2020-01-21T00:00:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I am
2020-01-21T00:00:06 #kisslinux <adamanti`> mmk
2020-01-21T00:00:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Just working on a safeguard for this in the package manager
2020-01-21T00:07:50 #kisslinux <adamanti`> it appears i have perm issues on both machines?
2020-01-21T00:09:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I was wrong I believe
2020-01-21T00:09:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's late here :P
2020-01-21T00:09:57 #kisslinux <adamanti`> gotchya
2020-01-21T00:28:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> adamantium: Added code to prevent this from happening again.
2020-01-21T00:28:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thanks
2020-01-21T00:28:27 #kisslinux <adamanti`> happy to report issues
2020-01-21T00:28:43 #kisslinux <adamanti`> wish i knew the cause
2020-01-21T00:29:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> rsync was too greedy with permissions and would carry that sticky perm from your user directory to /
2020-01-21T00:29:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> How that permission got in your home directory, no idea.
2020-01-21T00:29:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> If it happens again though, it won't reach the system.
2020-01-21T00:30:19 #kisslinux <adamanti`> right
2020-01-21T00:30:21 #kisslinux <adamanti`> cool!
2020-01-21T00:30:40 #kisslinux <adamanti`> # but my  curl is broken on two systems.
2020-01-21T00:30:47 #kisslinux <adamanti`> This has me stressed out
2020-01-21T00:30:48 #kisslinux <adamanti`> atm
2020-01-21T00:30:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> heh
2020-01-21T00:30:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> We'll fix it
2020-01-21T00:31:14 #kisslinux <adamanti`> okie dokie
2020-01-21T00:35:25 #kisslinux <adamanti`> well we know it isn't ccache
2020-01-21T00:35:26 #kisslinux <adamanti`> lol
2020-01-21T00:36:06 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> btw adam, your systeme got a mention in #debianfork (devuan offtopic)
2020-01-21T00:36:16 #kisslinux <adamanti`> so funny
2020-01-21T00:36:24 #kisslinux <adamanti`> someone told me it was mentioned in ##hardware too
2020-01-21T00:36:45 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> btw, is it anything like systemd?
2020-01-21T00:36:54 #kisslinux <adamanti`> no its just an init script
2020-01-21T00:37:00 #kisslinux <adamanti`> that was just a jab at systemd
2020-01-21T00:37:34 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> ah, some may misunderstand it as a systemd rewrite in emacs lisp or something :D
2020-01-21T00:37:46 #kisslinux <adamanti`> all the better
2020-01-21T00:38:02 #kisslinux <adamanti`> it's hillarious because emacs is considered a bloated text editor compared to ed or vi
2020-01-21T00:38:13 #kisslinux <adamanti`> and it's a "lightweight" systemd replacement written in emacs lisp
2020-01-21T00:38:26 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> you don't want your software to be mistaken for a poetterware rewrite :3
2020-01-21T00:38:41 #kisslinux <adamanti`> oh no one would
2020-01-21T00:38:52 #kisslinux <adamanti`> it's clearly a joke
2020-01-21T00:39:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> icu is no where in the curl source...
2020-01-21T00:39:41 #kisslinux <adamanti`> :2020-01-21T00:39:47 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> "https://github.com/a-schaefers/systemE/  looks like we have another init system to package.  :)"
2020-01-21T00:40:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Lets see the exact error again
2020-01-21T00:40:14 #kisslinux <adamanti`> dylanaraps: right
2020-01-21T00:40:26 #kisslinux <adamanti`> I was googling the error earlier to no avail
2020-01-21T00:40:29 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> "emacs as pid 1, gg" "too small" "they could instead run qemu as pid1" "and windows inside it" :D
2020-01-21T00:41:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> bingo
2020-01-21T00:41:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Figured it out
2020-01-21T00:42:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> check your terminal
2020-01-21T00:43:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> pushed
2020-01-21T00:43:41 #kisslinux <adamanti`> sweet
2020-01-21T00:44:00 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> dylanaraps: man, looking at you solving all these problems makes it look so easy. you are starting to inspire me to move from this dead point :)
2020-01-21T00:44:35 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> wish i had your knowledge
2020-01-21T00:44:44 #kisslinux <adamanti`> TwistedFate: just start doing  stuff man
2020-01-21T00:44:56 #kisslinux <adamanti`> break system fix system
2020-01-21T00:45:02 #kisslinux <adamanti`> take things apart put back together
2020-01-21T00:45:02 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Curl was linking to libpsl which was linking to icu
2020-01-21T00:45:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It didn't like tha
2020-01-21T00:45:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> t
2020-01-21T00:45:21 #kisslinux <adamanti`> ok
2020-01-21T00:45:30 #kisslinux <adamanti`> i like your 'sh' trick in build file
2020-01-21T00:45:32 #kisslinux <adamanti`> btw
2020-01-21T00:45:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> yeah
2020-01-21T00:45:37 #kisslinux <adamanti`> will be using it
2020-01-21T00:45:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Really handy
2020-01-21T00:45:41 #kisslinux <adamanti`> I've been doing things the hard way
2020-01-21T00:45:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> you can also do KISS_DEBUG=1 to keep the dirs around after build
2020-01-21T00:46:09 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> one day i'll be able to understand what are you guys talking about!! :')
2020-01-21T00:46:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You could mess around with kiss in a chroot
