2020-10-31T00:00:01 #kisslinux <dilyn> mid 2014 macbook pro
2020-10-31T00:00:13 #kisslinux <muevoid> Would you mind testing something for me I don't have any older machines to test on
2020-10-31T00:00:26 #kisslinux <dilyn> lmfao aaaaahhh when 2014 is 'old' :'(
2020-10-31T00:00:29 #kisslinux <dilyn> sure!
2020-10-31T00:00:30 #kisslinux <muevoid> Lmao
2020-10-31T00:00:37 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> here's my list of gui progs: lxde, gimp, wireshark, palemoon, netsurf, gnumeric, abiword, ixchat, geany, bluefish, sweep, mpv, xterm. all use either gtk+2 or x11
2020-10-31T00:00:43 #kisslinux <midfavila> mfw I still use a laptop from 06
2020-10-31T00:01:07 #kisslinux <muevoid> Could you test out vinox and https://github.com/muevoid/BunnymarkE
2020-10-31T00:01:16 #kisslinux <muevoid> it only needs glfw
2020-10-31T00:01:34 #kisslinux <muevoid> Example not E
2020-10-31T00:02:47 #kisslinux <dilyn> somebody had glfw packaged did they not?
2020-10-31T00:02:48 #kisslinux <dilyn> brb
2020-10-31T00:02:56 #kisslinux <muevoid> You could steal it from my repo
2020-10-31T00:02:59 #kisslinux <muevoid> and vinox is in kiss-games
2020-10-31T00:03:03 #kisslinux <muevoid> and kk
2020-10-31T00:03:11 #kisslinux <muevoid> in fact both are in kiss-games
2020-10-31T00:03:15 #kisslinux <muevoid> just not BunnymarkExample
2020-10-31T00:04:33 #kisslinux <muevoid> I'm not sure if glfw in kiss-games has wayland let me go check
2020-10-31T00:05:03 #kisslinux <muevoid> Nevermind it isn't I thought it was my bad
2020-10-31T00:05:16 #kisslinux <muevoid> No worries if you don't feel like pulling both repos down!
2020-10-31T00:05:35 #kisslinux <midfavila> sh4rm4^bnc you use palemoon, yeah? do you have it packaged or just use the release tarball?
2020-10-31T00:06:08 #kisslinux <muevoid> He uses sabotage linux so no not packaged for kiss at least
2020-10-31T00:06:14 #kisslinux <midfavila> Darn.
2020-10-31T00:06:14 #kisslinux <muevoid> At least afaik
2020-10-31T00:06:26 #kisslinux <muevoid> But it should be easy to do
2020-10-31T00:06:30 #kisslinux <muevoid> iirc I got it to built once
2020-10-31T00:06:32 #kisslinux <midfavila> I really don't want to have to package the UXP dependencies and a browser myself, haha
2020-10-31T00:06:52 #kisslinux <midfavila> but also iceweasel is tempting me.
2020-10-31T00:07:30 #kisslinux <muevoid> I don't like palemoon but that's just cause the devs are eh
2020-10-31T00:07:42 #kisslinux <midfavila> honestly moonchild is fine
2020-10-31T00:07:51 #kisslinux <muevoid> *insert openbsd issue*
2020-10-31T00:07:53 #kisslinux <midfavila> it's tobin who needs to get knocked down a few dozen blocks
2020-10-31T00:08:00 #kisslinux <muevoid> yeah
2020-10-31T00:08:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> I know someone like Tobin and uggggggh
2020-10-31T00:08:20 #kisslinux <muevoid> https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip
2020-10-31T00:08:24 #kisslinux <muevoid> my bad
2020-10-31T00:08:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> never have I meant a person more punchable
2020-10-31T00:08:27 #kisslinux <muevoid> https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86#issue-294280747
2020-10-31T00:08:34 #kisslinux <midfavila> met*
2020-10-31T00:08:35 #kisslinux <micr0> muevoid midfavila dilyn I really like git-bug
2020-10-31T00:08:41 #kisslinux <midfavila> git-bug?
2020-10-31T00:08:44 #kisslinux <micr0> its a distributed bugtracker
2020-10-31T00:08:53 #kisslinux <muevoid> Hmmm
2020-10-31T00:08:54 #kisslinux <micr0> in whatever git repo you have
2020-10-31T00:08:55 #kisslinux <midfavila> huh
2020-10-31T00:08:58 #kisslinux <muevoid> That looks really nice actually
2020-10-31T00:08:58 #kisslinux <midfavila> that's pretty neat
2020-10-31T00:09:02 #kisslinux <micr0> https://github.com/MichaelMure/git-bug
2020-10-31T00:09:02 #kisslinux <midfavila> could be useful in community
2020-10-31T00:09:10 #kisslinux <muevoid> and Go!!!! lmao
2020-10-31T00:09:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> especially if the new C package manager is coming out soon
2020-10-31T00:10:04 #kisslinux <muevoid> Omg this looks so cool
2020-10-31T00:10:09 #kisslinux <muevoid> thank you so much this is what I needed
2020-10-31T00:10:10 #kisslinux <muevoid> lmao
2020-10-31T00:10:17 #kisslinux <micr0> yeah i was just reading scrollback
2020-10-31T00:10:22 #kisslinux <micr0> after i fixed my sink
2020-10-31T00:10:22 #kisslinux <muevoid> I am finally not worrying about switching away from githubnow
2020-10-31T00:10:27 #kisslinux <muevoid> github now*
2020-10-31T00:10:29 #kisslinux <micr0> I can package it, gimme 5 minutes
2020-10-31T00:10:42 #kisslinux <muevoid> I probably will pkg it myself for mue-linux go pkgs are easy to pkg
2020-10-31T00:10:53 #kisslinux <micr0> oh right, you have your own *nix
2020-10-31T00:10:58 #kisslinux <micr0> I should add it to kiss-steal
2020-10-31T00:11:14 #kisslinux <midfavila> honestly I was tempted to start my own little hobby distro
2020-10-31T00:11:30 #kisslinux <midfavila> somewhere between the reasonably okay defaults of CRUX and the flexibility of KISS.
2020-10-31T00:11:37 #kisslinux <midfavila> I __really__ dig the package manager here.
2020-10-31T00:11:55 #kisslinux <muevoid> I want to make my own pkg manager that is compatible with kiss build files cause I love the package files
2020-10-31T00:12:06 #kisslinux <midfavila> but CRUX's advantage of not having to write X config files is also nice
2020-10-31T00:12:40 #kisslinux <muevoid> pkged thank you!
2020-10-31T00:16:12 #kisslinux <midfavila> I like how the Reddit question about trademarked software on r/kisslinux is the second result for Iceweasel-UXP, pfft
2020-10-31T00:18:54 #kisslinux <micr0> muevoid what do the two go options do? i see them in a ton of build scripts
2020-10-31T00:19:00 #kisslinux <micr0> the modcache and trimpath
2020-10-31T00:19:36 #kisslinux <muevoid> I believe modcache cleans the module cache after building
2020-10-31T00:19:36 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> <muevoid> But it should be easy to do
2020-10-31T00:19:43 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> at least when you copy my recipe
2020-10-31T00:20:40 #kisslinux <muevoid> trimpath im not sure but it is in the kiss style guide
2020-10-31T00:21:58 #kisslinux <micr0> muevoid okay I added mue linux to kiss-steal xD
2020-10-31T00:22:11 #kisslinux <muevoid> kk coolio
2020-10-31T00:22:22 #kisslinux <muevoid> thanks!
2020-10-31T00:22:34 #kisslinux <micr0> and i wonder if GO111MODULE=on is needed
2020-10-31T00:22:49 #kisslinux <micr0> i dont know go that well, other than people complaining about channels and its non-packaging system
2020-10-31T00:25:30 #kisslinux <dilyn> git bug is v cute
2020-10-31T00:26:42 #kisslinux <micr0> muevoid are you packaging hydroxide right now?
2020-10-31T00:26:49 #kisslinux <micr0> i'll wait and steal that too xD
2020-10-31T00:27:15 #kisslinux <muevoid> yes working on it
2020-10-31T00:28:18 #kisslinux <muevoid> just talking to someone quick then will finish
2020-10-31T00:29:49 #kisslinux <dilyn> muevoid: "ld cannot find -lglfw"
2020-10-31T00:29:50 #kisslinux <dilyn> :'(
2020-10-31T00:29:53 #kisslinux <dilyn> do not want
2020-10-31T00:30:03 #kisslinux <muevoid> No worries
2020-10-31T00:30:11 #kisslinux <midfavila> hate to jump in with an unrelated question, but have any of you guys got LILO to play nice with KISS?
2020-10-31T00:30:24 #kisslinux <dilyn> unsure why considering glfw is installed
2020-10-31T00:30:33 #kisslinux <dilyn> why wouldn't lilo work?
2020-10-31T00:30:35 #kisslinux <muevoid> Whered you get the build from?
2020-10-31T00:30:49 #kisslinux <dilyn> i made it. lol
2020-10-31T00:30:55 #kisslinux <muevoid> Ah
2020-10-31T00:31:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> Dunno why it wouldn't work, but every time I build it, it always breaks. To be clear, the package builds and installs fine
2020-10-31T00:31:01 #kisslinux <muevoid> Mind if you upload it
2020-10-31T00:31:04 #kisslinux <dilyn> http://ix.io/2Cxt
2020-10-31T00:31:07 #kisslinux <muevoid> Not blaming you just want to compare it to mine
2020-10-31T00:31:22 #kisslinux <midfavila> but when booting, LILO just repeats the error code 39
2020-10-31T00:31:26 #kisslinux <midfavila> which isn't spectacularly helpful
2020-10-31T00:31:26 #kisslinux <dilyn> http://ix.io/2Cxu
2020-10-31T00:31:39 #kisslinux <muevoid> this is mine https://termbin.com/qh6u
2020-10-31T00:32:06 #kisslinux <muevoid> I haven't had any issues with clang linker so I don't think it's that
2020-10-31T00:32:08 #kisslinux <dilyn> i'm on kiss-kde not wayland rn
2020-10-31T00:32:17 #kisslinux <muevoid> You can just remove wayland then
2020-10-31T00:32:17 #kisslinux <dilyn> did you want me to test on wyverkiss?
