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05/01 The EPO Can Never and Will Never Recover If It Fails to Communicate With People Who Actually Understand the Job of a Patent Office

05/01 [Meme] You Cannot Measure Innovation by the Quantity of Paperwork

05/01 IRC Proceedings: Friday, April 30, 2021

05/01 Links 1/5/2021: Xfdashboard 0.9.3, OpenBSD 6.9 Released, Rocky Linux 8.3 Release Candidate

05/01 6,600 Signatures in Support of Richard Stallman and a Decreasing Number of Haters


05/01 TechBytes Coming Back Shortly

05/02 Audacity for Audio Editing With Free Software Only (GPL)

05/02 The Coup Against Free Software is Not Over

05/02 Richard Stallman: “Google Can Forcibly Impose Software Changes and the User Can’t Say No.”

05/02 IRC Proceedings: Saturday, May 01, 2021



05/02 Links 2/5/2021: “Landlock” in Linux 5.13, Comics, Patents Catch-up

05/02 Links 2/5/2021: OpenIndiana Hipster 2021.04 and New GhostBSD ISO

05/02 It’s Not About Richard Stallman

05/02 Microsoft-Centric “Ransomware Task Force”

05/02 TechBytes Episode 90: “Big Brother That Would Give Mr Orwell Nightmares.”


05/02 Why TechBytes Was on a Break and What Will be Covered Now That It’s Back

05/03 Links 3/5/2021: New in OpenBSD 6.9 and Audacity Acquired By Muse Group

05/03 Adding, Seaming Together, Merging, or Concatenating Videos From the Command Line With FFMPEG (Scripting for Streamlining of Workflows)

05/03 IRC Proceedings: Sunday, May 02, 2021

05/03 Links 3/5/2021: Ubuntu EoL Dates and Nitrux 1.4.0



05/03 Links 3/5/2021: Sparky 5.15, Bill Gates Divorce, Netflix Fraud

05/03 StatCounter: In May 2021 Windows Market Share Falls Sharply to Just 28%, Whereas GNU/Linux Climbs to 2.31% in Desktops/Laptops

05/04 EPO Disregards Animal Welfare

05/04 EPO Already Wasting Money on Media Manipulation Campaigns for European Inventor Award

05/04 IRC Proceedings: Monday, May 03, 2021


05/04 Media Frenzy Around Gates Divorce Helps Distract From Bill’s Crimes

05/04 Links 4/5/2021: Taiwins 0.3, KDE Plasma 5.21.5 Released

05/04 The Timing of This Melinda Gates Tweet Was Always Curious…

05/05 Lessons From Another Failed Coup Against the Free Software Movement

05/05 Links 5/5/2021: StarLabs, GNU Zile 2.6.2, Fedora i3 Spin



05/05 Links 5/5/2021: Windows Security Breaches and GNU Pokology Launched

05/05 IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, May 04, 2021

05/05 Links 5/5/2021: Mesa 21.1 Released and New Releases of Python

05/05 Phony ‘Scandals’ From Phony ‘News’ Site ZDNet

05/06 Links 6/5/2021: Fedora’s Compiler Policy and Celemony Software GmbH Adopting Free Software


05/06 Europe’s Second-Largest Institution Corrupting the Media and Buying Expensive Puff Pieces

05/06 IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, May 05, 2021

05/06 Disregard Web Sites That Call Themselves ‘News’ and Instead Promote Proprietary Software for Companies Like Microsoft

05/06 Free Software Proponents Don’t Fall for Bullshit (Same is True for EPO Examiners)

05/06 [Meme] Who Needs Examination Anyway When There’s ‘Hey Hi’ (AI)?



05/07 The Audacity Takeover by Muse Group is No Cause for Celebration

05/07 Links 7/5/2021: IPFire 2.25 Core Update 156 and Diffoscope 174 Released

05/07 IRC Proceedings: Thursday, May 06, 2021

05/07 King of Linux

05/07 Links 7/5/2021: GNU/Linux Preinstalled, Plamo 7.3, LibreOffice 7.1.3


05/07 “The Lolita Express” and Prince Bill

05/07 The Latest Reports About Bill Gates Serve to Confirm or at Least Reaffirm Many People’s Suspicions

05/07 [Meme] Outsourcing Audacity Development to Microsoft Proprietary Software and Then Copying Microsoft Tactics (and ‘Telemetry’)

05/07 The New Microsoft? No, the New IBM.