2020-01-21T00:46:22 #kisslinux <adamanti`> TwistedFate: you can't see our screen so wouldn't be expected to
2020-01-21T00:46:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> just unpack the chroot and use the kiss-chroot script
2020-01-21T00:46:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Fully working kiss system inside yours
2020-01-21T00:46:49 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> hmmm
2020-01-21T00:46:55 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> that is tempting
2020-01-21T00:46:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Just rm the dir afterwards
2020-01-21T00:47:02 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> i must try that
2020-01-21T00:47:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://dl.getkiss.org/kiss-chroot.tar.xz
2020-01-21T00:47:33 #kisslinux <adamanti`> the most helpful things for me to understand that were 'aha' moments i think were 1. chroots. 2. PATH 3. environment variables
2020-01-21T00:47:44 #kisslinux <adamanti`> 4. pipes
2020-01-21T00:47:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> the script: https://dl.getkiss.org/kiss-chroot
2020-01-21T00:47:55 #kisslinux <adamanti`> as a newer linux user a few years ago
2020-01-21T00:48:02 #kisslinux <adamanti`> TwistedFate: you might google those topics
2020-01-21T00:48:03 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> man, PATH is confusing the heck out of me
2020-01-21T00:48:09 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> i had it break on me couple of times
2020-01-21T00:48:11 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> i was helpless
2020-01-21T00:48:18 #kisslinux <adamanti`> once you 'get it' you'll be like OOH this is fun
2020-01-21T00:48:22 #kisslinux <KayW> oh wait, you can do a kiss chroot? wack
2020-01-21T00:48:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yeah
2020-01-21T00:48:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Same tarball as install
2020-01-21T00:48:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Acts as both :P
2020-01-21T00:49:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> adamantium: I'll disconnect from your system now
2020-01-21T00:50:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> oops
2020-01-21T00:50:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nice
2020-01-21T00:50:38 #kisslinux <micro_O> o/
2020-01-21T00:50:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> hello
2020-01-21T00:51:07 #kisslinux <adamanti`> dylanaraps:  good times dude o/
2020-01-21T00:51:27 #kisslinux <adamanti`> dylanaraps: keep up the good work and thanks for willingness to look into things and fix for all of us
2020-01-21T00:52:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> np
2020-01-21T00:53:22 #kisslinux <KayW> man this is running my cpu
2020-01-21T00:54:48 #kisslinux <adamanti`> oh dylanaraps is there a trick to rid gettext as a dependency? I'm trying to build powertop
2020-01-21T00:55:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Deleting po/ helps for some packages.
2020-01-21T00:55:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/commit/2b2cce6b57a0419c727736cdfaeb7422ef285f82
2020-01-21T00:55:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> New handy util
2020-01-21T00:55:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> powertop has a po/
2020-01-21T00:56:12 #kisslinux <adamanti`> TwistedFate: ^ download that script and try it
2020-01-21T00:56:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That script needs kiss-chroot as well.
2020-01-21T00:56:35 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> adamanti`: powertop?
2020-01-21T00:56:43 #kisslinux <adamanti`> no no it's a kiss chroot maker
2020-01-21T00:56:50 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> oh
2020-01-21T00:56:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Also requires .cache/kiss to exist.
2020-01-21T00:57:01 #kisslinux <adamanti`> ah
2020-01-21T00:57:04 #kisslinux <adamanti`> nvm TwistedFate sorry
2020-01-21T00:57:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (Meant for a kiss system)
2020-01-21T00:57:15 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Just download the tarball and the kiss-chroot script
2020-01-21T00:57:30 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> roger roger
2020-01-21T00:58:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Note: You'll get a naming conflict between the unpacked tarball and the script. Rename the script to something else first.
2020-01-21T00:58:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Also, unpack the tarball as root
2020-01-21T00:58:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (or rename the unpacked tarball dir to something else)
2020-01-21T00:58:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Wow, it's 3AM
2020-01-21T00:58:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Night
2020-01-21T00:59:05 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> gn dylanaraps
2020-01-21T00:59:07 #kisslinux <adamanti`> night o/
2020-01-21T00:59:18 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> adamanti`: got any nice rice to show off? :D
2020-01-21T00:59:33 #kisslinux <adamanti`> yeah im sitting on a pretty badass one right now
2020-01-21T00:59:39 #kisslinux <adamanti`> i dont have a screenshot tool tho
2020-01-21T01:00:44 #kisslinux <adamanti`> it's dwm with st with the transparency patch in solarized light colors and unifont bmp font
2020-01-21T01:00:58 #kisslinux <adamanti`> and dwm gaps
2020-01-21T01:01:34 #kisslinux <adamanti`> and wallpaper is black/white with partial blurr and also partial sharp focus on a tree trunk
2020-01-21T01:01:40 #kisslinux <adamanti`> if that makes any sense at all
2020-01-21T01:02:47 #kisslinux <adamanti`> TwistedFate: did you see all of the screenshots at getkiss.org ?
2020-01-21T01:02:56 #kisslinux <adamanti`> TwistedFate: we have some talented ricers in here... lol
2020-01-21T01:03:37 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> i think i did
2020-01-21T01:03:42 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> btw what happened to kiss website?