2020-10-31T00:32:24 #kisslinux <muevoid> Doesn't matter either way to me
2020-10-31T00:32:48 #kisslinux <dilyn> hmhmhm
2020-10-31T00:33:04 #kisslinux <dilyn> lmfao if you have glfw installed kdevelop will start building against it
2020-10-31T00:33:09 #kisslinux <muevoid> Really?
2020-10-31T00:33:10 #kisslinux <muevoid> tf
2020-10-31T00:33:11 #kisslinux <dilyn> so if you uninstall it the build just breaks
2020-10-31T00:33:17 #kisslinux <muevoid> Sorry :(
2020-10-31T00:33:19 #kisslinux <dilyn> it was at 1300/1509 rip me
2020-10-31T00:33:23 #kisslinux <dilyn> eh it's fine
2020-10-31T00:33:25 #kisslinux <muevoid> micr0 hydroxide works now
2020-10-31T00:33:39 #kisslinux <dilyn> building with shared libs succeeded ofc
2020-10-31T00:33:55 #kisslinux <micr0> i'm a little worried using a third party hydroxide auth command and just giving it my protonmail password lol
2020-10-31T00:33:57 #kisslinux <dilyn> okay so i do ./bunnymark and it opens a pure white text box?
2020-10-31T00:34:11 #kisslinux <dilyn> if that's the point, success! ll
2020-10-31T00:34:12 #kisslinux <dilyn> lol*
2020-10-31T00:34:24 #kisslinux <muevoid> Fair enough I just trust it cause I trust the person who made it they work on a lot of oss software
2020-10-31T00:36:48 #kisslinux <dilyn> error 39 doesn't look like a lilo error ocde? midfavila:
2020-10-31T00:36:52 #kisslinux <micr0> yeah though i wonder if I can request protonmail do a security audit of it. they might have the bandwidth.
2020-10-31T00:36:59 #kisslinux <midfavila> Yeah, hence why it's not very useful to me...
2020-10-31T00:37:04 #kisslinux <dilyn> lmaoooo
2020-10-31T00:37:08 #kisslinux <midfavila> the weird thing is that using the CRUX build of LILO works just fine
2020-10-31T00:37:43 #kisslinux <dilyn> hmhmhm
2020-10-31T00:38:01 #kisslinux <muevoid> disclaimer I am not great at programming but at first look it doesn't seem to be malicious
2020-10-31T00:38:14 #kisslinux <midfavila> I know the usual response is "Just use GRUB", but I don't need all the extra stuff GRUB has
2020-10-31T00:38:19 #kisslinux <dilyn> fuck grub
2020-10-31T00:38:21 #kisslinux <dilyn> can you use efi?
2020-10-31T00:38:23 #kisslinux <muevoid> Obvi doesn't speak to how secure it is in general
2020-10-31T00:38:29 #kisslinux <muevoid> yeah efistub all the way
2020-10-31T00:38:31 #kisslinux <midfavila> I mean, __technically__ yes
2020-10-31T00:38:34 #kisslinux <midfavila> but I don't like it
2020-10-31T00:38:40 #kisslinux <dilyn> why no?
2020-10-31T00:38:43 #kisslinux <dilyn> genuine question
2020-10-31T00:38:49 #kisslinux <midfavila> uno reverse card
2020-10-31T00:38:52 #kisslinux <midfavila> why would I?
2020-10-31T00:38:52 #kisslinux <dilyn> i've loved the idea of efi since inception. fucka bios
2020-10-31T00:39:01 #kisslinux <midfavila> the idea of EFI is really great
2020-10-31T00:39:08 #kisslinux <midfavila> but nobody actually uses it for what it was intended
2020-10-31T00:39:13 #kisslinux <dilyn> i agree that implementations are garbage
2020-10-31T00:39:24 #kisslinux <midfavila> all I want my BIOS to do is handle super low level settings and load my bootloader
2020-10-31T00:39:25 #kisslinux <dilyn> Apple has a mostly decent efi implementation and it's the one thing i appreciate about this mbp
2020-10-31T00:39:26 #kisslinux <micr0> muevoid wow yeah did some digging, i feel better now
2020-10-31T00:39:28 #kisslinux <micr0> thanks for sharing it!
2020-10-31T00:39:32 #kisslinux <midfavila> I don't need to run ELFs in my BIOS
2020-10-31T00:39:51 #kisslinux <midfavila> as cool as the fact that you can play DOOM on EFI is
2020-10-31T00:40:07 #kisslinux <dilyn> lmao
2020-10-31T00:40:11 #kisslinux <dilyn> i mean that's super true
2020-10-31T00:40:20 #kisslinux <micr0> i should make a busybox service for hydroxide...
2020-10-31T00:40:31 #kisslinux <midfavila> I guess if I were to answer your question legitimately it's because I find BIOS is more "KISS" than UEFI
2020-10-31T00:40:48 #kisslinux <dilyn> that might be true depending on your efi implementation
2020-10-31T00:40:54 #kisslinux <dilyn> bios is in general... convoluted and messy
2020-10-31T00:40:59 #kisslinux <midfavila> my board right now is a Gigabyte model
2020-10-31T00:41:02 #kisslinux <midfavila> can't recall the exact one
2020-10-31T00:41:04 #kisslinux <dilyn> albeit you would never interact with it
2020-10-31T00:41:31 #kisslinux <dilyn> gigabyte has decent uefi most times! iirc they never fucked up their initial launch like asus so if they screwed up super bad in the last five years they're pretty good
2020-10-31T00:41:54 #kisslinux <midfavila> Meh. I guess.
2020-10-31T00:41:57 #kisslinux <dilyn> lol
2020-10-31T00:42:04 #kisslinux <midfavila> Fucking around with partitions just for EFI is annoying though.
2020-10-31T00:42:14 #kisslinux <dilyn> have you seen my storage wiki article? :P
2020-10-31T00:42:26 #kisslinux <midfavila> nop
2020-10-31T00:42:27 #kisslinux <dilyn> if you have bios booting as an option there's no good reason to use efi instead
2020-10-31T00:42:38 #kisslinux <dilyn> but strict uefi is always better than hybrid
2020-10-31T00:42:53 #kisslinux <muevoid> micr0 if you don't want to make a run service I will make one
2020-10-31T00:43:01 #kisslinux <dilyn> my main suggestion if you had eufi was to just use efistub in the kernel to skip the whole bootloader thing anyways
2020-10-31T00:43:15 #kisslinux <E5ten> that's what I do
2020-10-31T00:43:45 #kisslinux <dilyn> efistub is the easiest setup i've ever had! fuck grub
2020-10-31T00:44:22 #kisslinux <dilyn> midfavila:, if you want to read a *little bit* (the whole article is overkill) https://github.com/dilyn-corner/wiki/blob/storage/boot/storage.txt
2020-10-31T00:44:39 #kisslinux <midfavila> Thanks, I'll peek at it in a bit
2020-10-31T00:44:54 #kisslinux <dilyn> imo it's better than the arch wiki :X
2020-10-31T00:44:57 #kisslinux <midfavila> I'm trying to get an icon theme set up by hand (I've never actually touched gtkrc files myself before :v)
2020-10-31T00:44:57 #kisslinux <dilyn> #sacrilege
2020-10-31T00:45:21 #kisslinux <micr0> muevoid that would be great, im running out of steam
2020-10-31T00:46:24 #kisslinux <micr0> dilyn efistub had one gotcha for me - my laptop (and apparently a lot of other ones) do NOT pass in args when booting efistub. So i had to hardcode the root=(blahblah)/ var in the default kernel commandline
2020-10-31T00:46:56 #kisslinux <dilyn> yeah that's what i mean by bad implementations
2020-10-31T00:47:00 #kisslinux <dilyn> how old is your board?
2020-10-31T00:47:53 #kisslinux <muevoid> What would you think best smtp or imap?
2020-10-31T00:48:23 #kisslinux <muevoid> smtp I think but do most email clients support that?
2020-10-31T00:48:24 #kisslinux <muevoid> idk
2020-10-31T00:49:11 #kisslinux <muevoid> I think smtp is smarter choice
2020-10-31T00:49:17 #kisslinux <muevoid> Most support it I think
2020-10-31T00:49:23 #kisslinux <muevoid> or I could include two
2020-10-31T00:49:27 #kisslinux <dilyn> i feel like smtp is supported by basically everything that does email?
2020-10-31T00:49:35 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah I just searched it
2020-10-31T00:49:40 #kisslinux <dilyn> imap is just more... more
2020-10-31T00:49:40 #kisslinux <muevoid> smtp is more secure too
2020-10-31T00:50:03 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's 2 for 2 then
2020-10-31T00:55:18 #kisslinux <micr0> muevoid supposedly you can build protonmail bridge without the qt gui
2020-10-31T00:55:42 #kisslinux <micr0> see https://iptq.io/setup/command-line-email-with-aerc/
2020-10-31T00:56:10 #kisslinux <micr0> i think smtp is what i see the most support for
2020-10-31T00:57:35 #kisslinux <dilyn> i've magically gotten so many more kde apps to work this time around than the first time
2020-10-31T00:57:44 #kisslinux <dilyn> this next push is gonna be mad prolific jesus
2020-10-31T00:59:57 #kisslinux <muevoid> Hmmm
2020-10-31T00:59:59 #kisslinux <muevoid> interesting
2020-10-31T01:00:21 #kisslinux <dilyn> did you see my last comment about krita???
2020-10-31T01:00:25 #kisslinux <dilyn> we have krita, calligra...
2020-10-31T01:00:31 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's all going so well!
2020-10-31T01:00:38 #kisslinux <muevoid> nice dilyn!
2020-10-31T01:00:55 #kisslinux <dilyn> AND *most* of the music players can play music now!
2020-10-31T01:01:02 #kisslinux <dilyn> and we incidentally got vlc...
2020-10-31T01:02:55 #kisslinux <micr0> omg there are like 4 gpgme's packaged for kiss
2020-10-31T01:03:19 #kisslinux <muevoid> Need to package libsecret quick for official proton-bridge
2020-10-31T01:04:57 #kisslinux <micr0> muevoid you can steal my libsecret package, but i am currently figuring out how to just have it use pass
2020-10-31T01:05:07 #kisslinux <micr0> so that way you dont even need qt for protonmail-bridge
2020-10-31T01:06:35 #kisslinux <muevoid> Have a link to your repo?
2020-10-31T01:07:07 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah pass is unforunate I wouldn't bind except bash :(
2020-10-31T01:07:22 #kisslinux <muevoid> I use pash
2020-10-31T01:09:12 #kisslinux <micr0> muevoid https://github.com/jedahan/kiss-repo
2020-10-31T01:09:18 #kisslinux <muevoid> thank you!
