greyed out now?


5 PM, February 2

17:12 schestowitz-TR2; i think for 3 days there was a new bug in the mrged-file

17:12 schestowitz-TR2; i think you can see it by opening it

17:12 techrightssec; While line numbers in 2023-02-02-merged.html for example?

17:20 schestowitz-TR2; thanks, afk for hours now

17:20 schestowitz-TR2; been productive in many ways

17:20 techrightssec; ok I see extra stuff, will look into it

17:20 techrightssec; ack


6 PM, February 2

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