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1 AM, December 1

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4 AM, December 1

04:17 schestowitz-TR; "I was originally leaning towards Gopher, but exploring Gemini in the Lagrange browser reminded me just how much I love it. Rather than

04:17 schestowitz-TR; boiling the ocean, I might try running my own server with some basic stuff on it first." https://rubenerd.com/feedback-about-gemini-an

↺ https://rubenerd.com/feedback-about-gemini-an

04:17 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://rubenerd.com/feedback-about-gemini-an )

↺ https://rubenerd.com/feedback-about-gemini-an

04:17 schestowitz-TR; d-gopher/

04:18 schestowitz-TR; end of month tasks are now done

04:38 schestowitz-TR; we've just donated to the elepahants again

04:38 schestowitz-TR; still giving to the blind every month

04:38 schestowitz-TR; today i think I can pick up publication pace again

04:38 schestowitz-TR; invested much of the past fortnight

04:50 Techrightssec; ack


5 AM, December 1

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05:29 Techrightssec; The handling of the EA sw patent, especially how the press is mishandling it,

05:29 Techrightssec; would be a relevant topic: 20220362677

05:29 schestowitz-TR; i've put that in the list for videos to do today

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7 AM, December 1

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07:59 schestowitz-TR; earlier today I got caught up in distraction and some bad feelings over the football

07:59 schestowitz-TR; and maybe some other news I saw

07:59 schestowitz-TR; I really need to find a better way, but this reminded me of twitter

07:59 schestowitz-TR; esp. before I started ignoring it ("write-only")

07:59 schestowitz-TR; it's a sea of fast-changing topics and noise

07:59 schestowitz-TR; almost desighed to not just overwhelm the brain but also provoke

07:59 schestowitz-TR; it was getting really bad some years ago when they curated instead of letting the feeds and stuff work

07:59 schestowitz-TR; in a neutral way based on who or what you actually "followed"

07:59 schestowitz-TR; i'm going to finish links around 9am, then feeds again, then videos


8 AM, December 1

08:25 Techrightssec; ack

08:25 Techrightssec; Rob Braxman's most recent video toed the m$ line to a certain extent.

08:25 Techrightssec; While in some way's knuckling under like that may seem "pragmatic" on the

08:25 Techrightssec; surface, it is 1) wasting your time with m$ junk, methods, and quirks and

08:25 Techrightssec; 2) limiting your future options by 2a) not spending time learning real methods

08:25 Techrightssec; and 2B) feeding market share to m$ instead of squashing it

08:25 Techrightssec; ^ topic ?

08:25 Techrightssec; https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/11/30/1230232

↺ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/11/30/1230232

08:25 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-soylentnews.org | Patent Detects in-Game Collusion by Tracking External Connections - SoylentNews

08:25 Techrightssec; ^ topic ?

08:27 schestowitz-TR; thanks, I have that latter one already

08:27 schestowitz-TR; so 3 in total

08:34 schestowitz-TR; linuxbuz is a dead site. never publishes anything. but today it posted LINKSPAM for clown computing. Fake 'article'. https://linuxbuz.com/best-resources/pointers-for-picking-a-cloud-hosting-provider

↺ https://linuxbuz.com/best-resources/pointers-for-picking-a-cloud-hosting-provider

08:34 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Pointers for Picking a Cloud Hosting Provider - LinuxBuz

08:36 Techrightssec; linuxbuz or linuxbuzz ? the former might be a scam

08:36 schestowitz-TR; ng-provider

08:36 schestowitz-TR; not the same

08:36 schestowitz-TR; and this one did publish on topic in the past

08:37 Techrightssec; linuxbuz or linuxbuzz ? the former might be a scam by typo squatters

08:37 Techrightssec; the latter seems still on topic but has not published in nearly a month

08:38 schestowitz-TR; I follow both, IIRC

08:38 schestowitz-TR; we might need to 'hunt' for more RSS feeds

08:38 schestowitz-TR; some exist that we don't know about but not many are active

08:38 schestowitz-TR; some are not worth adding because you might get one iterm in 3 years

08:38 schestowitz-TR; or nothing since 3 years ago

08:38 schestowitz-TR; so you are wasting bandwidth at both ends

08:56 Techrightssec; True, but I've been keeping some around anyway on the off chance that

08:56 Techrightssec; they do publish again. They don't take space in the compact view and that

08:56 Techrightssec; is the important thing. Otherwise it would be too inconvenient to wade past

08:56 Techrightssec; them each time.


