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beginning of new day, November 1

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00:56 schestowitz-TR2; turns out 3 days ago the gemini lockfile got stuck there and I didn't notice till now

00:56 schestowitz-TR2; trying to refresh it all from rss, not sure it goes back far enough

00:56 schestowitz-TR2; i really need to manually check this every day, just to be on the safe side

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07:41 techrights-sec1; tldr; ipfs blocks disk i/o


8 AM, November 1

08:00 techrights-sec1; Lost in the scroll back was a lengthy analysis of the ipfs problem.

08:00 techrights-sec1; One work-around would be to have the Gemini script turn off the IPFS

08:00 techrights-sec1; stuff for the duration of the task and then turn it back on at the end.

08:00 techrights-sec1; Additional, but insufficient alone, would be to ionice and nice the IPFS

08:00 techrights-sec1; tools upon startup.

08:01 schestowitz-TR2; sorry, scrollback was lost

08:01 schestowitz-TR2; I made a habit of backing it up to text editor

08:17 techrights-sec1; There needs to be a way to turn off IPFS on demand by the Gemini script.

08:17 techrights-sec1; I looked but there seems to be no systemd unit files for it.

08:17 techrights-sec1; Also the ipfs binary is from 5 Aug, I think there have been updates since

08:17 techrights-sec1; then.

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08:47 schestowitz-TR2; ipfs has not behaved correctly lately

08:47 schestowitz-TR2; running multiple processes

08:47 schestowitz-TR2; looking into it atm,

08:47 schestowitz-TR2; ok, I _think_ gemini is up to date now

08:47 schestowitz-TR2; maybe it missed some older pages outside the range of the rss feed

08:47 schestowitz-TR2; The problem was that ipfs had slip out of control again

08:47 schestowitz-TR2; I'll monitor to see if that happens again

08:47 schestowitz-TR2; Im am adding to myn morning routine checking top to see if ipfs works correctly

08:47 schestowitz-TR2; and also checking gemini pages are created properly

08:47 schestowitz-TR2; ipfs was being a resource hog because it was spawning additional processes

08:48 techrights-sec1; I re-ran the script which fetches the pages manually so that the the

08:48 techrights-sec1; 28th onward were converted from HTML to Gemini. It was the indexing

08:48 techrights-sec1; which choked due to IPFS hogging the disk continually.

08:48 techrights-sec1; Did you restart IPFS with ionice?

08:52 schestowitz-TR2; i've just stopped it it and rerun it with ionice

08:52 schestowitz-TR2; also added to the script

08:52 techrights-sec1; Is IPFS running the latest version?

08:52 techrights-sec1; The gemini scripts won't work unless either IPFS has a lower i/o priority

08:52 techrights-sec1; or is temporarily off. Maybe there will be a better situation with

08:52 techrights-sec1; a newer version.

08:52 techrights-sec1; Can you please add a means for the scripts to turn on and off ipfs?

08:52 techrights-sec1; Thanks! ionice will help

08:54 schestowitz-TR2; remember ipfs was NOT working correctly lately

08:54 schestowitz-TR2; caused a few issues

08:54 schestowitz-TR2; that's aside from the server, which works OK

08:54 schestowitz-TR2; it looks like round robin now lets ipfs in and then puts it aside if it chokes io

08:55 schestowitz-TR2; sorry, it does seem like a suisance sometimes

08:55 schestowitz-TR2; *nouisance

08:56 schestowitz-TR2; but www is not the future

08:56 schestowitz-TR2; I think it makes sense to experiment with other transport protocols

08:56 schestowitz-TR2; some people nowadays come to irc through gemini


9 AM, November 1

09:00 schestowitz-TR2; one important contrib of TR (and TM, in tandem) is that it helps people assess the news

09:00 schestowitz-TR2; in Linux/FS and in general

09:00 schestowitz-TR2; and that has a knockon effect as many who read TR also run their own sites

09:00 schestowitz-TR2; a bit of a domini effetc

09:00 schestowitz-TR2; the 'nuisance' protocols are investment ahead of transition, methinkg

09:00 schestowitz-TR2; *methinks

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09:53 schestowitz-TR2; the "yield" in phoronix has not been good lately; then again, news seems slow, but also less anti-linux

09:53 schestowitz-TR2; venom in it, so all in all an OK thing; I'll post daily links now, seeing merged-links are not ready yet


10 AM, November 1

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10:22 schestowitz-TR2; thanks for the links, great stuff. btw, mqtt has said connection refused since last night

10:46 techrights-sec1; checking the mqtt stuff


11 AM, November 1

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11:20 techrights-sec1; I'll make some new mqtt client certificates with a longer expiration date,

11:20 techrights-sec1; I thought I had done that last month.

