2021-01-05T00:28:03 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> i am more of a “set it and forget it” kinda guy :). also, i generally hate autcmds and keep my vimrc to a minimal, but was forced to do something when i started out writing K1SS wiki articles... Dylan showed me no slack back then lol.
2021-01-05T00:40:19 #kisslinux <acheam> mcpcpc[m]: I'm guilty of being the exact opposite. my init.vim is 372 lines right now, and has lots of bulky plugins like coc
2021-01-05T00:42:44 #kisslinux <acheam> There are a lot of comments and whitespace in there though
2021-01-05T00:43:11 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> dang. yeah. i actually started out with ~100 lines. but this is what i have been running with lately: https://mcpcpc.com/2020/12/07/vim-minimum-vimrc.html.  3 line ~ 16 commands.
2021-01-05T00:51:25 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> although, i do most of my development on remote systems with variable connectivity.  so i basically had to go lean at some point.
2021-01-05T00:51:49 #kisslinux <acheam> Why do you develop remotely?
2021-01-05T01:00:54 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> matter of preference really.  i like the flexibility of being able to access my development system from anywhere and from any machine with internet access. i’ve been doing this for a little over a year now and see no reason to go back.
2021-01-05T01:02:50 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> i started before COVID, when i was moving around quite a bit.
2021-01-05T01:03:37 #kisslinux * acheam starts considering doing this
2021-01-05T01:04:17 #kisslinux <acheam> Do you SSH in, or Apache Guacamole, or what?
2021-01-05T01:05:40 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> ssh mostly
2021-01-05T01:06:13 #kisslinux <acheam> how do you test software like xwm?
2021-01-05T01:09:48 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> ssh+screen+x11vnc primarily on a KISS machine. VMs as well. i switch it up. experimenting with a Linode+docker to
2021-01-05T01:09:48 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> host various containers for cross-platform verification and packaging.
2021-01-05T01:11:30 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> ssh+screen+x11vnc split screen on an a tablet works fairly well.
2021-01-05T01:19:02 #kisslinux <acheam> that feels like a bit of a pain
2021-01-05T01:25:38 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> can be. lol.  i am still experimenting with different options.  but the biggest benefit so far is not having one dedicated machine to develop from.  Also, the gear that travel with ends up being fairly lightweight as a result (obviously, not much travel as of late).
2021-01-05T01:28:34 #kisslinux <acheam> I see that for sure. Maybe i'll set that up after COVID, when i'm not so tied to my laptop
2021-01-05T01:30:20 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> yeah... no real reason to even consider it if u aren’t going anywhere lol.
2021-01-05T01:30:54 #kisslinux <acheam> hey, I'm going all the way from my couch to the fridge and back!
2021-01-05T01:32:18 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> haha. yes. that counts. maybe even outside to check the mail?  now that’s a real adventure. =P
2021-01-05T01:49:38 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> has anyone here experimented with 9front (or any plan9 derivative) as a main OS? i installed it just to see how rio works and i am fascinated by the fact that i have a full WM experience from a tty-equivalent.  this is black magic to me...
2021-01-05T02:04:17 #kisslinux <acheam> Not sure if anyone is crazy enough to use it as a main OS :}. If you like rio, there is a Wayland "port" called wio. https://wio-project.org/
2021-01-05T02:13:15 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> nice. i am not ready to take the wayland “plunge” just yet though =P.
2021-01-05T02:49:31 #kisslinux <acheam> not ready to take the Wayaland plunge, but interested in 9front as a main OS? Seems like a much bigger leap
2021-01-05T03:15:47 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> most of my programs were developed using the XCB protocol. so switching to Wayland is pretty significant to me ^^.  i am only looking at 9front with fascination, more so than using it as a daily driver.