2020-01-21T01:03:49 #kisslinux <adamanti`> ??
2020-01-21T01:03:50 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> it's.. completely white now
2020-01-21T01:04:09 #kisslinux <adamanti`> hah
2020-01-21T01:04:11 #kisslinux <adamanti`> you're right
2020-01-21T01:04:27 #kisslinux <adamanti`> i kind of like it this way !
2020-01-21T01:14:01 #kisslinux <konimex> looks like the stallman.org website
2020-01-21T01:14:09 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> http://i.4cdn.org/g/1579556479697.jpg lol
2020-01-21T03:58:15 #kisslinux <konimex> looks like building the monorepo directly from gcc fails after all
2020-01-21T03:58:24 #kisslinux <konimex> https://termbin.com/ns5z
2020-01-21T04:43:46 #kisslinux <lieuxnoir> o/
2020-01-21T04:44:23 #kisslinux <lieuxnoir> gotta love that KISS website redesign
2020-01-21T04:44:56 #kisslinux <lieuxnoir> i wish i also had the guts to use serif fonts
2020-01-21T04:55:12 #kisslinux <konimex> and looks like you need two passes of llvm and clang after all
2020-01-21T04:55:41 #kisslinux <konimex> s/you/I/
2020-01-21T04:56:52 #kisslinux <E5ten> you sure that error can't be worked around?
2020-01-21T04:58:57 #kisslinux <E5ten> wait I don't even see an error?
2020-01-21T04:59:01 #kisslinux <E5ten> just a ton of warnings?
2020-01-21T05:00:10 #kisslinux <E5ten> oh cmake errors from --rtlib
2020-01-21T05:04:40 #kisslinux <konimex> I don't know if it's true in cmake but iirc in some buildsystems if there's too many warnings (not sure the threshold) the build won't continue
2020-01-21T05:11:27 #kisslinux <E5ten> try not setting CLANG_DEFAULT_RTLIB, and then after the build you can put --rtlib=compiler-rt in your CFLAGS until your next build of LLVM whenever you want when you can enable the CLANG_DEFAULT_RTLIB thing and take it out of your CFLAGS
2020-01-21T06:12:22 #kisslinux <lieuxnoir> /quit
2020-01-21T07:53:07 #kisslinux <lieuxnoir> what can you say about incorporating mdevd to manage hotplug events in mdev?
2020-01-21T07:53:25 #kisslinux <lieuxnoir> https://skarnet.org/software/mdevd/
2020-01-21T08:05:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> lieuxnoir: I just need to add support for it in the init scripts.
2020-01-21T09:03:54 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps https://github.com/kisslinux/community/pull/243#issuecomment-576578141
2020-01-21T09:04:47 #kisslinux <adamantium> :D
2020-01-21T09:16:21 #kisslinux <merakor> There is gnugrep on the community repository and kiss uses busybox patch by default
2020-01-21T09:19:10 #kisslinux <adamantium> merakor check repology. gnugrep is normal for grep. patch is normal for gnupatch. patch is already in community
2020-01-21T09:20:38 #kisslinux <merakor> Oh, I haven't seen patch
2020-01-21T09:20:45 #kisslinux <adamantium> heh
2020-01-21T09:20:46 #kisslinux <merakor> We should remove it then
2020-01-21T09:21:39 #kisslinux <merakor> I thought you were making a joke because I named it "gnupatch" :D
2020-01-21T09:22:01 #kisslinux <adamantium> I am patch maintainer. :D  I had it first!! lol. If we want to rename it to gnupatch that's one thing, but no takey my package
2020-01-21T09:22:09 #kisslinux <adamantium> ;)
2020-01-21T09:22:38 #kisslinux <merakor> Hahaha :D
2020-01-21T09:22:49 #kisslinux <merakor> I am adding a new PR for removing it right now
2020-01-21T09:23:02 #kisslinux <adamantium> k
2020-01-21T09:23:35 #kisslinux <adamantium> i originally had "patch" named as "gnupatch" like yours, however i noticed later that it is "patch" on repology, and renamed it thusly
2020-01-21T09:24:11 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah, that makes sense
2020-01-21T09:26:46 #kisslinux <merakor> Pushed the changes
2020-01-21T09:34:24 #kisslinux <tdriou>
2020-01-21T09:34:28 #kisslinux <tdriou> help
2020-01-21T09:39:47 #kisslinux <tdriou> exit
2020-01-21T09:42:08 #kisslinux <tdriou> join ##branleur
2020-01-21T09:42:29 #kisslinux <tdriou> join #branleur
2020-01-21T09:42:32 #kisslinux <tdriou> join
2020-01-21T10:09:08 #kisslinux <claudia01> hey hey
2020-01-21T10:09:43 #kisslinux <Entropic> hi claudia01
2020-01-21T10:09:59 #kisslinux <claudia01> I encountered some issue with qt5-webengine. the same icu error as somebody mentioned some days earlier.