2020-10-31T01:09:43 #kisslinux <muevoid> Awww no license :(
2020-10-31T01:09:53 #kisslinux <muevoid> dilyn btw you don't have a license on your personal repo either :P
2020-10-31T01:10:37 #kisslinux <muevoid> fyi micr0 your libsecret had tons of deps it didn't need
2020-10-31T01:12:57 #kisslinux <dilyn> i don't feel a need to license my repo
2020-10-31T01:13:05 #kisslinux <dilyn> i don't think I have any original content on it
2020-10-31T01:13:23 #kisslinux <muevoid> CC0 or mit then? It would make me more comfortable using it but I understand if not
2020-10-31T01:14:08 #kisslinux <dilyn> i feel like i can't license plain english
2020-10-31T01:14:19 #kisslinux <muevoid> Isn't all source code english :P
2020-10-31T01:14:19 #kisslinux <dilyn> MIT i guess if that makes you feel more comfortable
2020-10-31T01:14:42 #kisslinux <muevoid> I mean I trust your not gonna sue but with no license it is technically copyrighted like fully
2020-10-31T01:15:24 #kisslinux <dilyn> XD
2020-10-31T01:15:27 #kisslinux <dilyn> fair enough
2020-10-31T01:15:27 #kisslinux <micr0> muevoid cooool yeah i hacked the port
2020-10-31T01:15:35 #kisslinux <dilyn> *you* have my permission :P
2020-10-31T01:15:44 #kisslinux <micr0> anyway, i dont need it anymore, i pushed an update to ProtonMail-Bridge which just builds the commandline
2020-10-31T01:15:47 #kisslinux <muevoid> Lmao thanks :P
2020-10-31T01:16:06 #kisslinux <muevoid> Have that anywhere
2020-10-31T01:16:07 #kisslinux <muevoid> in your repo
2020-10-31T01:16:08 #kisslinux <muevoid> ?
2020-10-31T01:16:33 #kisslinux <micr0> yep
2020-10-31T01:16:44 #kisslinux <muevoid> yoink XD
2020-10-31T01:16:52 #kisslinux <micr0> just pushed, but I am having trouble running it complains about pass
2020-10-31T01:16:54 #kisslinux <muevoid> Do you plan on ever putting a license on your repo?
2020-10-31T01:17:05 #kisslinux <micr0> i wonder if i need to use kiss alternatives to set gpg to point towards gpg2
2020-10-31T01:17:17 #kisslinux <muevoid> I'm not sure I use gpg2 by default
2020-10-31T01:18:25 #kisslinux <muevoid> Maybe?
2020-10-31T01:18:28 #kisslinux <muevoid> I'm trying rn
2020-10-31T01:18:41 #kisslinux <muevoid> Even though I think I might patch protonmail-bridge to use pash at somepoint
2020-10-31T01:18:57 #kisslinux <muevoid> Im putting bash in my private repo rn since mue-linux no bash but I would prefer to avoid it completely
2020-10-31T01:20:08 #kisslinux <muevoid> I still get an error is not able to detect a supported password manager is that the same for you micr0
2020-10-31T01:22:22 #kisslinux <micr0> yep
2020-10-31T01:22:33 #kisslinux <micr0> im digging through the source now to see why that might happen
2020-10-31T01:23:24 #kisslinux <muevoid> as well
2020-10-31T01:24:22 #kisslinux <muevoid> here is where it happens https://github.com/ProtonMail/proton-bridge/blob/99721b6577fe9079ac7547f11fc77e5090cdd31b/internal/frontend/cli/utils.go#L99-L104
2020-10-31T01:25:42 #kisslinux <midfavila> mfw I have to build rust specifically to build librsvg
2020-10-31T01:25:45 #kisslinux <midfavila> fucking shoot me
2020-10-31T01:25:57 #kisslinux <muevoid> heres where it is actually called https://github.com/ProtonMail/proton-bridge/blob/bfdfc81d65dacde57538def61af70195ca397b02/internal/frontend/cli/frontend.go#L237-L241
2020-10-31T01:26:17 #kisslinux <dilyn> there you go muevoid i've licensed all of my public facing repos i care about :P
2020-10-31T01:26:24 #kisslinux <muevoid> Thank you :P
2020-10-31T01:26:25 #kisslinux <dilyn> eck it feels pretentious
2020-10-31T01:26:43 #kisslinux <dilyn> anything to soothe your soul ;)
2020-10-31T01:26:47 #kisslinux <muevoid> Lmao
2020-10-31T01:28:13 #kisslinux <micr0> muevoid yeah i dug a bit deeper and see that there are potential debug logs, im gonna try turning them on since i think the issue is https://github.com/ProtonMail/proton-bridge/blob/7baa4dc117c739ab9223e3d5f142aac0d0a575ec/pkg/keychain/keychain_linux.go#L26-L43 or in pass
2020-10-31T01:28:33 #kisslinux <muevoid> -l debug
2020-10-31T01:29:06 #kisslinux <muevoid> You seem correct there it is
2020-10-31T01:29:19 #kisslinux <micr0> ahh cool gpg: micr0: skipped: No public key
2020-10-31T01:30:31 #kisslinux <muevoid> Got further now
2020-10-31T01:30:58 #kisslinux <dilyn> what I ~need~ is rnp to be a drop-in gpg replacement as far as git is conerned :'(
2020-10-31T01:30:59 #kisslinux <micr0> cool, same
2020-10-31T01:32:47 #kisslinux <muevoid> gpg decrytpion failed no secret key even though i did gpg --full-generate-key ... hmmm
2020-10-31T01:33:25 #kisslinux <muevoid> Got it to work
2020-10-31T01:33:31 #kisslinux <micr0> same
2020-10-31T01:33:37 #kisslinux <micr0> now to test aerc
2020-10-31T01:33:52 #kisslinux <muevoid> Is that a client?
2020-10-31T01:34:22 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yep
2020-10-31T01:34:25 #kisslinux <muevoid> looks cool
2020-10-31T01:35:27 #kisslinux <muevoid> You need a paid plan :(
2020-10-31T01:35:29 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yikes
2020-10-31T01:35:34 #kisslinux <muevoid> Hyrdroxide it is
2020-10-31T01:35:47 #kisslinux <himmalerin> for aerc?
2020-10-31T01:35:50 #kisslinux <micr0> need a paid plan for aerc?
2020-10-31T01:35:53 #kisslinux <muevoid> No protonmail-pridge
2020-10-31T01:35:58 #kisslinux <micr0> oh really? weird
2020-10-31T01:36:57 #kisslinux <micr0> how to add a new cert to trusted certs in kiss?
2020-10-31T01:40:29 #kisslinux <muevoid> I got aerc working with hydroxide it is nice
2020-10-31T01:41:07 #kisslinux <micr0> hmm i get errors, are you using aerc 0.4.0 and hydroxide 0.2.15?
2020-10-31T01:41:32 #kisslinux <muevoid> Aerc I am using from community and hydroxide 0.2.15
2020-10-31T01:41:40 #kisslinux <muevoid> How did you configure it?
2020-10-31T01:43:53 #kisslinux <micr0> username:password@localhost:1025, no security
2020-10-31T01:44:19 #kisslinux <muevoid> my bad
2020-10-31T01:44:22 #kisslinux <muevoid> didn't mean to leave
2020-10-31T01:44:31 #kisslinux <muevoid> ill send an example config for an account
2020-10-31T01:46:03 #kisslinux <muevoid> https://termbin.com/2edv
2020-10-31T01:46:12 #kisslinux <muevoid> this is accounts.conf in .config/aerc/accounts.conf
2020-10-31T01:47:08 #kisslinux <muevoid> then you need to do hydroxide auth <username> and store bridge password somewhere
2020-10-31T01:47:17 #kisslinux <muevoid> then run hydroxide imap and hydroxide smtp
2020-10-31T01:47:29 #kisslinux <muevoid> You can set those up as service files most likely which is what I will do
2020-10-31T01:47:30 #kisslinux <micr0> i only ran hydroxide smtp
2020-10-31T01:47:37 #kisslinux <muevoid> imap is for incoming mail
2020-10-31T01:47:39 #kisslinux <muevoid> just learned that
2020-10-31T01:47:49 #kisslinux <muevoid> then smtp for outgoing
2020-10-31T01:48:53 #kisslinux <muevoid> I wonder if there is a way to use w3m or lynx with aerc to format emails
2020-10-31T01:49:41 #kisslinux <muevoid> It supposedly has html support built in but it isn't rendered right for me
2020-10-31T01:50:22 #kisslinux <dilyn-kde> konversation works like a charm lads
2020-10-31T01:50:51 #kisslinux <micr0> k, ill try running both then and see
2020-10-31T01:52:56 #kisslinux <muevoid> :pipe lynx -stdin works
2020-10-31T01:54:06 #kisslinux <micr0> ahh, running both imap and smtp did it
2020-10-31T01:55:55 #kisslinux <micr0> nice
2020-10-31T01:56:05 #kisslinux <micr0> im sure that can be set as default
2020-10-31T01:56:27 #kisslinux <micr0> hell i think links2 -g supports images
2020-10-31T01:56:32 #kisslinux <micr0> and foot supports libsixel
2020-10-31T01:56:44 #kisslinux <micr0> I wonder if theres a nice libsixel web browser
2020-10-31T01:56:59 #kisslinux <midfavila> >nice
2020-10-31T01:57:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> >web browser
2020-10-31T01:57:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> choose
2020-10-31T01:57:37 #kisslinux <micr0> i mean lynx is fine for what I am doing
2020-10-31T01:57:50 #kisslinux <midfavila> if you want graphics and stuff in the terminal you should look at browsh
2020-10-31T01:58:06 #kisslinux <midfavila> uses firefox as a backend and converts the graphical output to text
2020-10-31T01:58:07 #kisslinux <micr0> oof no pls
2020-10-31T01:58:14 #kisslinux <midfavila> kek
2020-10-31T01:58:20 #kisslinux <midfavila> I don't blame you for having that reaction
2020-10-31T01:58:23 #kisslinux <midfavila> browsh is a hot mess
2020-10-31T01:58:30 #kisslinux <micr0> i think its awesome that it exists
2020-10-31T01:58:33 #kisslinux <micr0> but do not want to use it
2020-10-31T01:58:51 #kisslinux <midfavila> I still wish that Kazehakase was in development
2020-10-31T01:58:54 #kisslinux <micr0> I think a links2 fork with libsixel support is about the right speed
2020-10-31T01:59:04 #kisslinux <midfavila> old GTK2 browser that could swap different engines on the fly
2020-10-31T01:59:19 #kisslinux <midfavila> and also it has a cool name
2020-10-31T02:01:01 #kisslinux <dilyn> if you're going to use firefox as a backend why not just use firefox...