9 AM, December 1

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09:45 schestowitz-TR; Cryptome https://scheerpost.com/2022/11/30/cryptome-founder-asks-to-be-indicted-with-assange/ | Source: Scheerpost

↺ https://scheerpost.com/2022/11/30/cryptome-founder-asks-to-be-indicted-with-assange/

09:45 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Cryptome Founder Asks to be Indicted With Assange - scheerpost.com

09:46 schestowitz-TR; I've longer wondered what happened to Cryptome

09:46 schestowitz-TR; brought that up in IRC and prior years in social conntrol media too

09:46 schestowitz-TR; Cryptome was spared

09:46 schestowitz-TR; afaik

09:54 Techrightssec; ack


10 AM, December 1

10:11 schestowitz-TR; education https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/11/30/desantis-backed-education-purge-begins-after-school-board-takeovers-florida | Source: Common Dreams

↺ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/11/30/desantis-backed-education-purge-begins-after-school-board-takeovers-florida

10:11 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | DeSantis-Backed Education Purge Begins After School Board Takeovers in Florida

10:13 schestowitz-TR; twitter https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/11/30/evidence-grows-left-wing-twitter-purge-directed-musk | Source: Common Dreams

↺ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/11/30/evidence-grows-left-wing-twitter-purge-directed-musk

10:13 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Evidence Grows of Left-Wing Twitter Purge Directed by Musk

10:16 schestowitz-TR; this might be the 'missing' piece for my next video+article re twitter

10:30 schestowitz-TR; OTAx3 (3 videos)


noon, December 1

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1 PM, December 1

13:06 schestowitz-TR; my upstream speed is awful today

13:06 schestowitz-TR; maybe some device hogging it

13:06 schestowitz-TR; but I've put two drafts online while videos are being sent

13:07 Techrightssec; check nethogs on all machines and maybe iotop on them too

13:07 Techrightssec; do you have openwrt on the router? if so there are some utilities for it as well

13:09 schestowitz-TR; sorry, my writing style is

13:09 schestowitz-TR; type fast, then check afterwards

13:09 schestowitz-TR; so I pass you crude draftsw

13:09 schestowitz-TR; corrected now

13:09 Techrightssec; In the twitter post, the first and second paragraphs should be joined or else

13:09 Techrightssec; the second one bridged content-wise to the first and expanded significantly.

13:09 Techrightssec; In the condenast one, perhaps a few words about how the editorial choices are

13:09 Techrightssec; poor would be warranted.

13:18 Techrightssec; People might not know what Slashdot was or how central it was to tech. Even

13:18 Techrightssec; if they do, they might be unaware about how there were whole teams dedicated

13:18 Techrightssec; to attacking it through derailing the discussions.

13:19 schestowitz-TR; I made that a link to the wiki and added the third draft

13:19 schestowitz-TR; uploads still very slow

13:23 Techrightssec; Team99 was one example.

13:23 Techrightssec; checking third draft

13:23 Techrightssec; s/mindframe/mind set/

13:23 Techrightssec; or world view?

13:23 Techrightssec; s/still dominant/still rather dominant/

13:24 Techrightssec; ???

13:24 Techrightssec; Windows is still rather dominant in laptops and desktops, but only laptops and desktops, plus these days those are even the majority of

13:24 Techrightssec; client devices

13:24 Techrightssec; ???

13:24 Techrightssec; s/are/aren't/

13:25 schestowitz; Windows is still rather dominant in laptops and desktops, but laptops and desktops aren't the majority of devices, certainly not the majority of Internet-connected devices.