2020-01-21T10:10:37 #kisslinux <claudia01> i looked into it and my fix is to copy the stuff from /usr/share/qt5/ressources to ~/.falkon
2020-01-21T10:10:46 #kisslinux <icyphox> oh, you'll likely have wait for Dylan to come around
2020-01-21T10:11:04 #kisslinux <claudia01> yy. he might read that later (:
2020-01-21T10:11:17 #kisslinux <konimex> dylan's on right now though
2020-01-21T10:11:38 #kisslinux <icyphox> oh yes
2020-01-21T10:11:43 #kisslinux <icyphox> he'll see it :)
2020-01-21T10:12:09 #kisslinux <claudia01> when I  wanted to create ~/.falkon  -> permission denied. chown -r my fixed this
2020-01-21T10:12:39 #kisslinux <claudia01> but now its working (:
2020-01-21T10:14:16 #kisslinux <claudia01> Also this self created package makes qt5 or the webengine to fail at build with backtrace error. I dont remember right which one
2020-01-21T10:14:19 #kisslinux <claudia01> https://github.com/sdsddsd1/kiss-games/tree/master/libexecinfo
2020-01-21T10:25:08 #kisslinux <claudia01> qt5-webengine might be looking in the wrong path https://p.teknik.io/m3CsV
2020-01-21T11:14:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 1ello
2020-01-21T11:14:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ello*
2020-01-21T11:16:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> claudia01: What's the error with libexecinfo?
2020-01-21T11:21:06 #kisslinux <claudia01> dylanaraps: some moment. I will reproduce
2020-01-21T12:05:22 #kisslinux <claudia01> I removed falkon, the qt5* stuff + cmake-extra-modules and build again.
2020-01-21T12:05:27 #kisslinux <claudia01> https://p.teknik.io/8UnKn
2020-01-21T12:05:43 #kisslinux <claudia01> but my error was not python related before
2020-01-21T12:05:58 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps ping
2020-01-21T12:07:50 #kisslinux <adamantium> I think we may need to test grub on more systems
2020-01-21T12:08:14 #kisslinux <adamantium> I can't get past an endless grub loop (stage1), not hitting stage2 (the menu part, grub.cfg)
2020-01-21T12:08:31 #kisslinux <adamantium> i've tried everything in the book.
2020-01-21T12:08:59 #kisslinux <adamantium> Did anything change in our GRUB build recently?
2020-01-21T12:09:35 #kisslinux <adamantium> I've been trying to boot a kernel for hours, rediculous
2020-01-21T12:10:08 #kisslinux <adamantium> Hoping someone else could test a fresh install on a freshly formatted disk
2020-01-21T12:12:14 #kisslinux <claudia01> i also reinstalled recently. what helped me was to rebuild the base in the chroot like mentioned on the homepage
2020-01-21T12:12:29 #kisslinux <adamantium> did that
2020-01-21T12:13:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nothing has changed with our grub
2020-01-21T12:13:12 #kisslinux <adamantium> i've tried two hard drives
2020-01-21T12:13:19 #kisslinux <adamantium> i've tried using /dev/sdX
2020-01-21T12:13:25 #kisslinux <adamantium> I've tried PARTUUID
2020-01-21T12:13:27 #kisslinux <adamantium> UUID
2020-01-21T12:13:45 #kisslinux <adamantium> i've tried recompiling the whole world
2020-01-21T12:14:28 #kisslinux <adamantium> i've tried grub-install to /dev/disk/by-id/
2020-01-21T12:14:46 #kisslinux <adamantium> grub hits stage 1, "loading grub..." upper left corner, then system reboots
2020-01-21T12:14:57 #kisslinux <adamantium> the same exact describe from that person in that reddit post
2020-01-21T12:15:04 #kisslinux <adamantium> description*
2020-01-21T12:16:28 #kisslinux <adamantium> tried resetting  my bios to defaults
2020-01-21T12:16:30 #kisslinux <adamantium> lol
2020-01-21T12:17:05 #kisslinux <adamantium> im going to sleep
2020-01-21T12:17:06 #kisslinux <adamantium> o/
2020-01-21T12:46:48 #kisslinux <claudia01> I reproduced the error
2020-01-21T12:47:06 #kisslinux <claudia01> https://p.teknik.io/7FoIS
2020-01-21T12:48:15 #kisslinux <claudia01> removing libexec fixes this
2020-01-21T13:22:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> claudia01: Will see if I can patch this to fix it
2020-01-21T13:27:54 #kisslinux <neeasade> dylanaraps: what timezone are you in, for reference
2020-01-21T13:29:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Tue Jan 21 15:26:50 EET 2020
2020-01-21T13:29:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> GMT+2
2020-01-21T13:30:04 #kisslinux <neeasade> coolcool, thanks
2020-01-21T13:30:13 #kisslinux <neeasade> Tue Jan 21 08:30:06 EST 2020
2020-01-21T13:30:17 #kisslinux <neeasade> coffee time
2020-01-21T13:31:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Timezones man
2020-01-21T13:31:58 #kisslinux <neeasade> zones man
2020-01-21T13:50:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> claudia01: Should be fixed. Run 'kiss u' and rebuild 'qt5'.
2020-01-21T13:51:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (Still pushing, wait 5 mins)
2020-01-21T14:07:51 #kisslinux <claudia01> dylanaraps: the error remains
2020-01-21T14:09:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Ah
2020-01-21T14:09:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> How far into the build does it happen?
