2019-10-20T04:09:51 #kisslinux <Hidden1> ah, a song of the day
2019-10-20T04:09:55 #kisslinux <Hidden1> interesting
2019-10-20T05:22:18 #kisslinux <Crestwave> I've working on optimizing a pure sh program and it's been... interesting
2019-10-20T05:22:24 #kisslinux <Crestwave> case, case everywhere: https://github.com/Crestwave/bf/commit/d481d3a917ea230bb63283de7fe3b0a275cda82c
2019-10-20T05:26:42 #kisslinux <Crestwave> It's almost like another language in itself, e.g., `;;*)` = `else`.
2019-10-20T07:23:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Crestwave: Does it use recursion anywhere?
2019-10-20T07:31:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> New Python 2 release: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/python/cpython/c2f86d86e6c8f5fd1ef602128b537a48f3f5c063/Misc/NEWS.d/2.7.17rc1.rst
2019-10-20T07:31:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's said to be the last one.
2019-10-20T08:32:54 #kisslinux <Crestwave> dylanaraps: No, why?
2019-10-20T08:54:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The function at the top is just the while loop?
2019-10-20T09:01:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Try swapping the 'break' to a 'return' since you're leaving the function anyway.
2019-10-20T10:18:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> oof new major libressl version.
2019-10-20T10:39:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ooo
2019-10-20T10:39:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's a minor so bump.
2019-10-20T10:39:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> yay
2019-10-20T10:39:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> no rebuilds.
2019-10-20T10:40:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> There are now only 2 patches in core/!
2019-10-20T10:40:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (xorg has 1 and extra still has a bunch)
2019-10-20T11:22:03 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Oh yeah, that wasn't a function originally, and I forgot to convert it
2019-10-20T11:25:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Crestwave: Next step could be removing the two printf subshells.
2019-10-20T11:28:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Does this not work?:  printf "\$val"
2019-10-20T11:28:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Or is there a reason for the conversion?
2019-10-20T11:36:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Crestwave: How large are the numbers you're dealing with?
2019-10-20T11:48:49 #kisslinux <icyphox> Dylan, I'm working on a window manager in Nim, so thanks for sowm. Clean code, easy to build on ;)
2019-10-20T11:49:40 #kisslinux <icyphox> So much easier than having to read through dwm & herbstluft haha.
2019-10-20T11:50:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> No problem.
2019-10-20T11:50:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Feel free to ask any questions you may have.
2019-10-20T11:50:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> :)
2019-10-20T11:51:23 #kisslinux <icyphox> Will do. Took me a while to wrap my head around the basics of Xlib. I think I've a good understanding of the flow now.
2019-10-20T11:51:42 #kisslinux <icyphox> XCB on the other hand...
2019-10-20T11:51:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Crestave: A simple decimal to octal conversion could look like this: oct=$((($1/8)%8))$(($1%8))
2019-10-20T11:52:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This works for small input and you can easily expand it to support larger numbers.
2019-10-20T11:52:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> icyphox: XCB seems more complicated than Xlib to me.
2019-10-20T11:53:06 #kisslinux <icyphox> Ah so it isn't just me then.
2019-10-20T11:53:26 #kisslinux <icyphox> What's with everyone saying otherwise?
2019-10-20T11:53:54 #kisslinux <icyphox> I think I just can't intuitively understand async.
2019-10-20T11:54:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's the newer = better mentality.
2019-10-20T11:54:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> There's a reason Xlib is still seeing wide usage.
2019-10-20T11:54:44 #kisslinux <icyphox> Is it newer? I thought Xlib used XCB internally.
2019-10-20T11:54:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> iirc that's a new development.
2019-10-20T11:55:06 #kisslinux <icyphox> I see.
2019-10-20T11:55:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > The X protocol C-language Binding (XCB) is a replacement for Xlib featuring a small footprint, latency hiding, direct access to the protocol, improved threading support, and extensibility.