2020-10-31T02:01:09 #kisslinux <midfavila> because TTY
2020-10-31T02:01:40 #kisslinux <dilyn> firefox
2020-10-31T02:01:42 #kisslinux <dilyn> tty
2020-10-31T02:01:45 #kisslinux <dilyn> ???
2020-10-31T02:01:48 #kisslinux <midfavila> exactly.
2020-10-31T02:01:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> lmfao
2020-10-31T02:02:10 #kisslinux <dilyn> since firefox requires so many xlibs, you have no good reason to be using a tty???
2020-10-31T02:02:14 #kisslinux <midfavila> it uses some sort of black magic to convert the graphical output of firefox to text that can be rendered in a tty
2020-10-31T02:02:19 #kisslinux <midfavila> and the idea is that it's used on remote systems
2020-10-31T02:02:22 #kisslinux <midfavila> so like
2020-10-31T02:02:29 #kisslinux <dilyn> unless you like, for some reason, can't *run* an xserver. but then you just don't deserve graphics at that point
2020-10-31T02:02:32 #kisslinux <midfavila> system a is low-resource, low-bandwidth
2020-10-31T02:02:38 #kisslinux <dilyn> smh
2020-10-31T02:02:39 #kisslinux <midfavila> system b is running browsh
2020-10-31T02:02:45 #kisslinux <midfavila> so you ssh into system b to use browsh
2020-10-31T02:02:49 #kisslinux <midfavila> it's really niche and stupid imho
2020-10-31T02:02:58 #kisslinux <dilyn> this use-case boggles my mind
2020-10-31T02:03:02 #kisslinux <midfavila> mhm
2020-10-31T02:03:21 #kisslinux <dilyn> like if you have to run headless
2020-10-31T02:03:29 #kisslinux <dilyn> there's a good reason xD
2020-10-31T02:03:33 #kisslinux <midfavila> but hey, if you ever wanted to stream video over ssh into a tty...
2020-10-31T02:03:41 #kisslinux <dilyn> who asked for this feature!
2020-10-31T02:03:44 #kisslinux <dilyn> "feature"
2020-10-31T02:03:49 #kisslinux <midfavila> reddit soydevs probably
2020-10-31T02:03:53 #kisslinux <dilyn> lmfao
2020-10-31T02:04:06 #kisslinux <dilyn> reddit is like a small purgatory
2020-10-31T02:04:10 #kisslinux <midfavila> "small"
2020-10-31T02:04:23 #kisslinux <midfavila> shit, that reminds me, I need to get my USENET feed set back up
2020-10-31T02:04:30 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's been like the seventh most popular website since 2010
2020-10-31T02:04:32 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's small
2020-10-31T02:04:40 #kisslinux <midfavila> smol
2020-10-31T02:04:50 #kisslinux <dilyn> i mean by zipf's law it's tiny
2020-10-31T02:05:31 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's basically ~1/2^7 times as popular as youtube
2020-10-31T02:06:08 #kisslinux <midfavila> youtube pisses me off for so many reasons
2020-10-31T02:06:12 #kisslinux <dilyn> xD
2020-10-31T02:06:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> same with fuckin'
2020-10-31T02:06:20 #kisslinux <midfavila> netflix
2020-10-31T02:06:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> and all these other stupid streaming services
2020-10-31T02:06:40 #kisslinux <midfavila> imagine how much electricity and bandwidth is wasted on them
2020-10-31T02:07:00 #kisslinux <dilyn> the fact that streaming took off the way it did just reinforces to me that millenials never understood why tivo was so revolutionary
2020-10-31T02:07:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> but all the middle-aged housewives have to be able to bingewatch game of thrones in 4k
2020-10-31T02:07:13 #kisslinux <dilyn> lmfao
2020-10-31T02:07:21 #kisslinux <midfavila> otherwise they might actually fucking do something useful
2020-10-31T02:07:38 #kisslinux <dilyn> nobody wants to pay $50/mo for internet but they'll subscribe to six streaming services for $8.99/mo
2020-10-31T02:07:52 #kisslinux <midfavila> dude where can I get internet for 50$
2020-10-31T02:07:57 #kisslinux <midfavila> my bill is 107.95
2020-10-31T02:08:06 #kisslinux <midfavila> and I can't even use my own modem
2020-10-31T02:08:11 #kisslinux <dilyn> and then just rewatch the office...
2020-10-31T02:08:20 #kisslinux <dilyn> i get 10MB/s down for $35
2020-10-31T02:08:30 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's ~not good~ but it's the most cost effective
2020-10-31T02:08:31 #kisslinux <midfavila> ah, that'd explain it
2020-10-31T02:08:36 #kisslinux <midfavila> honestly I'd rather that
2020-10-31T02:08:41 #kisslinux <midfavila> i'm on gigabit up/down
2020-10-31T02:08:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> yeah that's just excessive for my needs lmao
2020-10-31T02:08:53 #kisslinux <midfavila> which is the cheapest plan available for me
2020-10-31T02:08:58 #kisslinux <midfavila> and it's completely excessive for like
2020-10-31T02:09:02 #kisslinux <midfavila> 99% of people tbh
2020-10-31T02:09:06 #kisslinux <dilyn> the next best plan is $90/mo and it just doubles the download speed. #waste
2020-10-31T02:09:12 #kisslinux <midfavila> for real.
2020-10-31T02:09:13 #kisslinux <dilyn> where do you live?!
2020-10-31T02:09:23 #kisslinux <midfavila> Canada.
2020-10-31T02:09:27 #kisslinux <dilyn> aaaahhh
2020-10-31T02:09:27 #kisslinux <midfavila> Telecomms here is fucked.
2020-10-31T02:09:44 #kisslinux <dilyn> gigabit isn't even an option in most of the states, and not for nearly that price lmao
2020-10-31T02:09:58 #kisslinux <midfavila> yeah, I've heard
2020-10-31T02:10:04 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's no bueno :'( qq
2020-10-31T02:10:06 #kisslinux <midfavila> we can trade if you want
2020-10-31T02:10:11 #kisslinux <dilyn> fuck naw
2020-10-31T02:10:12 #kisslinux <midfavila> you can have the ridiculous bills
2020-10-31T02:10:14 #kisslinux <midfavila> :P
2020-10-31T02:10:16 #kisslinux <dilyn> :P
2020-10-31T02:10:32 #kisslinux <midfavila> honestly though the thing that irks me the most is that I can't use my own modem
2020-10-31T02:10:48 #kisslinux <dilyn> I would however take your rates at the speed i want. I'd like to pay $35/mo for 1gib/3
2020-10-31T02:10:55 #kisslinux <midfavila> I was looking forward to having a completely libre home network
2020-10-31T02:11:07 #kisslinux <dilyn> yeah i imagine the infrascture up there isn't much different?
2020-10-31T02:11:15 #kisslinux <midfavila> you'd think so
2020-10-31T02:11:19 #kisslinux <midfavila> everything is fibre optic
2020-10-31T02:11:26 #kisslinux <midfavila> which is why it's so goddamn expensive
2020-10-31T02:11:35 #kisslinux <midfavila> and only modern equipment works
2020-10-31T02:11:36 #kisslinux <dilyn> i can carry my own modem but I don't think any modem you can buy for personal use at a reasonable price supports gib...
2020-10-31T02:11:49 #kisslinux <midfavila> which is why the ISPs can jack up prices, because they're "renting you equipment"
2020-10-31T02:11:55 #kisslinux <dilyn> #scam
2020-10-31T02:12:02 #kisslinux <midfavila> ikr
2020-10-31T02:12:04 #kisslinux <dilyn> I was looking to rent a place that had FIOS. that was an intense setup
2020-10-31T02:12:11 #kisslinux <midfavila> I'd use DSL if I could
2020-10-31T02:12:11 #kisslinux <dilyn> I opened the closet and was taken aback xD
2020-10-31T02:12:19 #kisslinux <midfavila> but there are no fucking copper lines here
2020-10-31T02:12:36 #kisslinux <dilyn> the people in charge of this stuff are so bad at it ffs
2020-10-31T02:12:44 #kisslinux <dilyn> and the lobbyists just take advantage of that fact
2020-10-31T02:12:48 #kisslinux <midfavila> you don't understand
2020-10-31T02:12:55 #kisslinux <midfavila> they're highly trained and qualified technicians
2020-10-31T02:13:02 #kisslinux <midfavila> they know better than you do
2020-10-31T02:13:04 #kisslinux <midfavila> :p
2020-10-31T02:13:08 #kisslinux <dilyn> lmfaoooooo
2020-10-31T02:13:20 #kisslinux <dilyn> they're either reading a script and in as much pain as you
2020-10-31T02:13:28 #kisslinux <dilyn> or their craigslist hires who don't care
2020-10-31T02:13:35 #kisslinux <dilyn> there is no inbetween when it comes to services
2020-10-31T02:13:42 #kisslinux <midfavila> I had to fight with the tech to unlock the maintenance panel on my modem
2020-10-31T02:14:01 #kisslinux <midfavila> 'cuz I normally assign IP addresses and whatnot statically
2020-10-31T02:14:12 #kisslinux <midfavila> but of course they lock everything behind "security"
2020-10-31T02:14:26 #kisslinux <midfavila> I could have probably cracked it given enough time, but that's just stupid I'd even have to resort to that.
2020-10-31T02:15:10 #kisslinux <dilyn> smh
2020-10-31T02:15:24 #kisslinux <dilyn> i hate it
2020-10-31T02:15:30 #kisslinux <midfavila> Yeah...