13:26 schestowitz-TR; changed as per your rephrasing

13:26 schestowitz-TR; can you give me one ujrl for team 99?

13:28 Techrightssec; not offhand

13:30 schestowitz-TR; you saw a comment from "elizabeth from microsoft" in soylent news too

13:30 schestowitz-TR; that's just when they disclose it upfront

13:30 Techrightssec; but there are a lot of examples of m$ astroturfing against FOSS or for their

13:30 Techrightssec; own products, albiet many hidden

13:30 Techrightssec; https://www.pcworld.com/article/439883/microsoft-caught-astroturfing-bloggers-again-to-promote-internet-explorer.html

↺ https://www.pcworld.com/article/439883/microsoft-caught-astroturfing-bloggers-again-to-promote-internet-explorer.html

13:30 Techrightssec; which thread?

13:30 Techrightssec; Yes, that's just when they disclose it.

13:30 Techrightssec; https://www.pcworld.com/article/439883/microsoft-caught-astroturfing-bloggers-again-to-promote-internet-explorer.html

↺ https://www.pcworld.com/article/439883/microsoft-caught-astroturfing-bloggers-again-to-promote-internet-explorer.html

13:30 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Microsoft caught 'astroturfing' bloggers again to promote Internet Explorer | PCWorld

13:31 Techrightssec; https://www.theregister.com/2005/05/03/ms_blog_team99/

↺ https://www.theregister.com/2005/05/03/ms_blog_team99/

13:31 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.com | Microsoft recruits Longhorn bloggers The Register

13:31 Techrightssec; They've been astroturfing nonstop before during and since Team99

13:33 Techrightssec; https://www.theregister.com/2001/09/26/ms_targets_linux_mac_rivals/

↺ https://www.theregister.com/2001/09/26/ms_targets_linux_mac_rivals/

13:33 Techrightssec; from back when The Register was still independent

13:33 Techrightssec; I guess it is to their credit that they have not deleted nor 'reorganized' away

13:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.com | MS targets Linux, Mac rivals with IIS astroturf The Register

13:33 Techrightssec; the old articles. The same goes for Wired.


2 PM, December 1

14:05 Techrightssec; also recall usenet

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14:36 Techrightssec; there was an awful lot of astroturfing from m$ and other anti-Freedom interests

14:36 Techrightssec; towards the end; eventually the ISPs stopped hosting it altogether and

14:36 Techrightssec; for the average person that was the end of it;

14:40 schestowitz-TR; i suppose these days they would just dub it "illegal content" and then pressur the so-called store to ban

14:40 schestowitz-TR; all applications that can handle newsgrouops

14:40 schestowitz-TR; i posted maybe 70k-100k messages to usenet

14:40 schestowitz-TR; but that was a long time ago

14:40 schestowitz-TR; protocols get swapped over over time

14:40 schestowitz-TR; or "replaced"

14:40 schestowitz-TR; twitter and maybe FB are now on the ropes


3 PM, December 1

15:07 Techrightssec; the protocol could not stand up to the astroturfing set against it

15:49 schestowitz-TR; maybe setting quiterss to work from disk rather than from ram solved my io issue

15:49 schestowitz-TR; so far ity appears to have done the trick, after 4 weeks of struggle

15:53 Techrightssec; Interesting

15:53 Techrightssec; QuiteRSS has not been updated for a long time so I hope the developers are ok.

15:54 schestowitz-TR; i tested many rss readers since 2003 or 2004

15:54 schestowitz-TR; quiterss is still best for gui


4 PM, December 1

16:06 schestowitz-TR; Shusain has been flooding his site with linkspam lately. Fake articles. Spam farm. Latest examples: https://linuxtechlab.com/best-streaming-cameras/ https://linuxtechlab.com/what-is-a-cross-platform-android-and-ios-app-development-company-specialized-in/ rotting site. Dead soon?