2021-01-05T03:18:50 #kisslinux <acheam> mcpcpc[m]: right, was just joking :)
2021-01-05T03:22:05 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> this is kinda cool... a complete WM over a pseudo-tty.  i am not sure if there are any linux WMs that can do this... https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mcpcpc/mcpcpc.github.io/main/assets/9front-mothra.png
2021-01-05T03:23:06 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> acheam: doh. yes.  =S
2021-01-05T11:47:53 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> https://github.com/git-bruh/repo/commit/02166d1
2021-01-05T11:47:59 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> can someone check if this mesa works fine?
2021-01-05T11:48:15 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> builds fine for me but i cant check it since i am using nvidia drivers
2021-01-05T14:33:27 #kisslinux <claudia02> testuser[m]_ The mesa update works fine on my end. (intel graphics)
2021-01-05T14:35:44 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> thanks claudia02
2021-01-05T15:54:55 #kisslinux <micr0> acheam how would you feel about renaming the builder from a tag to a separate image name and using dates as tags
2021-01-05T15:55:40 #kisslinux <micr0> so armaanb/kiss-builder:2021.1 instead of armaanb/kiss:builder
2021-01-05T16:27:51 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/841664/0ba4265680b9dadf/ hmm
2021-01-05T16:29:56 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> anyone deciphered the cryptic message on dylan's homepage already?
2021-01-05T16:31:58 #kisslinux <acheam> micr0: what about armaanb/kiss:builder-2021.1
2021-01-05T16:32:04 #kisslinux <acheam> is there a 2021.1 now?
2021-01-05T16:34:40 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> sh4rm4^bnc: all of that text  was just randomly added in one commit so i have no idea how someone can make anything out of it :/
2021-01-05T16:35:16 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> i'm pretty sure it's some sort of message about his whereabouts
2021-01-05T16:35:38 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> maybe he fled from vaccination
2021-01-05T16:47:33 #kisslinux <kiedtl> The one on dylan.k1ss.org?
2021-01-05T16:48:09 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> Yeah
2021-01-05T16:48:35 #kisslinux <kiedtl> when did mandatory vaccination reach greece?
2021-01-05T16:50:28 #kisslinux <kiedtl> testuser[m]_: where's the Git repo that contains the source for that? I can't seem to find it in either dylanaraps/blag or kisslinux/website
2021-01-05T16:51:06 #kisslinux <micr0> acheam that is good to
2021-01-05T16:51:14 #kisslinux <micr0> just anyway I can give a specific version at a time
2021-01-05T16:51:22 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> kiedtl: https://github.com/dylanaraps/dylan.k1ss.org/commit/66e96f278cbb207632accabcc3ec7723725b404f
2021-01-05T16:51:23 #kisslinux <acheam> micr0: :thumbs-up:
2021-01-05T16:51:23 #kisslinux <micr0> and there is no 2020.1 I was just giving an example
2021-01-05T16:51:33 #kisslinux <acheam> should we consider creating one?
2021-01-05T16:52:29 #kisslinux <acheam> It seems in the past releases were comming pretty frequently, and now  its been 4 months
2021-01-05T16:53:21 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> There haven't been many changes other than package updates
2021-01-05T16:57:43 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> 001 became 112, 047 GPG... maybe that's a hint how the text can be deciphered
2021-01-05T16:58:11 #kisslinux <kiedtl> hm
2021-01-05T16:58:30 #kisslinux <kiedtl> I"m looking at git log -p now
2021-01-05T16:58:50 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> i did the same, but with gitk :)
2021-01-05T16:59:42 #kisslinux <kiedtl> I've never heard of gitk until now lol
2021-01-05T17:00:07 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> it's shipped togehter with git sources, so it seems to be the "official" gui
2021-01-05T17:00:23 #kisslinux <konimex> <testuser[m]_ "https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/8"> so, switch to openssl?
2021-01-05T17:00:24 #kisslinux <kiedtl> rather annoying how every commit is named "docs: update" or just "update"
2021-01-05T17:01:03 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> it's probably part of the game. maybe the typo gref -> href wasn't an accident either ?
