2020-11-09T03:01:41 #kisslinux <dilyn> dylanaraps: I hope you don't mind but I sort of heavily stole your website infrastructure and design for my own website :o
2020-11-09T03:01:47 #kisslinux <dilyn> I appreciate your work <3
2020-11-09T03:04:40 #kisslinux <mcpcp> he is an influencer for sure =P
2020-11-09T03:05:36 #kisslinux <dilyn> I just don't enjoy html on such a level that when the opportunity for a simple text display style appears...
2020-11-09T03:05:46 #kisslinux <dilyn> like I did enough html work with my myspace page. i'm tired of it
2020-11-09T03:08:26 #kisslinux <mcpcp> lol. man.  myspace.  now those were the days
2020-11-09T03:09:26 #kisslinux <dilyn> i miss 2006 :'(
2020-11-09T03:25:36 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> dilyn: i tend to agree on the simple text sites.  it’s an art form if you get it it right.
2020-11-09T03:27:05 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> this is probably one of my favorites that i stumbled across recently: https://mayvaneday.art
2020-11-09T03:27:56 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> it has changed a bit though recently. looks more heavy on the html. :(
2020-11-09T03:28:21 #kisslinux <dilyn> my phone says it can't be reached (:
2020-11-09T03:28:40 #kisslinux <dilyn> will check it out later tho. simple sights are wonderful to behold
2020-11-09T03:29:13 #kisslinux <dilyn> dylan's format works great simply because i essentially just want to host my college papers and have blog posts, so a wiki and a blog are all i need
2020-11-09T03:29:31 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> nice. yeah. that makes sens
2020-11-09T03:35:28 #kisslinux <dilyn> weirdly i can't access that site via my wifi but can with a data connection on my phone
2020-11-09T03:35:37 #kisslinux <dilyn> it looks like something i would make myself xD big ups
2020-11-09T03:39:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> dilynm: np
2020-11-09T03:48:24 #kisslinux <muevoid> hey dylanaraps with flatpak have you ever ran into an issue where the keyboard works but mouse doesn't?
2020-11-09T03:48:30 #kisslinux <muevoid> also opening up a pr here in a minute
2020-11-09T03:49:30 #kisslinux <mcpcp> .
2020-11-09T04:10:15 #kisslinux <midfavila> Anyone here have luck getting Netsurf running?
2020-11-09T04:10:20 #kisslinux <muevoid> Or has anyone else had that issue? Trying to get a gog game running through flatpak keyboard works but no mouse even tried a different mouse.
2020-11-09T04:10:26 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yes midfavila I don't use it anymore
2020-11-09T04:10:40 #kisslinux <muevoid> But it was in community a while ago you can steal it from there
2020-11-09T04:11:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> Oh, nice. Do you happen to know if/where the community repo is archived?
