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beginning of new day, June 1

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10 AM, June 1

10:24 schestowitz-TR; today I slept a lot extra

10:24 schestowitz-TR; our negotiation inside the company resume this afternoon

10:24 schestowitz-TR; but the more important meetings are in 2 weeks

10:24 schestowitz-TR; yesterday we got the salary, about 3,1k net

10:24 schestowitz-TR; we cannot keep it that high, but saving helps secure the future

10:24 schestowitz-TR; I've just checked the gz archives for today, they're OK


11 AM, June 1

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11:25 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Anil Dash https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/podcast-episode-wordle-and-web-we-need | Sourc<techrights-news> Anil Dash https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/podcast-episode-wordle-and-web-we-need | Source: EFFe: EFF

↺ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/podcast-episode-wordle-and-web-we-need

↺ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/podcast-episode-wordle-and-web-we-need

11:25 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | Podcast Episode: Wordle and the Web We Need | Electronic Frontier Foundation

11:45 Techrights-sec; ack


noon, June 1

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12:47 schestowitz-TR; "I'm new to Gemini. I made a post to Antenna, the blog aggregator. I was interested to see how many hits it generated over 24 hours. After some data munging, I came up with this" gemini://blinkyshark.chickenkiller.com/2022-06-01-gemini-analytics.gmi

↺ gemini://blinkyshark.chickenkiller.com/2022-06-01-gemini-analytics.gmi

12:48 schestowitz-TR; back to coffee today as only two large lemons are left, the firmest of them all

12:48 schestowitz-TR; so no need to hurry anymore

12:56 schestowitz-TR; serious question: should we make more posts about gemini

12:56 schestowitz-TR; as in gemini about gemini

12:56 schestowitz-TR; or no need for now?

12:56 schestowitz-TR; it's one thing some have complained about

12:56 schestowitz-TR; like flattering oneself

12:56 Techrights-sec; ^wrong paste

12:56 Techrights-sec; no need for now, but posts about gemini in http would probably still be helpful

12:56 Techrights-sec; but not often unless /not/ self-referring

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1 PM, June 1

13:02 Techrights-sec; ack

13:02 Techrights-sec; gemini:// protocol links might not pull people to use Gemini; they need info

13:02 Techrights-sec; about how to get the clients first

13:02 Techrights-sec; so far elpa-elpher is in the repositories for Debian derivatives. it can

13:02 Techrights-sec; be promoted

13:03 schestowitz-TR; ok, I know what to do

13:03 schestowitz-TR; I'll drop it in as a "by the way"

13:03 schestowitz-TR; or, as more links in Daily Links

13:03 schestowitz-TR; to give it presence and exposure

13:03 schestowitz-TR; yes, getting people to fetch a proper client is a challenge

13:03 schestowitz-TR; in the proxy it's mentioned at top of all pages

13:03 schestowitz-TR; you said alfora is already, tetatively, in debian 12+derivs (to come)

13:03 schestowitz-TR; so it's going to the right direction, even if slowly

13:04 Techrights-sec; amfora is in the main repository for the latest version AFAIK but not the derivatives yet

13:06 schestowitz-TR; I use it on 3 machines

13:06 schestowitz-TR; on my main machines iirc I have 8 clients

13:10 schestowitz-TR; rave: around geminispace we're recognised as prolific posters, proponents, and coders

13:10 schestowitz-TR; as the other capsules are small and relatively inactive

13:10 schestowitz-TR; so it puts us in a strong position

13:10 schestowitz-TR; many of the original leaders are infrequent posters

13:10 schestowitz-TR; last month we served 500,000 pages

13:10 schestowitz-TR; and those were not 'masturbatory' gemini posts about gemini

13:10 schestowitz-TR; but about all sorts of issues

13:11 Techrights-sec; yes, lots of posts show that the capsule is active but the shorter posts,

13:11 Techrights-sec; especially "memes" need to be summarized in a way which is useful for Gemini

13:11 Techrights-sec; Many of them are, but it is an area which has a lot of room for improvement.