05/07 The Biggest Troll is the Linux Foundation, Still Looking to Provoke and Defame Free Software Communities in Order to Help a Monopolistic Takeover and to Shoehorn Tyrants Into Leadership Positions



05/08 The Cancel Song

05/08 Pro-Software Freedom Advocates and Free/Libre Software Supporters Face Barriers Due to Domination of Communication Channels (Beyond the Media)

05/08 Then We Take Berlin…

05/08 Links 8/5/2021: GIMP 2.99.6, Wine 6.8 Released

05/08 GNU/Linux Turns 38 (in 4 Months From Now)


05/08 IRC Proceedings: Friday, May 07, 2021

05/08 Web Sites or News Sites Perish When Their Arguments Are Weak and/or Invalid

05/08 The Right to Assemble, Fundamental Rights of Ownership, and Many Other Rights Are Under Attack

05/08 Richard Stallman: Steve Jobs Did Some Very Bad Things

05/08 GNU/Linux Founder Richard Stallman to Give a Talk at the University of Buckingham Tomorrow (Live Stream)



05/08 Bashing Free Software and GNU/Linux is a Terrible Business Model for Publishers

05/08 TechBytes Episode 91: End of Privacy and End of Windows 10X

05/09 Act More ‘Professional’ to Appease Mobs

05/09 Gemini and Techrights: Still Growing in Gemini Space and Always Supporting/Loving the Protocol

05/09 The Chaos Theory


05/09 IRC Proceedings: Saturday, May 08, 2021

05/09 Links 9/5/2021: KDE Frameworks 5.82.0 Release and Patents Related to COVID Subjected to Waivers

05/09 Richard Stallman’s Free Software Speech in 2020 (FSF Turning 35)

05/09 Some Background on the Free Speech Society at the University of Buckingham, Where Richard Stallman is Being ‘Replatformed’

05/09 How We Process and Upload Videos Hosted in Techrights



05/10 [Meme] Bill Says, Bill Saves

05/10 [Meme] Bill, What’s Your Opinion?

05/10 IRC Proceedings: Sunday, May 09, 2021

05/10 Links 10/5/2021: SystemRescueCD 8.03, KeePass 2.48 Released

05/10 Links 10/5/2021: Huawei’s GNU/Linux Laptops and Kotlin 1.5.0


05/10 According to the Wall Street Journal, Bill Gates’s Relationship with Jeffrey Epstein Caused the Bill-Melinda Divorce (While the Media Deflected to Dr. Stallman, Using a Phony ‘Scandal’)

05/10 Raise the Roof

05/10 Richard Stallman on Writing rm, ls, and cp (Also Working on Bison)

05/10 Richard Stallman Replatformed 10 Hours From Now

05/11 The Next Generation of Free Software (or Software Freedom) Activism, Tackling Newer Problems



05/11 Bill Gates Exposed

05/11 Links 11/5/2021: Bodhi Linux 6.0, Coreboot 4.14, and DragonFly BSD 6.0

05/11 EPO ‘Dialogue’ With Staff Representatives is as Dead as ‘Dialogue’ With the Union

05/11 Europe’s Second-Largest Institution, the EPO, is Partly Based in the United States

05/11 Mass Litigation Over the Salary Adjustment Procedure (SAP), Basically an Attack on All EPO Staff, Even EPO Pensioners


05/11 Keynote by FSF President Geoff Knauth and Executive Director John Sullivan

05/11 IRC Proceedings: Monday, May 10, 2021

05/11 You Look for Linux News and Instead It’s Microsoft Noise and Openwashing

05/11 Links 11/5/2021: Maui 1.2.2 and Tor Releases

05/11 The FSF Needs to Reject OSI (and Open Source) Along With Much-Needed Rejection of the GNOME Foundation (Not the Same as the GNOME Project)



05/11 Last Night’s Talk by Richard Stallman About Software Freedom

05/11 Richard Stallman on Companies That Are “Only Pretending to be American Companies”

05/11 Welcome to ZDNet’s ‘Linux’ Section…

05/12 Personal Thoughts About the EPO ‘Kangaroo Court’ Scandal

05/12 The European Campinos Award


05/12 The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law — Part 3: The Current Line-up

05/12 The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law — Part 2: Just Another Pro Forma Rubber-Stamping Exercise?