2020-11-09T04:11:38 #kisslinux <muevoid> When I did it I just cloned the repo and did git log and checkout the respective commit
2020-11-09T04:11:56 #kisslinux <midfavila> Huh. git keeps surprising me with the features it has
2020-11-09T04:11:59 #kisslinux <midfavila> I need to use it more often
2020-11-09T04:12:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> Thanks for the tip, muevoid
2020-11-09T04:12:14 #kisslinux <muevoid> Np
2020-11-09T04:12:30 #kisslinux <midfavila> pale meme is too bloat for me
2020-11-09T04:12:57 #kisslinux <muevoid> I don't like palemoon lol
2020-11-09T04:13:01 #kisslinux <midfavila> that's fair
2020-11-09T04:13:01 #kisslinux <muevoid> But yeah netsurf is nice
2020-11-09T04:13:12 #kisslinux <midfavila> honestly my initial impressions of netsurf were really good
2020-11-09T04:13:19 #kisslinux <muevoid> I would've kept using it but I need to be able to access vultr
2020-11-09T04:13:23 #kisslinux <muevoid> Only website preventing me
2020-11-09T04:13:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> basic JS, CSS, and HTML5 is all I need
2020-11-09T04:13:39 #kisslinux <midfavila> because at this point my browser is an overgrown media player
2020-11-09T04:13:42 #kisslinux <muevoid> The js support is basically non existent in netsurf so you know
2020-11-09T04:13:54 #kisslinux <midfavila> if it's better than Dillo that's all I need
2020-11-09T04:13:56 #kisslinux <midfavila> :P
2020-11-09T04:14:11 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah like I said it's good but don't expect youtube or anything to work
2020-11-09T04:14:22 #kisslinux <midfavila> I just use Invidious
2020-11-09T04:14:26 #kisslinux <midfavila> no need for JS there
2020-11-09T04:14:49 #kisslinux <muevoid> I've never tried it but you still might have issues but it basically takes no time to compile so worth trying
2020-11-09T04:14:53 #kisslinux <muevoid> It's a good browser though
2020-11-09T04:15:01 #kisslinux <midfavila> Well, I used it for a little bit on CRUX
2020-11-09T04:16:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> Oh, hey, it's actually still in community. Just the framebuffer version
2020-11-09T04:16:08 #kisslinux <midfavila> should only need a few minor tweaks
2020-11-09T04:16:28 #kisslinux <muevoid> Oh yeah I forgot someone took the framebuffer version back into community
2020-11-09T04:16:53 #kisslinux <midfavila> I guess KISS folks are fans of Netsurf then
2020-11-09T04:20:32 #kisslinux <muevoid> Could it be since on KISS there is no input group by default therefore can't read /dev/event*? dylanaraps
2020-11-09T04:26:08 #kisslinux <muevoid> no im just stupid
2020-11-09T04:26:32 #kisslinux <muevoid> I still don't know why its not working but its not because of that. That's the whole point of something like seatd. I'm facepalming myself
2020-11-09T04:26:48 #kisslinux <midfavila> rip
2020-11-09T04:27:47 #kisslinux <muevoid> the thing I find most confusing is that keyboard works but not mouse
2020-11-09T04:47:34 #kisslinux <muevoid> Anyone have any ideas on how to debug this?
2020-11-09T04:48:58 #kisslinux <midfavila> I wouldn't, sorry
2020-11-09T04:49:53 #kisslinux <muevoid> No worries
2020-11-09T04:50:11 #kisslinux <midfavila> I did get Netsurf up and running though; it's a really cute little browser
2020-11-09T04:50:50 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah I used it for a bit even on wayland
2020-11-09T04:50:53 #kisslinux <muevoid> due to mcf
2020-11-09T04:51:17 #kisslinux <midfavila> mcf?
2020-11-09T04:51:50 #kisslinux <muevoid> the user on here
2020-11-09T04:51:55 #kisslinux <muevoid> He does a lot of awesome work
2020-11-09T04:51:59 #kisslinux <midfavila> Oooh. I don't think I've met them
2020-11-09T04:52:12 #kisslinux <muevoid> they made oasis linux and made samurai
2020-11-09T04:52:33 #kisslinux <midfavila> I only know of samurai, but hey, that's still pretty nifty
2020-11-09T04:52:41 #kisslinux <midfavila> more than I've done, kek
2020-11-09T04:52:55 #kisslinux <muevoid> They also made swc(a library for making wayland compositors)
2020-11-09T04:53:12 #kisslinux <muevoid> They've done a lot of cool things