2019-10-20T11:56:34 #kisslinux <icyphox> Is there really a big perf difference between Xlib and XCB?
2019-10-20T11:57:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> For a window manager, I doubt it.
2019-10-20T11:57:57 #kisslinux <icyphox> Probably something you'd notice only in benchmarks.
2019-10-20T11:59:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> At some point I'll write an xcb version of sowm to compare.
2019-10-20T12:00:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > XCB has a 4kB receive buffer, but Xlib doesn't buffer input. So it's
2019-10-20T12:00:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> possible that under very heavy event load, XCB might do better. My
2019-10-20T12:00:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> guess is it won't make a measurable difference, but it would be
2019-10-20T12:00:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> interesting to find out.
2019-10-20T12:01:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > Does Qt5 take advantage of XCB's ability to send a pile of requests and
2019-10-20T12:01:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> then get back a pile of responses, without waiting for a round trip each
2019-10-20T12:01:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> time like Xlib does?  In particular, does it do so for the pile of
2019-10-20T12:01:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> requests needed at startup time?  If so, perhaps you could time
2019-10-20T12:01:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> application startup, both locally and over a high-latency connection.
2019-10-20T12:01:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Posts from the QT mailing list about their swap to xcb and performance.
2019-10-20T12:02:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xcb/2012-March/007721.html
2019-10-20T12:02:55 #kisslinux <icyphox> Eh. Your average Joe on r/unixporn really wouldn't care. Or even notice lol.
2019-10-20T12:03:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://lwn.net/Articles/273724/
2019-10-20T12:03:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Traditional Xlib:       average 19100000/sec
2019-10-20T12:03:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Lock-based Xlib/XCB:    average  3350000/sec
2019-10-20T12:03:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Handoff-based Xlib/XCB: average 17400000/sec
2019-10-20T12:03:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This shows plain Xlib as faster than xlib + xcb together(?)
2019-10-20T12:04:34 #kisslinux <konimex> I doubt r/unixporn would know what is xlib and xcb at all
2019-10-20T12:06:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's pointless when talking about xcb/xlib when window managers pull in glib.
2019-10-20T12:06:24 #kisslinux <icyphox> Which WM uses glib?
2019-10-20T12:06:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (or other "bloated" libraries)
2019-10-20T12:06:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> i3 iirc
2019-10-20T12:06:42 #kisslinux <icyphox> For real? Yeesh.  Time to switch.
2019-10-20T12:07:09 #kisslinux <konimex> never get the hype for i3 anyway
2019-10-20T12:07:31 #kisslinux <icyphox> My way of judging bloat -- if there are more features in the software than what I need/actively use, it's bloated.
2019-10-20T12:07:46 #kisslinux <icyphox> i3 fits that. But I can't be arsed to switch.
2019-10-20T12:07:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> PKG_CHECK_MODULES([LIBSN], [libstartup-notification-1.0])
2019-10-20T12:07:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> PKG_CHECK_MODULES([XCB], [xcb xcb-xkb xcb-xinerama xcb-randr xcb-shape])
2019-10-20T12:08:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> PKG_CHECK_MODULES([XCB_UTIL], [xcb-event xcb-util])
2019-10-20T12:08:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> PKG_CHECK_MODULES([XCB_UTIL_CURSOR], [xcb-cursor])
2019-10-20T12:08:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> PKG_CHECK_MODULES([XCB_UTIL_KEYSYMS], [xcb-keysyms])
2019-10-20T12:08:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> PKG_CHECK_MODULES([XCB_UTIL_WM], [xcb-icccm])
2019-10-20T12:08:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> PKG_CHECK_MODULES([XCB_UTIL_XRM], [xcb-xrm])
2019-10-20T12:08:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> PKG_CHECK_MODULES([XKBCOMMON], [xkbcommon xkbcommon-x11])
2019-10-20T12:08:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> PKG_CHECK_MODULES([YAJL], [yajl])
2019-10-20T12:08:15 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> PKG_CHECK_MODULES([LIBPCRE], [libpcre >= 8.10])
2019-10-20T12:08:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> PKG_CHECK_MODULES([PANGOCAIRO], [cairo >= 1.14.4 pangocairo])
2019-10-20T12:08:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> PKG_CHECK_MODULES([GLIBGOBJECT], [glib-2.0 gobject-2.0])
2019-10-20T12:08:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> i3 dependencies.