2021-01-05T17:06:33 #kisslinux <kiedtl> poor commit messages are the hallmark of many of dylan's repos
2021-01-05T17:06:38 #kisslinux <kiedtl> not all
2021-01-05T17:06:49 #kisslinux <kiedtl> but many, such as his dotfiles, bin scripts, etc
2021-01-05T17:07:52 #kisslinux <acheam> i'm guilty of that on my personal git repos
2021-01-05T17:08:04 #kisslinux <kiedtl> dylan has a bin script for that
2021-01-05T17:08:09 #kisslinux <kiedtl> "git commit -am 'docs: update"
2021-01-05T17:08:25 #kisslinux <kiedtl> as do I
2021-01-05T17:08:27 #kisslinux <kiedtl> lol
2021-01-05T17:08:35 #kisslinux <acheam> I do the same lol. My private git dotfiles repo automatically sets the commit message as just the ISO8601 timestamp
2021-01-05T17:08:48 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> git commit -a is a bad habit
2021-01-05T17:08:59 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> checks in all sorts of junk lying around
2021-01-05T17:09:03 #kisslinux <kiedtl> True
2021-01-05T17:09:22 #kisslinux <kiedtl> it's terribly annoying when I have multiple changes I want to commit, and I accidentally 'git commit -a' them all
2021-01-05T17:09:28 #kisslinux <kiedtl> at once
2021-01-05T17:09:42 #kisslinux <acheam> just `git reset`?
2021-01-05T17:09:43 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Wow, dylan couldn't seem to decide how his website should look
2021-01-05T17:09:46 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> i got to love git add --patch
2021-01-05T17:10:40 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> allows to add unrelated hunks from a big diff as single commits, one can even shrink the diff size
2021-01-05T17:11:04 #kisslinux <kiedtl> same
2021-01-05T17:13:51 #kisslinux <micr0> i miss this page https://github.com/dylanaraps/dylan.k1ss.org/blob/3165d637c6c6ab6bb4bca4b555e49811e6e46a8c/site/post/9999.md
2021-01-05T17:18:05 #kisslinux <kiedtl> I wonder if dylan had a vim plugin to do a git commit every time he hit :w
2021-01-05T17:19:46 #kisslinux <acheam> au BufWritePost * !sh -c "git commit -a -m "update" && git push"
2021-01-05T17:20:04 #kisslinux <acheam> one-liner to put in your vimrc :)
2021-01-05T17:20:17 #kisslinux <kiedtl> please kill me and put me out of my misery
2021-01-05T17:21:10 #kisslinux <kiedtl> micr0: I miss the 9998.md page
2021-01-05T17:21:51 #kisslinux <acheam> kiedtl: im going to twist the knife and fix a typo: au BufWritePost * !sh -c "git commit -a -m 'update' && git push"
2021-01-05T17:22:31 #kisslinux <kiedtl> nou stahp, may your kernel panic and your beard fall off
2021-01-05T17:30:37 #kisslinux <micr0> git add --interactive --patch is a good habit
2021-01-05T17:32:17 #kisslinux <kiedtl> sh4rm4^bnc: Are you sure those numbers mean anything at all? it looks like Dylan got bored of having just 1-90 on his page and added some rnadom numbers
2021-01-05T17:32:57 #kisslinux <acheam> how is that better than just `git add foo/bar`?
2021-01-05T17:34:48 #kisslinux <acheam> kiedtl: why even number like that though?
2021-01-05T17:36:27 #kisslinux <kiedtl> I don't know why one would have the numbers 1 to 99 on their website
2021-01-05T17:36:39 #kisslinux <kiedtl> but my point is that the numbers there now could be just completely random
2021-01-05T17:42:56 #kisslinux <micr0> https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/6799467/89662829-55f96080-d8dd-11ea-84bf-8524f8852910.png this brings back huge memories but i cant remember what game
2021-01-05T17:44:07 #kisslinux <micr0> it was some multiplayer zelda-like mmo
2021-01-05T17:47:27 #kisslinux <micr0> https://classic.graalonline.com/ !!!!
2021-01-05T17:47:35 #kisslinux <micr0> supposedly dylan did the art?