13:11 Techrights-sec; Since the Gemini users are probably skilled and or early adoptwers, they

13:11 Techrights-sec; are an important community to reach

13:12 Techrights-sec; the *text* is the important part IMHO

13:12 Techrights-sec; The image is (or should be) just supplemental

13:13 schestowitz-TR; given the increased storage capacity I can upload select memes to gemini://

13:13 schestowitz-TR; for those who use a GUI or image viewer

13:13 schestowitz-TR; those files are relatively small

13:13 schestowitz-TR; would there be value to adding an http/s link next to image: description?

13:13 Techrights-sec; No, I would think not.

13:18 schestowitz-TR; thinking aloud here,

13:18 schestowitz-TR; surely a gemini proxy for images can or could be set up which takes a request specific

13:18 schestowitz-TR; to a jpeg or similar and sends that back over gemini

13:18 schestowitz-TR; the existing proxy sends that as stream already

13:18 schestowitz-TR; but some adaptation it could work in reverse

13:18 schestowitz-TR; serving the http-served objects over gemini instead

13:18 schestowitz-TR; without having to store the file statically in two place

13:18 schestowitz-TR; only transiently or dynamically, upon demand, ay the proxy endpoint

13:18 schestowitz-TR; it could even be media.techrights.org

13:18 schestowitz-TR; and be its own server software or daemon looking if media.techrights.org/xxxxxxx.jpg

13:18 schestowitz-TR; does correspond to an object over http in techrights.org/xxxxxxx.jpg

13:18 schestowitz-TR; without having to waste space

13:18 schestowitz-TR; basically a protocol converter

13:19 Techrights-sec; The links for the images could point to the other server and be HTTPS / HTTP

13:19 Techrights-sec; instead of converting them

13:22 schestowitz-TR; the gemini clients I tested with would not render, not in line anyway, images that

13:22 schestowitz-TR; are served over protocols other than titan, gopher, gemini etc.

13:22 schestowitz-TR; the idea is to "protect" the user from what we strive to "replace"

13:22 schestowitz-TR; a crazier approach is

13:23 schestowitz-TR; a) use rianne's pi with agate and external drive

13:23 schestowitz-TR; b) instead of drive use /uploads directory from the site

13:23 schestowitz-TR; rsynch overnight

13:23 schestowitz-TR; run over port 1966

13:23 schestowitz-TR; and serve on it media.techrights.org

13:23 schestowitz-TR; then, any attachments [so to speak] from the main site

13:23 schestowitz-TR; would be accessible over media.tr:1966

13:23 schestowitz-TR; with the same path structure

13:25 Techrights-sec; complicated and prone to more race conditions

13:28 schestowitz-TR; the gemini clients I tested with would not render, not in line anyway, images that

13:28 schestowitz-TR; are served over protocols other than titan, gopher, gemini etc.

13:28 schestowitz-TR; the idea is to "protect" the user from what we strive to "replace"

13:28 schestowitz-TR; a crazier approach is

13:28 schestowitz-TR; a) use rianne's pi with agate and external drive

13:28 schestowitz-TR; b) instead of drive use /uploads directory from the site

13:28 schestowitz-TR; rsynch overnight

13:28 schestowitz-TR; run over port 1966

13:28 schestowitz-TR; and serve on it media.techrights.org

13:28 schestowitz-TR; then, any attachments [so to speak] from the main site

13:28 schestowitz-TR; would be accessible over media.tr:1966

13:28 schestowitz-TR; with the same path structure

13:28 schestowitz-TR; aside from the rsync part, deploying the existing 'upload' directory to a pi (32gb) and setting up a gemini account would take

13:28 schestowitz-TR; me less than 1 hour

13:28 schestowitz-TR; then, if the site is offline, there would be alternative access to these objects

13:28 schestowitz-TR; objects that ipfs lacks as it only has the bulletins and irc logs (those are not under 'uploads'

13:28 schestowitz-TR; at the moment, as rianne and I don't know what comes next month, that pi might be used as a VPN and remain on VPN

13:28 schestowitz-TR; most of the time

13:29 Techrights-sec; VPN is useful in some contexts but at the end of the day they exist almost

13:29 Techrights-sec; exclusively because M$ products cant be exposed to the net and the old

13:29 Techrights-sec; 1980s zero trust model was eliminated

13:31 Techrights-sec; all that is managed by role-based authentication, authorization, and acccess