05/12 IBM is Destroying Red Hat, Squeezing Red Hat’s Work for Cash, Laying Off Staff, and Asking Staff to Resign

05/12 [Meme] Longing for the Original IP Kat…

05/12 IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, May 11, 2021



05/12 Links 12/5/2021: New Audacity and Musescore Owner Named, Microsoft May Lose “JEDI” (Trump’s ‘Bailout Package’)

05/12 The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law — Part 1: Rumours of a Kangaroo Court at EPOnia

05/12 Why I’m Using Just a Landline and Recalling My Richard Stallman (RMS) Interview on Working Locally or How the Signal Processor in Phones is a De Facto Back Door

05/12 Links 12/5/2021: HAProxy Data Plane API 2.3 and Mousepad 0.5.5

05/12 Doing Justice by Reporting Injustice


05/12 System76’s First Keyboard Packs in Plenty of Surprises

05/13 Links 13/5/2021: OpenSUSE Leap 15.3 on Finer Hardware, AMI Dabbling in Free Firmware

05/13 When EU Authorities Tell You to Complain to the EPO Itself About EPO Privacy Violations…

05/13 The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law — Part 4: The President of the Boards of Appeal

05/13 The Need for Reliable Governance at Freenode



05/13 Links 14/5/2021: KDE Plasma 5.22 Beta and GNOME 40 in Gentoo

05/13 [Meme] eBPF is Not Microsoft’s, But It’s Certainly Googlebombed by Microsoft

05/13 IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, May 12, 2021

05/13 Judging the Judges

05/13 Links 13/5/2021: KDE Gear 21.04.1 and LibreOffice 7.0.6


05/13 Andrew Lee of Private Internet Access/London Trust Media Increasingly Owns and Controls Freenode (Updatedx2)

05/13 Audio: “Unjust Computing Clamps Down” by Richard Stallman

05/13 The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law — Part 5: Battistelli’s “Swedish Chef”

05/14 EPO Justice

05/14 The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law — Part 6: The Habermasian Who Warned About “Legal Anarchy”



05/14 Links 15/5/2021: GCC 8.5, Fedora Community Revamp

05/14 Protecting Freenode is Protecting the Free Software Movement

05/14 Understanding How Freenode (IRC) Works — or Doesn’t Work — in 2021

05/14 IRC Proceedings: Thursday, May 13, 2021

05/14 [Meme] Judges the Office Cannot Control Are Just Nazis With Weapons in Their Office…


05/14 [Meme] Calle Calling…

05/14 Paid-for Plugs and Coordinated Marketing Fluff (PR Campaigns) Are Ruining ‘Linux’ Sites

05/14 Links 14/5/2021: FreeBSD on the Pine H6, Red Hat Hiring

05/14 Nathan Proctor: Right to Repair and the DMCA

05/15 IRC Proceedings: Friday, May 14, 2021



05/15 The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law — Part 7: Calle’s Strange Metamorphosis

05/15 Christoph Ernst Lecturing Us on “Transparency” and EPO Corruption (as Well as Assault on the EPC) Becoming a “New Normal”

05/15 Making up Law at the EPO

05/15 [Meme] When All That Matters is ‘Production’ and ‘Timeliness’

05/15 Links 15/5/2021: Godot 3.3.1 RC 2 and Pine64 Hardware in Focus


05/15 Richard Stallman’s Talk About New/er Risks to Free Software (Free as in Freedom-Respecting, Libre)

05/15 Over a Thousand Videos (or Audio Files) and More Protocols Supported

05/15 Jacques Michel and Willy (Guillaume) Minnoye: Stakeholders in EPO Lawlessness

05/15 The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law — Part 8: The Radical Student “Brotherhood”

05/16 EPO.org is a Really Awful Source of Information



05/16 The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law — Part 9: Squeezing Out the Lifeblood of Democracy?