2020-01-21T14:10:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> AH
2020-01-21T14:10:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> My bad
2020-01-21T14:10:13 #kisslinux <claudia01> as far as my scrollback goes (:
2020-01-21T14:10:25 #kisslinux <claudia01> 10 pages or so
2020-01-21T14:10:29 #kisslinux <claudia01> ^^
2020-01-21T14:10:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I mean, how many minutes into the build?
2020-01-21T14:11:05 #kisslinux <claudia01> i have to do this again and measure
2020-01-21T14:11:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The issue is that QLOGGING_HAVE_BACKTRACE is set to true as you have execinfo installed.
2020-01-21T14:11:10 #kisslinux <claudia01> (went away)
2020-01-21T14:11:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> We just need to force it to false.
2020-01-21T14:12:14 #kisslinux <claudia01> ah ok so i understand your fix
2020-01-21T14:13:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://termbin.com/8njw
2020-01-21T14:14:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> All in this file.
2020-01-21T14:14:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Will try a simple sed
2020-01-21T14:14:26 #kisslinux <claudia01> its 3 minutes
2020-01-21T14:14:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thanks
2020-01-21T14:17:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Pushed
2020-01-21T14:17:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Try now
2020-01-21T14:18:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (kiss u, then kiss b qt5)
2020-01-21T14:18:14 #kisslinux <claudia01> y
2020-01-21T14:18:58 #kisslinux <claudia01> but how is the time important? when exporting a variable it should persist?
2020-01-21T14:21:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Was just wondering in case I need to do tests on my machine
2020-01-21T14:22:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It just built fine on mine
2020-01-21T14:23:37 #kisslinux <claudia01> y seems so also on mine
2020-01-21T14:23:47 #kisslinux <claudia01> still going
2020-01-21T14:25:13 #kisslinux <claudia01> -> qt5 Successfully built package
2020-01-21T14:25:23 #kisslinux <claudia01> nice, thank you
2020-01-21T14:31:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> :D
2020-01-21T14:57:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://github.com/kisslinux/repo/releases/tag/1.9.0
2020-01-21T14:57:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> New chroot tarball
2020-01-21T18:15:16 #kisslinux <merakor> Hey all, I want an opinion on an idea
2020-01-21T18:15:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Ok
2020-01-21T18:15:29 #kisslinux <merakor> I don't know whether it is stupid or not (probably is)
2020-01-21T18:15:57 #kisslinux <merakor> So I want to swap busybox to suckless tools
2020-01-21T18:16:45 #kisslinux <merakor> Would it be a good idea to like package both ubase, sbase, and also some good busybox tools into a single package
2020-01-21T18:17:02 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> Hello
2020-01-21T18:17:16 #kisslinux <merakor> Hi
2020-01-21T18:18:06 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> I've received a new laptop today, and decided I wanted to put Gentoo on it as a challenge, but caught sight of KISS. I think i'd like to install KISS. Can anyone here either persuade me for or against KISS? Thanks!
2020-01-21T18:18:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You should have a separate repository which also modifies busybox to remove conflicting tools.
2020-01-21T18:18:43 #kisslinux <merakor> KISS is the best distribution ever.
2020-01-21T18:18:50 #kisslinux <merakor> The packaging is extremely flexible
2020-01-21T18:18:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> So, the repository would contain: busybox (modified), sbase, ubase etc
2020-01-21T18:19:06 #kisslinux <merakor> And so much simpler than the way Gentoo handles packages
2020-01-21T18:19:06 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> Hi dylan, I admire a lot of your work
2020-01-21T18:19:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thanks
2020-01-21T18:19:42 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> I thought so, I assume that following the install guide provided works for UEFI mobo?
2020-01-21T18:19:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yup
2020-01-21T18:20:03 #kisslinux <merakor> dylanaraps: So, kind of like a busybox-core repository and suckless-core repository?
2020-01-21T18:20:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> One repository
2020-01-21T18:20:47 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> I have a Thinkpad X1 carbon 3rd gen and though I have used arch on my previous laptop and experimented with Gentoo, I wanted to try something fresh and minimal
2020-01-21T18:21:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> -> kiss l | wc -l
2020-01-21T18:21:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 112
2020-01-21T18:21:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You can make KISS as minimal as you like
2020-01-21T18:21:35 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> I'm not sure if this is a dumb question, but does the boot partition need to be made vfat for UEFI?And if so does this change any steps in the install guide?
2020-01-21T18:21:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This includes a browser etc
2020-01-21T18:22:11 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> As I saw the part about ext support
2020-01-21T18:22:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It does. Refer to Arch or Gentoo's guide as the instructions are the same.
2020-01-21T18:22:19 #kisslinux <merakor> By boot partition, if you mean EFI, then yes.
2020-01-21T18:22:41 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> Okay, so as long as I follow the arch guide for EFI partitioning i'll be fine>?
2020-01-21T18:22:54 #kisslinux <merakor> Yup
2020-01-21T18:23:39 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> Brilliant, thankyou. On my KISS system will I have to install vfat support? and if so does anyone by chance know its name?
