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wanted: secure email service recommendation


I'm looking for a secure email service. A few requirements are non-negotiable, which seem to rule out most of the most-often recommended ones.


must work with any email client. I'm using mutt on my main pc and K-9 on my phone. Protonmail and Tutanota only work with their own mail clients.


must allow my own domain. I have several domains and I want to use @mydomain.xyz mailadresses. This makes moving to other mail services in the (hopefully far) future much less painful since the addresses stay the same.


data encryption at rest. I want my mails to be encrypted at rest, not just in transfer and not only when I use openPGP with a recipeient.


mustn't be limited to openPGP. encryption at-rest is automatically present when a mail is encrypted with PGP, but I need to be able to send unencrypted mails to people who don't use PGP and won't do so.


the above seem to rule out Protonmail, Tutanota, Posteo, Countermail and Kolab Now. Any other recommendation with first-hand experience or hints why the mentioned service-providers are _not_ out?


👤 AnoikisNomads

2023-11-12 · 6 months ago · 👍 Nono


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📡 byte · 2023-11-12 at 20:31:

try disroot probably


🕹️ skyjake [...] · 2023-11-12 at 21:01:

> Protonmail and Tutanota only work with their own mail clients.

Slight correction here: Proton does provide the Proton Bridge application that you can run as a local IMAP/SMTP server so any email client can access the Proton servers securely.


(Trivia: bbs.geminispace.org uses Proton Bridge to send notification emails via `sendmail`.)


👤 AnoikisNomads [OP] · 2023-11-13 at 05:40:

@skyjake I guess you're right. I have that in my notes. Sadly Protonmail doesn't seem to have a precompiled bridge for my system and I believe on Android I'd still have to use their app. Thanks though, this reminds me that Protonmail isn't technically out, just down in the list for hassle ;)


👤 AnoikisNomads [OP] · 2023-11-13 at 05:52:

@byte: disroot is out for many reasons. encryption at rest is limited to using openPGP, as well as commercial activities wherever they draw the line for that. Still, they look like a great grassroots project and I hope they make it long term


😺 gemalaya · 2023-11-13 at 15:58:

email sucks, period, why hang on to a 30 year old insecure protocol ... Bitmessage was promising and yet it's barely used ...

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