2021-01-05T17:47:37 #kisslinux <micr0> i remember modding that game
2021-01-05T17:47:41 #kisslinux <micr0> holy shit
2021-01-05T22:09:29 #kisslinux <onodera> the code doesn't look random
2021-01-05T22:09:35 #kisslinux <onodera> cracking it would be a fun project
2021-01-05T22:24:59 #kisslinux <onodera> https://camille.sh/fzb4.txt
2021-01-05T22:25:07 #kisslinux <onodera> found a kind of pattern
2021-01-05T22:51:02 #kisslinux <acheam> onodera: I dont really see it?
2021-01-05T22:52:42 #kisslinux <an3223> me neither
2021-01-05T22:53:37 #kisslinux <kiedtl> ^^^
2021-01-05T22:53:49 #kisslinux <kiedtl> but yeah, maybe it's not random. idk.
2021-01-05T22:54:13 #kisslinux <kiedtl> oh, it the pattern the alphabetic characters in the sets?
2021-01-05T22:54:33 #kisslinux <kiedtl> 55A, B55, 11C, ...
2021-01-05T22:54:35 #kisslinux <acheam> I get the motivation behind it being a pattern, no clue why he would just do random
2021-01-05T22:54:56 #kisslinux <kiedtl> it looked like an encrypted calendar to me the first time I saw it.
2021-01-05T22:55:17 #kisslinux <kiedtl> ooh
2021-01-05T22:55:37 #kisslinux <kiedtl> I wonder if...
2021-01-05T23:00:06 #kisslinux <acheam> ...
2021-01-05T23:01:15 #kisslinux <kiedtl> I was wondering if the message, if there really is one, would be in Greek, not English
2021-01-05T23:01:33 #kisslinux <kiedtl> and whether the three sets of characters at the bottom could be a signature or a date/timestamp of some sort
2021-01-05T23:02:03 #kisslinux <acheam> hmmm yeah it could be greek
2021-01-05T23:02:55 #kisslinux <kiedtl> From what I've seen of Dylan personally, he seemed really excited about being in Greece, and learning that language
2021-01-05T23:03:03 #kisslinux <kiedtl> it's just a guess though
2021-01-05T23:03:08 #kisslinux <onodera> https://camille.sh/pqTt.txt
2021-01-05T23:03:20 #kisslinux <onodera> I just organized the numbers and letters to see if there is a pattern
2021-01-05T23:03:25 #kisslinux <onodera> slight, but I dunno
2021-01-05T23:03:28 #kisslinux <onodera> probably jsut random
2021-01-05T23:04:29 #kisslinux <kiedtl> It would be annoying if we succeeded in decrypting the message after many weeks of hard work, and found it just read "DYLAN ARAPS"
2021-01-05T23:04:41 #kisslinux <onodera> hahaha
2021-01-05T23:07:24 #kisslinux <acheam> lol
2021-01-05T23:07:47 #kisslinux <acheam> now i'm considering putting a similar puzzle on my website
2021-01-05T23:12:29 #kisslinux <kiedtl> just `head -c256 /dev/urandom | tr -dc A-Z0-9 | sed 's/(...)/1 /g` five times on a page, and offer 1.2 BTC as a reward for deciphering it
2021-01-05T23:13:37 #kisslinux <acheam> lol. Not sure it would be too believable though, coming from me
2021-01-05T23:18:25 #kisslinux <micr0> btw honestly might be a good idea to archive/fork all of dylans repos in case he just deletes it all
2021-01-05T23:18:46 #kisslinux <micr0> then again, might want to respect his wishes if that happens and not publish what you archive
2021-01-05T23:19:29 #kisslinux <acheam> I think hes made it clear in the past that he would like his software to live beyond him, so I wouldn't see a problem in it
2021-01-05T23:19:32 #kisslinux <kiedtl> oh no, why would he do that?
2021-01-05T23:19:42 #kisslinux <kiedtl> what ach3am said
2021-01-05T23:25:42 #kisslinux <micr0> im just speculating
2021-01-05T23:59:27 #kisslinux <micr0> anyone have experience running mako/basu
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