11:20 schestowitz-TR2; education https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/31/teacher-exodus-proves-we-are-willfully-destroying-us-public-education | Source: Common Dreams

↺ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/31/teacher-exodus-proves-we-are-willfully-destroying-us-public-education

11:20 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Teacher Exodus Proves We Are Willfully Destroying US Public Education | Steven Singer

11:27 schestowitz-TR2; i am 40, so anything prior to 2000 in higher edu is not something I am familiar with

11:27 schestowitz-TR2; when I had an undergrad supervisor she was overworked with teaching and marking up examples

11:27 schestowitz-TR2; *exams

11:27 schestowitz-TR2; the latter does not require very advwance knowlkedge, it is quite mechanical, and poor use of skilled

11:27 schestowitz-TR2; staff who could otherwise do decent research

11:27 schestowitz-TR2; clerical work seems to have increased since while pay stagnated

11:27 schestowitz-TR2; this is why many skilled people go "to industry"

11:27 schestowitz-TR2; and academic attracts some overworked flunkies

11:27 schestowitz-TR2; this, in turn, lowers the quality of "eduction"

11:27 schestowitz-TR2; which in context of CS seems to be shifting from concepts and problem-solving into training courses

11:27 schestowitz-TR2; of sorts

11:27 schestowitz-TR2; to "prepare students for the world" (private sector)

11:27 schestowitz-TR2; i heard that schools teach "ICT" and it's basically not ICT

11:27 schestowitz-TR2; they train for GUIs

11:38 techrights-sec1; The "education" has become training and even that has been watered down.

11:38 techrights-sec1; Furthermore, the degrees in Europe have been whittled down to 3 years which

11:38 techrights-sec1; is not enough time to learn a major let alone get a well-rounded education.

11:38 techrights-sec1; There just are not simply enough credit hours per degree to get more than

11:38 techrights-sec1; a rudimentary exposure to the core material. The schedule is so tight that

11:38 techrights-sec1; no essential related material can get covered. This has now gone on for

11:38 techrights-sec1; two, soon three, academic generations. So you have the blind leading the blind.

11:38 techrights-sec1; In the US the situation is far more dire. In the EU, the basic K-12 has been

11:38 techrights-sec1; torpedoed too but the US lost 40% right off the bat during the Reagan

11:38 techrights-sec1; administration and then has been cut every year since. So there simply aren't

11:38 techrights-sec1; any left in the work force to outnumber the know-nothings.

11:38 techrights-sec1; Then there is the subversion of the universities on both sides of the pond

11:38 techrights-sec1; from education to half-assed training.

11:38 techrights-sec1; Too much ranting, though the situation is much more dire than expressed above.

11:38 techrights-sec1; They train GUIs but if academia were to have always been chasing its tail

11:38 techrights-sec1; like it does now, we'd still be on CP/M

11:38 techrights-sec1; Via the Bologne Treaty the universities were turned into captive markets for

11:38 techrights-sec1; failed businesses, nothing more, nothing less.

11:44 techrights-sec1; And those posing as lecturers or teachers for the most part lack not just

11:44 techrights-sec1; the knowledge and the theories, but even awareness of the knowledge and

11:44 techrights-sec1; theoretical foundation they are missing.

11:44 techrights-sec1; Logging in Mosquitto is lame. e.g.

11:44 techrights-sec1; 1667095200: mosquitto version 2.0.15 terminating

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11:58 techrights-sec1; It seemed to have stopped a while ago, but it did not give a reason for stopping

11:58 schestowitz-TR2; I stopped it at my end or rather restarted it around the time you pasted the rrror


noon, November 1

12:29 schestowitz-TR2; I'd do a video about this tech if I knew more about it and how it works

12:29 schestowitz-TR2; how do you envision the future of "content" "consumption"?

12:29 schestowitz-TR2; rianne and I discussed it this morning in re tm

12:29 schestowitz-TR2; as we see sites that grind to a halt or become webspam (too many! even pjoronix flirts with that)

12:47 techrights-sec1; I'm a little too pessimistic at the moment to forecast "content" "consumption"

12:47 techrights-sec1; but the trend of abusing the browser as a VM is not sustainable. They'd

12:47 techrights-sec1; be doing less work to come up with something pseudo-proprietary like

12:47 techrights-sec1; ChromeOS or SteamDeck but passed around as a VM image or container itself.

12:47 techrights-sec1; However, adding in the hardware like they do makes it age out faster. Both

12:47 techrights-sec1; by wearing out and breaking down but also through scheduled cessation of

12:47 techrights-sec1; continued support and inability to replace the OS with a general purpose

12:47 techrights-sec1; system.