2019-10-20T12:08:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> glib, cairo/pango, libpcre, yajl, xkbcommon, a bunch of xcb- libs and libns.
2019-10-20T12:08:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> libsn*
2019-10-20T12:08:41 #kisslinux <icyphox> lol
2019-10-20T12:08:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> xcb-util-xrm is a joke too.
2019-10-20T12:08:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://github.com/Airblader/xcb-util-xrm
2019-10-20T12:09:17 #kisslinux <icyphox> I wonder what makes i3 so complex.
2019-10-20T12:09:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Not an official library but a third-party one provifing some utility functions.
2019-10-20T12:09:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> providing*
2019-10-20T12:09:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Every distro was suddenly forced to package it.
2019-10-20T12:10:11 #kisslinux <konimex> regardless of anything glib is pretty much mandatory if you want to use fonts isn' it
2019-10-20T12:10:22 #kisslinux <konimex> s/isn'/isn't
2019-10-20T12:10:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> no
2019-10-20T12:10:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> With freetype you should be ok.
2019-10-20T12:10:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This uses glib and then glib functions for pangocairo iirc.
2019-10-20T12:11:06 #kisslinux <konimex> even freetype+harfbuzz?
2019-10-20T12:11:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> glib is in there
2019-10-20T12:12:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> :(
2019-10-20T12:12:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> brb
2019-10-20T12:17:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> lol: http://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/73186735/kiss-is-a-fucking-joke
2019-10-20T12:31:58 #kisslinux <icyphox> Lmao
2019-10-20T12:32:01 #kisslinux <Crestwave> dylanaraps: Well, I wanted to keep the program relatively "simple" (which is why I wasn't using &255 at first) and did the commit mainly to remove `[`, which isn't a required builtin, but things got out of hand so I guess I'll just separate the program and go crazy with this.
2019-10-20T12:32:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Crazy sounds good ;)
2019-10-20T12:32:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'm happy to help add some insanity to it.
2019-10-20T12:33:33 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Anyway, so $val is only 0-256 (ASCII), so $((val/64))$(((val/8)%8))$((val%8)) works
2019-10-20T12:33:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> nice
2019-10-20T12:33:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> brb
2019-10-20T12:35:06 #kisslinux <Crestwave> But of course I'll use $((val/64))$(((val/7)&7))$((val&7)) for this
2019-10-20T12:36:02 #kisslinux <Crestwave> I'm not sure how I'd replace the other `printf` call, though
2019-10-20T13:16:03 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Using `return 0` in the `while` loop is actually slower than `break` and `return` breaks the program (strangely not in dash, though) since I have `|| exit` so I'm reverting back to `break`
2019-10-20T14:08:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Crestwave: interesting.
2019-10-20T17:13:54 #kisslinux <thehiddenone> Is there usually a white window that shows logs in SOWM?
2019-10-20T17:14:21 #kisslinux <thehiddenone> I am using version 0.3
2019-10-20T17:45:06 #kisslinux <HiddenOn1> test (sorry)
2019-10-20T17:55:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Monarch__: It has to be built in if the i915 driver is built in. The firmware has to match the driver in other words.
2019-10-20T17:56:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> thehiddenone: Weird. I don't know why that is happening... Try the latest master.
2019-10-20T17:56:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> HiddenOn1:
2019-10-20T23:53:24 #kisslinux <nestman> @dylanaraps : can you explain that one sed line in your website's make file?
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