2020-01-21T18:24:06 #kisslinux <merakor> You won't need it unless you need to repartition
2020-01-21T18:24:12 #kisslinux <merakor> But the package name is dosfstools
2020-01-21T18:25:24 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> Okay thanks so much, i'll try to install now :)
2020-01-21T18:25:47 #kisslinux <merakor> Sure, have a nice installation :)
2020-01-21T18:26:21 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> Thankyou, i'll keep this chat up as this is on my main PC. Back home from uni for a couple days as I just finished some january exams
2020-01-21T18:27:11 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> I'm studying comp sci so naturally I do dumb shit like installing arch / void every week or so to make the system more and more minimal until I found out about this
2020-01-21T18:28:11 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah, I journeyed through arch void, gentoo, and lfs as well
2020-01-21T18:28:51 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> Interesting, I was considering LFS but now I have a girlfriend and a lot of work to do I don't think i'd have the time for that :D
2020-01-21T18:29:02 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> And this looks a lot more fun
2020-01-21T18:29:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Writing packages is really quick and easy
2020-01-21T18:31:04 #kisslinux <merakor> LFS teaches you a lot, but it is a hell to try and manage if you don't do packaging.
2020-01-21T18:31:47 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> Yeah I have no real experience with that sort of stuff yet but thought this might be a nice place to start?
2020-01-21T18:32:49 #kisslinux <merakor> The package manager is quite simple, so it will be really easy to get going if you want to package software for yourself
2020-01-21T18:34:59 #kisslinux <merakor> dylanaraps: Speaking of packaging, I have packaged my implementation of pinentry-dmenu, should I add it to community?
2020-01-21T18:35:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's up to you
2020-01-21T18:35:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Is it a simple script?
2020-01-21T18:36:15 #kisslinux <merakor> Makefile has two options
2020-01-21T18:36:19 #kisslinux <merakor> install scripts only
2020-01-21T18:36:42 #kisslinux <merakor> Build dmenu with password patch just for the script and install them altogether
2020-01-21T18:36:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Ah
2020-01-21T18:36:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I see
2020-01-21T18:40:42 #kisslinux <merakor> Should I add the only-script build, or the complete build?
2020-01-21T18:41:12 #kisslinux <merakor> dmenu on the repository does not come with password patch
2020-01-21T18:41:54 #kisslinux <merakor> My version of pinentry-dmenu builds a slimmer dmenu with a different name
2020-01-21T18:43:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Well, suckless software tends to be maintained in a user's on repository so they can add patches and things.
2020-01-21T18:43:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> own*
2020-01-21T18:44:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'm also somewhat against simple scripts being packages (when they don't need to be)
2020-01-21T18:48:35 #kisslinux <merakor> I'll add the full build, then.
2020-01-21T18:49:02 #kisslinux <merakor> IIRC there are no other pinentry programs outside of the terminal ones.
2020-01-21T18:55:12 #kisslinux <merakor> added the PR
2020-01-21T19:40:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> New website is live: https://getkiss.org/
2020-01-21T19:40:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (Newer than the stallman.org version)
2020-01-21T19:43:07 #kisslinux <merakor> I liked the stallman.org version
2020-01-21T19:43:12 #kisslinux <merakor> Checking right now
2020-01-21T19:43:21 #kisslinux <merakor> Ohh
2020-01-21T19:43:25 #kisslinux <merakor> This is even better
2020-01-21T19:47:01 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> I think it looks better. Improved readability whilst I try to install :D
2020-01-21T19:47:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> heh
2020-01-21T19:47:46 #kisslinux <merakor> Looks nice on Lynx as well
2020-01-21T19:48:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yeah
2020-01-21T19:48:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's single column with no classes/ids
2020-01-21T19:48:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Will look good anywhere :P
2020-01-21T19:48:48 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah, I've checked the source
2020-01-21T19:48:58 #kisslinux <merakor> Sucks that I suck on anything frontend
2020-01-21T19:49:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Web stuff kills my brain
2020-01-21T19:49:55 #kisslinux <merakor> That's why I decided to go with the default werc css with minor changes
2020-01-21T19:50:59 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah, but every version of getkiss was nice-looking.
2020-01-21T19:51:28 #kisslinux <merakor> I just got less terrible by not doing my own css :D
2020-01-21T19:51:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I've been doing web crap for 6 years now
2020-01-21T19:52:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's horrible
2020-01-21T19:52:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> -> du -sh node_modules/
2020-01-21T19:52:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 85.3M   node_modules/
2020-01-21T19:52:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'm using C based tools for what I'm currently working on though
2020-01-21T19:52:56 #kisslinux <merakor> I do backend development, and I am glad I do that.
2020-01-21T19:53:48 #kisslinux <merakor> I just slap golang or C on its back and it just works as I intend it.
2020-01-21T19:53:56 #kisslinux <Shyiskhar> I can write hello world in multiple esolangs. Other than that I'm worthless.
2020-01-21T19:54:46 #kisslinux <merakor> I mean I don't have a broad language knowledge as well.
2020-01-21T19:56:30 #kisslinux <merakor> I don't know anything about JS for example
2020-01-21T19:57:17 #kisslinux <merakor> I have never even installed node.