↺ https://linuxtechlab.com/best-streaming-cameras/

↺ https://linuxtechlab.com/what-is-a-cross-platform-android-and-ios-app-development-company-specialized-in/

16:06 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Best Streaming Cameras - LinuxTechLab

16:06 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-What is a Cross Platform (Android and iOS) App Development Company Specialized in? - LinuxTechLab

16:13 schestowitz; https://lwn.net/Articles/916223/

↺ https://lwn.net/Articles/916223/

16:13 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://lwn.net/Articles/916223/ )

↺ https://lwn.net/Articles/916223/

16:13 schestowitz; "The Document Foundation (TDF) was created in 2010 to steward and support the development of the LibreOffice suite, which was then a new fork of OpenOffice.org. TDF has clearly been successful; unlike OpenOffice, which is currently under the Apache umbrella, LibreOffice is an actively developed and widely used project. But TDF has also been showing signs of stress in recent years, and the situation does not appear to be getting better. There are

16:13 schestowitz; currently some significant disagreements over just what role TDF should play; if those cannot be resolved, there is a real chance that they could rip the Foundation apart. "

16:17 schestowitz-TR; Perl should spent no time and effort cushioning Microsoft proprietary software that's a major threat to security (can quietly introduce back doors at compile time) https://blogs.perl.org/users/tom_wyant/2022/12/making-github-ci-work-with-perl-58.html

↺ https://blogs.perl.org/users/tom_wyant/2022/12/making-github-ci-work-with-perl-58.html

16:17 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Making GitHub CI work with Perl 5.8. | Tom Wyant [blogs.perl.org]

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5 PM, December 1

17:13 schestowitz-TR; "Over the last nine years I have written 300,000 words for this blog on the topics which are important to me. I am not certain that I have much left to say." https://drewdevault.com/2022/12/01/I-shall-toil-quietly.html

↺ https://drewdevault.com/2022/12/01/I-shall-toil-quietly.html

17:13 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-drewdevault.com | I shall toil at a reduced volume

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17:19 Techrightssec; ack

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6 PM, December 1

18:18 Techrightssec; BTW Gannett is cutting more staff yet again.

18:20 schestowitz-TR; they can go to hell

18:20 schestowitz-TR; I feel bad for the real journalists among them

18:20 schestowitz-TR; I hope they start something like scheer did

18:20 schestowitz-TR; first truthdig

18:20 schestowitz-TR; then took the people (mr. fish, hedges etc.) to a new home

18:20 schestowitz-TR; very good site

18:20 Techrightssec; It owns quite a few of the

18:20 Techrightssec; remaining US newspapers

18:20 Techrightssec; Gannett wasn't great but it wasn't as bad as the fake local papers which

18:20 Techrightssec; are owned nationally and rather than finding and reporting local news only

18:20 Techrightssec; serve to disseminate national level propaganda at a local level.

18:21 schestowitz-TR; ok, so Gannett is not as sisnister as I thought

18:21 schestowitz-TR; IIRC, it was pushing trumpism for a bit

18:21 schestowitz-TR; but owns usa today and other historically important names

18:27 Techrightssec; A lot of papers pushed that crap because even though it was terrible for the

18:27 Techrightssec; nation, it was good for their bottom line in the very short term. Though

18:27 Techrightssec; it probably led to the collapse seen now, so they probably shot their own foot.

18:43 Techrightssec; I forget what company owned one local paper but they served a left-of-center

18:43 Techrightssec; community and published matching articles most of the time, except when

18:43 Techrightssec; push came to shove. For example, right before the coup (of sorts) in 2000 they

18:43 Techrightssec; quietly endorsed Little Bush even though every last editorial they had previously published went against that conclusion.

18:43 schestowitz-TR; like billg did

18:45 Techrightssec; Bill appeared to step down as CEO to get into politics, the timing was the

18:45 Techrightssec; big loss that m$ ran the previous year.

18:46 schestowitz-TR; afk

18:46 Techrightssec; Can't find the link for that thouk.

18:46 Techrightssec; ack


7 PM, December 1

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