05/16 Links 16/5/2021: ExTiX 21.5, Drumstick Multiplatform MIDI File Player Refresh

05/16 Haar Song

05/16 IBM Has Changed a Lot Since 2018, and Not for the Better

05/16 IRC Proceedings: Saturday, May 15, 2021


05/16 Luke Smith on Why Free Software Matters and ‘Open Source’ is Meaningless

05/16 Kyle Wiens, CEO of iFixit: Right to Repair

05/16 Combatting Revisionist History (Post From 2015, Years Before IBM Bought Red Hat and Increased Vendor Lock-in)

05/16 [Meme] Criticising IBM is Racist and Intolerant

05/17 (All-Time) Archive of Techrights Videos Contains About 1,000 Videos, All Listed in One Place Now



05/17 Links 17/5/2021: NetBSD 9.2 and Early Look at Bodhi Linux 6.0.0

05/17 Brand as Distraction From the Core Issues Surrounding the Right To Repair

05/17 Calle Josefsson as Living Proof That Attacking the Causes You Once Proclaimed to Stand for is Very Profitable

05/17 The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law — Part 10: A Faustian Pact?

05/17 Richard Stallman Refers to Intel’s Management Engine (ME) — or a Back Door — as ‘Master’, and the Processor Intel Lets Us Use as ‘Slave’


05/17 IRC Proceedings: Sunday, May 16, 2021

05/17 Links 17/5/2021: New GeckoLinux and Kdenlive 21.04.1

05/17 Links 17/5/2021: Linux 5.13 RC2 and a Lot About Patents

05/17 Virtual ‘Courts’ Aren’t Courts and Aren’t Suitable Substitutes, Either

05/17 Right To Repair: When You Don’t Own What You Buy (and Cannot Even Repair It Legally)



05/17 President of the Boards of Appeal, the Star of the Haar Show

05/17 EPO Staff Representatives Not Amused to See an Office That Steals From Staff and Even From Pensioners

05/17 [Meme] Virtual Prisons for Virtual Hearings (Haarings)

05/17 Right To Repair: What It’s About and How That Relates to Software

05/18 FSF Web Site Now Lists the Seven Voting Members, Including Alexandre Oliva, Former Acting FSF President


05/18 [Meme] The Real Gates Scandal is About Connections to Sex Trafficking (Epstein), Not Infidelity

05/18 [Meme] Captured EPO

05/18 António Campinos is Already Worse Than Benoît Battistelli and Maybe More Aggressive as Well

05/18 The EPO Has Slipped Out of Control and Now It’s a Mass Litigation “Mafia” With Immunity

05/18 An Urgent Need to Fix the EPO, Which is Becoming Rogue at Every Level (Even the ‘Legal’ Level)



05/18 The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law — Part 12: Internal Members: Ingo Beckedorf

05/18 IRC Proceedings: Monday, May 17, 2021

05/18 Video and Transcript of Julia Reda’s LibrePlanet Keynote Talk

05/18 Links 18/5/2021: Istio 1.10 and KernelShark 2.0

05/18 Links 18/5/2021: Steam Console and OpenPrinting Developing Upstream CUPS


05/18 Blogging Pioneer Dave Winer: Pleading for Richard Stallman

05/18 6,700 Signatures in Support of Richard Stallman’s Return to the FSF’s Board

05/18 Video: “Unjust Computing Clamps Down” by Richard Stallman

05/18 The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law — Part 11: The Rapporteur Who Once Was Vice-President

05/19 Brodie Robertson: Stallman ISN’T OUT OF TOUCH With Technology!