2020-10-31T02:15:30 #kisslinux <dilyn> everything is wrong with the internet
2020-10-31T02:15:35 #kisslinux <dilyn> the whole stack has to go
2020-10-31T02:15:47 #kisslinux <midfavila> I wish I was around during the 70s and 80s when ARPANET and BBSes were still a thing
2020-10-31T02:15:57 #kisslinux <dilyn> bring me back to 1999
2020-10-31T02:16:04 #kisslinux <dilyn> gimme that usenet
2020-10-31T02:16:06 #kisslinux <midfavila> but no, I get stuck in the mid-late '00s
2020-10-31T02:16:13 #kisslinux <dilyn> right
2020-10-31T02:16:21 #kisslinux <dilyn> what i wanted: geocities
2020-10-31T02:16:27 #kisslinux <dilyn> what I got: garbagecities
2020-10-31T02:16:27 #kisslinux <midfavila> what you got: twitter and reddit
2020-10-31T02:16:35 #kisslinux <dilyn> f
2020-10-31T02:16:43 #kisslinux <midfavila> but yeah, computers just seem like they used to be a lot cooler
2020-10-31T02:16:50 #kisslinux <midfavila> especially those old S-100 machines, mmph~
2020-10-31T02:16:56 #kisslinux <midfavila> I could stare at those things for hours
2020-10-31T02:17:08 #kisslinux <dilyn> computers were boring from sandy bridge to ryzen zen 2 xD
2020-10-31T02:17:22 #kisslinux <dilyn> and then before that, core 2's...
2020-10-31T02:17:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> well, sure, zen 3 is cool and all
2020-10-31T02:17:27 #kisslinux <midfavila> but like...
2020-10-31T02:17:31 #kisslinux <midfavila> not in the same way
2020-10-31T02:17:49 #kisslinux <midfavila> part of the appeal old machines have is that they were way more in tune with hobbyists, I guess
2020-10-31T02:18:20 #kisslinux <midfavila> anyone with a few manuals and some time could sit down and make their own cards to do shit with their PCs, and that just happened regularly
2020-10-31T02:18:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> or hell
2020-10-31T02:18:44 #kisslinux <midfavila> people would just fuck around with stuff for fun. but now it mostly seems to be "oh I just want it to werk"
2020-10-31T02:18:53 #kisslinux <midfavila> idk I'm just ranting at this point
2020-10-31T02:31:56 #kisslinux <dilyn> yeah i mean you saw a huge drop in requirements to be a hardware enthusiast the release of the q6600
2020-10-31T02:32:10 #kisslinux <dilyn> and then it *really* fell off with the release of the first i7
2020-10-31T02:32:29 #kisslinux <midfavila> I think my first machine was a P4
2020-10-31T02:32:33 #kisslinux <dilyn> now everybody just sort of expects the process to be easy. no more northbridge voltage fiddling or volt mods
2020-10-31T02:32:37 #kisslinux <dilyn> same
2020-10-31T02:32:50 #kisslinux <midfavila> I was like... two or three when it was given to me, haha
2020-10-31T02:33:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> some neighbors got a new PC and they didn't want to throw it out, so that was my birthday gift
2020-10-31T02:33:09 #kisslinux <midfavila> probably not the best parenting tactic, but hey
2020-10-31T02:34:41 #kisslinux <midfavila> man, if only I'd found out about Linux 'n stuff back then
2020-10-31T02:35:07 #kisslinux <dilyn> you would've had a painful time xD
2020-10-31T02:35:20 #kisslinux <midfavila> hardship builds character = w=
2020-10-31T02:35:26 #kisslinux <dilyn> fax
2020-10-31T02:35:34 #kisslinux <dilyn> 2005 linux was a wild beast
2020-10-31T02:36:06 #kisslinux <midfavila> there were some interesting distros around back then
2020-10-31T02:36:12 #kisslinux <midfavila> source mage for example
2020-10-31T02:36:53 #kisslinux <dilyn> shit was wild
2020-10-31T02:37:12 #kisslinux <dilyn> back when digg was a good source of information and ubuntu was the new kid on the block
2020-10-31T02:37:20 #kisslinux <midfavila> oh god, digg
2020-10-31T02:37:24 #kisslinux <midfavila> you're giving me flashback
2020-10-31T02:37:27 #kisslinux <midfavila> flashbacks*
2020-10-31T02:37:40 #kisslinux <midfavila> proto-reddit
2020-10-31T02:37:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> what hackernews wishes it could be
2020-10-31T02:38:01 #kisslinux <midfavila> god don't even fucking mention that name around me
2020-10-31T02:38:15 #kisslinux <midfavila> I __hate__ HN with a passion rivalled only by the might of Zeus
2020-10-31T02:38:36 #kisslinux <midfavila> everyone's so pretentious and just like... Silicon Valley-y
2020-10-31T02:40:25 #kisslinux <dilyn> lmfaooooo
2020-10-31T02:40:32 #kisslinux <dilyn> this is why i barely use the internet nowadays
2020-10-31T02:40:38 #kisslinux <dilyn> from 2006-2013 I was all over it
2020-10-31T02:40:45 #kisslinux <dilyn> now i'm just so ambivalent towards the whole thing
2020-10-31T02:40:56 #kisslinux <midfavila> honestly I wish I could be ambivalent
2020-10-31T02:40:58 #kisslinux <dilyn> i'm content with my podcasts tyvm
2020-10-31T02:41:08 #kisslinux <midfavila> but as cringe as it is I grew up on the net almost entirely
2020-10-31T02:41:22 #kisslinux <midfavila> so it's kind of gut-wrenching, seeing the corporate takeover of it
2020-10-31T02:41:28 #kisslinux <dilyn> mhm
2020-10-31T02:41:38 #kisslinux <dilyn> and we all saw it coming
2020-10-31T02:41:47 #kisslinux <dilyn> the 'normal users' had no idea it was happening :(
2020-10-31T02:41:47 #kisslinux <midfavila> oh, it was coming from a mile away
2020-10-31T02:42:09 #kisslinux <midfavila> jfc I was eleven at the time and even then I was like "welp, fuck. this is gone forever"
2020-10-31T02:43:10 #kisslinux <midfavila> I'm at the point where I'm starting to get uncomfortable with Linux for the same reason
2020-10-31T02:43:17 #kisslinux <midfavila> I don't like how cozy M$ is getting...
2020-10-31T02:43:35 #kisslinux <midfavila> nor the response that they're receiving
2020-10-31T02:43:41 #kisslinux <dilyn> yeah
2020-10-31T02:43:45 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's all very... spooky
2020-10-31T02:43:51 #kisslinux <midfavila> do people really forget the past thirty, fourty years so easily?
2020-10-31T02:43:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> i'm not content
2020-10-31T02:43:57 #kisslinux <dilyn> oh definitely
2020-10-31T02:44:02 #kisslinux <midfavila> hell, M$ has been fucking hobbyists literally since 1975
2020-10-31T02:44:09 #kisslinux <midfavila> it goes all the way back
2020-10-31T02:44:23 #kisslinux <midfavila> but they release the NT file explorer and their calculator and suddenly all is forgiven
2020-10-31T02:44:35 #kisslinux <midfavila> it's EEE all over again
2020-10-31T02:44:38 #kisslinux <dilyn> don't forget about edge!
2020-10-31T02:44:43 #kisslinux <midfavila> oh boi
2020-10-31T02:44:44 #kisslinux <dilyn> the new best browser
2020-10-31T02:44:59 #kisslinux <midfavila> remember how popular IE For Unix was?
2020-10-31T02:45:09 #kisslinux <dilyn> lmfao
2020-10-31T02:45:09 #kisslinux <midfavila> I don't
2020-10-31T02:45:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> ...although I will say, the combination of retro IE with MOTIF is aesthetic as fuck.
2020-10-31T02:45:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> the only thing i appreciate about today is the look of software
2020-10-31T02:45:58 #kisslinux <midfavila> god, I hate that
2020-10-31T02:46:01 #kisslinux <dilyn> lol
2020-10-31T02:46:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> everything is flat and monochrome
2020-10-31T02:46:16 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's bae
2020-10-31T02:46:21 #kisslinux <midfavila> it's horrendous
2020-10-31T02:46:24 #kisslinux <muevoid> I have to go through and delete 1000 emails
2020-10-31T02:46:28 #kisslinux <midfavila> I want my bezels and pixel art icons
2020-10-31T02:46:30 #kisslinux <midfavila> bevels?
2020-10-31T02:46:33 #kisslinux <midfavila> whatever
2020-10-31T02:46:34 #kisslinux <muevoid> PIXEL ARTTTTT
2020-10-31T02:46:37 #kisslinux <muevoid> Sorry
2020-10-31T02:46:40 #kisslinux <muevoid> I really like pixel art lol
2020-10-31T02:46:50 #kisslinux <dilyn> xD
2020-10-31T02:46:52 #kisslinux <midfavila> you want to see something really awesome?
2020-10-31T02:46:57 #kisslinux <midfavila> go check out NsCDE on Github
2020-10-31T02:47:05 #kisslinux <midfavila> complete recreation of CDE using FVWM
2020-10-31T02:47:18 #kisslinux <dilyn> god it's so gross lmfao
2020-10-31T02:47:26 #kisslinux <midfavila> s/gross/great/
2020-10-31T02:47:35 #kisslinux <dilyn> i stand my comment :P
2020-10-31T02:47:55 #kisslinux <midfavila> okay boomer
2020-10-31T02:48:02 #kisslinux <muevoid> s/s/gross/greate/s/great/gross/g midfavila's comment
2020-10-31T02:48:06 #kisslinux <dilyn> i'm basically a boomer at this point
2020-10-31T02:48:16 #kisslinux <midfavila> god, I remember trying to get the actual CDE running on my rig
2020-10-31T02:48:19 #kisslinux <midfavila> it's such a clusterfuck
2020-10-31T02:48:24 #kisslinux <muevoid> I don't even think that is right lol
2020-10-31T02:48:25 #kisslinux <muevoid> oh well
2020-10-31T02:48:31 #kisslinux <muevoid> I don
2020-10-31T02:48:36 #kisslinux <muevoid> I don't like it either :P
2020-10-31T02:48:42 #kisslinux <midfavila> wuh
2020-10-31T02:48:47 #kisslinux <dilyn> i'm an old man trapped in a 27 year old's body
2020-10-31T02:48:51 #kisslinux <midfavila> you know what
2020-10-31T02:49:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> you boomers can go back to your sways and haikus
2020-10-31T02:49:10 #kisslinux <muevoid> hikari*
2020-10-31T02:49:12 #kisslinux <muevoid> :P
2020-10-31T02:49:16 #kisslinux <midfavila> whatever >:C
2020-10-31T02:49:19 #kisslinux <muevoid> Lmao
2020-10-31T02:49:33 #kisslinux <dilyn> muh kde
2020-10-31T02:49:35 #kisslinux <muevoid> Cagebreak is really cool
2020-10-31T02:49:55 #kisslinux <midfavila> oh, just another tiler
2020-10-31T02:49:55 #kisslinux <muevoid> as is ratpoison for Xorg
2020-10-31T02:49:56 #kisslinux <midfavila> lame
2020-10-31T02:50:05 #kisslinux <muevoid> It's like tmux tho :P
2020-10-31T02:50:16 #kisslinux <muevoid> But there is this one really cool tiling thing I am tempted to try thats different
2020-10-31T02:50:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> oh boy I can use tmux with my Qt apps!11!!!111111!