12:51 schestowitz-TR2; i share this sentiment and this is discussed in irc atm

12:51 schestowitz-TR2; namely, all those things that will be "out of support" after onyl a few years

12:51 schestowitz-TR2; inc. cars

12:51 schestowitz-TR2; and durability of appliances

12:51 schestowitz-TR2; looking around me, I have a laptop from this year (cheap), one from 2016, one 2015, one from 2016

12:51 schestowitz-TR2; "ted" died in 2020 after a series of issues ending with a bad drive

12:51 schestowitz-TR2; ted was 2009 baby

12:51 schestowitz-TR2; you shared a post about how sites should remove things to make themselves easier to run in the long run

12:52 schestowitz-TR2; but www itself might be a languishing protocol

12:52 schestowitz-TR2; in the tram we see some people messing about with "phone"

12:52 schestowitz-TR2; I assume they don't use them to get news

12:52 schestowitz-TR2; but pseudo-social noise

12:52 schestowitz-TR2; when the general public follows sport and gossip it keeps it out of the way of people in charge

12:52 schestowitz-TR2; "I don't follow politics, sorry..."

12:59 techrights-sec1; No, I get the impression that most people just fiddle addictively with the

12:59 techrights-sec1; "apps" on "their" smartphones with no expectation of being informed, involved,

12:59 techrights-sec1; or enlightened. It's a pure, empty addiction as far as I can tell.


1 PM, November 1

13:02 schestowitz-TR2; ahead of us at one stage I gleaned over at a man in his 50s checking the score of the ongoing man united

13:02 schestowitz-TR2; football match

13:02 schestowitz-TR2; using the billBC Web site, which I boycott

13:02 schestowitz-TR2; I told rianne later that what he did there for 30 seconds I do by just moving my eye to a corner on the

13:02 schestowitz-TR2; screen where the score is presented in real time

13:02 schestowitz-TR2; whils doing actual work

13:02 schestowitz-TR2; the small device and lack of mouse, keyboard etc. means people merely get an illusion of achieving

13:02 schestowitz-TR2; stuff

13:02 schestowitz-TR2; even listening to the score on the radio, as we did in the 80s, is better

13:02 schestowitz-TR2; but it's "old tech" so we're not meant to think it's relevant anymore

13:02 schestowitz-TR2; even am radio with low-grade modulation can achieve so much more than these smut phones

13:02 schestowitz-TR2; with their battery life of only a few meager hours

13:02 schestowitz-TR2; my rca from the 90s lasted days

13:03 schestowitz-TR2; (on the radio the people are trained to tell you what's happening under the assumption you cannot see

13:03 schestowitz-TR2; it and need description of what's happening)

13:06 schestowitz-TR2; you could work in the garage or clean the house while listening

13:06 schestowitz-TR2; some podcasts on youtube I was using like this while doing home chores, but now with ads it would

13:06 schestowitz-TR2; be infeasible, albeit for now invidious does a good job weeding out the ads

13:31 techrights-sec1; That's an advantage for Gemini, you could run GemText through a reader and

13:31 techrights-sec1; listen to the document. Some of the programs for that are getting quite good.

13:32 schestowitz-TR2; beter than EC "webapps" for sure

13:32 schestowitz-TR2; where the content is not even linear

13:32 schestowitz-TR2; so it is not clear how to f*ing read the darn thing

13:49 techrights-sec1; I would guess that someone or group in a position of influence there at the EC

13:49 techrights-sec1; has done their best to 1) mindlessly chase trends and along the way

13:49 techrights-sec1; 2) find new subtle ways to exclude and disenfranchise large portions of

13:49 techrights-sec1; the citizenry.

13:49 techrights-sec1; Notably they have prevented linking to anything within the site, that above

13:49 techrights-sec1; all tells a lot.

13:50 schestowitz-TR2; this is not a new problem but it has pissed me off for a long time

13:50 schestowitz-TR2; the EUIPO's site is the same

13:50 schestowitz-TR2; cannot even see a press release without bootstrapping some bloated program

13:50 schestowitz-TR2; and even then it is very slow and cumbersome

13:50 schestowitz-TR2; EPO's site is not that bad (yet)

13:51 techrights-sec1; "engagement" :(

13:54 schestowitz-TR2; maybe they should add 16x16 pixel PNGs/Gifs for each button

13:54 schestowitz-TR2; and then boast about 100 "hits" per visit

13:54 schestowitz-TR2; and also preload things as you scroll down

13:54 schestowitz-TR2; to drive up "impressions"

13:54 schestowitz-TR2; the psedudo "pageloads"

13:54 schestowitz-TR2; to give peoople a false understanding of their so-called 'audience'

13:54 schestowitz-TR2; twitter fakes it further by faking these numbers some more

13:54 schestowitz-TR2; esp. when it pretends to mr. "gays attacks pelosi" that twitter is still relevanmt

13:54 schestowitz-TR2; i was right about musk taking it down the drain

13:54 schestowitz-TR2; he started VERY poorly

13:54 schestowitz-TR2; slow-motion LeeNode

13:54 schestowitz-TR2; or VOAT when Reddit had a "new" site

13:55 techrights-sec1; Just about anything that take twitter down for the count can't be all bad.

