[2022-08-29T00:27:13Z] Hi [2022-08-29T00:28:11Z] Hi [2022-08-29T00:54:34Z] christ i can't believe i'm having more trouble with GNU ar than GCC [2022-08-29T01:00:51Z] Their Tar uses octal encoding, so... [2022-08-29T01:04:22Z] ar, not tar [2022-08-29T01:04:27Z] as in from the binutils [2022-08-29T01:04:45Z] libtool (and by extension every program that relies on a GNU-generated configure script) relies on it being GNU ar [2022-08-29T01:12:35Z] Indeed [2022-08-29T01:15:40Z] screeeeeee I can't even build Athena without autotools [2022-08-29T01:15:52Z] how is software this unbased [2022-08-29T01:18:12Z] cc *.c [2022-08-29T01:18:46Z] That one is new to me, what does the Athena program do? [2022-08-29T01:20:34Z] Athena is the reference widget toolkit distributed as part of the standard X11 distribution [2022-08-29T01:20:42Z] its library name is Xaw [2022-08-29T01:20:45Z] "X Athena Widgets" [2022-08-29T01:20:55Z] so called because they were a product of MIT Project Athena [2022-08-29T01:21:38Z] if you've ever used XTerm or XCalc, you've used Athena [2022-08-29T01:22:16Z] So Athena was everpresent, eh [2022-08-29T01:22:39Z] they're primitive, but they have a number of important advantages over other widget sets: they're not encumbered by any unfavorable license, their codebase is very, very small compared to most widget sets, they're very efficient, very simply API... [2022-08-29T01:22:52Z] and yes, Athena is more common than people realize, even if it's mostly fallen out of use [2022-08-29T01:26:08Z] "unbased", noticed just now. Lol [2022-08-29T01:26:25Z] one interesting party trick that athena is (seemingly uniquely) able to pull off is ABI compatibility between wholly different implementations [2022-08-29T01:26:39Z] Mit'n Ibm teamed up, eh. [2022-08-29T01:26:46Z] DEC, as well [2022-08-29T01:27:04Z] midfavila: Do u mean implementations of the X protocol? [2022-08-29T01:30:15Z] no, I mean implementations of the Athena widget toolkit [2022-08-29T01:30:28Z] Xaw, Xaw3d, Xaw3dXft, neXtaw, Xaw95, and so on [2022-08-29T01:30:54Z] all with different looks and (sometimes) different feels, yet so long as you restrict yourself to the widgets provided by Xaw, they're all binary compatible [2022-08-29T01:31:14Z] doesn't matter *too* much in the real world, but it's neat [2022-08-29T01:32:36Z] Nice [2022-08-29T01:45:17Z] https://forums.freebsd.org/attachments/xaw3d-2-png.10890 [2022-08-29T01:46:17Z] it can be pretty comfy, but it definitely shows its age in some places [2022-08-29T01:48:05Z] fortunately, between its simple API and the fact that it's built directly atop Xt, it's not hard to add widgets or modify existing ones [2022-08-29T01:48:07Z] ...or so I hear [2022-08-29T01:55:39Z] Retro look [2022-08-29T01:56:00Z] TempleOS look [2022-08-29T08:01:34Z] Good afternoon ( ' - ')/ [2022-08-29T08:03:23Z] hi goodnight (-_-)/ [2022-08-29T08:03:33Z] * hi goodnight (-_-)/ [2022-08-29T08:07:13Z] waiting around for software from accross the planet ~ - ~ [2022-08-29T08:29:40Z] You need to enable "HTTP Protocol Stack Support" in your UEFI. [2022-08-29T08:44:04Z] where should i get regulatory.db and regulatory.db.p7s from? ive needed it before for wireless networking but it was supplied by the systems pm [2022-08-29T11:56:26Z] lylac, regulatort.db should be found on kernel.org git server. i used to use it before, but I figured out I didnt need it after all gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~phoebos/logs/kisslinux-2022-08-29.txt

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