05/19 The Panic Over Freenode Isn’t Justified and Its Reaction Mostly Disproportionate

05/19 The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law — Part 13: Internal Members: Gunnar Eliasson and Andrea Ritzka

05/19 Say Hey Hi to Inventions and Patents

05/19 IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, May 18, 2021

05/19 Links 19/5/2021: Gentoo/Google, SUSECON Digital


05/19 Linux Foundation as a Farce

05/19 Links 20/5/2021: Mesa 21.1.1 Released and Windows 10X is Dead Already

05/20 Breaking EPO News Regarding G 1/21: Judge Calle Josefsson Deposed as Chairman

05/20 There’s a Staff Exodus at Freenode, But It’s Not a Users Exodus (No Compelling Practical Reasons to Leave)

05/20 IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, May 19, 2021



05/20 [Meme] The EPO’s Very Special Dept. of Justice

05/20 The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law — Part 14: Nemo Iudex in Causa Sua?

05/20 Links 21/5/2021: LibreELEC (Matrix) 10.0 Beta 3 and PostgreSQL 14 Beta 1

05/20 EPO Corruption Impacts Everybody, Even Those Uncaring About Patents and Those Outside Europe

05/21 Links 22/5/2021: antiX 19.4, Perl 5.34.0, and Wine 6.9 Released


05/21 The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law — Part 15: The EBA Letter of 8 December 2014

05/21 Rational Patent Office Gone Irrational

05/21 Leaky and Freaky Patent Office

05/21 The Freenode Users Exodus as Self-Fulfilling Prophecy Boosted by Those Looking to Gain

05/21 IRC Proceedings: Thursday, May 20, 2021



05/21 Links 21/5/2021: Tuxedo Infinity Book Pro 14 and Qualcomm Putting Linux on Chips

05/21 “The Mob Rushes in Where Individuals Fear to Tread.” ― B.F. Skinner, Walden Two

05/22 [Meme] Appeal for Independence

05/22 We Need to Save Europe From the Lawlessness of EPO ‘Mafia’ (Corrupt Management That Doesn’t Understand Patents or Law)

05/22 Freenode Ads/Company Banners Are a 2-Decade Tradition Which Predates PIA/LTM


05/22 Hating Freenode or Its Owner Based on Distorted Version of History

05/22 IRC Proceedings: Friday, May 21, 2021

05/22 Links 22/5/2021: Lakka 3.0, Stable RHEL Release

05/22 Nobody Loves the EPO (or EPC) Like the Staff Representatives and the Union, SUEPO

05/22 Techrights Does Reporting, Not Clickbait or Paid-for Spam



05/22 The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law — Part 16: The Mystery of the “Missing Signatures”

05/23 The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law — Part 17: The External Members: Evangelos Chatzikos and Richard Arnold

05/23 Links 23/5/2021: New Libreboot Release and KDE Goals Update

05/23 Links 23/5/2021: Ardour 6.7 and GNU Parallel 20210522

05/23 The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law — Part 18: Promoting the Illusion of Peace and Haar-mony


05/23 IRC Proceedings: Saturday, May 22, 2021

05/23 EPO Deciding on the Legality of ViCo… Over ViCo

05/23 Using a Single-Board Computer to Monitor IPFS

05/23 [Meme] Judges in Haar Must Behave Themselves

05/23 Article 116(1) EPC and the Stacked Courts Initially Entrusted to Judge Their Own Actions



05/23 [Meme] ViCo: Videoconference as ‘Courtroom’

05/24 Get Ready for a Torrent of EPO Propaganda

05/24 IRC Proceedings: Sunday, May 23, 2021

05/24 Links 24/5/2021: Linux 5.13 RC3 and pgAdmin 4 v5.3

05/24 Links 24/5/2021: OpenMandriva Lx 4.3 RC, GZDoom 4.6.0


05/25 The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law — Part 19: Ladies and Gentlemen, Place Your Bets…

05/25 Deciphering the EPO’s Media Strategy for Handling Its Illegal Practices, Which It Already Extends Until Next Year (Without Even Waiting for the Kangaroo Court’s Ruling)