2020-01-21T19:58:28 #kisslinux <merakor> I don't even know why people would write JS programs for desktop or command line
2020-01-21T20:00:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> js is a really easy language, it's pretty lenient when it comes to "working" code
2020-01-21T20:01:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> There's so many people using it that documentation is very widely available
2020-01-21T20:01:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> There's also a million frameworks which make it even easier
2020-01-21T20:02:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You can also interact with the visual side of things with little code
2020-01-21T20:02:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This makes it baby's first programming lang
2020-01-21T20:03:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (and maybe, their only programming lang)
2020-01-21T20:04:55 #kisslinux <KayW> hey dylan on https://getkiss.org/pages/projects, there's an extra ">" at the end of the eiwd link
2020-01-21T20:05:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thanks
2020-01-21T20:05:39 #kisslinux <merakor> I thought Python was more widespread as a first language
2020-01-21T20:05:52 #kisslinux <merakor> But, yeah I get the reasoning
2020-01-21T20:06:36 #kisslinux <merakor> I would just expect one to get away from JS (and Python) as they learn more about programming
2020-01-21T20:08:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> A lot of people don't program outside of work as see it solely as a job
2020-01-21T20:08:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nothing wrong with that of course
2020-01-21T20:08:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'm the opposite though
2020-01-21T20:08:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I don't like doing this stuff as work
2020-01-21T20:17:08 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> I've had a little read through the kiss-chroot script and I think it should be okay. Are there any things I should look out for? I'm not that good at shell scripting
2020-01-21T20:19:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's just a good idea to know what you're about to run and to verify that "yes, this looks in order".
2020-01-21T20:19:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Think of it as an extra step between 'curl | sh'.
2020-01-21T20:20:33 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> Ah okay thanks. Still got a lot to learn :)
2020-01-21T20:51:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> o/
2020-01-21T20:54:13 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> Hey dylan, in the install guide it says to open an issue for additional filesystem support - I have the fat32 boot partition for efi stuff, and I tried merakor's suggestion of trying to install "dosfstools" but that didn't exist
2020-01-21T20:57:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You create the partitions using the chosen live-cd so you'll only need dosfstools to interact with the filesystem from the running machine.
2020-01-21T20:58:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> dosfstools currently lives in the community repository (which you'll find out about later in the guide)
2020-01-21T20:58:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I've gone ahead and moved dosfstools to the official repositories (as it should be there).
2020-01-21T20:58:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> If you run 'kiss u', you'll then be able to build/install it.
2020-01-21T20:59:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ('kiss u' to update and then 'kiss b dosfstools; kiss i dosfstools)
2020-01-21T21:01:39 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> Ah perfect. Thanks for that :)
2020-01-21T21:01:46 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> Just doing a full rebuild
2020-01-21T21:06:03 #kisslinux <bluwume> is kiss b mandoc failing for other people?
2020-01-21T21:07:37 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> Will you add that information to the wiki too dylanaraps?
2020-01-21T21:09:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's now in the guide.
2020-01-21T21:10:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> bluwume: Let me see if I can reproduce.
2020-01-21T21:10:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> What's the error?
2020-01-21T21:10:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 'echo: No such file or directory' ?
2020-01-21T21:10:50 #kisslinux <bluwume> yeah
2020-01-21T21:11:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I can reproduce
2020-01-21T21:11:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Will fix it now
2020-01-21T21:12:13 #kisslinux <bluwume> what was the issue?
2020-01-21T21:12:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Are you by any chance using mdev?
2020-01-21T21:12:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Not sure yet.
2020-01-21T21:12:55 #kisslinux <bluwume> I am using eudev
2020-01-21T21:13:13 #kisslinux <bluwume> I think, whats a good way to check
2020-01-21T21:13:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The steps to move away from it require some work so you'd know :P
2020-01-21T21:14:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This is the line which fails
2020-01-21T21:14:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Ah
2020-01-21T21:14:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I figured it out.
2020-01-21T21:14:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 'make' updated yesterday and must have broken this.
2020-01-21T21:19:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> bluwume: Fixed
2020-01-21T21:20:08 #kisslinux <Shyiskhar> Hey! I figured out the falkon error I was getting. Apparently qt was looking in /share/qt/ for the files it needed to run falkon, but they weren't there. They were in /usr/share/qt. I just coped the folder over and now falkon works.
2020-01-21T21:20:45 #kisslinux <Shyiskhar> That's all the information I have though, I didn't do anything odd to install anything, so how it got out of place I have no clue.
2020-01-21T21:21:02 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Shyiskhar: I'll see if my qt also put the files there.
2020-01-21T21:21:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Output of 'kiss l qt5'?
2020-01-21T21:21:46 #kisslinux <Shyiskhar> qt5 5.14.0 1
2020-01-21T21:21:48 #kisslinux <bluwume> thanks for the help dylan
2020-01-21T21:21:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> np
2020-01-21T21:22:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Shyiskhar: Interestingly my qt has no /usr/share or /share files.
2020-01-21T21:23:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Send me the output of 'cat /var/db/kiss/installed/qt5/depends /var/db/kiss/installed/qt5/manifest'?
2020-01-21T21:25:59 #kisslinux <Shyiskhar> https://pastebin.com/DTipiWFn
2020-01-21T21:26:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thanks
2020-01-21T21:26:23 #kisslinux <Shyiskhar> Of course.