13:55 techrights-sec1; Reddit was always fraud and lies. Now it is an epicenter of a corporaye

13:55 techrights-sec1; disinformationn movement.

13:56 schestowitz-TR2; Broasie Robertson insists it's a good place for his "research"

13:56 schestowitz-TR2; i.e. filtered corporate junk

13:56 schestowitz-TR2; they probably ban systemd and wayland critics like they are fanatics


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3 PM, November 1

15:05 schestowitz-TR2; Deaths in England and Wales Up 22.74% in Latest Week (New Figures From ONS) Compared to Pre-Pandemic Levels https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/01/23-percent-increase-in-deaths/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/01/23-percent-increase-in-deaths/

15:05 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Deaths in England and Wales Up 22.74% in Latest Week (New Figures From ONS) Compared to Pre-Pandemic Levels

15:05 schestowitz-TR2; problem solved then, back to work, lazy lads...

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15:55 schestowitz-TR2; "If you are that stupid, stick to Windows with a pre-installed Microsoft Web browser, I guess. But how did you get on Mastodon anyway? That requires like, registering and passwords and stuff..." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-11-01.mayan.gmi

↺ gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-11-01.mayan.gmi

15:55 schestowitz-TR2; psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell-social

15:55 schestowitz-TR2; "The barrier to entry is literally installing one of the many Gemini browsers." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-11-01.mayan.gmi

↺ gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-11-01.mayan.gmi


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16:20 schestowitz-TR2; did lecturers always mark up exams?

16:20 schestowitz-TR2; the idea of doing a whoole pile of them is off-putting

16:20 schestowitz-TR2; esp. for salary levels like these

16:20 schestowitz-TR2; unlike supervising postdocs, who are sometimes used as unpaid or low paid labour for teaching tasks

16:20 schestowitz-TR2; makes one wonder where all the tuition fes actually go!

16:20 schestowitz-TR2; maybe library "subscription" for the cartels

16:20 schestowitz-TR2; operating volunteer scholars

16:21 schestowitz-TR2; high-skilled labour for privatised and centralised "intellectual property"

16:38 techrights-sec1; Not necessarily lecturers, usually teaching assistants. Those would be

16:38 techrights-sec1; masters students with job helping the lecturer or PhD students early on in theirresearch also with a job paid to

16:38 techrights-sec1; help the lecturer.

16:38 techrights-sec1; For large lectures, there were usually many.

16:38 schestowitz-TR2; it works differently here, at least in recent years

16:42 techrights-sec1; That's how it was 20 to 40 years

16:42 techrights-sec1; ago. No idea about more recently than that.

16:42 techrights-sec1; Or earlier than that.


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18:14 schestowitz-TR2; 2019 Compared to 2022 Week 42 (Based on New ONS Numbers): England and Wales Infant Mortality Rose 13%, in Kids Aged 1-14 It Rose 50% https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/01/2022-week-42-by-age/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/01/2022-week-42-by-age/

18:14 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive 2019 Compared to 2022 Week 42 (Based on New ONS Numbers): England and Wales Infant Mortality Rose 13%, in Kids Aged 1-14 It Rose 50%

18:27 techrights-sec1; ack

18:48 schestowitz-TR2; as I told rianne twice today,

18:48 schestowitz-TR2; I am very sad that in such a developed place with a past of spoils (of empire) so many more people

18:48 schestowitz-TR2; die needlessly

18:48 schestowitz-TR2; but I am happy we chose to deal with the pandemic (in our home) the way we did

18:48 schestowitz-TR2; almost everyone else I know got infected

18:48 schestowitz-TR2; the 2022 stats are likely not applicable to people who avoided it

18:51 schestowitz-TR2; I want yo opinion on the openssl flaw

18:51 schestowitz-TR2; lwn has some comments

18:51 schestowitz-TR2; and I posted it very fast to TM

18:51 schestowitz-TR2; it looks like it was not even CRITICAL!

18:51 schestowitz-TR2; and thought about doing a video

18:51 schestowitz-TR2; they've not even patched RHEL9 yet


7 PM, November 1

19:03 techrights-sec1; I've not seen *any* information about the flaw.

19:03 schestowitz-TR2; going to record about it

19:03 schestowitz-TR2; ota


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11 PM, November 1

23:05 schestowitz-TR2; 6 Days Ago the CDC Published Mortality Data for 3 More Months and It Shows a Sharp Increase in Total US Deaths https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/01/2022-and-2017/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/01/2022-and-2017/

23:05 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive 6 Days Ago the CDC Published Mortality Data for 3 More Months and It Shows a Sharp Increase in Total US Deaths

23:45 *libertybox__ is now known as schestowitz[TR4]


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