2020-11-09T04:53:32 #kisslinux * midfavila nods
2020-11-09T04:54:08 #kisslinux <muevoid> Lol
2020-11-09T04:54:32 #kisslinux <midfavila> Honestly, I doubt I'll switch to Wayland any time soon
2020-11-09T04:54:45 #kisslinux <midfavila> seems like everything is a tiler, if you're not a GNOME person
2020-11-09T04:55:31 #kisslinux <muevoid> Hikari is pretty cool
2020-11-09T04:55:32 #kisslinux <muevoid> and stacking
2020-11-09T04:55:44 #kisslinux <muevoid> I don't use it but dilynm could probably tell you more
2020-11-09T04:55:58 #kisslinux <midfavila> I'll look into it now
2020-11-09T04:56:04 #kisslinux <midfavila> I'm already stuck with FVWM though :P
2020-11-09T04:56:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> that and XDM. I'm probably the only person alive who actually likes it
2020-11-09T04:58:08 #kisslinux <muevoid> Lol fair enough
2020-11-09T04:58:34 #kisslinux <midfavila> ...also, wow, their CoC
2020-11-09T04:58:36 #kisslinux <midfavila> that's uh, something
2020-11-09T04:58:45 #kisslinux <muevoid> I'm even more confused now a different flatpak works with the mouse :(
2020-11-09T04:59:01 #kisslinux <midfavila> flatpak is always gross and weird
2020-11-09T04:59:10 #kisslinux <muevoid> I know but I have no other option in this case
2020-11-09T05:31:49 #kisslinux <muevoid> I think the bug is to do with SDL2 it seems any sdl2 flatpak's don't work properly with the mouse
2020-11-09T05:55:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> muevoid: Thanks
2020-11-09T06:01:00 #kisslinux <muevoid> Np
2020-11-09T06:01:30 #kisslinux <muevoid> hmmm
2020-11-09T06:01:42 #kisslinux <muevoid> I may have figured out issue but don't know how to fix it
2020-11-09T06:02:37 #kisslinux <muevoid> I think I need to figure out how to get flatpak-builder to build on kiss
2020-11-09T06:02:39 #kisslinux <muevoid> to fix this
2020-11-09T06:04:05 #kisslinux <muevoid> Does anyone know if you can force flatpak to use a system library on the host?
2020-11-09T06:05:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> muevoid: I doubt that's possible
2020-11-09T06:06:37 #kisslinux <midfavila> I was gonna say. Isn't the whole point of Flatpak and friends to isolate programs from the host system?
2020-11-09T06:06:48 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah I thought so just stumped on how to fix this
2020-11-09T06:06:52 #kisslinux <midfavila> distribute it with everything it needs in a single package and whatnot
2020-11-09T06:11:42 #kisslinux <muevoid> Also I didn't see if you responded yesterday are you still on wayland dylanaraps?
2020-11-09T06:12:35 #kisslinux <muevoid> The fact that everything is bundled stumps me more onto why mouse wouldn't work
2020-11-09T06:13:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> muevoid: Yeah
2020-11-09T06:14:03 #kisslinux <muevoid> Did you ever check out the latest master of oguri?
2020-11-09T06:14:07 #kisslinux <muevoid> The memory issue is fixed
2020-11-09T06:14:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That's great
2020-11-09T06:14:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I still don't like the whole wallpaper-as-a-daemon idea though
2020-11-09T06:14:46 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah fair enough
2020-11-09T06:15:36 #kisslinux <muevoid> I mean isn't it technically one on xorg? I'm not sure how it works exactly but basically xorg always has a root window and basically all wallpaper setters just use ipc or something to set it?
2020-11-09T06:16:29 #kisslinux <muevoid> so the wallpaper themselves aren't daemons but the window that has the wallpaper itself is kind of one?
2020-11-09T06:16:32 #kisslinux <muevoid> I'm not sure
2020-11-09T06:23:54 #kisslinux <muevoid> Do you still planning on going back to xorg?
2020-11-09T06:25:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yeah
2020-11-09T06:25:52 #kisslinux <muevoid> Fair enough
2020-11-09T06:26:06 #kisslinux <muevoid> I can't switch back at this point lol far too invested
2020-11-09T06:26:30 #kisslinux <muevoid> However I am considering adding a banned directory in my repo that has wayland with xorg support
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