13:31 Techrights-sec; which M$ eliminated in the 00s

13:31 Techrights-sec; The broke the net

13:31 Techrights-sec; ^They

13:33 schestowitz-TR; the use of vpn in our company is complicated

13:33 schestowitz-TR; it is inherited from policies of clients

13:33 schestowitz-TR; and also being able to "shut out" former employees

13:33 schestowitz-TR; removing account works

13:33 schestowitz-TR; but not when the access credential are for companies other than ours

13:33 schestowitz-TR; did you see what mr. krebs wrote about costa rica yesterday?

13:33 schestowitz-TR; it's in my notes now for next Security Leftovers (TM)

13:33 Techrights-sec; no

13:33 Techrights-sec; I'll check

13:33 Techrights-sec; Interesting re-use of the name Hive:

13:33 Techrights-sec; this may suffer reputational damage from all that, though it is not involved:

13:33 Techrights-sec; https://www.hive.fi/

↺ https://www.hive.fi/

13:33 Techrights-sec; Like the "Raspberry" ransomware or whatever that was the other week

13:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.hive.fi | Hive Helsinki

13:36 schestowitz-TR; OK, anyway scrap/shelve that idea about adding TR objects (PDFs, images) to gemini://

13:36 schestowitz-TR; it seems like a simple idea but a lot of work, esp. long-term maintenance

13:36 schestowitz-TR; there are like 50,000 objects there and they are large

13:36 schestowitz-TR; can become a burden on the home network

13:36 schestowitz-TR; maybe next year we'll take a bite againt at fibreoptics

13:36 Techrights-sec; ok

13:36 schestowitz-TR; once it has been more properly tested

13:36 schestowitz-TR; our connection has been very robust during the pandemic times

13:36 schestowitz-TR; don't want to risk that

13:36 schestowitz-TR; also no further outages since last week's incident

13:36 schestowitz-TR; although we had bad, soggy weather, unlike a week ago

13:36 schestowitz-TR; psydroid2: ^^

13:37 schestowitz-TR; discussed here... at the moment

13:37 schestowitz-TR; we only have about 1Mbit UPstream

13:37 psydroid2; oh right

13:37 schestowitz-TR; some images are MBs in size

13:37 psydroid2; so it may be better not to do that

13:37 psydroid2; it wouldn't make sense

13:37 schestowitz-TR; gemini pages are like <10KB

13:41 Techrights-sec; ack

13:42 schestowitz-TR; prior to the next AC meeting, determining the future of "Tony", I expect us to have many textial publications

13:42 schestowitz-TR; lately we've focus on many, many Daily Links

13:42 schestowitz-TR; seeing that other sites are struggling at it

13:42 schestowitz-TR; TuxMachines is 18 shortly

13:44 Techrights-sec; ack


2 PM, June 1

14:39 schestowitz-TR; OTA

14:39 schestowitz-TR; go over gemini

14:39 schestowitz-TR; draft


3 PM, June 1

15:20 Techrights-sec; ack

15:20 Techrights-sec; could use a link to a gemini client

15:21 schestowitz-TR; right, too late now

15:21 schestowitz-TR; meeting i n 10 mins

15:22 schestowitz-TR; wine in the fridge either way

15:22 schestowitz-TR; even if i get my part time freedom

15:22 schestowitz-TR; i always felty it would be imploite to ask

15:22 Techrights-sec; ack

15:22 Techrights-sec; good luck


4 PM, June 1

16:59 schestowitz-TR; i put forth my suggestion of going part time

16:59 schestowitz-TR; it was welcomed by ceo

16:59 schestowitz-TR; but colleagues ... no comment

16:59 Techrights-sec; the colleagues probably do not benefit from a reduction in your hours, both

16:59 Techrights-sec; because of the skillset and experience you have and the extra hours they

16:59 Techrights-sec; will have to cover


5 PM, June 1

17:01 schestowitz-TR; it is worse

17:01 schestowitz-TR; me suggesting this means they too might have to consider thre same