2020-10-31T02:50:27 #kisslinux <dilyn> lmfao
2020-10-31T02:50:48 #kisslinux <muevoid> https://gitlab.com/cardboardwm/cardboard
2020-10-31T02:50:56 #kisslinux <muevoid> I mean I don't do much in a gui so :P
2020-10-31T02:51:12 #kisslinux <muevoid> But no layer-shell support is a no go for me :(
2020-10-31T02:51:17 #kisslinux <muevoid> I can't live without wayherb now lol
2020-10-31T02:51:26 #kisslinux <muevoid> for cagebreak
2020-10-31T02:51:30 #kisslinux <muevoid> I think carboard it works
2020-10-31T02:51:30 #kisslinux <midfavila> I just like gtk themes and the like
2020-10-31T02:51:39 #kisslinux <midfavila> even if they are a waste of screen space
2020-10-31T02:52:53 #kisslinux <muevoid> Windows are a waste of screen space just use one terminals
2020-10-31T02:56:13 #kisslinux <midfavila> jesus christ Rust takes a billion years to compile
2020-10-31T03:29:54 #kisslinux <muevoid> That's why I refuse to use rust :P
2020-10-31T03:30:07 #kisslinux <muevoid> I mean that and just not a huge fan of the language but point still stands
2020-10-31T03:30:11 #kisslinux <micr0> well that was a rabbit-hole
2020-10-31T03:30:21 #kisslinux <muevoid> Hmmm mirc0?
2020-10-31T03:30:22 #kisslinux <midfavila> I'm removing it as soon as I've built this library
2020-10-31T03:30:29 #kisslinux <muevoid> What lib?
2020-10-31T03:30:30 #kisslinux <micr0> i tried patching go-libvterm to use a fork of libvterm that added libsixel support
2020-10-31T03:30:46 #kisslinux <micr0> but never wrote anything in go before and wasn't even sure if my modules were building
2020-10-31T03:31:00 #kisslinux <muevoid> what are you trying to build with go-libvterm?
2020-10-31T03:31:51 #kisslinux <muevoid> Ah gotcha
2020-10-31T03:31:53 #kisslinux <muevoid> Just found it
2020-10-31T03:31:59 #kisslinux <muevoid> It's for aerc
2020-10-31T03:32:46 #kisslinux <muevoid> what is sixel again? images
2020-10-31T03:32:47 #kisslinux <muevoid> ?
2020-10-31T03:35:21 #kisslinux <micr0> yep
2020-10-31T03:35:35 #kisslinux <micr0> im done for the night though that was a 90 minute diversion
2020-10-31T03:35:44 #kisslinux <micr0> glad to get aerc and protonmail working though, thanks for the help
2020-10-31T03:35:52 #kisslinux <muevoid> Np thank you for showing me aerc!
2020-10-31T03:40:50 #kisslinux <muevoid> thats really cool lol I just downloaded libsixel
2020-10-31T03:51:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> o/
2020-10-31T03:51:28 #kisslinux <muevoid> o/
2020-10-31T03:51:30 #kisslinux <muevoid> how are you?
2020-10-31T03:51:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Good, you?
2020-10-31T03:51:41 #kisslinux <muevoid> Im pretty good
2020-10-31T03:51:48 #kisslinux <muevoid> Trying to figure out what I want in my rice :(
2020-10-31T03:51:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thanks for adopting webkit2gtk
2020-10-31T03:52:13 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah I forgot to do the pr I can do that quickly
2020-10-31T03:52:44 #kisslinux <muevoid> Do I need to do that or how does it work?
2020-10-31T03:52:57 #kisslinux <muevoid> Never adopted packages before
2020-10-31T03:53:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Just append a space character to the end of the first line in the  version file
2020-10-31T03:54:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> If a space already exists (no update since last adoption), just drop the space
2020-10-31T03:54:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Maintainers are tracked via git history of the version file.
2020-10-31T03:54:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> So all you need to do is commit a change to it
2020-10-31T03:54:33 #kisslinux <muevoid> kk going through and doing so now
2020-10-31T03:56:38 #kisslinux <muevoid> Again I'll be taking everything webkit wise except gstreamer since I have no need for those
2020-10-31T03:57:08 #kisslinux <muevoid> Has anyone clamed gnupg2 yet?
2020-10-31T03:57:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> No
2020-10-31T03:57:25 #kisslinux <muevoid> I'll take that too then
2020-10-31T03:57:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nice
2020-10-31T03:58:04 #kisslinux <muevoid> Is it ok to include a new pkg in this pr? It's for webkit2gtk its an option rn in the repo but the pkg isnt in the repo at all
2020-10-31T03:58:22 #kisslinux <muevoid> (libtasn1)
2020-10-31T03:59:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Sure
2020-10-31T04:07:12 #kisslinux <muevoid> What should I do as the commit message and pr name?
2020-10-31T04:07:28 #kisslinux <muevoid> is adopt packages ok?
2020-10-31T04:08:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> pkg1,pkg2,pkg3: adopt packages. Related to #12121121
2020-10-31T04:09:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Something like this
2020-10-31T04:09:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Feel free to do a commit for each one or a single commit for them all
2020-10-31T04:09:34 #kisslinux <muevoid> Kk its ok if its long cause it is quite a few pkgs
2020-10-31T04:09:49 #kisslinux <muevoid> I would rather do one commit but if you prefer I can do seperate
2020-10-31T04:12:19 #kisslinux <muevoid> Do you need manifest for all of the pkgs?
2020-10-31T04:12:21 #kisslinux <muevoid> in the template
2020-10-31T04:13:51 #kisslinux <muevoid> I just created it if you need anything changed just lmk
2020-10-31T04:22:28 #kisslinux <muevoid> I'm trying to think of some way to have my pc always show the time without a bar
2020-10-31T04:29:02 #kisslinux <muevoid> brb I'm going to try out hikari.
2020-10-31T04:29:06 #kisslinux <muevoid> dilynm ;)
2020-10-31T04:35:14 #kisslinux <dilyn> ;)
2020-10-31T04:35:18 #kisslinux <muevoid> dilyn I am confused
2020-10-31T04:35:19 #kisslinux <muevoid> lol
2020-10-31T04:35:22 #kisslinux <dilyn> ??
2020-10-31T04:35:36 #kisslinux <muevoid> When moving windows all windows light up lol
2020-10-31T04:35:44 #kisslinux <dilyn> yeah that's a feature of hikari
2020-10-31T04:35:49 #kisslinux <muevoid> What is it?
2020-10-31T04:35:59 #kisslinux <dilyn> you have the ability to group... sheets i believe they call them
2020-10-31T04:36:01 #kisslinux <dilyn> into groups
2020-10-31T04:36:14 #kisslinux <muevoid> hmmm
2020-10-31T04:36:23 #kisslinux <dilyn> you can anchor them, move them all to different places, manipulate all of them...
2020-10-31T04:36:33 #kisslinux <dilyn> you have very fine-grained control over windows basically
2020-10-31T04:36:41 #kisslinux <dilyn> sheets might be what they call workspaces actually
2020-10-31T04:36:54 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah it is
2020-10-31T04:36:55 #kisslinux <dilyn> the documentation is super thorough i'd suggest reading it if you want to invest in it
2020-10-31T04:37:11 #kisslinux <muevoid> Just want to mess for a few not sure if I will stay. Considering it thoug
2020-10-31T04:37:38 #kisslinux <dilyn> if you just want the analogue to a simple floating window manager it works just fine
2020-10-31T04:37:56 #kisslinux <dilyn> but there's a ton of stuff you can do to make your workflow more unique/efficient
2020-10-31T04:38:21 #kisslinux <dilyn> if you hold down meta you can see all the windows in a group (that's the highlighting you see)
2020-10-31T04:38:34 #kisslinux <dilyn> and then there are some key combos that will group windows together
2020-10-31T04:38:47 #kisslinux <muevoid> It's very interesting
2020-10-31T04:39:09 #kisslinux <dilyn> mmhmm
2020-10-31T04:39:15 #kisslinux <dilyn> i should spend more time with it :X
2020-10-31T04:39:32 #kisslinux <dilyn> but i really just wanted floating windows instead of tiling lmao biggest reason i chose it
2020-10-31T04:39:33 #kisslinux <muevoid> I'm so invested in my sway set up but idk lol
2020-10-31T04:40:15 #kisslinux <dilyn> yeah i really just want a sowm on wayland tbh
2020-10-31T04:40:28 #kisslinux <dilyn> just something to put windows on a screen and let me move them around
2020-10-31T04:40:30 #kisslinux <muevoid> Sounds like a fun project to do
2020-10-31T04:40:37 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's on my mind xD
2020-10-31T04:40:50 #kisslinux <muevoid> bet ill do it :P
2020-10-31T04:40:55 #kisslinux <dilyn> xD
2020-10-31T04:40:58 #kisslinux <dilyn> well if you do lmk
2020-10-31T04:41:02 #kisslinux <dilyn> i gotta hit the sack now tho
2020-10-31T04:41:04 #kisslinux <muevoid> I want to learn more wayland dev anyways so I probably will
2020-10-31T04:41:05 #kisslinux <dilyn> gngngng o/
2020-10-31T04:41:07 #kisslinux <muevoid> gn o/
2020-10-31T04:41:30 #kisslinux <muevoid> brb Im crawling back to sway XD
2020-10-31T04:42:17 #kisslinux <muevoid> ~ sweet ~
2020-10-31T04:44:32 #kisslinux <muevoid> dylanaraps do you use sway tiling or floating?