2020-01-21T21:26:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The files are from another qt5- package I believe
2020-01-21T21:28:00 #kisslinux <Shyiskhar> https://pastebin.com/9XQsmeLD - This is the original error, so I'd guess webengine?
2020-01-21T21:28:48 #kisslinux <bluwume> Also it looks like the nodejs release has been moved from its location
2020-01-21T21:29:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thanks
2020-01-21T21:29:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> bluwume: Care to elaborate?
2020-01-21T21:29:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'm update to push an update to nodejs btw
2020-01-21T21:29:40 #kisslinux <bluwume> like the source for the nodejs source is gone
2020-01-21T21:29:47 #kisslinux <bluwume> yeah that should fix it
2020-01-21T21:29:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Ah
2020-01-21T21:30:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Pushed :)
2020-01-21T21:30:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Shyiskhar: The errors are from qt5-webengine
2020-01-21T21:30:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Output of 'cat /var/db/kiss/installed/qt5/depends /var/db/kiss/installed/qt5/manifest' replacing qt5 for qt5-webengine
2020-01-21T21:31:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Mine for reference: https://termbin.com/v6v4
2020-01-21T21:33:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This is a tiny little script I use to quickly upload snippets of text.
2020-01-21T21:33:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> #!/bin/nc termbin.com:9999
2020-01-21T21:33:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I call it 'pb'
2020-01-21T21:33:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Example: pb < file
2020-01-21T21:34:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Example: cmd | pb
2020-01-21T21:34:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Really nice
2020-01-21T21:35:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (It could easily be a shell function/alias though I like the idea of fitting the whole thing in the shebang)
2020-01-21T21:35:43 #kisslinux <Shyiskhar> https://pastebin.com/25fQeys7 - I'm stealing that script by the by, 'cos my way is slow as all heck. Hah.
2020-01-21T21:36:20 #kisslinux <Shyiskhar> Mine looks similar at least, except you know. More glib in mine.
2020-01-21T21:36:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Your manifest looks fine
2020-01-21T21:37:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This could be a falkon issue.
2020-01-21T21:37:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (It looks in the wrong place)
2020-01-21T21:38:40 #kisslinux <Shyiskhar> Yeah, it worked just fine as soon as I moved the files. I can just symlink the directories I guess rather than have them in two places.
2020-01-21T21:39:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Are you able to undo your fix to see if we can solve it in a "proper" way?
2020-01-21T21:39:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I have a much nicer workaround
2020-01-21T21:39:40 #kisslinux <Shyiskhar> Of course, I can just delete the files.
2020-01-21T21:40:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You only copied them? Good then
2020-01-21T21:40:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You can try 'DIR_QT_LIBRARY_DATA=/usr/share/qt falkon'
2020-01-21T21:40:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Not sure if that path is correct though.
2020-01-21T21:40:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Might need to go deeper into the dir tree
2020-01-21T21:41:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Try also: 'DIR_QT_LIBRARY_DATA=/usr/share/qt/resources falkon'
2020-01-21T21:41:40 #kisslinux <Shyiskhar> Well, that one didn't work, trying the second one.
2020-01-21T21:41:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This is a much nicer workaround if it works (until we fix it properly)
2020-01-21T21:42:03 #kisslinux <Shyiskhar> Nope, it's still trying to seek in the same place.
2020-01-21T21:42:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> OK
2020-01-21T21:45:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This is another way to workaround the issue: https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qt-conf.html
2020-01-21T21:47:28 #kisslinux <Shyiskhar> That sounds hopeful!
2020-01-21T21:53:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> o/
2020-01-21T21:55:15 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Shyiskhar: It doesn't seem to be an issue in our package files.
2020-01-21T21:55:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's a common error actually.
2020-01-21T21:55:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Just need to figure out why
2020-01-21T22:01:20 #kisslinux <Shyiskhar> Dang. My kid got home, so I have to go. If I can help figure anything out, I'm more than happy to do so!
2020-01-21T22:02:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> All good
2020-01-21T22:02:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Shyiskhar: I'll get you to run 'strace' on falkon when you're next online.
2020-01-21T22:03:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The package is in community iirc.
2020-01-21T22:03:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Example: strace falkon >~/file 2>&1
2020-01-21T22:03:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (To capture what happens when it crashes)
2020-01-21T22:04:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> brb
2020-01-21T22:06:07 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> wb
2020-01-21T22:10:20 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> Ah fs. My laptop just turned off mid kiss u and won't turn on again :(  lmao my luck
2020-01-21T22:11:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Battery?
2020-01-21T22:12:55 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> On charge
2020-01-21T22:13:00 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> :(
2020-01-21T22:13:21 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> Maybe overheated whilst doing the kiss build
2020-01-21T22:14:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You should be able to follow the same instructions (minus disk setup) and be back where you left off.
2020-01-21T22:14:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (Just boot the live-cd, mount the disks, grab kiss-chroot and chroot in)
2020-01-21T22:16:35 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> Hmm still isn't powering on
2020-01-21T22:31:26 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> Powers on when i take the back case off lmao
2020-01-21T22:31:33 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> And turns off when I put it back on xD
2020-01-21T22:40:48 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> Working now
2020-01-21T22:41:05 #kisslinux <CoolNiceOneCheer> chrooted back in and got mandoc installed properly and dosfstools
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