17:01 schestowitz-TR; and I don't know if their spouses are employed

17:01 schestowitz-TR; we would be fine with net 2k instead or ~3k

17:01 schestowitz-TR; for them, under 1k barely covers rent

17:01 schestowitz-TR; they live near london

17:07 schestowitz-TR; ceo loved my suggestion

17:07 schestowitz-TR; welcomed it and mentioned it 3 times, rianne recalls

17:07 schestowitz-TR; calling it "generous"

17:07 schestowitz-TR; I've long wanted to do this

17:07 schestowitz-TR; and now there's a chance to do so without it being "imploite"

17:07 schestowitz-TR; but "generous" :-)

17:07 schestowitz-TR; it's enough to sail into retirement (assuming we stay afloat another 23 years... we turn 24 this year)

17:07 schestowitz-TR; without spending a few hours per week, maybe a net of 1-2 hours a week (net work)

17:07 schestowitz-TR; based on the scoring they showed, I rank high for never taking any sick leave, ever, and working longer than all the colleagues

17:07 schestowitz-TR; you might call it "semi early retirement"

17:07 Techrights-sec; good that it was well received there

17:08 schestowitz-TR; I will finalise my text accordingly maybe 4 weeks from now

17:08 schestowitz-TR; to not say anything that can afford

17:08 schestowitz-TR; *offend (sorry, wine's fault)

17:10 schestowitz-TR; I joins Fed 11 2011 so it's kind of a long-term commitment by today's awful standards (not many people last over a decade;

17:10 schestowitz-TR; for rianne it's her longgest job... second longest was 8.5 years)

17:10 schestowitz-TR; *I joined Feb 2011

17:15 Techrights-sec; ack

17:34 Techrights-sec; does the company have any formally recognized advatages for seniority?

17:35 schestowitz-TR; it is one of the factors in case of redundancies

17:35 schestowitz-TR; among others

17:35 schestowitz-TR; but remember it's a "milking" thing

17:35 schestowitz-TR; no desire to advance

17:35 schestowitz-TR; full-time activism is a lot more important

17:35 schestowitz-TR; but acticism is not a source of income

17:48 Techrights-sec; ack

17:50 schestowitz-TR; also, when you aim low you can end up on top

17:50 schestowitz-TR; when you aim high, you're getting knackered keeping up

17:50 schestowitz-TR; I need all my energy for TR

17:50 schestowitz-TR; rianne for TM

17:50 Techrights-sec; ack

17:50 schestowitz-TR; she took the b runk of my work shifts at times

17:50 schestowitz-TR; *brant

17:50 schestowitz-TR; *brunt

17:51 schestowitz-TR; I do aim high, but not in my job

17:51 Techrights-sec; ack

17:56 Techrights-sec; https://dilbert.com/strip/1995-02-07

↺ https://dilbert.com/strip/1995-02-07

17:56 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Dilbert Comic Strip on 1995-02-07 | Dilbert by Scott Adams

17:59 schestowitz-TR; yes, I did wear better clothes this week

17:59 schestowitz-TR; as there was a meerting coming

17:59 schestowitz-TR; (I had to click continue about 50 times to watch this giuft)


6 PM, June 1

18:01 Techrights-sec; there is no javascript at the above, at least no obligatory js

18:01 schestowitz-TR; many domains

18:03 Techrights-sec; works fine with noscript cranked all the way up

18:04 schestowitz-TR; "better clothes" = mor 'forma'

18:04 schestowitz-TR; not comfortable

18:04 schestowitz-TR; so as to not gives the "slob" impression

18:06 Techrights-sec; ack

18:06 schestowitz-TR; no js plugins tackle one particular problem

18:06 schestowitz-TR; but one of many

18:16 schestowitz-TR; so far this season it has never been warm enough for me to open the door for air rather than "hear the football fans"

18:16 schestowitz-TR; so I've not had a chance to work with the laptop outdoors... since last summer

18:16 schestowitz-TR; i need some direct sun exposure, even if for a short period of time


7 PM, June 1

19:02 Techrights-sec; ack

19:03 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Just now: Cities with Nice Weather gemini://thefringthing.smol.pub/1654091388

↺ gemini://thefringthing.smol.pub/1654091388

19:04 Techrights-sec; time

19:05 Techrights-sec; ack


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