2020-10-31T04:58:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> All windows float by default and my fullscreen toggle actually toggles tiling for the focused window
2020-10-31T04:58:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> So first fullscreen toggle tiles the first window ("fullscreen")
2020-10-31T04:58:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> If I want to have two windows side by side, I make another window "fullscreen"
2020-10-31T04:58:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Make sense?
2020-10-31T05:03:47 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah I actually did something similar for a while
2020-10-31T05:03:58 #kisslinux <muevoid> Sorry for long response time I was laughing on floor lol
2020-10-31T05:04:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ;)
2020-10-31T05:13:59 #kisslinux <muevoid> fixed dylanaraps
2020-10-31T05:18:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> merged
2020-10-31T05:18:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thanks
2020-10-31T05:18:53 #kisslinux <muevoid> np note icu is one version behind but webkit2gtk doesn't build with it right now just haven't had time to investigate more but I will be soon.
2020-10-31T05:21:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> All good
2020-10-31T05:22:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Updated the list in the issue
2020-10-31T05:23:25 #kisslinux <muevoid> Kk
2020-10-31T05:23:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 13 packages left in that issue.
2020-10-31T05:23:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Just emacs stuff, webkit2gtk browsers and a few other packages
2020-10-31T05:24:18 #kisslinux <muevoid> nice
2020-10-31T05:24:34 #kisslinux <muevoid> I no longer use emacs or I would take that up
2020-10-31T05:24:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> There's still 20 or so in this issue: https://github.com/kisslinux/community/issues/1460
2020-10-31T05:24:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yeah
2020-10-31T05:24:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Don't worry about it
2020-10-31T05:25:05 #kisslinux <muevoid> I can take aerc
2020-10-31T05:25:07 #kisslinux <muevoid> from the other one
2020-10-31T05:25:12 #kisslinux <muevoid> It's my new mail client now
2020-10-31T05:25:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> If you want to do that, be my guest :P
2020-10-31T05:25:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Just don't take on too many packages
2020-10-31T05:25:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Becomes a burden/time sink
2020-10-31T05:25:59 #kisslinux <muevoid> It's no worries I'm only taking ones I do on mue-linux anyways and when it comes to non gui stuff it's super easy to just copy them over
2020-10-31T05:29:05 #kisslinux <muevoid> I'm terrible with git is there a better way to resync my repo with yours without just deleting and reforking
2020-10-31T05:29:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> rebase?
2020-10-31T05:29:43 #kisslinux <muevoid> Gotcha
2020-10-31T05:29:49 #kisslinux <muevoid> Like I said not great with git :<
2020-10-31T05:29:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Though there have been times where it's been easier to rm -rf dir && git clone url dir
2020-10-31T05:29:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> lol
2020-10-31T05:32:41 #kisslinux <muevoid> btw I think groff should be checked off trbednarzyk said they adopted it it looks like
2020-10-31T05:35:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> nice
2020-10-31T05:35:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thanks
2020-10-31T05:35:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yeah. I did an oops and removed two packages they adopted.
2020-10-31T05:35:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Issue wasn't updated
2020-10-31T05:35:43 #kisslinux <muevoid> Gotcha lol
2020-10-31T05:35:56 #kisslinux <muevoid> I also opened up a pr for aerc
2020-10-31T05:37:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thanks
2020-10-31T05:38:27 #kisslinux <muevoid> Np
2020-10-31T05:38:55 #kisslinux <muevoid> I just wanted to help with something related to kiss cause I feel like I owe it to do something :P.
2020-10-31T05:39:25 #kisslinux <muevoid> And again isn't too much of a problem since I've been doing these seperate since I started mue-linux anyways
2020-10-31T05:40:31 #kisslinux <muevoid> Hey dylanaraps do you have any solutions to having the time shown somewhere on screen at all times other then just using a bar?
2020-10-31T05:42:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> watch -n1 date
2020-10-31T05:43:02 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Or -n60
2020-10-31T05:43:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That's an option
2020-10-31T05:43:13 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah that's true
2020-10-31T05:43:22 #kisslinux <muevoid> I could use sway rules to make it always floating and sticky
2020-10-31T05:43:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yeah
2020-10-31T05:43:47 #kisslinux <muevoid> I wonder if you can use sway rules to also make it go to a certain size
2020-10-31T05:43:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You could bind a key to open a notification/bar/terminal/whatever with the date for <n> seconds
2020-10-31T05:44:06 #kisslinux <muevoid> You can do that with foot actually
2020-10-31T05:44:18 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah that's true
2020-10-31T05:44:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> foot is great
2020-10-31T05:44:27 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah I really like foot
2020-10-31T05:44:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The one thing I'll miss when I go back to xorg
2020-10-31T05:44:44 #kisslinux <muevoid> You plan on going back to xorg?
2020-10-31T05:44:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Oh yeah
2020-10-31T05:45:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Am having many issues
2020-10-31T05:45:41 #kisslinux <muevoid> Hmm like what?
2020-10-31T05:45:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Firefox context menus are unresponsive unless I focus another desktop and focus back
2020-10-31T05:46:04 #kisslinux <muevoid> weird
2020-10-31T05:46:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Even then there's a chance this won't work
2020-10-31T05:46:08 #kisslinux <muevoid> Can't help don't use firefox
2020-10-31T05:46:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Fair
2020-10-31T05:46:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I have whole system freezes
2020-10-31T05:47:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This happens randomly
2020-10-31T05:47:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Not frequent but happens enough to annoy me
2020-10-31T05:47:17 #kisslinux <muevoid> That's really weird
2020-10-31T05:47:22 #kisslinux <muevoid> Have you checked bugzilla for firefox
2020-10-31T05:47:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yes
2020-10-31T05:47:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> System freezes happen even without Firefox
2020-10-31T05:47:49 #kisslinux <muevoid> I find that really weird
2020-10-31T05:47:58 #kisslinux <muevoid> Are you on latest master for both sway and wlroots?
2020-10-31T05:48:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yes
2020-10-31T05:48:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Happens with releases too
2020-10-31T05:48:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Also, not happy with how wallpapers work (via daemon)
2020-10-31T05:48:20 #kisslinux <muevoid> That's really weird
2020-10-31T05:48:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> There's flicker when swapping wallpapers no matter what I do
2020-10-31T05:48:33 #kisslinux <muevoid> That's fair enough
2020-10-31T05:48:43 #kisslinux <muevoid> Is that a issue?
2020-10-31T05:48:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Hell, even setting a solid hex color requires a daemon
2020-10-31T05:48:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Xorg never flickered for me when changing wallpapers
2020-10-31T05:48:55 #kisslinux <muevoid> I didn't know people switched wallpapers often
2020-10-31T05:49:01 #kisslinux <muevoid> Gotcha
2020-10-31T05:49:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I patch sway to set the wallpaper color without daemon
2020-10-31T05:49:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> lol
2020-10-31T05:49:18 #kisslinux <muevoid> Lol
2020-10-31T05:49:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This sets the windows 95 color:
2020-10-31T05:49:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> sed -i 's/0.25f, 0.25f, 0.25f/0.0f, 0.501961f, 0.498039f/g' sway/desktop/render.c
2020-10-31T05:50:49 #kisslinux <muevoid> Hmmm I might use that
2020-10-31T05:51:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Beats having a daemon + ipc + whatever to set a color as the background
2020-10-31T05:51:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Just can't change it at runtime
2020-10-31T05:51:52 #kisslinux <muevoid> I might see if they are interested in having it be a config option
2020-10-31T05:51:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yeah
2020-10-31T05:51:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I doubt it
2020-10-31T05:52:14 #kisslinux <muevoid> If I could get them to add it in i3 they would add it to sway
2020-10-31T05:52:17 #kisslinux <muevoid> (most likely)
2020-10-31T05:52:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> There's a protocol (layer-shell iirc) for this sort of thing and they're using it already
2020-10-31T05:52:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That's why the daemon is needed
2020-10-31T05:52:34 #kisslinux <muevoid> yeah i know
2020-10-31T05:54:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Also... when you change wallpaper with sway it reconfigures all input devices causing a small system freeze: https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/5606
2020-10-31T05:54:48 #kisslinux <muevoid> I mean to be fair most of these sound like an issue with sway
2020-10-31T05:54:56 #kisslinux <muevoid> Other then firefox that idk
2020-10-31T05:55:03 #kisslinux <muevoid> Have you tried something like hikari?
2020-10-31T05:55:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I have not
2020-10-31T05:55:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'll be sure to
2020-10-31T05:55:15 #kisslinux <muevoid> I'm not a huge fan of floating but it actually seemed cool
2020-10-31T05:55:23 #kisslinux <muevoid> :w
2020-10-31T05:55:26 #kisslinux <muevoid> my bad
2020-10-31T05:58:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Issue for wallpaper flicker is here: https://github.com/swaywm/swaybg/issues/17
2020-10-31T05:58:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Which is a duplicate of: https://github.com/swaywm/swaybg/issues/8 and https://github.com/swaywm/swaybg/issues/3
2020-10-31T05:59:14 #kisslinux <muevoid> also see https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/3693#issue-410853649
2020-10-31T05:59:15 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> and https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/3693
2020-10-31T05:59:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> lol
2020-10-31T05:59:18 #kisslinux <muevoid> lol
2020-10-31T05:59:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > If we're feeling spicy we could wait for the new swaybg instance to come up before killing the old one. The z-ordering should place it on top
2020-10-31T05:59:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I tried this btw
2020-10-31T05:59:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Doesn't work
2020-10-31T05:59:42 #kisslinux <muevoid> I just saw that
2020-10-31T05:59:46 #kisslinux <muevoid> What happens?
2020-10-31T05:59:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> z-ordering is wrong
2020-10-31T06:00:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> So flicker still happens
2020-10-31T06:00:09 #kisslinux <muevoid> This sounds super scuffed but maybe try to wallpaper setters I use wbg
2020-10-31T06:00:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I tried it
2020-10-31T06:00:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Same deal
2020-10-31T06:00:21 #kisslinux <muevoid> Have you tried oguri?