05/25 An Ode to Jeannine Hoppe and Nikolaus Obrovski

05/25 IRC Proceedings: Monday, May 24, 2021

05/25 Links 25/5/2021: Inkscape 1.1 and LibreOffice 7.2 Alpha 1



05/25 Links 26/5/2021: Magit 3.0 and Chrome 91 Released

05/25 EPO Propaganda, Looking to Legitimise a Rigged Panel of Judges, Starts With Author Who Did Puff Pieces With António Campinos

05/25 USPTO Promotes Microsoft Monopoly and Proprietary Software (Updated)

05/26 Links 26/5/2021: IBM Clown Computing Issues, DMCA Versus Ubuntu ISO

05/26 Media Colluding With EPO Autocrats Who Break the Law, Aiming to Mislead the Public


05/26 Links 27/5/2021: AlmaLinux OS 8.4, Rumours of IBM Layoffs Today

05/26 IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, May 25, 2021

05/26 Outline of Recent EPO Series: Kangaroo Courts, German Government Complicity, and Gross Privacy Violations by Unaccountable Officials

05/26 The Haarian Praetorian Guard

05/26 The EPO’s War on Justice and Assault on the Law — Part 20: Summing up



05/26 The Golden Decision

05/26 They Don’t Want Us to Hear…

05/27 When the Lips of António Campinos Move…

05/27 IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, May 26, 2021

05/27 Latest News on G 1/21: Another Spanner in the Works


05/27 How to Sign the Letter in Support of Richard Stallman Without Microsoft’s GitHub

05/27 Managing Perceptions for the EPO’s Regime

05/27 Postscriptum: Carl Josefsson Sidelined From G 1/21!

05/27 Links 28/5/2021: TDF Annual Report, VzLinux 8.3, FSF’s Search for Executive Director

05/27 Links 27/5/2021: WordPress at 18 and GNU/Linux in Schools



05/28 Links 28/5/2021: Nitrux 1.4, Diffoscope 176

05/28 Why Use Gemini (Plus a Techrights Mention)

05/28 President Campinos is Finished (EPO Crisis Afoot)

05/28 [Meme] Outsourced Panel to Decide on Legality of Outsourced Panels

05/28 Breaking: G1/21 (ViCo Hearing) Going Down the Drain


05/28 Old Video Explaining Software Patents

05/28 IRC Proceedings: Thursday, May 27, 2021

05/28 Old Talk by Dr. Richard Stallman About How Patents Work

05/28 Links 28/5/2021: GNU/Linux in Punjabi University, More on WordPress at 18

05/29 Updates on Techrights Videos, Techrights IPFS, Techrights Gemini, Techrights Bulletins, and Techrights IRC



05/29 Links 29/5/2021: OpenZFS 2.1 RC6 and AlmaLinux 8.4

05/29 [Meme] EPO Bad for Your Health (Even as President)

05/29 President of the Boards of Appeal and His ‘Handler’ António Campinos Need to Step Down to Save the EPO

05/29 Freenode is Not Dying, the Media is Just Lying

05/29 IBM Layoffs/Redundancies Rumours (2021)


05/29 IRC Proceedings: Friday, May 28, 2021

05/30 Alexandre Oliva: A Conversation With Richard Stallman

05/30 The Internet Was Made to be Decentralised and We Need to Re-decentralise It

05/30 IRC Proceedings: Saturday, May 29, 2021

05/30 Links 30/5/2021: Kaidan 0.8 and Linux 5.14 Work



05/31 Links 31/5/2021: Firefox 89 and Public Holidays

05/31 Links 31/5/2021: 4MLinux 36.1, BlankOn 12 Beta, Linux 5.13 RC4, GNU M4 1.4.19 and Gnuastro 0.15

05/31 A Need for Clarity on the Direction of LibreOffice

05/31 IRC Proceedings: Sunday, May 30, 2021

05/31 Linux Foundation Has Killed the Linux Brand (in Pursuit of Short-Term Profits)


05/31 Free Software: The Foundation of Freedom in Your Computing (Richard Stallman @ Free Speech Society, University of Buckingham, May 2021)

05/31 This Page Has Richard Stallman’s Talk (11:00PM GMT, Later Today)

05/31 Freedom First: Towards Self-Hosting and Federating/Communicating Across IRC Networks


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