2020-10-31T06:00:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's the whole daemon thing that causes it
2020-10-31T06:00:35 #kisslinux <muevoid> I used to use it and I liked it
2020-10-31T06:00:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> All setters will flicker
2020-10-31T06:00:44 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah
2020-10-31T06:01:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Dunno, seemed to me like getting wallpapers right would be a drop in the ocean of the million other things to do
2020-10-31T06:01:36 #kisslinux <muevoid> my bad didn't mean to leave
2020-10-31T06:01:44 #kisslinux <muevoid> But yeah fair enough
2020-10-31T06:01:58 #kisslinux <muevoid> I'm gonna try and figure it out now just because lol
2020-10-31T06:04:28 #kisslinux <muevoid> oguri might fix your issue
2020-10-31T06:04:37 #kisslinux <muevoid> it has an orgurictl command to control it while running
2020-10-31T06:05:21 #kisslinux <muevoid> Not sure how it works yet but appears to be able to control the image
2020-10-31T06:05:25 #kisslinux <muevoid> trying it out now
2020-10-31T06:09:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> muevoid: Will try it
2020-10-31T06:09:39 #kisslinux <muevoid> Trying to figure out how it works but it seems like it is implemented
2020-10-31T06:11:38 #kisslinux <muevoid> It seems to work for me
2020-10-31T06:13:06 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah works great for me
2020-10-31T06:13:14 #kisslinux <muevoid> I'm going to switch to oguri now lol
2020-10-31T06:16:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It forces you to pick an initial wallpaper via config file. The ctl utility forces you to pick an output name (can't use wildcards)
2020-10-31T06:16:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Grr
2020-10-31T06:16:21 #kisslinux <muevoid> An issue is open for wildcard
2020-10-31T06:16:29 #kisslinux <muevoid> Can't help with intial wallpaper :P
2020-10-31T06:16:59 #kisslinux <muevoid> My output name never changes so I don't mind and I don't ever use external displays
2020-10-31T06:20:15 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yeah
2020-10-31T06:37:40 #kisslinux <muevoid> I wouldn't recommend to use oguri for now
2020-10-31T06:37:51 #kisslinux <muevoid> (If you are switching wallpapers often)
2020-10-31T06:38:11 #kisslinux <muevoid> Minus the other issues I looked at the code and it doesn't get rid of old images when using ipc
2020-10-31T06:38:14 #kisslinux <muevoid> I am opening an issue now
2020-10-31T06:38:27 #kisslinux <muevoid> Wouldn't be an issue if it wasn't for the fact the memory usage goes up
2020-10-31T06:42:57 #kisslinux <muevoid> You can use wildcards though btw dylanaraps
2020-10-31T06:43:12 #kisslinux <muevoid> for output in config do output * then when using ogurictl do "*" for the name
2020-10-31T06:43:59 #kisslinux <muevoid> brb
2020-10-31T06:44:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Not working here
2020-10-31T06:44:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> What command are you using?
2020-10-31T06:44:41 #kisslinux <muevoid> I just hooked up another monitor to confirm wildcards work and they do
2020-10-31T06:44:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ogurictl <output_name> --image /path/to/img <number> ?
2020-10-31T06:44:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Dunno, it's confusing
2020-10-31T06:45:01 #kisslinux <muevoid> ogurictl output --image /path "*"
2020-10-31T06:45:10 #kisslinux <muevoid> output is the command name
2020-10-31T06:45:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Hey
2020-10-31T06:45:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That works
2020-10-31T06:45:16 #kisslinux <muevoid> It confused me too at first
2020-10-31T06:45:46 #kisslinux <muevoid> I just opened an issue about the image if he doesn't respond soon and fix I will just try to fix it myself
2020-10-31T06:45:53 #kisslinux <muevoid> The memory usage issue
2020-10-31T06:46:02 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It leaks memory though
2020-10-31T06:46:11 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah
2020-10-31T06:46:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Every time you change wallpapers usage goes up
2020-10-31T06:46:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> And stays up
2020-10-31T06:46:22 #kisslinux <muevoid> It's because he's not getting rid of the old images
2020-10-31T06:46:25 #kisslinux <muevoid> I just opened an issue
2020-10-31T06:46:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's already using 5% of my memory lol
2020-10-31T06:46:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It doesn't reuse any of it either
2020-10-31T06:46:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Swap between two images and memory still goes up
2020-10-31T06:47:01 #kisslinux <muevoid> I'm gonna hope they respond soon they seem active. But if they don't again I will try to fix cause I have some experience with wayland things
2020-10-31T06:47:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (and keep swapping)
2020-10-31T06:47:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I've never had to think twice about wallpapers with xorg
2020-10-31T06:47:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> They've always just worked
2020-10-31T06:47:39 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah fair
2020-10-31T06:47:55 #kisslinux <muevoid> In fairness as well wayland is a lot different on a level when it comes to how it works
2020-10-31T06:48:03 #kisslinux <muevoid> Like it just works different
2020-10-31T06:48:08 #kisslinux <muevoid> But I get your point
2020-10-31T06:48:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I compare the two because Wayland aims to make Xorg obsolete
2020-10-31T06:48:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Big shoes to fill
2020-10-31T06:48:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> We'll be more or less "forced" over at some stage after all
2020-10-31T06:49:11 #kisslinux <muevoid> I just can't personally bring my self to use xorg it is so bloated
2020-10-31T06:49:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Firefox will drop X11 support (already deemed legacy)
2020-10-31T06:49:24 #kisslinux <muevoid> (imo)
2020-10-31T06:50:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yeah, Xorg ain't perfect
2020-10-31T06:50:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It does work however
2020-10-31T06:51:15 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah I get using either
2020-10-31T06:51:24 #kisslinux <muevoid> I don't hate Xorg just personally can't bring myself to use it
2020-10-31T06:52:21 #kisslinux <muevoid> I think I fixed the memory usage issue
2020-10-31T06:52:24 #kisslinux <muevoid> Would you like to try it
2020-10-31T06:52:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Sure
2020-10-31T06:52:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Send patch
2020-10-31T06:52:35 #kisslinux <muevoid> its one line
2020-10-31T06:52:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Has no one using oguri noticed yet?
2020-10-31T06:52:42 #kisslinux <muevoid> Not sure
2020-10-31T06:52:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> lol
2020-10-31T06:53:03 #kisslinux <muevoid> I can still send patch if you want but again just one line if you would rather me just tell you where
2020-10-31T06:53:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Knowing me and how I cycle through wallpapers I'd fill my ram very quickly
2020-10-31T06:53:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'll figure it out ;)
2020-10-31T06:54:21 #kisslinux <muevoid> https://termbin.com/018k
2020-10-31T06:54:34 #kisslinux <muevoid> crap forgot to change the path
2020-10-31T06:55:44 #kisslinux <muevoid> No nvm
2020-10-31T06:55:50 #kisslinux <muevoid> Or maybe
2020-10-31T06:55:52 #kisslinux <muevoid> I can't tell lol
2020-10-31T06:56:01 #kisslinux <muevoid> It will go up while switching but drop back down
2020-10-31T06:56:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Still leaks
2020-10-31T06:56:21 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah
2020-10-31T06:56:24 #kisslinux <muevoid> Nvm
2020-10-31T06:56:28 #kisslinux <muevoid> hold on
2020-10-31T06:59:14 #kisslinux <muevoid> Im slow
2020-10-31T07:11:19 #kisslinux <konimex> say, does a PGP key require a passphrase?
2020-10-31T07:11:40 #kisslinux <konimex> or it's like ssh keys?
2020-10-31T07:14:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> My key has a password, yeah
2020-10-31T07:14:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Not sure if it's a requirement though
2020-10-31T07:15:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yeah. You can just press <enter> twice at the password prompts
2020-10-31T07:15:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Should display: > You don't want a passphrase - this is probably a *bad* idea!
2020-10-31T07:15:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > Do you really want to do this? (y/N) y
2020-10-31T07:16:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You can remove the password from a key via: gpg --edit-key <key> then passwd and <enter> twice
2020-10-31T07:16:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> then 'save' of course
2020-10-31T07:19:32 #kisslinux <konimex> alright, also, do you use passwords for ssh keys? or it's without a password?
2020-10-31T07:21:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Not that I can recall
2020-10-31T07:23:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You can do it though: https://docs.github.com/en/free-pro-team@latest/github/authenticating-to-github/working-with-ssh-key-passphrases
2020-10-31T07:23:07 #kisslinux <muevoid> Imma head to bed it is 2:30 am almost here seeya all o/
2020-10-31T07:23:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Night
2020-10-31T07:33:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> be on again later o/
2020-10-31T10:50:35 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> hi people, is there a simple way to drop libressl?
2020-10-31T10:50:51 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> i mean without need to fork a lot of packages
2020-10-31T13:37:29 #kisslinux <nerditup> Ahh the fun world of the GnuPG interface
2020-10-31T13:37:40 #kisslinux <nerditup> I should put on my resume GnuPG expert
2020-10-31T16:21:02 #kisslinux <allbombson> Same
2020-10-31T16:39:37 #kisslinux <kiedtl> do y'all think I should add a gemini mirror for the KISS blog/news? or maybe just a link to the HTTP versions?
2020-10-31T16:39:49 #kisslinux <kiedtl> KISS' blog is a massive pain to convert, lol
2020-10-31T16:40:56 #kisslinux <allbombson> Idk mam
2020-10-31T16:43:16 #kisslinux <midfavila> a gemini mirror would be cool
2020-10-31T16:44:13 #kisslinux <kiedtl> the base website is for the most part converted.
2020-10-31T16:44:21 #kisslinux <kiedtl> gemini://tilde.team/~kiedtl/k1ss/docs/
2020-10-31T16:44:29 #kisslinux <kiedtl> just the wiki, news, and blog remain.
2020-10-31T16:44:40 #kisslinux <allbombson> Yeah just http them
2020-10-31T16:49:42 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Yeah. I might do that for the wiki as well, because the wiki is constantly updated and I do not think it's feasable to maintain a gemini version.
2020-10-31T16:50:21 #kisslinux <allbombson> Yeah
2020-10-31T17:03:00 #kisslinux <soliwilos> mcpcpc[m]: I have edited the script in my comment, it shouldn't actually use a loop with tail like that. If one wants to limit the reads tail makes to the logfile, one can use the "-s" option.
2020-10-31T19:42:16 #kisslinux <nerditup> thoughts on new lines at the end of config files/scripts?
2020-10-31T19:42:55 #kisslinux <midfavila> I think it's for the best. Never had it do any harm, but excluding it can sometimes make using regular UNIX tools like sed a little odd
2020-10-31T20:02:11 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> soliwilos will take a look in a bit
2020-10-31T20:13:24 #kisslinux <soliwilos> mcpcpc[m]: I've made a script that uses a named pipe instead of a logfile as well. Let me know if you want to look at it as well, possibly as an additional option.
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